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Last ERJ - Embraer Regional Jet Delivered: a end of an era and the history behind it !

Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:17 am

On June 19, the German business charter airline Air Hamburg received its latest addition to the fleet: the Legacy 650E from Embraer.
The aircraft with registration D-ANCE, msn 14501240 is a very special one, since it is the last produced aircraft of the ERJ family.

In addition to this “footnote”, I would like to share a little bit of the story of how the ERJ family saved Embraer:

In August 1989, Embraer was in a difficult situation and the future was totally uncertain. As a business, the company was vulnerable to extreme dependence and the Brazilian government and respective defense contracts. Furthermore, the failure with the binational Brazil-Argentina adventure in the doomed CBA-123 Vector project had been bitter. Scarce and valuable resources were spent on a technically perfect project, but not desired by the market. The solution found by the company management and the Ministry of Aeronautics to recover Embraer, was its transfer to private capital. Then, in 1992, the privatization process of the company started, which ended on December 7, 1994, when Embraer was transferred to the private sector.

However, still in 1989 Embraer already decided to enter the relatively new and rapidly growing market for regional jets, then dominated by the CRJ-200 at the time. This initiative came from a contact by COMAIR, an important operator at the time of the EMB-120 Brasília, who wanted a jet in the range of 50 seats and turbofan engines.

Privatized on December 7, 1994, Embraer's new management started to objectify the market and financial results, adopting a culture centered on efficiency, but without abandoning the technological excellence that had characterized the company as a state-owned company. The ERJ-145 project was chosen to be the “flagship” of Embraer's new management. It was a high bet made by the company at the time. Development and production costs were budgeted at $ 300 million and the company expected to sell at least 400 units by the end of that decade to make a profit.

Before its final design, there were two preliminary projects: one with the engines over the wings (picture 1) and later the other with the engines under the wings (picture2), and both configured for 45 seats. However, tests in Boeing's wind tunnel (which irony) showed the shortcomings of both projects. As a final configuration, the engines were moved to the rear, among other modifications, in addition to the passenger capacity having increased to 50 seats. The fuselage section would be the same used in the EMB-120 Brasília, in addition to the adoption of other solutions developed for the CBA-123.

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With the first orders from European Regional Airlines and Manx Airlines, on August 11, 1995 the ERJ-145 prototype performed its first flight. In 1998, Embraer closed an important sale of 200 units of the jet to Continental Express. Due to the extreme success of the ERJ-145, in 2001 Embraer produced 18 planes monthly.

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August 11, 1995 ERJ-145 first flight (picture courtesy by Embraer)

This success gave rise to other models:
The ERJ-135 for 37 passengers (picture 1), the ERJ-140 (picture 2) for 44 passengers and the ERJ-145XR (picture 3) for 50 passengers, but with greater range.

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The same platform of the ERJ-145 was used in military versions: the 145-SA Airborne Early Warning (picture 1), the 145-AEW&C Airborne Early Warning and Control (picture 2), 145-RS Remote Intelligence and Surveillance and the 145-MP Maritime Patrol (picture 3).

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Finally, in 2000 at Farnborough Air Show, Embraer announced the introduction of the executive version, The Legacy 600, built on the same platform of the ERJ-135. Later, and with improvements and refinements, it became the Legacy 650.

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After 26 years and 6 months, after 1240 units were produced (three times more than the 400 planes intended by the company's new management at the time of its privatization), the ERJ says goodbye to Embraer's commercial line !!!
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:44 am

Darn. Always was a cool plane in my eyes.
 
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Late edit: the missing picture of ERJ-145XR:

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An Expressjet (Continental) E145 was the first plane I ever worked on the ramp back in 2008. Loved working them and would take one over a CRJ-200 any day to either work or fly on.
 
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An Expressjet (Continental) E145 was the first plane I ever worked on the ramp back in 2008. Loved working them and would take one over a CRJ-200 any day to either work or fly on.


I completely agree. I flew on both for the first time last year and I 100% prefer an ERJ over the CRJ. The windows alone make it so much nicer.
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:45 am

Rode Expressjet (Continental Express) E145LR and XRs starting in the mid-2000s as a youngen, and am certified on the E140 and E145 as an FA at MQ.

A venerable workhorse for every fleet that operates them. May they continue to do so
 
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A summary of the ERJ - Embraer Regional Jets family civilian models produced (source: Embraer; wikipedia):

ERJ 135ER - Extended range, although this is the Baseline 135 model. Simple shrink of the ERJ 145, seating thirteen fewer passengers, for a total of 37 passengers.
ERJ 135LR - Long Range - increased fuel capacity and upgraded engines.
ERJ 140ER - Simple shrink of the ERJ 145, seating six fewer passengers, for a total of 44 passengers.
ERJ 140LR - Long Range (increased fuel capacity (5187 kg) and upgraded engines.
ERJ 145STD - The baseline original, seating for a total of 50 passengers.
ERJ 145EU - Model for European market. Same fuel capacity as 145STD (4174 kg) but an increased MTOW 19990 kg
ERJ 145ER - Extended Range, although this is the Baseline 145 model.
ERJ 145EP - Same fuel capacity as 145ER (4174 kg) but an increased MTOW 20990 kg.
ERJ 145LR - Long Range - increased fuel capacity (5187 kg) and upgraded engines.
ERJ 145LU - Same fuel capacity as 145LR (5187 kg) but an increased MTOW 21990 kg.
ERJ 145MK - Same fuel capacity (4174 kg), landing weight (MLW) and MTOW as in the 145STD, but a changed MZFW (17700 kg).
ERJ 145XR - Extra-long Range (numerous aerodynamic improvements, including winglets, strakes, etc. for lower cruise-configuration drag, a ventral fuel tank (aft location) in addition to the two main larger capacity wing tanks (same tanks as in the LR models), increased weight capacity, higher top speed and more powerful engines.
Legacy 600 - Business jet variant based on the ERJ 135.
Legacy 650 - Business jet variant based on ERJ 135 and is a longer-range version of the Legacy 600, giving it a range capability of 7,220 km (3,900 nmi)
Harbin Embraer ERJ145 - joint venture with Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation.
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:14 pm

Definitely a plane I have a big soft spot for. My mom worked for COEX when I was a kid starting in 2001 and I had many a time in the training center just visiting her, bring your kid to work day, or a joy ride in the simulator. My brother was an FA for them and now a friend of mine is an FO at XJ.

Long live the 145!
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:21 pm

The 145 with winglets is a sharp plane. Can't complain about 1-2 seating either.
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:22 pm

Prefer them over the CR2 every day. Am I the only one that remembers when they were called the EMB-145 Amazon?
 
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Am I the only one that remembers when they were called the EMB-145 Amazon?


Or nicknamed "the jungle jet" ...
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:41 pm

What's also remarkable is that no pilot or passenger ever died yet on any Embraer 145 family jet. (yes it had a macaber role in the GOL accident).
As someone from Embraer itself is active here, I am behind airlinerlist.com and always wondered: 15 MSNs have not been used as far as I know, 591, 1028, 1076, 1081,1085, 1088, 1093, 1097,1101, 1103, 1104, 1108,1112,1115,1116. What happened? Cancelled orders, or being delivered but unknown to the spotter world?
If they weren't built, I guess total production would be 1226 instead (1240 minus 15 plus the odd numbered prototype PT-ZJA )
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:47 pm

EMBSPBR wrote:
usflyer msp wrote:
Am I the only one that remembers when they were called the EMB-145 Amazon?


Or nicknamed "the jungle jet" ...



There were several, much less complementary nicknames used by the crews that flew them at my old airline.

In the back it was a nicer experience than the CRJ-200, but with over 5000 hours flying the ERJ series, I'm hard pressed to find something good to say about them. I don't miss them at all.
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:23 pm

EMBSPBR wrote:
A summary of the ERJ - Embraer Regional Jets family civilian models produced (source: Embraer; wikipedia):

ERJ 135ER - Extended range, although this is the Baseline 135 model. Simple shrink of the ERJ 145, seating thirteen fewer passengers, for a total of 37 passengers.
ERJ 135LR - Long Range - increased fuel capacity and upgraded engines.
ERJ 140ER - Simple shrink of the ERJ 145, seating six fewer passengers, for a total of 44 passengers.
ERJ 140LR - Long Range (increased fuel capacity (5187 kg) and upgraded engines.
ERJ 145STD - The baseline original, seating for a total of 50 passengers.
ERJ 145EU - Model for European market. Same fuel capacity as 145STD (4174 kg) but an increased MTOW 19990 kg
ERJ 145ER - Extended Range, although this is the Baseline 145 model.
ERJ 145EP - Same fuel capacity as 145ER (4174 kg) but an increased MTOW 20990 kg.
ERJ 145LR - Long Range - increased fuel capacity (5187 kg) and upgraded engines.
ERJ 145LU - Same fuel capacity as 145LR (5187 kg) but an increased MTOW 21990 kg.
ERJ 145MK - Same fuel capacity (4174 kg), landing weight (MLW) and MTOW as in the 145STD, but a changed MZFW (17700 kg).
ERJ 145XR - Extra-long Range (numerous aerodynamic improvements, including winglets, strakes, etc. for lower cruise-configuration drag, a ventral fuel tank (aft location) in addition to the two main larger capacity wing tanks (same tanks as in the LR models), increased weight capacity, higher top speed and more powerful engines.
Legacy 600 - Business jet variant based on the ERJ 135.
Legacy 650 - Business jet variant based on ERJ 135 and is a longer-range version of the Legacy 600, giving it a range capability of 7,220 km (3,900 nmi)
Harbin Embraer ERJ145 - joint venture with Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation.


You just forgot the Legacy 650E, the latest of the latest ERJ's!

Also: the last E190 will be delivered soon!
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:54 pm

Love that little airplane! I only flew them twice - EWR-ATL on a 145XR and ATL-EWR on a 145LR, both CO Express - and I was pretty impressed. Yes its a more than tiny cabin but the 1-2 configuration was very pleasant IMO and I never felt cramped at all even in this 2h flight, unlike the horrible CRJs! And flying itself was really fun, rocket takeoff and also as a passenger you really feel the difference sitting in a much smaller, lighter aircraft.

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Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:00 pm

solracfunk14 wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:
A summary of the ERJ - Embraer Regional Jets family civilian models produced (source: Embraer; wikipedia):

ERJ 135ER - Extended range, although this is the Baseline 135 model. Simple shrink of the ERJ 145, seating thirteen fewer passengers, for a total of 37 passengers.
ERJ 135LR - Long Range - increased fuel capacity and upgraded engines.
ERJ 140ER - Simple shrink of the ERJ 145, seating six fewer passengers, for a total of 44 passengers.
ERJ 140LR - Long Range (increased fuel capacity (5187 kg) and upgraded engines.
ERJ 145STD - The baseline original, seating for a total of 50 passengers.
ERJ 145EU - Model for European market. Same fuel capacity as 145STD (4174 kg) but an increased MTOW 19990 kg
ERJ 145ER - Extended Range, although this is the Baseline 145 model.
ERJ 145EP - Same fuel capacity as 145ER (4174 kg) but an increased MTOW 20990 kg.
ERJ 145LR - Long Range - increased fuel capacity (5187 kg) and upgraded engines.
ERJ 145LU - Same fuel capacity as 145LR (5187 kg) but an increased MTOW 21990 kg.
ERJ 145MK - Same fuel capacity (4174 kg), landing weight (MLW) and MTOW as in the 145STD, but a changed MZFW (17700 kg).
ERJ 145XR - Extra-long Range (numerous aerodynamic improvements, including winglets, strakes, etc. for lower cruise-configuration drag, a ventral fuel tank (aft location) in addition to the two main larger capacity wing tanks (same tanks as in the LR models), increased weight capacity, higher top speed and more powerful engines.
Legacy 600 - Business jet variant based on the ERJ 135.
Legacy 650 - Business jet variant based on ERJ 135 and is a longer-range version of the Legacy 600, giving it a range capability of 7,220 km (3,900 nmi)
Harbin Embraer ERJ145 - joint venture with Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation.


You just forgot the Legacy 650E, the latest of the latest ERJ's!

Also: the last E190 will be delivered soon!


Does that also included the E195? If so, for Embraer commercial, only:

E175 E1
E175 E2(?)
E190 E2
E195 E2

That's assuming the E175 E2 catches a break. Yikes. An efficient, but small, lineup
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:05 pm

Love flying on the E145 personally I find it much more comfortable when you have the A seat over the E175 and even the 737.
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:15 pm

UA748i wrote:

Does that also included the E195? If so, for Embraer commercial, only:

E175 E1
E175 E2(?)
E190 E2
E195 E2

That's assuming the E175 E2 catches a break. Yikes. An efficient, but small, lineup


I believe the OP is referring to the original ERJ family only, not including the E-Jets.
Although first marketed as ERJ-170/175/190/195 and certified as such (ERJ-170-100/200, ERJ-190-100/200), Embraer quickly dropped the ERJ label to their E-Jet products.
I wonder when people will understand:
Embraer 190 or simply E190, not ERJ-190. E-Jets are NOT ERJs!
Boeing 747-8, not Boeing 747-800. Same goes for 787.
Airbus A320, not Airbus 320.
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Although first marketed as ERJ-170/175/190/195 and certified as such (ERJ-170-100/200, ERJ-190-100/200), Embraer quickly dropped the ERJ label to their E-Jet products.


Ironically, the original ERJs are certified as the EMB-135/145, but quickly got the name ERJs. The 170s/190s were certified as ERJs, but soon the term “RJ” became more of a liability (it was great when they were replacing turboprops, but not when they started replacing larger mainline service), so they have deemphasized the RJ term in their names.
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AABusDrvr wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:
usflyer msp wrote:
Am I the only one that remembers when they were called the EMB-145 Amazon?


Or nicknamed "the jungle jet" ...



There were several, much less complementary nicknames used by the crews that flew them at my old airline.

In the back it was a nicer experience than the CRJ-200, but with over 5000 hours flying the ERJ series, I'm hard pressed to find something good to say about them. I don't miss them at all.


Like ‘Barbie Jet’ and ‘Disposable RJ’
 
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CATIIIevery5yrs wrote:
AABusDrvr wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:

Or nicknamed "the jungle jet" ...



There were several, much less complementary nicknames used by the crews that flew them at my old airline.

In the back it was a nicer experience than the CRJ-200, but with over 5000 hours flying the ERJ series, I'm hard pressed to find something good to say about them. I don't miss them at all.


.

Like ‘Barbie Jet’ and ‘Disposable RJ’

I loved the E135. a little rocket for the morning commute


LoL. In the late 1990s, RJs were routinely called Barbie jets. It was just as common to call the CRJ that.

The reality is an ATP raised pilot costs.

I think there is a new market for replacement, but new engines and a more modern wind. I could see 3-across as the cross section.

Since the last was a business jet, we can expect use for decades.

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solracfunk14 wrote:
You just forgot the Legacy 650E, the latest of the latest ERJ's!

:checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: Thanks !

solracfunk14 wrote:
Also: the last E190 will be delivered soon!


leleko747 wrote:
I believe the OP is referring to the original ERJ family only, not including the E-Jets.
Although first marketed as ERJ-170/175/190/195 and certified as such (ERJ-170-100/200, ERJ-190-100/200), Embraer quickly dropped the ERJ label to their E-Jet products.


Although in terms of registration and model both families are considered ERJ, this term was later adopted commercially only for family 145/135/140/Legacy 600/650 and its civilian and military variants.
The term E-Jets was adopted commercially by Embraer for the E170/175/190/195 family and later for E2.
And while the latest E190-E1 is due to be delivered to Air France (HOP), the E-Jets family is still made up of the E175-E1 and the 190/195/175-E2 products, all in production. Within Embraer, it is the same family. Recalling that the 1600th E-Jet was recently delivered, an E190-E2 for Helvetic Airways.

leleko747 wrote:
I believe the OP is referring to the original ERJ family only, not including the E-Jets.
Although first marketed as ERJ-170/175/190/195 and certified as such (ERJ-170-100/200, ERJ-190-100/200), Embraer quickly dropped the ERJ label to their E-Jet products.


I will answer you later. I know who has the right information. As soon as available I will be happy to post here ...
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lightsaber wrote:
CATIIIevery5yrs wrote:
AABusDrvr wrote:


There were several, much less complementary nicknames used by the crews that flew them at my old airline.

In the back it was a nicer experience than the CRJ-200, but with over 5000 hours flying the ERJ series, I'm hard pressed to find something good to say about them. I don't miss them at all.


.

Like ‘Barbie Jet’ and ‘Disposable RJ’

I loved the E135. a little rocket for the morning commute


LoL. In the late 1990s, RJs were routinely called Barbie jets. It was just as common to call the CRJ that.

The reality is an ATP raised pilot costs.

I think there is a new market for replacement, but new engines and a more modern wind. I could see 3-across as the cross section.

Since the last was a business jet, we can expect use for decades.

Lightsaber


Total agree. Heck both the 200 and 145 are 20+ years strong.
 
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Me too. Weren´t they sexy ? :bouncy:
 
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This is a very nice tribute to a great family of aircraft. Well done. The ERJ has been a workhorse all over the world. I never minded it as a passenger, and always thought they were very comfortable and quiet. As a controller, I'd rather work an E145 over a CRJ2 any day of the week. It's pretty amazing to see how far Embraer has come in such a short period of time, mainly building on the success of the ERJ.
 
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Love flying on the E145 personally I find it much more comfortable when you have the A seat over the E175 and even the 737.


Being small airport based, probably 40% of my flying for the last 20 years has been in an ERJ. Mostly in seat 1A or 11A/12A (exit row). My little airport can turn one around in about 15 minutes. Loved flying them to ORD, but flying them to DFW can get a little long. Hope AA keeps them around for a few more years.
 
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EMBSPBR wrote:

This is a very nice tribute to a great family of aircraft. Well done.


Thank you so much for your compliment !!!!! :) :) :)
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:29 pm

An an immaculate safety record, so far, no fatal accident, which is really amazing considering the size of the fleet and the kind of operations.
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:33 pm

Why do pilots not like them? Their impressive safety record (no losses in the North America) is downright amazing considering the age and experience of her pilots.
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    Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:37 pm

    BMI flew the 145 in Europe and I have fond memories of flying on them on the short hop from Bremen to Brussels. They had thick blue leather seats, and everything was a bit worn - but on the nice side.
    Both BMI and the route don’t exist anymore.
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    Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:41 pm

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    An an immaculate safety record, so far, no fatal accident, which is really amazing considering the size of the fleet and the kind of operations.


    The ERJ 145 family of aircraft has no reported crashes or fatalities due to mechanical malfunction in over 20 million hours.

    Source: wikipedia

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    - on February 11, 1998 a Continental Express, now United Express, ERJ 145ER (N14931) crashed in Beaumont, Texas on takeoff during a training flight. NTSB reports that after the incorrect application of rudder during a V1 cut maneuver, the left wing stalled. The aircraft was damaged beyond repair.

    - on December 28, 1998, a Rio-Sul pilot descended beyond the normal rates and landed at a speed significantly higher than the normal landing speed. The aircraft tail section cracked and was dragged along the runway. The airplane involved was an ERJ 145ER (PT-SPE) and this happened at Afonso Pena Airport, in Curitiba, Brazil. The airplane was damaged beyond economical repair.

    - on September 29, 2006, an ExcelAire Embraer Legacy EMB 135BJ (N600XL), collided with Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907, a Boeing 737-800, while flying over the northern state of Mato Grosso en route to Manaus from São José dos Campos. The “Legacy” made an emergency landing at a military airstrip at Cachimbo, Pará, Brazil, with minor damages and with its 5 passengers and 2 crew members uninjured. The Gol 737 crashed in the Amazon forest east of Peixoto de Azevedo, killing all 148 passengers and 6 crew members.

    - on 7 December 2009, an Embraer ERJ 135 operated by South African Airlink (ZS-SJW) on a scheduled flight SA-8625 from Cape Town, overshot the runway when trying to land in wet weather at George Airport; no fatalities were reported. It was determined that the aircraft touched down in the area of the fourth landing marker. According to the air traffic controller (ATC) on duty at the time, the landing appeared normal, however the aircraft did not vacate the runway but instead veered to the right and went past the ILS localizer. The aircraft collided with eleven approach lights before it burst through the aerodrome perimeter fence coming to rest in a nose-down attitude on a public road. The preliminary investigation showed the tires did display some evidence of aqua-planing. The plane was damaged beyond economical repair.

    - on August 25, 2010, an ERJ 145 operated by Passaredo, crashed on approach to Vitória da Conquista. The plane landed short of the runway and the crew lost control, resulting in the aircraft sustaining severe damage before coming to a stop away from the runway. Two of the 27 people on board were injured. The airline said the plane was unable to lower landing gear, although observers said the landing gear was lowered while the aircraft was landing.

    - on September 4, 2011, a United Express Embraer 145 slid off the runway upon landing at Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International in Ottawa, Canada. All 44 passengers aboard were uninjured. The plane sustained substantial damage to its gear and wing on the right-hand side. The plane was damaged beyond economic repair.
     
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    Harbin Embraer ERJ145 - joint venture with Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation.


    The type certificate for the Harbin built 145s (which are jointly ANAC/CAAC certified) states that they are 145 LI variant.
     
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    B747-437B wrote:
    EMBSPBR wrote:
    Harbin Embraer ERJ145 - joint venture with Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation.


    The type certificate for the Harbin built 145s (which are jointly ANAC/CAAC certified) states that they are 145 LI variant.


    :checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: Thank you for the update !!!
     
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    Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:54 pm

    MohawkWeekend wrote:
    Why do pilots not like them? Their impressive safety record (no losses in the North America) is downright amazing considering the age and experience of her pilots.


    I recall reading on here that the cockpit is very noisy due to wind noise?
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    Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:55 pm

    MohawkWeekend wrote:
    Why do pilots not like them? Their impressive safety record (no losses in the North America) is downright amazing considering the age and experience of her pilots.


    One of the loudest flight decks out there for a jet...... Small flight deck, the CRJ-200 has more room up front and is quieter.
     
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    Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:29 pm

    MohawkWeekend wrote:
    Why do pilots not like them? Their impressive safety record (no losses in the North America) is downright amazing considering the age and experience of her pilots.


    Not sure on the source on that... but from my experience almost every single pilot I know who has flown the ERJ has loved it; myself included. She will always have a very special place in my heart as my first airliner to fly and first to hold Captain on. The ERJ was an absolute blast to fly (minus the cockpit noise - she def is exceptionally loud). When I left her, I had just under 7k hours flying the 145 series and to this day I miss flying her even though I've been flying 767's now for 3 years... (don't get me wrong I love the 76 flying and the plane is great.. but the ERJ was just an absolute joy)

    As to additional nicknames for the Amazon beyond Jungle Jet, Electric Reset Jet (ERJ), and Flying Lawn Dart; my personal favorite and used most by myself was calling her the Taco Rocket!
    "Sonny, did we land? or were we shot down?"
     
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    Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:45 pm

    ThePinnacleKid wrote:
    MohawkWeekend wrote:
    Why do pilots not like them? Their impressive safety record (no losses in the North America) is downright amazing considering the age and experience of her pilots.


    Not sure on the source on that... but from my experience almost every single pilot I know who has flown the ERJ has loved it; myself included. She will always have a very special place in my heart as my first airliner to fly and first to hold Captain on. The ERJ was an absolute blast to fly (minus the cockpit noise - she def is exceptionally loud). When I left her, I had just under 7k hours flying the 145 series and to this day I miss flying her even though I've been flying 767's now for 3 years... (don't get me wrong I love the 76 flying and the plane is great.. but the ERJ was just an absolute joy)

    As to additional nicknames for the Amazon beyond Jungle Jet, Electric Reset Jet (ERJ), and Flying Lawn Dart; my personal favorite and used most by myself was calling her the Taco Rocket!


    I could introduce you to a bunch of guys I used to fly with, who have no love for the ERJ, at all.

    The cockpit is loud, cramped and uncomfortable. The systems seem very Mickey Mouse, compared to other transport airplanes. It's been a long time since I've flown it now, and I only have around 5.5K in it, but off the top of my head. The issues with the Horizontal stab trim motors, the gust lock, the nose wheel steering. I believe the AD's for the stab trim, and nose wheel steering are still in place. The constant dutch roll on autopilot due to control cable stretching. The radar is a joke, due to the small antenna required because of the nose shape, the excessive p-static issue they never seemed to get figured out. The only all DC (ok, it's got TRU's, for avionics only) transport jet airplane out there. I've only had three "real" emergencies in my 31 year career so far, they were all on the ERJ.

    Glad you enjoyed it, but I never miss flying it. I do chuckle when someone I'm flying with says the cockpit on 73 is loud, usually they have never flown the ERJ.
     
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    the Taco Rocket!

    What is the meaning behind this name?
     
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    I have about 3,000 hours in the ERJ and really enjoyed it. Granted, I stepped away from my flying career after four years with ExpressJet (Continental Express), so I've never flown any other jet. As others have mentioned, the cockpit was exceptionally loud, so many of us wore the classic David Clark headsets because they provided over-ear hearing protection. It was a treat if we encountered circumstances that allowed us to remove the headsets and hear ATC through the cockpit speakers. I could make a laundry list of suggested improvements to the cockpit, but I still think it's a great beginner jet at the start of anyone's 121 career. And with no VNAV, you actually need to be engaged with the aircraft to understand speed and power considerations. Also, I never had the "pleasure" of riding the jumpseat, but any jumpseater is basically straddling the center console. Long live the ERJ!
     
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    Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:38 pm

    I finally flew on 135's, 140's and 145's

    CO, AA and CA Pacific: 145's.
    AA: 140's
    LF: 135's
     
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    Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:41 pm

    clickhappy wrote:
    the Taco Rocket!

    What is the meaning behind this name?


    A friend of mine and I used to call the Jungle Jets because of their origin.
     
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    Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:03 am

    leleko747 wrote:
    UA748i wrote:

    Does that also included the E195? If so, for Embraer commercial, only:

    E175 E1
    E175 E2(?)
    E190 E2
    E195 E2

    That's assuming the E175 E2 catches a break. Yikes. An efficient, but small, lineup


    I believe the OP is referring to the original ERJ family only, not including the E-Jets.
    Although first marketed as ERJ-170/175/190/195 and certified as such (ERJ-170-100/200, ERJ-190-100/200), Embraer quickly dropped the ERJ label to their E-Jet products.


    Yeah, I know Leo, was just an offset reminder!
     
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    Thank you for the excellent summary of the history of this aircraft
     
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    I extremely disliked the Embraer as a pilot.

    It's avionics were an afterthought. The FMS boxes didn't even talk to each other. To go direct. it required both crewmembers to press Direct To on their own respective box. I just never bothered entering Direct To if I was Pilot Monitoring. The Pilot Flying's box is going direct to, mine is going somewhere else.

    There is a lot of negative learning that takes place when a new regional airline pilot starts out on an Embraer that they have to unlearn when they move to an Airbus or Boeing. You have to bypass a safety guards to do normal functions, like start an engine or start an APU. Now you have a generation of Embraer pilots who have no qualms about lifting a safety guard and activating it. Lifting a safety guard is supposed to be a rare event that forces you to think about - hey do you really want to do that?

    On an Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, the knobs on the flight control panel correspond to the glass panel - airspeed tape is on the left side of the PFD, heading is in the bottom center of the PFD and altitude is on the right side of the PFD. On the flight control panel, the left knob controls airspeed, the middle knob control heading, and the right knob selects altitude.

    On an Embraer, (135/145 175/195) They swapped the airspeed knob and heading knob - so heading is the left knob, airspeed is the middle knob and altitude is the right knob. So when these Embraer pilots move on to the next airplane and fly a Boeing or an Airbus, they have to unlearn the Embraer FCU. 95% of the time these pilots are okay, but when things get busy and things start getting hectic in a critical phase of flight, the ex-Embraer pilots flying an airbus/boeing will grab the wrong knob and grab the airspeed knob when they meant to turn the heading knob. or vice versa. It happens often, and when it happens, you do CRM and point out the deviation, they go oh oops. and it gets fixed.

    Every system on the airplane is manual - bleed management, fuel management, DC power management, except for anti-ice. the only system where you don't want automatic operation - anti-ice - is automatic. It would be nice if it's the other way around, everything automatic except for anti-ice.

    We called ERJ-135/145s mobile flying roadblocks, because they fly so slow, and we get slowed down to not overtake an Embraer flying at M.72 or climbing out at M.56.

    For some reason the airplane is incapable of flying faster than 250kts at 10,000ft. It's always saying "Hi Steve" when you're flying 249kts at 10,000ft.

    For some reason, air traffic controllers always wait until you're 1000 ft from level off to issue an instruction - invariably that's when the Embraer altitude alerter is going off in your headset or drowns out the cockpit loudspeaker and it's extremely loud - "ack - ack - ack" . and you just miss the controller's instruction - it's always - say again?

    About the only thing I liked about the Embraer is the AHRS unit - no flux gate magentometers (boo- CRJ), the push to talk switch on the outboard glareshield, and the absence of any modern navigation system on the airplane.
    Bonus animus sit, ab experientia. Quod salvatum fuerit de malis usu venit judicium.
     
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    Was there a point they made them with only the “Airbus” type plug door, or did they offer the fold down door with steps as well throughout production?
     
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    Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:41 pm

    Woodreau wrote:
    I extremely disliked the Embraer as a pilot.

    It's avionics were an afterthought. The FMS boxes didn't even talk to each other. To go direct. it required both crewmembers to press Direct To on their own respective box. I just never bothered entering Direct To if I was Pilot Monitoring. The Pilot Flying's box is going direct to, mine is going somewhere else.
    .

    Not if you had the better Honeywell FMS’s.
     
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    Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:44 pm

    flight152 wrote:
    Woodreau wrote:
    I extremely disliked the Embraer as a pilot.

    It's avionics were an afterthought. The FMS boxes didn't even talk to each other. To go direct. it required both crewmembers to press Direct To on their own respective box. I just never bothered entering Direct To if I was Pilot Monitoring. The Pilot Flying's box is going direct to, mine is going somewhere else.
    .

    Not if you had the better Honeywell FMS’s.


    Every system is manual? Are you kidding me? It has the easiest systems of any large plane I’ve ever flown. You pretty much touch nothing during flight. Oh, and the APU master does not have a guard.
     
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    Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:06 pm

    Woodreau wrote:
    The FMS boxes didn't even talk to each other. To go direct. it required both crewmembers to press Direct To on their own respective box. I just never bothered entering Direct To if I was Pilot Monitoring. The Pilot Flying's box is going direct to, mine is going somewhere else.


    They do if they're set to, I suspect that is an operator specific policy, but can be manually changed in the SETUP page.

    Woodreau wrote:
    There is a lot of negative learning that takes place when a new regional airline pilot starts out on an Embraer that they have to unlearn when they move to an Airbus or Boeing. You have to bypass a safety guards to do normal functions, like start an engine or start an APU. Now you have a generation of Embraer pilots who have no qualms about lifting a safety guard and activating it. Lifting a safety guard is supposed to be a rare event that forces you to think about - hey do you really want to do that?


    The clear plastic flaps over the engine start/stop controls are there to prevent accidental knocking. They are not the red guard switches you see on other critical systems that you wouldn't normally touch. There is no guard over the APU start/stop.

    Woodreau wrote:
    On an Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, the knobs on the flight control panel correspond to the glass panel - airspeed tape is on the left side of the PFD, heading is in the bottom center of the PFD and altitude is on the right side of the PFD. On the flight control panel, the left knob controls airspeed, the middle knob control heading, and the right knob selects altitude.

    On an Embraer, (135/145 175/195) They swapped the airspeed knob and heading knob - so heading is the left knob, airspeed is the middle knob and altitude is the right knob. So when these Embraer pilots move on to the next airplane and fly a Boeing or an Airbus, they have to unlearn the Embraer FCU. 95% of the time these pilots are okay, but when things get busy and things start getting hectic in a critical phase of flight, the ex-Embraer pilots flying an airbus/boeing will grab the wrong knob and grab the airspeed knob when they meant to turn the heading knob. or vice versa. It happens often, and when it happens, you do CRM and point out the deviation, they go oh oops. and it gets fixed.


    New one on me, You learn where the relevant controls are on the MCP. People occasionally reach for the wrong one, even when not changing type.

    Woodreau wrote:
    Every system on the airplane is manual - bleed management, fuel management, DC power management, except for anti-ice. the only system where you don't want automatic operation - anti-ice - is automatic. It would be nice if it's the other way around, everything automatic except for anti-ice.


    It's a fairly automatic aircraft, dark and midnight for most controls on the overhead panel. All the things you claim to be manual pretty much take care of themselves. The anti-ice does need some manual work on the ground if taking off in icing conditions, and in the air the automatic anti-ice can be a bit unhelpful... especially in a high speed descent if you're not ready for it.

    Woodreau wrote:
    We called ERJ-135/145s mobile flying roadblocks, because they fly so slow, and we get slowed down to not overtake an Embraer flying at M.72 or climbing out at M.56.

    Baffled by those comments. Just dug out my old AOM... climb profile according to Embraer is 240kt to 10,000ft. 270kt until conversion to M.65 to cruise. Standard cruise M.78. MMO.80. I'm aware some versions were MMO.78 but sill .72 to cruise and .56 to climb seem very slow. I'd be particularly concerned at high weights with the buffet margin, and that turbulence speed is M.63.

    I didn't think the aircraft was amazing, but it did the job. It wasn't my first jet, it flew ok, wasn't a massive fan of the control locks or the resulting heavy in roll, light in pitch response because of how the flight controls were designed. The flight deck was noisy... but in over 3 years I never had any emergency of significant issue with it. I always felt safe with it, for the size of aircraft I thought it was sturdy with good redundancy.
     
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    Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:23 pm

    MEA-707 wrote:
    As someone from Embraer itself is active here, I am behind airlinerlist.com and always wondered: 15 MSNs have not been used as far as I know, 591, 1028, 1076, 1081,1085, 1088, 1093, 1097,1101, 1103, 1104, 1108,1112,1115,1116. What happened? Cancelled orders, or being delivered but unknown to the spotter world?
    If they weren't built, I guess total production would be 1226 instead (1240 minus 15 plus the odd numbered prototype PT-ZJA )


    Except for the msn 145591 - that supposedly it would be a Legacy 600 for the FAB - Brazilian Air Force to transport authorities. However, they opted for used airplanes and this plane specifically did not have its construction completed - the 1028, 1076, 1081, 1085, 1088, 1093, 1097,1101, 1103, 1104, 1108,1112, 1115 and 1116 were supposed to be delivered by Embraer / Harbin joint venture in China to a local costumer that canceled the order. (*)
    (*) see the footnote below.

    So, the total production stand correct for 1223 units (no considering the prototypes), still, a great number if we consider the initial intention of production for 400 units.

    The last ERJ-145 in the passenger configuration was delivered in 2013 to Intel (shuttle), msn 14501186.
    In summary, were produced:
    . 720 ERJ-145
    . 126 ERJ-135
    . 74 ERJ-140
    . 285 EMB-136BJ Legacy
    . 18 defense variants of the ERJ-145

    And as for the prototype PT-ZJA, first an ERJ-145, msn 1450001, it has a interesting story:

    Source: https://embraer.com/global/en/news?slug ... 5-ao-musal

    Excerpts:
    EMBRAER DONATES ERJ 145 JET PROTOTYPE TO THE MUSAL - MUSEU AEROESPACIAL (AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM)


    “The PT-ZJA prototype has undisputed historical value, because it was used to test one only one, but three different models of Embraer’s family of ERJ 145 jets: ERJ 145, ERJ 135, and ERJ 140,” said Pedro Ferraz, Director of Embraer Education and Research Institute. “And it is with great pride and satisfaction that we transfer it to MUSAL’s valuable collection.”

    The first model of the family of regional jets was the ERJ 145, as a result of the aviation market demand for fast, less expensive jets. Embraer began to develop a jet aircraft with 50 seats, in 1989, but the project was interrupted by the crisis faced by the Company.

    In 1991, however, the development of the EMB 145 (original name of the ERJ 145) was reactivated and, that same year, studies began to schedule several changes. Thus, the PT-ZJA prototype of the ERJ 145 took its first flight in August 1995, and was certified by the then-CTA (Aeronautics Technical Center), now the Department of Aerospace Science and Technology (Departamento de Ciência e Tecnologia Aeroespacial – DCTA), in 1996.

    In order to meet market needs, Embraer decided to develop new versions based on the ERJ 145 platform, which resulted in the launch of the ERJ 135, with a fuselage shortened by 3.54 meters and 37 seats. So, the PT-ZJA prototype, which up to that time had the characteristics of an ERJ 145, had its original configuration altered to that of an ERJ 135, and it flew for the first time on July 4, 1998, followed by CTA and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) certification, in 1999.

    Later, in response to customer needs, Embraer announced the development of the ERJ 140, in September 1999. The model was conceived for 44 passengers, with a fuselage 2.12 meters longer than that of the ERJ 135 and 1.42 meter shorter than that of the ERJ 145. Once again, ERJ 140 tail number PT-ZJA the structure of the PT-ZJA prototype was modified, and it flew for the first time in the ERJ 140 configuration, on June 27, 2000."


    (*) And for the production in China at Harbin factory in a joint venture Embraer and Harbin:

    All experience with this venture in China, initiated in 2003, was a painful nightmare with promises made and not kept by the local government. The Chinese partners were open to improving their learning curve and were always willing to facilitate the production and marketing processes with the Chinese authorities. However, obstacles such as the reduction of import taxes on inputs used in the production line and others were making the partnership unfeasible. In fact, the airliner produced locally was more expensive than if purchased directly from the Embraer plant in Brazil and, for instance, the Chinese government already intended to promote the local development of its industry. In a subsequent agreement, the production line of the ERJ-145 gave way to the local production of the executive version Legacy with the promise of producing an adequate number of units that would at least maintain the costs for maintaining the facilities, a promise that once again was not fulfilled after the production of a few units. Finally, on June 1, 2016 and by mutual agreement, the plant in Harbin is closed.
     
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    Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:35 pm

    Crosswind wrote:

    Woodreau wrote:
    There is a lot of negative learning that takes place when a new regional airline pilot starts out on an Embraer that they have to unlearn when they move to an Airbus or Boeing. You have to bypass a safety guards to do normal functions, like start an engine or start an APU. Now you have a generation of Embraer pilots who have no qualms about lifting a safety guard and activating it. Lifting a safety guard is supposed to be a rare event that forces you to think about - hey do you really want to do that?


    The clear plastic flaps over the engine start/stop controls are there to prevent accidental knocking. They are not the red guard switches you see on other critical systems that you wouldn't normally touch. There is no guard over the APU start/stop.

    The guards are there because not long after they entered service, a crew meaning to shut the APU down with the start/stop knob during climb, turned an engine start/stop selector off. When they closed the thrust levers during descent, they satisfied the system logic, and the engine shut down. The guards were installed shortly after that.

    Woodreau wrote:
    We called ERJ-135/145s mobile flying roadblocks, because they fly so slow, and we get slowed down to not overtake an Embraer flying at M.72 or climbing out at M.56.

    Baffled by those comments. Just dug out my old AOM... climb profile according to Embraer is 240kt to 10,000ft. 270kt until conversion to M.65 to cruise. Standard cruise M.78. MMO.80. I'm aware some versions were MMO.78 but sill .72 to cruise and .56 to climb seem very slow. I'd be particularly concerned at high weights with the buffet margin, and that turbulence speed is M.63.

    Again, it's been over a decade since I've flown it, but at the time the factory FLC schedule was 270 to .56.

    I didn't think the aircraft was amazing, but it did the job. It wasn't my first jet, it flew ok, wasn't a massive fan of the control locks or the resulting heavy in roll, light in pitch response because of how the flight controls were designed. The flight deck was noisy... but in over 3 years I never had any emergency of significant issue with it. I always felt safe with it, for the size of aircraft I thought it was sturdy with good redundancy.

    My first leg after OE as a captain on the 145 I got to enjoy declaring my first emergency, and doing an overweight landing with the O2 mask and smoke goggles on, while the ARFF gave us a parade down the runway. Twice more I had to use the masks and smoke goggles on the ERJ. I wont shed a tear when the last one becomes a beer can.

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