BrianDromey wrote:EIBusiness wrote:It's not as if the Government didn't have prior warning from other European countries that cases would spike again. It was trendy for a while to "blame the inbound arrivals" or to go on Twitter and post about measures against passengers from "high risk" areas. Cases per capita per day in Kildare during the past week for example are worse than many states here in the USA.
The cracks in this "coalition" government are already appearing. There is no strategy, there is no joined up thinking, there is no consideration of the tens of thousands of pending job losses in the Aviation sector. There is a hope and a prayer that somehow the schools will be re-opened and that a vaccine will arrive to return to some level of normality again gradually in 2021.
I really don’t recognise what you are describing. Other European counties approach is hardly different and aviation jobs have not been protected. IAG, Ryanair and easyJet have closed European bases, no Irish base has closed yet. LH and AF/KL have consumed a billion each and the UK has lent money to IAG, Wizz, easyJet and Ryanair, TUI and Jet2 have made redundancies.
That cases in Kildare are higher than parts of the US is entirely irrelevant. What is important is that Ireland went, over the course of 10 days, from 4/100,000 to 7 as per ECDC. It happens quickly and by stealth - the figures are already 10-14 days behind the reality.
We have done a huge amount of testing, compared to our European peers and the overall rate of positive testing is lower than our European peers at 0.2. Sweden’s mortality is at 12.1-1,000,000 the UK is similarly bad, although the positivity is falling and now 0.5%. To put all that in perspective the mortality rate in Sweden is 60 times the rate in Ireland. That’s what happens when you let this virus run rampant.
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/defaul ... 200810.pdf
The Republic of Ireland has c. 1,775 reported deaths and a population of 4.9 million people. Sweden has c. 5,800 reported deaths and a population of 10.23 million people. I'm struggling to see a 60 fold differential between both when taking those numbers into account. The data quoted on this thread just now highlighting the catastrophic drop off in activity for Aer Lingus is a good proxy for the overall situation in Ireland, given that Ryanair is of course a Europe wide based airline. The numbers speak for themselves. Ireland has been disproportionately impacted economically and has ended up with at best a "middle of the pack" situation with regard to the virus evolution.
The case incidence rate in Kildare being compared to the USA or anywhere else that is up for potential red list travel bans into Ireland is entirely relevant. Are you suggesting that the epidemiological situation in Ireland versus another jurisdiction that could be banned entirely from entry (based on recent Irish Government pronouncements over Twitter) is irrelevant?
We all know and are well aware of how incredibly infectious and potentially destructive this virus is, but Ireland is simply not achieving balance. There is death in the economic destruction and poverty that will follow from disproportionately severe measures. But don't take my word for it - tonight we see Ryanair indicating job losses and potentially winter layoffs in Ireland:
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0 ... ss-travel/
We even have the government openly admitting tonight that they were "caught out" by the rapid rise in cases - that's simply not acceptable.