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Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:51 pm

Luxurious Qatari VVIP 747-8i BBJ, with fewer than 1,100 total flight hours and under 300 cycles has hit the open market.

The aircraft is configured to carry 89 passengers and crew of 18.

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News article:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... ing-palace

Sales brochure
https://www.amacaerospace.com/wp-conten ... h_Spec.pdf

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Dont feel bad. The Qatari royals still have 2 other 747-8i BBJ in their fleet in addition to their other aircraft
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Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:56 pm

Saw that, amazing aircraft and beautiful interior. Doubt that putting a 748 on the market during these times is the most appealing but you never know....

Used to be a regular at LAX, hopefully the new owner will bring her here again.

Side note: The two other 748s (since I KNOW someone will ask lol) are A7-HHE (full Qatar livery), and A7-HHF (white, outfitting at BSL). These will be kept for a while.
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Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:01 am

It must have lost its new plane smell so they didn't want it anymore.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:16 am

johns624 wrote:
It must have lost its new plane smell so they didn't want it anymore.

You can get that back by spritzing a little formaldehyde into the cabin.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:32 am

:crowded: How many members does A.nut have...and how much would each have to shell out to crowd fund the thing? I have a $50 bill lying here somewhere. :lol:
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:32 am

Devilfish wrote:
:crowded: How many members does A.nut have...and how much would each have to shell out to crowd fund the thing? I have a $50 bill lying here somewhere. :lol:


Genuinely was intrigued and had nothing better to do so: According to this there are 22,000+ photographers on airliners (I know it’s not posters but it’s something). Let’s say that the price is $500M for the jet and 20,000 people chip in. We’d ‘only’ pay $25,000 each!! Let’s start the group fund me account now!!! :lol:

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Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:40 am

Interesting that that plane is up for sale, but QAF is holding on to a much older fleet, including its A340s and narrow-bodies.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:48 am

been losing too much money with QR, need to get some cash
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:09 am

CALMSP wrote:
been losing too much money with QR, need to get some cash


really makes you think how the sands’ vip aircraft are. are the two SP not losing cash now, especially with crippled tourism in the casinos they own?
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:13 am

Opulent and extravagant, fit for a sheik. I'll wait for a second stimulus check to put a down payment for it.
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:43 am

johns624 wrote:
It must have lost its new plane smell so they didn't want it anymore.


Or maybe the Qataris are in deep sh*t because of the current situation
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:54 am

I'll wait with my offer until the price drops under a thousand, and crude oil price becomes negative again :-)

Seriously though, while wonderful, and great layout, I do wonder why private aircraft often have such old style decor. If I had a private yet, it would have a modern and/or cozy style. And a jacuzzi, sauna and small indoor ski slope :-)
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:15 am

AirlineCritic wrote:
[...] I do wonder why private aircraft often have such old style decor. If I had a private yet, it would have a modern and/or cozy style. And a jacuzzi, sauna and small indoor ski slope :-)


It seems most of people buying the most expensive yacht / aircraft / villas lack of personal taste and accept whatever idiocy some reliable expert will reccomend them instead of developing their own style.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:15 am

LAXintl wrote:
Luxurious Qatari VVIP 747-8i BBJ, with fewer than 1,100 total flight hours and under 300 cycles has hit the open market.

The aircraft is configured to carry 89 passengers and crew of 18.

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https://the-drive-2.imgix.net/https%3A% ... 5e3613e224

Image
https://the-drive-3.imgix.net/https%3A% ... a05b6e88d1


News article:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... ing-palace

Sales brochure
https://www.amacaerospace.com/wp-conten ... h_Spec.pdf

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Dont feel bad. The Qatari royals still have 2 other 747-8i BBJ in their fleet in addition to their other aircraft


Yes... they do... but the sale right now when it is quite hard to pass on a B747 - even more one with this configuration - is quite telling from a Qatari point of view. Qatar tends to be very dry so things do not rust over there (even more if they manage to keep this one in a good hangar) so the fact that they passing away is somehow remarkable despite they having other 2 around.

Last time I was in the UAE - early this year just before COVID19 clipped my wings - people there were saying that it hurts having the blockade because they missed Qataris turning up there and spending lavishly around... They are not that famed for shying away from extravagance...

Either they are considering buying some new toy to replace it or there's real need to start stashing the QR's notes away...
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:37 am

Nomadd wrote:
johns624 wrote:
It must have lost its new plane smell so they didn't want it anymore.

You can get that back by spritzing a little formaldehyde into the cabin.


Too much effort & definitely too expensive ...
 
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Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:36 am

I would have something like the cockpit NAV display presented throughout the cabin instead of airshow for sure.
This one doesn't seem to have the apron lift which is a pretty cool feature.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:14 pm

Apron lift? What do you mean?
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:35 pm

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Apron lift? What do you mean?

Lift is UK-speak for elevator.
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:25 pm

No doubt that Sam Chui blogger will be doing a vlog on it.
 
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Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:09 pm

What is an "Oven Goat" ? (p12 on the equipment list) - I assume it is an oven for cooking goats.

What is it about cooking goats that needs a different design of oven or can you cook a sheep in a goat oven as well?
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:09 pm

Revelation wrote:
Toinou wrote:
Apron lift? What do you mean?

Lift is UK-speak for elevator.

Yes, I get that, thanks.
I meant: does that mean some aircraft have an in-built lift that can go all the way to the apron?
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:25 pm

Toinou wrote:
Revelation wrote:
Toinou wrote:
Apron lift? What do you mean?

Lift is UK-speak for elevator.

Yes, I get that, thanks.
I meant: does that mean some aircraft have an in-built lift that can go all the way to the apron?

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Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:28 pm

Revelation wrote:
Toinou wrote:
Revelation wrote:
Lift is UK-speak for elevator.

Yes, I get that, thanks.
I meant: does that mean some aircraft have an in-built lift that can go all the way to the apron?

Yes: https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2014/01/2 ... ts-patent/

Wow! You learn something everyday!
I see there is a patent. Was that ever installed for real?
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:54 pm

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Interesting that that plane is up for sale, but QAF is holding on to a much older fleet, including its A340s and narrow-bodies.

Likely reason could be the older birds wouldn't attract as much interest and generate substantial proceeds (besides needing a few for the lesser princes). But maybe (just maybe) the oil rich state now realizes that operating three opulent VLAs (in addition to the others) at the same time is not very prudent (does the word exist in their vocabulary)? And perhaps the combined pressures of the pandemic and embargo are finally taking their toll :?:
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:05 pm

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johns624 wrote:
It must have lost its new plane smell so they didn't want it anymore.


Or maybe the Qataris are in deep sh*t because of the current situation


Not really. Qatar is tiny, has a lot of gas (which actually has gone up in price a little). they've been running budget surpluses for the last several years.

Their crazy neighbor that started the whole oil price war is in much deeper shit due to their out of control spending.
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:42 pm

I have started a Go Fund Me page.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:49 pm

What are the running costs per year? A ball park figure, 10% of value?
Think I might have more fun with a Mega yacht.
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:04 pm

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What are the running costs per year? A ball park figure, 10% of value?
Think I might have more fun with a Mega yacht.


Why compromise? Get both!

The crew positions your yacht to the location of your choosing and then you fly to the yacht in the VVIP aircraft.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:51 pm

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What are the running costs per year? A ball park figure, 10% of value?
Think I might have more fun with a Mega yacht.


The running costs would be prohibitive. So many special certificates. The hangar space. A bunch of expert staff.

The large size and incredible ostentatious display create security threats. This is just not a useful plan to anyone. There are only about 10 head of states that want this and can afford to operate it. When your king orders something like this, it is a sign your country has the wrong priorities.

Normal rich guys like Bezos or Gates just fly netjets, typically BBJ or ACJ. That's the real top end in the real world. Convenient, almost equally luxurious, way less hassle, cheaper.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:18 pm

Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates do not fly NetJets. They both have G650’s based at KBFI.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:35 pm

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What are the running costs per year? A ball park figure, 10% of value?
Think I might have more fun with a Mega yacht.


You know what they say. If you have to ask....
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:14 pm

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Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates do not fly NetJets. They both have G650’s based at KBFI.


Thanks, was relying on a Warren Buffet netjets article from 15-20 years ago. G650 is a perfect tool for the guy with lots of money. Security team may require bigger jet, which is why I said that too. Maybe they have a security jet tagging along too?
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:21 pm

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Let’s say that the price is $500M for the jet and 20,000 people chip in. We’d ‘only’ pay $25,000 each!! Let’s start the group fund me account now!!! :lol:

The price may very well have been $500M. But guys who buy such things want their own interior style, and they hardly ever buy second hand stuff.

This bird is likely to sit idle in some desert for the next three or four years, and then be sold for $50M to a cargo company for freighter conversion.
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:16 am

prebennorholm wrote:
The price may very well have been $500M. But guys who buy such things want their own interior style, and they hardly ever buy second hand stuff.

A.netters are not a picky lot...as long as it has wings and engines -- they're happy campers. :cloudnine:

prebennorholm wrote:
This bird is likely to sit idle in some desert for the next three or four years, and then be sold for $50M to a cargo company for freighter conversion.

Great...that would just be $2,500 for each member then. Four years should be enough time to raise the funds. Converting it to a freighter is tantamount to sacrilege! :hissyfit:

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Used to be a regular at LAX, hopefully the new owner will bring her here again.

Not to worry, we'd arrange with Messrs Ballmer and Kroenke for a spot to park the 748i next to the arena and stadium - to attract big sports fans, Hollywood types and rock stars! :goodvibes:


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Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:53 am

Devilfish wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
Used to be a regular at LAX, hopefully the new owner will bring her here again.

Not to worry, we'd arrange with Messrs Ballmer and Kroenke for a spot to park the 748i next to the arena and stadium - to attract big sports fans, Hollywood types and rock stars! :goodvibes:


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Now THAT sounds like a plan, let's start the petition :D
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:54 am

Didnt they gift one of their 748 to turkey. So all together they had 4 at one time.
 
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:28 am

Veigar wrote:
CALMSP wrote:
been losing too much money with QR, need to get some cash


really makes you think how the sands’ vip aircraft are. are the two SP not losing cash now, especially with crippled tourism in the casinos they own?


The SP's were pretty cheap to start with, they have been doing some flying domestically and in the end, they are not there to make money, they are there to transport people in privacy.
 
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:56 am

If memory serves me right, this was actually built for a former member of the QR ruling family who has since passed. it was never part of the real or current royal fleet for the present rulers (those in QR colours). Some tin pot dictator might be interested, just change a few crest of arms, the interior is not totally OTT, quite contemporary actually for such a craft in the middle east.
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:16 pm

Too big for a private Jet. There is a reason for very capable lower profile airplanes sized like a Gulfstream.
 
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:37 pm

Devilfish wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
Interesting that that plane is up for sale, but QAF is holding on to a much older fleet, including its A340s and narrow-bodies.

Likely reason could be the older birds wouldn't attract as much interest and generate substantial proceeds (besides needing a few for the lesser princes). But maybe (just maybe) the oil rich state now realizes that operating three opulent VLAs (in addition to the others) at the same time is not very prudent (does the word exist in their vocabulary)? And perhaps the combined pressures of the pandemic and embargo are finally taking their toll :?:


Qatar needs the A340s and narrow bodies for the lesser royals not worthy of the 747, or when they want to be a little more inconspicuous.

The new widebody metal has mostly just been 747s for a while.
 
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:11 pm

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The new widebody metal has mostly just been 747s for a while.

:idea: Now here's a thought. What if the Amir is getting an A380 that QR could no longer afford to take in, to replace the subject 748i :?: Is there a completion house capable and daring enough to accomplish the work? That would make him the uber exclusive owner of the only VVIP A380 ever :!: :stretch: :spin:
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:51 pm

Toinou wrote:
Apron lift? What do you mean?

Revelation wrote:
Lift is UK-speak for elevator.
Yeah, trust the Brits to mess with their own language. :duck:

I'm a bit late to the party (as usual), and totally disappointed that this one slipped under the radar.
Apron lift has multiple meanings, in my twisted world anyways...

1) A strange & secret ritual practised by Freemasons
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2) Cosmetic surgery for when the beer-belly is so gross it gets in the way of your.....

3) A kind of dumb-waiter for aircraft, possibly to deliver food for the galley, and/or carry an infirm or immobile passenger, but in this particular case configured to reach ground level (Speiseaufzug)

Way, way back, there was a thread about the [lower deck galley] elevators on the L-1011, which appear to be both for food, and for personnel, but 100% internal.


And this is where it gets really weird (yes, even by my standards!)

PSA's L-1011s featured a small downstairs cocktail lounge instead of a galley. And of one of the really bizarre requirements was extra floor strength, specifically for that section, in case of a wheels-up landing. This was engineered by means of a bulge, just behind the nose-gear section.
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:09 pm

Veigar wrote:
CALMSP wrote:
been losing too much money with QR, need to get some cash


really makes you think how the sands’ vip aircraft are. are the two SP not losing cash now, especially with crippled tourism in the casinos they own?


...because the RASM for a flying casino catering to whales is extremely high?? the sands basically put on the ritz for these guys and they hand them wads of cash.....
 
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:55 pm

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
Revelation wrote:
Lift is UK-speak for elevator.
Yeah, trust the Brits to mess with their own language. :duck:

I was going to go with UK-sprache in honor of the House of Windsor's own language, but thought better of it! :duck:

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
I'm a bit late to the party (as usual), and totally disappointed that this one slipped under the radar.

Apron lift has multiple meanings, in my twisted world anyways...

1) A strange & secret ritual practised by Freemasons
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/busi ... 52542.html

2) Cosmetic surgery for when the beer-belly is so gross it gets in the way of your.....

3) A kind of dumb-waiter for aircraft, possibly to deliver food for the galley, and/or carry an infirm or immobile passenger, but in this particular case configured to reach ground level (Speiseaufzug)

I was pretty nervous when I opened the link. Luckily it wasn't as bad as I thought. I think we can all agree we do not want to see any Freemasons lift their aprons.

In US-corporate-sprache there is a similar expression "to go open kimono". It also brings up some pretty disagreeable mental imagery, at least in most cases. It's also a pretty dubious expression. If we're going open kimono now to get the real truth, all the rest of the time we've been going closed kimono so we must have been hearing much less than the real truth.

Personally, I didn't think the aviation apron lift was a big Revelation(tm). I know there are very high net worth individuals, and some are elderly and wheelchair bound, and also very protective with regard to privacy and security, so I presumed such a thing was around for a long time already.
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:08 pm

N47 wrote:
Didnt they gift one of their 748 to turkey. So all together they had 4 at one time.

I think it was Morocco.

Edit: That was the Emiratis that gave it to Morocco.
 
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Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:03 am

Bricktop wrote:
N47 wrote:
Didnt they gift one of their 748 to turkey. So all together they had 4 at one time.

I think it was Morocco.

Edit: That was the Emiratis that gave it to Morocco.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45550537

This is the one i was thinking of. I havent heard of that one though i guess if u have enough to buy a 747 as a private jet then u have enough to give it as a gift too.
 
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Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:58 pm

Come to think of it...presently, the only one with all the money outside of the ME who could afford that 748i BBJ might not be interested due to geopolitical considerations. Instead, they may just wait for this to be withdrawn from service before conversion into a dedicated state transport..... :scratchchin:



It would be a gargantuan step up from their ACJ319 mock up, but that should give AMECO plenty to learn and do during this pandemic..... :scared:

https://www.flightglobal.com/systems-an ... 08.article


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Would go a long way towards fulfilling their dynastic destiny. :spin:

https://www.flightglobal.com/mro/trade- ... 30.article
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Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:50 pm

How much would it cost to bring it up to Air Force 1 specs?
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Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:29 am

I assume this is one of those "if you have to ask how much it is you can't afford it" deals?
 
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Re: Qatari 747-8i BBJ flying mansion hits the market

Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:38 am

The G650 and other bizjets of its size have impressive performance but they’re still pretty small inside, especially on a 15+ hour flight


If money was no object I’d have a 787-8, great range, high cruise speed, loads of space and not so big that operation is limited to large- ish airports


Plus you get airliner reliability, support and best of all the ability to recruit well trained airline pilots
The best contribution to safety is a competent Pilot.


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