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Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:49 pm

Hello there Turkish Aviation fans,
Welcome to another edition of our threads.
Pandemic is still creating havoc in the aviation industry. Airlines in Turkey are hurting just like any other airline in the world. There are less people willing to fly, there are many restrictions on routes airlines can fly to, there are many added operational costs due to the pandemic and economic slowdown is adding to all these worries.
Only good news seem to be coming from the TK Cargo operations.





-tolgaozbek.com reports that TK is looking to add 3 more 747Fs to its Cargo operations, bringing the overall type to 5 frames by the end of this year.
-I came across a new liveTV feed from the IST tarmac. The camera is facing South, showing PierD on the left and PierB on the right. It is not always live but still fun to look at. check it out : https://istanbulhavalimani.gov.tr/apron ... yayin.html
-TK’s IST-YVR is pushed back to December now. Not sure about EWR
-TK retired its only 737-700 frame. Too bad I did not get a chance to be on it.
-Temel Kotil is in ICU due to the virus. He got his masters degree in Aerospace Engineering from the University of Michigan in 1986 and he served as the GM and CEO of TK from 2005-2016. Currently he is the CEO of Turkish Aerospace Industries. Hope he gets through this.

Please continue with your news, views, photos, rumors and good old sense of humor. Also as usual, please refrain from personal attacks, political discussions.

You can find last month’s thread here:
Turkish Aviation August 2020
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:17 pm

When will cargo operations be consolidated at IST from ISL ?

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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:22 pm

I'm curious, why are you making a new thread every month? Why not just lump a 2020 thread?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:36 pm

BA744PHX wrote:
I'm curious, why are you making a new thread every month? Why not just lump a 2020 thread?

That got decided 15 years ago when we started these threads.
It is easier to read a monthly thread with around 200 posts than a "yearly" thread that might have thousands of posts.
This makes it more personal, like getting a monthly subscription/magazine.
Makes it so much easier to search for certain events/seasons and such.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:39 pm

The777Man wrote:
When will cargo operations be consolidated at IST from ISL ?

The777Man

Some of our Istanbul based a.netters might have a better answer but the Cargo facility at IST is not finished. IIRC, still more than a year to completion.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:44 pm

Thanks for the new thread.

Where did you get the information that Mr. Kotil is in ICU?
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:49 pm

TK787 wrote:
BA744PHX wrote:
I'm curious, why are you making a new thread every month? Why not just lump a 2020 thread?

That got decided 15 years ago when we started these threads.
It is easier to read a monthly thread with around 200 posts than a "yearly" thread that might have thousands of posts.
This makes it more personal, like getting a monthly subscription/magazine.
Makes it so much easier to search for certain events/seasons and such.


Thanks for a new thread . Agree with keeping it monthly . A yearly one would be a pain to trawl through especially when using a phone on the move.

Sadly Im not hopeful of any signs of a meaningful recovery until April next year with the whole industry.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:01 pm

TK105 wrote:
Thanks for the new thread.

Where did you get the information that Mr. Kotil is in ICU?

Few Turkish news sources and here also:
https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik- ... lindi.html
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:12 pm

TK787 wrote:
BA744PHX wrote:
I'm curious, why are you making a new thread every month? Why not just lump a 2020 thread?

That got decided 15 years ago when we started these threads.
It is easier to read a monthly thread with around 200 posts than a "yearly" thread that might have thousands of posts.
This makes it more personal, like getting a monthly subscription/magazine.
Makes it so much easier to search for certain events/seasons and such.

Okay was just curious, nothing more thanks ;)
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:40 pm

Latest news about TK agreement with the unions; if I read it correctly:
50% pay-cut for cockpit crews, 35% pay-cut for cabin crews and 30% pay-cut for ground crews.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:08 pm

I reckon this'd be a first for Sivas. A Wizz Air Airbus A320 aircraft flew to Sivas today, carrying the Hungarian National Football Team.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:55 pm

TK787 wrote:
The777Man wrote:
When will cargo operations be consolidated at IST from ISL ?

The777Man

Some of our Istanbul based a.netters might have a better answer but the Cargo facility at IST is not finished. IIRC, still more than a year to completion.


I'm trying to follow this subject, but haven't got any fresh news/clues. The Covid-19 pandemic must have slowed down the construction of TK's Cargo Terminal facility at IST (actually its first phase, that will enable a yearly capacity of some 2-2.5 million tons)). For this facility, IGA has had no responsibility or any commitments to build. They simply leased the land to TK (but I guess constructing the cargo apron is/will be IGA's part...).

On the other hand, it was somehow released to public that TK has been paying rather horrific land freight charges between ISL & IST. So, for TK, it is "the sooner, much much better!". Without any solid info, I expect the facility will be ready only by next year's first quarter. According to previous gossip, it was said that some parts of TK's rather new Cargo Terminal facility will be disassembled and carried to IST facility.
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:40 am

It seems to be inevitable that commercial flights between Israel & UAE will eventually start, and these will be partially at the expense of THY's Israel based passenger volume particularly those traveling to the East. On the other hand, there's a very obvious fact that political clashes between Turkey and UAE, due to more than one reason. If and when all these accumulate and the water in the glass spills out (such as limiting diplomatic relations between the two states), what may be the consequences on passenger & cargo flights between Turkey and UAE (particularly Abu Dhabi, Dubai & Sharjah)?

I think TK105 used to have business relations in UAE, he may have the better insight to answer.
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:57 pm

Corendon Airlines will diversify and open a base at Dusseldorf in May 2021, with two based B737s. Also will expand in Switzerland in 2021, with one aircraft to be based in Basel.
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:32 pm

TK's 21st A321neo, TC-LSV, has been delivered. I wonder if it's going to be allocated to LGW as strictly as TC-LSY was when it was first delivered.
 
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Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:18 pm

Some good news. Starting from 19.09 JU will be increasing IST to daily, it will be a new record for the airline.

https://www.exyuaviation.com/2020/09/ai ... tions.html
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:43 pm

HiFly A330 at ADB, why?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:00 am

One of the A332 for TK TC-JIM has been returned to lessor https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2 is this the last ex Jet Airways frame?
 
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Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:51 am

TK773ER wrote:
One of the A332 for TK TC-JIM has been returned to lessor https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2 is this the last ex Jet Airways frame?


These 3 ex-Jet AW frames (ex TC-JIL/TC-JIM/TC-JIN) have been stored at ISL since some time, after their lease period with TK expired. They were all "white painted birds" and were actually stored (for quite some time since last Dec. 2019, this particular ex TC-JIM since Feb. 2020) at the expense of the succeeding lessor (namely: TrueAero Co.) after Jet AW.

planespotters.net still show all three of them stored at ISL (I've already sent them a correction for this recent change). Possibly the ferrying of TC-JIM has been the first...
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:07 am

AirbusA343 wrote:
TK's 21st A321neo, TC-LSV, has been delivered. I wonder if it's going to be allocated to LGW as strictly as TC-LSY was when it was first delivered.

By the way, why do they follow Turkish alphabet standards and not the English ones as mostly all airlines do and skip Q, W and X?
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Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:13 pm

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HiFly A330 at ADB, why?


Not an A330, but the A343 9H-SUN.
Been making ADB - LIS - YUL - ADB for a while now. Transporting medical material.
 
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Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:09 pm

A321Lufthansa wrote:
AirbusA343 wrote:
TK's 21st A321neo, TC-LSV, has been delivered. I wonder if it's going to be allocated to LGW as strictly as TC-LSY was when it was first delivered.

By the way, why do they follow Turkish alphabet standards and not the English ones as mostly all airlines do and skip Q, W and X?


Because those letters don’t exist in the Turkish alphabet. That might be the reason.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:13 am

Now it's TK's turn to boost Belgrade. Starting from 18.09 TK will increase flights from 7 to 9.

https://www.exyuaviation.com/2020/09/tu ... boost.html
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:14 pm

Some hopeful news from me:
-Just bought a ticket for February 2021 on United. No change fees and very cheap J fare on a 767, why not??
-My best friend will be on TK's ORD-IST flight in J. Let's see what updates I can get. Also, his return is on LH, J class. Knowing him, he always prefers the LH J class, see anything different happens this time.
 
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Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:35 pm

Testing will begin on the new metro connection between IST and city with the delivery of the first 10 of 136 planned rail cars for the new line.

The 37.5km line with 9 stations is scheduled to open by August 2021.

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Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:23 am

Whta does one do once he reaches Gayrettepe? Is there another metro connection that can take you to downtown or do you have to take a taxi?

In other news, demand between BEG and IST seems to be booming. After both JU and TK boosted flights now Pegasus is sending (for the first time ever) A321neo to BEG today. They can't add flight because of the bilateral. TK can go up to double daily thanks to political contacts.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:25 am

Blerg wrote:
Whta does one do once he reaches Gayrettepe? Is there another metro connection that can take you to downtown or do you have to take a taxi?


What do you define as "downtown" in Istanbul.

As I recall the area around Gayrettepe is quite dense office(including upscale shopping) and residential area so its not like its some remote part of town.

Anyhow, seems you can make several connections on the metro there if you need to on current and future lines..

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Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:54 am

LAXintl wrote:
Testing will begin on the new metro connection between IST and city with the delivery of the first 10 of 136 planned rail cars for the new line.

The 37.5km line with 9 stations is scheduled to open by August 2021.

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Thats good news will be interesting to see whether its just easier to take the bus as I have the last few times or take the Metro .
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:24 am

Istanbul is a huge city, seriously.
It all depends where you live/stay how this Metro might help you. GAYRETTEPE is pretty central, if you have to you can walk to Taksim Square from there.
For example, my dear friend that is flying to IST from ORD tonight lives literally on top of Gayrettepe Metro stop, he can't be any happier.
Me on the other hand, I might never use it since I need two connections to get home, could be over an hour long trip. Bus on the other hand will be faster for me.
But, this is going to help tens of thousands of people once operational. Even places like Gokturk, a giant neighborhood by other country standards, will enjoy this immensely.
One last note, IIRC, these units are the first locally produced metro cars in Turkey and expected to travel 120kph
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:38 pm

TK787 wrote:
Istanbul is a huge city, seriously.
It all depends where you live/stay how this Metro might help you. GAYRETTEPE is pretty central, if you have to you can walk to Taksim Square from there.
....
One last note, IIRC, these units are the first locally produced metro cars in Turkey and expected to travel 120kph


Well; cannot agree in full with these comments.

1) First of all, that M11 starting station is not located in Gayrettepe. It is located right underneath the Zincirlikuyu Square (a much smaller square than the Taksim Square; actually more to de described as Zincirlikuyu Junction)
2) I wouldn't advise anybody to walk to from this location to the Actual Taksim Square, unless he/she's an athlete of something! :roll:
3) M11's starting station will be integrated to M2 metro line's (one of the backbone metro lines on the European side) "Gayrettepe" station underground (possibly a walking distance of 200-250 mt.) but even this is false naming bcz. the actual location "Esentepe". Gayrettepe is a location further away between the Mecidiyeköy and Esentepe Districts.
4) The metro cars (rolling stock) to be used on this M11 line are of Chinese origin and manufacture. The first cars 10 cars or so (including that particular car in the posted photo...) were manufactured in China and were shipped to Istanbul by ocean freight. Most of the remaining cars will be assembled in Turkey (nearby Ankara) in this Chinese Mfcr's JV plant with another Turkish company. There are no "100% locally designed and manufactured metro cars" in Turkey but there is another JV assembly with the Koreans known as ROTEMs (a JV with Hyundai...).
5) I have some reservations about that photo's event: the underground is not even fully ready to make test runs on rails. In this event only a single car was sent down, there should be at least three more cars to complete a set. No sightings for the other three??? Still trying to find out why this has been done (at the least, there has been no official ceremony) and dig out if the said event was kind of a show or not!
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:51 pm

As I understand it, the track between Göktürk and Kağıthane is ready and is where the new cars are being used to test.
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:28 pm

mafaky wrote:
Well; cannot agree in full with these comments.


Thanks for the correct info "mafaky".
I guess, being a NY'er it is not that much for me to walk that distance. Walked it many times. From Gayrettepe to Taksim is around 5km, that is around 7000 steps. Not to brag about it but, I walked 23,000 steps yesterday. With a rolling carry-on, it could be an option, rather than taking the very crowded metro or trying to get a cab in that heavy traffic area. But most pax with luggage, if they try to transfer within the metro system in Istanbul, they would not like the experience. It is not built for pax with luggage.
Also, thanks for the info on the metro cars.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:58 pm

LAXintl wrote:
As I understand it, the track between Göktürk and Kağıthane is ready and is where the new cars are being used to test.


First to note: The shaft where they brought down that single car is not between Göktürk & Kâğıthane. It's between Göktürk and İhsaniye, i.e. towards the Airport. It's more nearer to Göktürk station. Second: the aerial power line (energy line) is still not installed. I'm still trying to dig out what the hell they will be doing with a single car underground, but w/o success (so far). I went as far as to ask the General Manager of Istanbul Metro as a consultant/adviser (although this M11 metro line and its construction is not in their responsibility) with the wishful thinking that he may care to answer. :oops: :?:
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:02 pm

TK787 wrote:
But most pax with luggage, if they try to transfer within the metro system in Istanbul, they would not like the experience. It is not built for pax with luggage.
Also, thanks for the info on the metro cars.


It was clearly mentioned that the cars for this metro line will have special racks for pax luggage stowage. Which is very senseful. There is a rather short video shot on this occasion, showing the interior of the car being lowered down: I couldn't spot such luggage racks. I hope my old eyes have not been sharp enough!!! :roll:
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:34 pm

mafaky wrote:

It was clearly mentioned that the cars for this metro line will have special racks for pax luggage stowage. Which is very senseful.

That is awesome for some people if in fact is true, like my friend living at Gayrettepe. But transferring with luggage to other metro lines that does not have space for luggage, is another story.
Whatever the case, I am still happy that this is finally happening.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:05 am

Pegasus increases capacity on SAW-BEG to A321neo. Increased capacity has already been loaded into their system. First A321 flight was operated yesterday.

Seems like tourism from both sides is back as there are no sanitary or visa restrictions between Serbia and Turkey.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:25 am

As promised, here is a short trip report from my friend's ORD-IST TK Business Class flight on 787-9:
No lounge access at ORD he says, even though AF/KL lounge was open, TK pax didn't have one.
And even though there are announcements about face masks, there were no enforcement and some people took their masks off the entire flight. This was his first trip on the TK 787-9 "J" and he feels that even though it is great for social distancing, it is too dark and the seats are not comfortable. As reported earlier on other posts, "food service" consists of a cold wrap and meze tray with a small bottle of wine, no hot drinks and he had to leave his seat, go and ask for water.
Similar situation on the ground at IST, no social distancing and no enforcement, many masks covering only the chins.
During his IST-BJV flight he was seated at a full row on a 320, but there were ample empty seats on the plane but he was denied to change seats due to COVID rules.
On the plus side, on the HAVAS bus from BJV airport to Bodrum central, the driver was enforcing the mask rule inside the bus.

Let's see what he will say about his return leg in a couple weeks on LH "J".
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:01 pm

Good news from ex CEO of TK Temel Kotil, he is out of the ICU and doing better.
 
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:24 am

TK has sent one of the 787 TC-LLO to Victorville, California i wonder if TK will store 787's in place and take on the 5 A350 this year instead.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... dit#gid=19
 
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:33 am

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TK has sent one of the 787 TC-LLO to Victorville, California i wonder if TK will store 787's in place and take on the 5 A350 this year instead.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... dit#gid=19


That is incorrect. It was originally scheduled to fly in today, but they swapped it and Vistara 789 N1003N flew in instead. Likely will fly in tomorrow though.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:17 am

LAXintl wrote:
Testing will begin on the new metro connection between IST and city with the delivery of the first 10 of 136 planned rail cars for the new line.

The 37.5km line with 9 stations is scheduled to open by August 2021.

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Thank you for sharing the map, and thanks Mafaky for the clarifications,

Do you know where the station will terminate at the airport? a few months ago where there was some news saying it will not be directly underneath the terminal but a few hundred meters from the terminal.

I could not upload the picture but there is a plan of Gayrettepe/Esentepe/Zincirlikuyu station here. For daily trips Zorlu or Gayrettepe underground car park would be a good place to park your car and go to the airport. ( edit - I just saw it now after I posted, Mafaky also commented at wowturkey link I just gave, the post is about two years old and has more info about the properties of the station)

http://wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6758844
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:14 am

I was also trying to understand why TK 787s are sitting at KPAE.
Is is something to do with the new faults discovered on 787s, are they not ready to be delivered after months??
But if they are ready, why are they not being stored at a suitable place until they are ready to be taken by TK?
Same situation with the MAXs at Istanbul, they should have been moved/stored long time ago to some other location inside Turkey or close by, don't you think?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:17 pm

August results for TK:
-PAX down from 7.4M last year to 2.6M this year
-CARGO down 11%
-Average Load Factor for the month 67.6%
(My friend's ORD-IST flight load factor was 80% Y, 50%J)
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:56 am

ACT has leased both TC-ACF & ACG to TK following completion of its Saudia contract on August 31st.

TK 747 cargo fleet continues to grow.
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:54 am

Pegasus is starting SAW-Karachi 25 Sept. 3 x weekly.
 
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:47 pm

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Pegasus is starting SAW-Karachi 25 Sept. 3 x weekly.

By the way, will this be Pegasus' longest flight?? Thanks.
 
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:56 pm

TK787 wrote:
TK787 wrote:
Pegasus is starting SAW-Karachi 25 Sept. 3 x weekly.

By the way, will this be Pegasus' longest flight?? Thanks.


With a block time of 5hrs 20 then it could possibly be even if its only by 5-10 mins compared to others. 5hrs 50 on return.
 
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:28 pm

OA260 wrote:
TK787 wrote:
TK787 wrote:
Pegasus is starting SAW-Karachi 25 Sept. 3 x weekly.

By the way, will this be Pegasus' longest flight?? Thanks.


With a block time of 5hrs 20 then it could possibly be even if its only by 5-10 mins compared to others. 5hrs 50 on return.

Thanks. Maybe Pegasus will send the 321s there.
TK is sending 77Ws to Pakistan these days and I saw that PIA will be flying 3 x Daily to IST and signed an agreement with TK for some kind of a codeshare to take PIA pax around the world.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:51 pm

TC-JOG, a TK A333, has finally lost its Year of Troy livery.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation September 2020

Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:57 pm

Had a few minutes to check how airlines doing as of now.
Looking at flightradar24, here are the airlines and number of their jets in the air 5:55pm UTC: (Pax/Cargo Mix)
BA 49
LH 53
TK 109
AF 70
KL 35
QR 111

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