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Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:01 pm

Garuda Indonesia A330 veered off the runway while preparing to depart from UBG (Sultan Hasanuddin Airport) operating GA613 to Jakarta. No injuries reported.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/237581

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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:22 pm

Well, that's not good! Glad everyone's okay though.
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:39 pm

Is it damaged or is it just the light ?

You wouldn't expect damage from a low speed excursion but they seem to be far enough in the grass.

Also what's with the placeholder looking text "BRAND LOGO" ?
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:42 pm

Aesma wrote:
Is it damaged or is it just the light ?

You wouldn't expect damage from a low speed excursion but they seem to be far enough in the grass.

Also what's with the placeholder looking text "BRAND LOGO" ?

That’s GA’s retro jet. It’s not placeholder text but their awkward phrasing of when that was their brand/livery.
 
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:56 pm

Aesma wrote:
Is it damaged or is it just the light ?

You wouldn't expect damage from a low speed excursion but they seem to be far enough in the grass.

Also what's with the placeholder looking text "BRAND LOGO" ?


It is difficult to see but that nose gear looks far away from any paved surface in that picture...how on earth can you go off road in soft muddy terrain for so long if your are taxiing at low speed??
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:59 pm

Aesma wrote:
Also what's with the placeholder looking text "BRAND LOGO" ?


BRAND LOGO 1969 - 1985

 
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:59 pm

Oh no, it is the retro jet! Hope it can be washed and brought back. Doesn't seem to be too much damage.
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:05 pm

Funny how even in these times, when air traffic is so limited, Indonesia always pops up with issues.
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:26 pm

I remember that livery. I saw it on the Fokker 28s that used to fly into the town where I lived. It looks a little different on the A330 than it did on the Fokker 28, but it's nice to see the red cheatlines again. I remember as a kid being excited when they switched to the blue paint job. I thought that somehow the planes with the new paint would be different or better on the inside. So when the family was going on a trip, I was anxiously awaiting my first ride on a plane with the new livery.

I was crushingly disappointed when Garuda sent a plane with the old red livery. They hadn't finished repainting the fleet. Now, though, I prefer the red cheatlines to any of Garuda's other liveries. Such a classic look.
 
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:33 pm

No one is making a pilgrimage to Indonesia to learn about the finer details of aviation safety,

It's been a complete mess for decades.
 
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:48 pm

For sure that’s a write off!

Time for the toe jacks and ply!

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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:05 pm

There is a better image here: https://www.news18.com/news/auto/garuda ... 96703.html

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Best I can figure out, they were backtaxiing on Rwy3 and overshot the U-turn as those are REILs underneath the #2 engine.
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:16 pm

Calling Joe Patroni............
 
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:15 pm

ushermittwoch wrote:
Funny how even in these times, when air traffic is so limited, Indonesia always pops up with issues.

Was my self same thought with a hint of rolled eyes...
 
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:22 am

Apparently flight had mere 14 passengers plus crew of 12.

https://www.flightglobal.com/garuda-a33 ... 12.article
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:31 am

I got my own ADSB system recording data at the airport.
The runway in use was 03, but this aircraft was offered to go to 21 and the crew took it.
The guess is that the parallel taxiway near the beginning of 03 was closed due to work in progress (NOTAMed).
But they were cleared to go into the runway and backtrack 21, after a traffic landed 03.
That traffic then occupied the parallel taxiway...
Backtrack was at usual speed. The aircraft slowed down to about 9kts before the turn... the turn was 6-9kts.
45m runway, aircraft need 48m. The taxiway joining the runway on 21 was beyond the threshold line, and it was already night. Possible crew didn't brief on the condition of 21 turning positions when they changed from 03 to 21... the crew likely got confused and decided to turn before identifying the taxiway.
The irony is that, they could have turned off at the taxiway, then turned right, joined 13/31, and then turned back to 21 via a connecting taxiway...

Oh well... more homework for the human factors team at Garuda... :D The crew probably haven't flown in a while... and health protocols for travelling keeps changing, suppressing demand, hence the low passenger numbers...
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:22 am

Thanks again mandala499 for your local, detailed information!
 
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Re: Garuda A330 runs off runway

Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:19 am

mandala499 wrote:
45m runway, aircraft need 48m. The taxiway joining the runway on 21 was beyond the threshold line, and it was already night. Possible crew didn't brief on the condition of 21 turning positions when they changed from 03 to 21... the crew likely got confused and decided to turn before identifying the taxiway.
The irony is that, they could have turned off at the taxiway, then turned right, joined 13/31, and then turned back to 21 via a connecting taxiway...


46 meters for the A330-300, they should have had room at either the intersection of SP and 03 and the intersection of 13/31 and 03. A normal 180 degree turn starts by turning 20 degrees off the runway heading so the pilot is over the runway edge and then full nose tiller.

You are correct it would have been better to taxi on SP, WP, backtrack 31, and then line up 03.

Do you know where the aircraft came to rest ? Looking at the photo above in reply 12 it looks like a taxi way is behind the aircraft which I guess is WP, so I am assuming its heading around 200 degrees.
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