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Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:23 pm

Article link: https://www-moroccoworldnews-com.cdn.am ... lanes/amp/

Summary:

i. RAM to sell off 20 aircraft including 4 E90s, 4 B788s, and 12 B737NGs.

ii. Post CV-19 fleet to consist of 4 B789s + 25 B738s + 6 AT7s + 2 B7M8s + 1 B788 only

iii. 30% of total workforce to be cut

Comments:

a) As a result of 4 B788s getting cut, one would expect PEK, BOS, MIA and DOH to be suspended among the WB operated routes

b) North America network would therefore be YUL JFK and IAD only

c) Less B787 operated frequencies on ORY/CDG

d) It will be interesting to see where all in EU and AF they reduce their frequencies + which routes get suspended. They have updated the GDS system till 31Aug only for the time being.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:43 pm

So that 1 787-8 is likely CN-RGB, which was just painted into the new livery + Oneworld logo.

Also, RAM was flying to PKX, not PEK.
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:47 pm

behramjee wrote:
Article link: https://www-moroccoworldnews-com.cdn.am ... lanes/amp/

Summary:

i. RAM to sell off 20 aircraft including 4 E90s, 4 B788s, and 12 B737NGs.

ii. Post CV-19 fleet to consist of 4 B789s + 25 B738s + 6 AT7s + 2 B7M8s + 1 B788 only.


So that means... the entire Embraer 190 fleet is going. All of the Boeing 787-8's are leaving apart from one. With the Boeing 737s, that means all six of the Boeing 737-700 will go, along with six of the Boeing 737-800s.

The fleet will then be four Boeing 787-9, one Boeing 787-8, six ATR72-600, two Boeing 737MAX 8 and the 25 Boeing 737-800s.

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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:56 pm

I see DOH remaining...although not PEK as that's not within a 1-day rotation. As for CDG/ORY, that could go to a passenger B738 while the B763 freighter handles the heavier cargo. In the winter season, JFK could go sub-daily while IAD is suspended in winter season.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:06 pm

behramjee wrote:
Article link: https://www-moroccoworldnews-com.cdn.am ... lanes/amp/

Summary:

i. RAM to sell off 20 aircraft including 4 E90s, 4 B788s, and 12 B737NGs.

ii. Post CV-19 fleet to consist of 4 B789s + 25 B738s + 6 AT7s + 2 B7M8s + 1 B788 only

iii. 30% of total workforce to be cut

Comments:

a) As a result of 4 B788s getting cut, one would expect PEK, BOS, MIA and DOH to be suspended among the WB operated routes

b) North America network would therefore be YUL JFK and IAD only

c) Less B787 operated frequencies on ORY/CDG

d) It will be interesting to see where all in EU and AF they reduce their frequencies + which routes get suspended. They have updated the GDS system till 31Aug only for the time being.


BOS and MIA were both just re-added from April 2021 per the OAG thread.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:10 pm

What happens to the domestic routes ? Will some domestic airports lose service completely, or just reduced frequency ?
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:02 pm

I never thought BOS did well enough to come back. It was nearly always a 788 and loads were horrendous. With these cuts, BOS would probably go up to a 789, which seems way too optimistic.
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:28 pm

ChrisNH38 wrote:
I never thought BOS did well enough to come back. It was nearly always a 788 and loads were horrendous. With these cuts, BOS would probably go up to a 789, which seems way too optimistic.


One can know they are going to need to give up some long-haul routes and/or frequencies (or have some magic in utilization!) but we don't know what. I will wait for them to announce the route plan, to fly it a while, and see if they change it.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:44 pm

In today's market who has the appetite to make the purchase? except the B737NG that some US airlines might take an interest, but who would buy the E90 and B788?
 
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Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:46 pm

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I never thought BOS did well enough to come back. It was nearly always a 788 and loads were horrendous. With these cuts, BOS would probably go up to a 789, which seems way too optimistic.


I have been looking at flights to ROB for a wedding next year and one thing I've noted is that AT is not aggressive enough with their pricing. They are basically the same price as SN and AF but have a far inferior product and schedule. They need to evaluate their pricing model for connecting flights if they really want to be successful in NA.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:00 pm

Took a look at the linked article, it only says 4 787's are leaving, didn't specify the -8 or -9. In that case, I think it would be the 4 787-9s leaving, as that's the entire -9 fleet, with a homogenous fleet of 5 787-8s remaining.
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:46 pm

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i. RAM to sell off 20 aircraft including 4 E90s, 4 B788s, and 12 B737NGs.


I thought the E190s were leased, initially from Aldus Aviation until that company was purchased by Nordic Aviation Capital ?
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:57 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
ChrisNH38 wrote:
I never thought BOS did well enough to come back. It was nearly always a 788 and loads were horrendous. With these cuts, BOS would probably go up to a 789, which seems way too optimistic.


One can know they are going to need to give up some long-haul routes and/or frequencies (or have some magic in utilization!) but we don't know what. I will wait for them to announce the route plan, to fly it a while, and see if they change it.


Due to OneWorld, it may be wiser for AT to consider knocking down a JFK frequency, keep MIA, and swap IAD for PHL. YUL has to stay for high O+D.
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 pm

The silver lining will be that CMN is a little quieter. The airport and it's authorities had no control or capability with the volumes passing through (immigration and transfers being particularly awful). Hopefully this'll give the authority a little breathing time to better handle RAM's gradual expansion.

The airline itself has a good niche in the area and should continue to grow and re-enter these markets when aviation picks up.
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:48 pm

Royal Air Maroc is also set to proceed to sell 20 planes including 4 Embraers, 4 Dreamliner 787s, and a dozen B737 aircraft.

Good luck finding buyers in this market!
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:51 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
ChrisNH38 wrote:
I never thought BOS did well enough to come back. It was nearly always a 788 and loads were horrendous. With these cuts, BOS would probably go up to a 789, which seems way too optimistic.


One can know they are going to need to give up some long-haul routes and/or frequencies (or have some magic in utilization!) but we don't know what. I will wait for them to announce the route plan, to fly it a while, and see if they change it.


Due to OneWorld, it may be wiser for AT to consider knocking down a JFK frequency, keep MIA, and swap IAD for PHL. YUL has to stay for high O+D.

IAD is a major market for US-Africa traffic. That can easily hold its own, OW or not. They’d be insane to swap it for PHL.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:36 pm

I think a more realistic title would be "RAM would like to sell..." because who's buying aircraft right now?
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:49 pm

Brickell305 wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:

One can know they are going to need to give up some long-haul routes and/or frequencies (or have some magic in utilization!) but we don't know what. I will wait for them to announce the route plan, to fly it a while, and see if they change it.


Due to OneWorld, it may be wiser for AT to consider knocking down a JFK frequency, keep MIA, and swap IAD for PHL. YUL has to stay for high O+D.

IAD is a major market for US-Africa traffic. That can easily hold its own, OW or not. They’d be insane to swap it for PHL.


I agree. Much of the government/NGO traffic heading to Africa originates at IAD on top of being one of the top two VFR markets for West Africans.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:44 pm

I have to wonder if DOH could be handed off to QR with a codeshare. Also, out of curiosity, what is the annual travel between CMN and JNB or CPT annually (for 2019)? That seemed like a large gap in the AT network.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:47 am

I found something on a Dutch news site about what they are cutting. It looks like they are cutting flights to Boston, Miami, and South America. https://www.bladna.nl/royal-air-maroc-s ... 30792.html
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:35 am

winstonavgeek wrote:
I found something on a Dutch news site about what they are cutting. It looks like they are cutting flights to Boston, Miami, and South America. https://www.bladna.nl/royal-air-maroc-s ... 30792.html


Thanks for posting this link. I translated it which is pasted below of the main part:

“On Thursday, during a meeting of the Royal Air Maroc management, it was decided to no longer fly to Athens, Vienna, Boston, Miami, Sao Paolo, Rio de Janeiro, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Beirut, Amman, N’Djamena and Luanda. All these air routes are not profitable enough according to Royal Air Maroc”.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:46 am

Behramjee - thanks for pulling out the list of terminated destinations
None of these routes seem particularly compelling destinations from Casablanca to me. I'm wondering if RAM are just cutting the most severely loss making routes, with other routes having made a more modest loss in 2019
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:05 am

peterinlisbon wrote:
I think a more realistic title would be "RAM would like to sell..." because who's buying aircraft right now?

Eventually the market will clear. Aircraft naturally lose value as they age as well as with hours/cycles, so there is a cost delaying selling. That said, the market is so bad that it is worthwhile to hold on until traffic somewhat recovers.

In the aircraft lease and values thread, there are posts showing how aircraft values have dropped for different age aircraft. For a 15 year old narrowbody, about 20% due to Covid19. For a 5 year old narrowbody, more around a 10% drop. For less desirable types such as the A319 or E190, the drop in values are worse (I speculate due to less demand for used parts or scrapping).

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1440991&start=50

This is a poor time to sell or attempt to place a lease return. But better to put the aircraft for sale than continue all the other expenses.

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Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:29 am

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I have to wonder if DOH could be handed off to QR with a codeshare. Also, out of curiosity, what is the annual travel between CMN and JNB or CPT annually (for 2019)? That seemed like a large gap in the AT network.


As per your request, the 2019 full year p2p demand between CMN and JNB/CPT was as follows (round trip pax below):

JNB 9,000
CPT 3,000

With regards to the "Dutch article mentioned to be suspended routes", it was as follows:

*Round trip p2p pax below*

AMM 18,000
BEY 16,000
ATH 12,000
ARN 11,000
CPH 11,000
NDJ 7,000
LAD 12,000
VIE 9,000
BOS 21,000
MIA 20,000
GIG 8,000
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:04 am

Since AA isn’t moving forward with CMN, this could be a ripe opportunity to shift what AT had from BOS down to PHL for all the OW connections if they decide to re-enter the northeast market in the future. Could mirror the path QR had taken.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:20 am

Unconfirmed and not sure on the validity of this, but this source says these destinations will be cut:

Athens, Vienna, Boston, Miami, São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Beirut, Amman, N’Djamena, and Luanda.

https://theexplorerblog.com/royal-air-m ... merica.php

If true, Miami is rather surprising given the connections with AA.
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:13 am

I guess some of the destinations they launched were purely for transfer traffic, markets where I fear supply has went far ahead of demand. Africa is developing economically but it seems like many airlines rushed to serve this growing market. On top of traditional airlines such as AF, BA, TK, MS and SN in recent years we have seen Ethiopian expand aggressively and Air Senegal is also trying to build a hub of their own. It seems like too many airline, not enough passengers for all of them.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:24 am

Behramjee - do you have details of other routes from CMN flown by AT which have less than 25,000 pax ? I'm guessing there might be other routes which are not profitable...
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:06 am

Surprised about Luanda they flew a B767 pretty much every day. Switching from a 767 to nothing is extreme couldn’t they fly a B737 instead first. I am surprised they also not trying some triangular flight in Africa first before cancelling them altogether.
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:27 am

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What happens to the domestic routes ? Will some domestic airports lose service completely, or just reduced frequency ?

There are a few things I'm wondering about the domestic market:
- How big is it?
- What part is purely domestic and what part is feeding the international network?
- How is it evolving? On one side, Morocco is developing with more people having enough money to travel, but on the other side, domestic land transport (whether by rail or by road) is improving, diminishing the need for domestic air transport.

If someone has any indication, I would welcome it.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:00 pm

To me, the Boeing 737-800 fleet has the best chance for a buyer...with GECAS likely to be a buyer as it's a major sponsor of the Boeing 737-800 freighter program.
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:10 pm

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i. RAM to sell off 20 aircraft including 4 E90s


Rumors state that Bamboo Airways is acquiring some E190-E1.

Now I understand where are those airframes coming from :roll:
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:14 pm

Antaras wrote:
behramjee wrote:

i. RAM to sell off 20 aircraft including 4 E90s


Rumors state that Bamboo Airways is acquiring some E190-E1.

Now I understand where are those airframes coming from :roll:


Actually? If RAM is also getting rid of its four 787-9s, that’s another potential source to increase their widebody fleet.
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:22 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Antaras wrote:
behramjee wrote:

i. RAM to sell off 20 aircraft including 4 E90s


Rumors state that Bamboo Airways is acquiring some E190-E1.

Now I understand where are those airframes coming from :roll:


Actually? If RAM is also getting rid of its four 787-9s, that’s another potential source to increase their widebody fleet.

Don't think that RAM would yeet its 789 (or in other words, RAM would almost stop its widebodies/long-haul service).

Besides that, QH is obviously running out of cash (as it doesn't even have money to recieve former-Hainan's 789 reg B-1140\VN-A828 via GECAS). Don't think that QH would take anymore 789 (further than the mentioned Hainan-GECAS airframe).

Four E190 for it VCS (Côn Đảo) service would be enough.
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:42 pm

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To me, the Boeing 737-800 fleet has the best chance for a buyer...with GECAS likely to be a buyer as it's a major sponsor of the Boeing 737-800 freighter program.

The freighter programs became key. It doesn't have to be GECAS as there are multiple 737NG conversions:
1. Boeing, up to six MROs approved to covert, all with < 4 month conversion times.
2. Bedek (IAI) is a large conversion house that outsources. From memory, AeroMexico has done 767 conversions for them, so why not 737NG?
3. AEI
4. PEMCO (only 73G, but I bet a 738 will follow)

With 752 conversions fadding, I would expect Precision to add the 738 as well as the A320 to the recent A321 conversion.

I like this 4 part series on the state of the freighter conversions, although with MROs looking for more work, I expect more conversions to be certified:
https://cargofacts.com/allposts/equipme ... y-arrived/

The 787s will find passenger duty. It is good news the E1-190 found a new home. Only 83% are active (vs. 94% for the BG/MAX):
https://www.airfleets.net/exploit/exploitation.htm

These lease returns and sales will be brutal as normally, going from memory here, about half of expired leases are extended. I expect for the next 24 months, most aircraft will be returned.

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Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:15 pm

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Miami is rather surprising given the connections with AA.


Connections aren't everything. You need a solid local market for most long haul flights to have staying power. Additionally, MIA isn't in a convenient location for connections to Morocco from most of the U.S. It's OK for connections from the Gulf Coast region, but not much else (besides Mexico, Central America, and the northern Caribbean, which I expect are tiny local markets to Morocco).
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:21 pm

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Miami is rather surprising given the connections with AA.


Connections aren't everything. You need a solid local market for most long haul flights to have staying power. Additionally, MIA isn't in a convenient location for connections to Morocco from most of the U.S. It's OK for connections from the Gulf Coast region, but not much else (besides Mexico, Central America, and the northern Caribbean, which I expect are tiny local markets to Morocco).


Anyone got the PDEW? Does Florida not have the most Moroccan Americans in the United States?
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:37 pm

Ishrion wrote:
FSDan wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Miami is rather surprising given the connections with AA.


Connections aren't everything. You need a solid local market for most long haul flights to have staying power. Additionally, MIA isn't in a convenient location for connections to Morocco from most of the U.S. It's OK for connections from the Gulf Coast region, but not much else (besides Mexico, Central America, and the northern Caribbean, which I expect are tiny local markets to Morocco).


Anyone got the PDEW? Does Florida not have the most Moroccan Americans in the United States?


From Wikipedia:

By state, most Moroccan immigrants reside in New York, Florida, and Massachusetts. Each of these states have between 5,000 and 10,000 Moroccan immigrant residents. The New York City metro area has the largest population of Moroccan immigrants, with approximately 11,000. Other metro areas with large Moroccan immigrant populations are Boston, Washington DC, Los Angeles, Miami, Orlando, Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, and Tampa.


Seems like Florida is definitely up there in the U.S., but those are pretty small immigrant communities in the grand scheme of things. Obviously not big enough or lucrative enough to sustain this flight.
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:59 pm

The purpose of GIG/GRU was to transfer pax to BEY/AMM.
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:44 pm

FSDan wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
FSDan wrote:

Connections aren't everything. You need a solid local market for most long haul flights to have staying power. Additionally, MIA isn't in a convenient location for connections to Morocco from most of the U.S. It's OK for connections from the Gulf Coast region, but not much else (besides Mexico, Central America, and the northern Caribbean, which I expect are tiny local markets to Morocco).


Anyone got the PDEW? Does Florida not have the most Moroccan Americans in the United States?


From Wikipedia:

By state, most Moroccan immigrants reside in New York, Florida, and Massachusetts. Each of these states have between 5,000 and 10,000 Moroccan immigrant residents. The New York City metro area has the largest population of Moroccan immigrants, with approximately 11,000. Other metro areas with large Moroccan immigrant populations are Boston, Washington DC, Los Angeles, Miami, Orlando, Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, and Tampa.


Seems like Florida is definitely up there in the U.S., but those are pretty small immigrant communities in the grand scheme of things. Obviously not big enough or lucrative enough to sustain this flight.


I mean, we are in the middle of a pandemic and a catastrophic drop in international travel. What worked a few months ago doesn't necessarily work anymore. Airlines are essentially going to be doing a huge reset of their intentional network, which sucks because a lot of the investment they made to grow over the past 10-15 years is wiped out. Stuff like RAM to Miami, Boston and Sao Paulo will make sense again maybe in 2024-2026.
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:47 pm

Sad that the vision for CMN as an African hub similar to ADD is going to be pushed farther into the future.
 
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Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:37 am

Am just going through the GDS changes today of RAM as I got an update alert and it looks like this:

AMM, BOS, MIA, CPH, GIG + GRU + ARN are indeed gone but BEY remains 2 weekly whilst FRA is 3 weekly (reduced from daily)

LGW + DOH + PKX + LBV + SSG + MUC + IST each suspended too

BKO, BCN and ABJ reduced from 2 daily to single daily each respectively

CKY reduced from daily to 5 weekly

DSS reduced from 10 weekly B787s to daily B738s

ORY reduced from 6 to 4 daily and all with B738s only

OUA reduced from 4 to 3 weekly

BJL reduced from daily to 5 weekly
 
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Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:37 pm

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The purpose of GIG/GRU was to transfer pax to BEY/AMM.


I would have expected instead the purpose of flying to Brazil was to exploit CMNs location to feed EU rather than AMM/BEY which have much lesser demand for GRU/GIG versus EU.
 
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Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:17 pm

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eta unknown wrote:
The purpose of GIG/GRU was to transfer pax to BEY/AMM.


I would have expected instead the purpose of flying to Brazil was to exploit CMNs location to feed EU rather than AMM/BEY which have much lesser demand for GRU/GIG versus EU.

Yes you are also correct- Europe too. They have tried Brazil a few times...
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:30 pm

If Condor had a better financial shape, I guess these ex-RAM 787s would be interesting to them, to replace the ageing fleet of 767s...
But I know, this is pretty much far-fetched in these difficult times, even more if we consider the recent ownership change at Condor.
I wonder when people will understand:
Embraer 190 or simply E190, not ERJ-190. E-Jets are NOT ERJs!
Boeing 747-8, not Boeing 747-800. Same goes for 787.
Airbus A320, not Airbus 320.
Airbii does not exist.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:55 pm

behramjee wrote:
LGW + DOH + PKX + LBV + SSG + MUC + IST each suspended too


Do they still fly to LHR, or is this a complete withdrawal from London?
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:00 pm

List of the routes that will be closed
Cairo, Libreville, Luanda, Malabo, N’Djamena
London, Manchester, Munich, Berlin, Porto, Zurich, Vienna, Stockholm, Athens and Copenhagen
Amman, Beirut, Istanbul, Antalya, Doha, Riadh and Jeddah
Boston, Miami, Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro
Beijing

https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-07-07-r ... 21308.html
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:01 pm

Yes Brazil has a large Lebanese population but the BEY market segment is served adequately via one stop options by TK EK QR AF.

BEY-GRU-BEY was 26,000 pax only versus 4,000 for GIG
AMM-GRU-AMM was 5,000 pax only versus 1,000 for GIG

Hence if BEY was a focus for AT, it was unfortunately misplaced.
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:54 pm

Some routes that are shown to be removed are back online in April 2021.
Aviation is proof that given, the will, we have the capacity to achieve the impossible. - Eddie Rickenbacker
 
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Re: Royal Air Maroc to sell 20 aircraft

Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:35 pm

Miami wrote:
Some routes that are shown to be removed are back online in April 2021.


They have not updated their Summer 2021 schedule listing as yet and wont until IATA S21 slots conference is complete in November this year which is taking place at BCN.

I still see RUH and JED though online for Aug/Sep on GDS system as of this morning.

For LON, they are maintaining LHR but removing LGW from what I saw too.

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