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AVLAirlineFreq wrote:Interesting. So outside of EWR and SFB, is SAV now the biggest airport in the lower 48 states not served by WN?
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:Interesting. So outside of EWR and SFB, is SAV now the biggest airport in the lower 48 states not served by WN?
STT757 wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:Interesting. So outside of EWR and SFB, is SAV now the biggest airport in the lower 48 states not served by WN?
STT757 wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:Interesting. So outside of EWR and SFB, is SAV now the biggest airport in the lower 48 states not served by WN?
IAH, DFW, JFK.
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:STT757 wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:Interesting. So outside of EWR and SFB, is SAV now the biggest airport in the lower 48 states not served by WN?
IAH, DFW, JFK.
D'oh! Thanks. Brain cramp.
doug wrote:Ok I think Miami will add BWI,MDW,ATL and DAL for starters
enilria wrote:doug wrote:Ok I think Miami will add BWI,MDW,ATL and DAL for starters
I wonder if this is more like B6 moving LGB to LAX, but with FLL? Not that they would leave FLL, but perhaps this is more than it appears.
enilria wrote:doug wrote:Ok I think Miami will add BWI,MDW,ATL and DAL for starters
I wonder if this is more like B6 moving LGB to LAX, but with FLL? Not that they would leave FLL, but perhaps this is more than it appears.
enilria wrote:doug wrote:Ok I think Miami will add BWI,MDW,ATL and DAL for starters
I wonder if this is more like B6 moving LGB to LAX, but with FLL? Not that they would leave FLL, but perhaps this is more than it appears.
STT757 wrote:STT757 wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:Interesting. So outside of EWR and SFB, is SAV now the biggest airport in the lower 48 states not served by WN?
Greensboro, Myrtle Beach, Allentown, Scranton, Harrisburg.
737max8 wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:STT757 wrote:
IAH, DFW, JFK.
D'oh! Thanks. Brain cramp.
FAT? gotta be bigger than SAV....i hope
MavyWavyATR wrote:Why would WN open a MIA station if they already have a good sized operation nearby at FLL?
tphuang wrote:This + all the cuts to FLL seem to indicate WN has given up on FLL at their Latam gateway.
FSDan wrote:enilria wrote:doug wrote:Ok I think Miami will add BWI,MDW,ATL and DAL for starters
I wonder if this is more like B6 moving LGB to LAX, but with FLL? Not that they would leave FLL, but perhaps this is more than it appears.
Yeah, I'll be interested to see the way they split service between MIA and FLL. Perhaps MIA is a commonly requested destination from the airports where they're large enough to get a decent volume of local business traffic (HOU, STL, MDW, BNA, BWI, etc.)?
FSDan wrote:enilria wrote:doug wrote:Ok I think Miami will add BWI,MDW,ATL and DAL for starters
I wonder if this is more like B6 moving LGB to LAX, but with FLL? Not that they would leave FLL, but perhaps this is more than it appears.
Yeah, I'll be interested to see the way they split service between MIA and FLL. Perhaps MIA is a commonly requested destination from the airports where they're large enough to get a decent volume of local business traffic (HOU, STL, MDW, BNA, BWI, etc.)? I could see those types of destinations sustaining service to both MIA and FLL on WN, but for smaller stations if they're going to be starting MIA service, it might mean cutting FLL service.
DaCubbyBearBar wrote:enilria wrote:doug wrote:Ok I think Miami will add BWI,MDW,ATL and DAL for starters
I wonder if this is more like B6 moving LGB to LAX, but with FLL? Not that they would leave FLL, but perhaps this is more than it appears.
WN just built that terminal extension in FLL. I can't see that they would be giving up on that already. I think this is kind of like the LA Basin, just covering all the bases. Now they have PBI, FLL and MIA.
joeblow10 wrote:OAK and DEN seem the most obvious adds for PSP. You can literally throw almost endless capacity on SFO-PSP it seems, OAK probably not much different. Maybe a LAS or PHX for connections, but DEN should already have that covered.
enilria wrote:DaCubbyBearBar wrote:enilria wrote:I wonder if this is more like B6 moving LGB to LAX, but with FLL? Not that they would leave FLL, but perhaps this is more than it appears.
WN just built that terminal extension in FLL. I can't see that they would be giving up on that already. I think this is kind of like the LA Basin, just covering all the bases. Now they have PBI, FLL and MIA.
Then why aren’t they in ORD?
enilria wrote:Then why aren’t they in ORD?
STT757 wrote:STT757 wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:Interesting. So outside of EWR and SFB, is SAV now the biggest airport in the lower 48 states not served by WN?
Greensboro, Myrtle Beach, Allentown, Scranton, Harrisburg.
joeblow10 wrote:OAK and DEN seem the most obvious adds for PSP. You can literally throw almost endless capacity on SFO-PSP it seems, OAK probably not much different. Maybe a LAS or PHX for connections, but DEN should already have that covered.
MAH4546 wrote:For Miami, outside of obvious - Dallas Love, Chicago Midway and Baltimore - I also expect Havana.
joeblow10 wrote:OAK and DEN seem the most obvious adds for PSP. You can literally throw almost endless capacity on SFO-PSP it seems, OAK probably not much different. Maybe a LAS or PHX for connections, but DEN should already have that covered.
usdcaguy wrote:MAH4546 wrote:For Miami, outside of obvious - Dallas Love, Chicago Midway and Baltimore - I also expect Havana.
I see them dropping FLL-HAV and starting MIA-HAV to pick up local traffic, if they decide to start it. I'd be curious to see which cities they will be serving out of MIA nonstop. My bets are on ATL/HOU/MDW/LGA/STL, though not all 5. I don't see the advantage of trying to compete with AA on DAL-MIA. Seems like AA would do all they could to dump capacity in the market. By offering LGA-MIA, however, WN could pick up more NYC traffic and increase the loyalty of local flyers, though the market has always been competitive. Not sure about HOU-MIA, as it's not a huge market and UA/AA seem to have it wrapped up.
flyfresno wrote:joeblow10 wrote:OAK and DEN seem the most obvious adds for PSP. You can literally throw almost endless capacity on SFO-PSP it seems, OAK probably not much different. Maybe a LAS or PHX for connections, but DEN should already have that covered.
SEA and/or PDX might also be good.
flyfresno wrote:737max8 wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
D'oh! Thanks. Brain cramp.
FAT? gotta be bigger than SAV....i hope
Definitely FAT.
MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:Assuming the Latin American gateway is done, I would not be shocked if FLL is trimmed to just ATL/BNA/BWI/HOU/DAL and maybe SJU a year or two from now. No need to fly MDW year-round either, that flying can be shifted to MIA. DEN/LAS/PHX can also be shifted to MIA. ISP is a bit of a niche route so if Long Island isn't dropped outright from the WN network I'd expect FLL/PBI-ISP to stay. Same for PVD and BDL. Maybe just fly east of the Mississippi from FLL. Anything west can be shifted to MIA long-term.
Corpsnerd09 wrote:Anyone wonder how this will affect DL's attempts to grow MIA with the LA deal? Now with more competition it'll be harder to capture the local traffic between AA's name recognition, F9s cheap fares and WN's popularity already in the metro area and niche market. Sounds like DL may have a tougher time than first imagined a year ago.