AAMDanny wrote:chunhimlai wrote:Time for Manston gateway for 4 runways and terminals for 150mpax
Like your super plan you had in mind for EXT?
But really, 150m for Kent? Would never happen.
User001 wrote:For avoidance of doubt the list is Heathrow, Gatwick, City, Luton, Southend, Stansted, Biggin Hill, Northolt and now Manston. I've included Biggin hill and Northolt due to including the general aviation around LAX such as Santa Monica, Le Bourget in Paris and Teteboro in New York. But it still doesn't include Blackbushe as another biz jet entry point for the London area and Oxford, which bizzarely, did market itself as London Oxford for a while!
SueD wrote:With the right marketing and a little blue sky thinking Manston could Be a nice little Freeport right on the doorstep of EU;imho it’s immediate competition is really Ostend .
SueD wrote:As a Freeport site build onsite clearance facilities to both the EU and UK markets - Gotta build those facilities post Brexit anyway .
SueD wrote:If goods bound for the UK can land in the Netherlands and Belgium and traverse the Channel, with careful planning an EU/UK clearing station on site at Manston and careful pricing, imho some of those flows have the potential to be reversed .
SueD wrote:I am being quite serous this could be a major transit point into the EU for UK roaded exports and landed traffic transit traffic.
davidjohnson6 wrote:if that is the primary motivation for reopening the airport, then it should probably be funded in the same way as NATS - namely that the collection of airlines which use the London airport system should all put some money into the pot
Furthermore, there would be a need potentially to have significant handling facilities if being a bad weather reserve airport is the primary motivation. That means having many of the costs of being a major airport if MSE is to be an effective reliever airport, but little of the revenues. If even 5 A320s were diverted from LGW to MSE within 1 hour, would Manston really manage ?
That said, Prestwick is great when bad weather turns up in Scotland - but it seems to be losing large quantities of money. Why would Manston succeed where Prestwick fails ?
User001 wrote:This decision is lunacy.
Firstly, freight is being adequately handled in the UK.
EMA is obviously the main cargo hub best placed to serve the bulk of the UK. Doncaster and Prestwick also taking their fair share of the market.
For London itself, Stansted seems more than capable of handling the majority, with Luton and Southend also having supporting roles. The LHR freighters do so as they use slots that no other airlines really want. So even trying to displace the LHR freight seems a little futile as its unlikely airlines would rush for those slots.
Then there is the fact that this would be another London area Airport. Does London need 9 airports? Definitely not!
For avoidance of doubt the list is Heathrow, Gatwick, City, Luton, Southend, Stansted, Biggin Hill, Northolt and now Manston. I've included Biggin hill and Northolt due to including the general aviation around LAX such as Santa Monica, Le Bourget in Paris and Teteboro in New York. But it still doesn't include Blackbushe as another biz jet entry point for the London area and Oxford, which bizzarely, did market itself as London Oxford for a while!
I can't think of many cities having so many airports?
Paris has 4 (if you count Beauvais).
Los Angeles has several but then the greater Los Angeles area is a huge metropolis.
New York has 4 in its immediate vicinity (if you include Teteboro which is just general
Tokyo has 2 main airports and that's a huge city
You get the idea.
Yes, the London aviation market is big, and London as a city is rather large, but 9 airports large? Crazy!
AAMDanny wrote:In all seriousness, why does it need to reopen?
For freight, LHR and STN serve the market well and are better connected to the rest of the UK from the South East of England. Also, very much more established. LTN even has a very small DHL operation. LGW is not that far away either and has their own Cargo facilities
davidjohnson6 wrote:If the aim is to try to reuse existing runways and avoid the cost of building major infrastructure, then Cranfield Airport if it were converted to cargo, seems likely to be a far superior candidate as a freight hub, compared to Manston...
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