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Spirit AeroSystems in dire straits

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:23 pm
by olle
It seems like spirit will only produce 72 Max during 2020 and is now in dire straits...

https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 04.article

Re: Spirit in dire straits

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:32 pm
by strfyr51
olle wrote:
It seems like spirit will only produce 72 Max during 2020 and is now in dire straits...

https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 04.article

well with the Covid crisis and Boeings troubles with the 737MAX? Did anyone EXPECT more? I can't see How.

Re: Spirit in dire straits

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:46 pm
by Aesma
Hundreds have been made that can't be delivered (and so no customer is paying), so making any more while the MAX isn't back in service doesn't make much sense.

Re: Spirit AeroSystems in dire straits

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:16 am
by FlyingElvii
olle wrote:
It seems like spirit will only produce 72 Max during 2020 and is now in dire straits...

https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 04.article

Closing San Antonio.
Didn't they also close a 747 facility in Tulsa recently??

Re: Spirit AeroSystems in dire straits

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:16 am
by scbriml
Continuing to produce 737 fuselages at 52/month when Boeing reduced production to 42/month isn't looking like such a smart move now.

Re: Spirit AeroSystems in dire straits

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:43 am
by davidjohnson6
Let us suppose for a moment that Spirit were to go bust - ie Chapter 7, not just Chapter 11
Is there an alternative fuselage manufacturer for Boeing on the 737 Max ?

Re: Spirit AeroSystems in dire straits

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:00 am
by Flying-Tiger
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Let us suppose for a moment that Spirit were to go bust - ie Chapter 7, not just Chapter 11
Is there an alternative fuselage manufacturer for Boeing on the 737 Max ?


Not in the USA I´m aware of. Bombardier Belfast would be an option, same Premium Aerotec Nordenham.

scbriml wrote:
Continuing to produce 737 fuselages at 52/month when Boeing reduced production to 42/month isn't looking like such a smart move now.


In retrospective: no. But we´re not aware what exactely they were told by Boeing, and if they were not simply adhereing to a production plan.

Re: Spirit AeroSystems in dire straits

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:57 am
by Momo1435
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Let us suppose for a moment that Spirit were to go bust - ie Chapter 7, not just Chapter 11
Is there an alternative fuselage manufacturer for Boeing on the 737 Max ?

The most likely scenario when this would happen is that Boeing will take this in house by buying the parts of Spirit which produce the Boeing parts (not just the 737 fuselages). That will be much quicker and in the long run also less expensive then searching for a new supplier which won't be easy in the current market situation. Other suppliers won't be standing in line to make the large investments needed to set up an new fuselage production line.

Re: Spirit AeroSystems in dire straits

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:19 am
by Kikko19
Momo1435 wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Let us suppose for a moment that Spirit were to go bust - ie Chapter 7, not just Chapter 11
Is there an alternative fuselage manufacturer for Boeing on the 737 Max ?

The most likely scenario when this would happen is that Boeing will take this in house by buying the parts of Spirit which produce the Boeing parts (not just the 737 fuselages). That will be much quicker and in the long run also less expensive then searching for a new supplier which won't be easy in the current market situation. Other suppliers won't be standing in line to make the large investments needed to set up an new fuselage production line.


yep, only solution IMHO also, bye bye externalization of production. welcome back centralization!!!

Re: Spirit AeroSystems in dire straits

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:39 am
by scbriml
Flying-Tiger wrote:
scbriml wrote:
Continuing to produce 737 fuselages at 52/month when Boeing reduced production to 42/month isn't looking like such a smart move now.


In retrospective: no. But we´re not aware what exactely they were told by Boeing, and if they were not simply adhereing to a production plan.


True, but I'm not aware of any other suppliers that continued to produce at the higher rate.