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FlyingHonu001
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LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:20 am

With the ongoing pandamic still lingering and the ever increasing call to reduce pollution, Lelystad Airport in the Netherlanddstill hasnt opened for commercial passenger aviation. Research has recently shown it has cost about 214 million EUR for its upgrades/ constructions. Significant investments it seems.

So my question is now, what will it take to actually open LEY for commercial traffic?
For example, would it make sense to make it into a base for KLC Cityhopper? Or if AMS were to close one to two concourses dedicated for Schengen flights, could LEY handle the overflow?

Let me know your thoughts if it is possible we can see
airlines coming to LEY any time soon... :airplane:
 
airbuster
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:28 am

KLC won’t go to LEY as it is need for KLMs business model. At the moment it is the backbone of KLs European network. The idea behind LEY was to take a load off AMS by moving some LCC there. Now as we won’t come near to the AMS movement cap anytime soon due to all the recent changes I personally don’t see the need for yet another airport as LEY.
 
Eikie
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:32 am

Cityhopper moving to Lelystad does not make sense as most of their business is delivering and taking passengers to/from KLM.
The supposed plan for the airport was to move the holyday flights from EHAM when EHAM was at the maximum number of flights, so there is not really a reason for Lelystad to exist anymore (for that purpose).

They will go ahead with the plans, but I'd be surprised if there will be flights departing from there soon.
 
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:35 am

Having Cityhopper at LEY wouldn't make any sense. Cityhopper mainly operates feeder routes to/from AMS for onwards connections on the KLM/Skyteam network. If transfer passengers should travel between LEY and AMS for connections, AMS would lose it's importance.
LEY make sense for airlines such as EasyJet, TUI Corendon and SunExpress. Airlines that mainly or exclusively offer P2P flights
 
LJ
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:17 am

FlyingHonu001 wrote:
With the ongoing pandamic still lingering and the ever increasing call to reduce pollution, Lelystad Airport in the Netherlanddstill hasnt opened for commercial passenger aviation. Research has recently shown it has cost about 214 million EUR for its upgrades/ constructions. Significant investments it seems.

So my question is now, what will it take to actually open LEY for commercial traffic?


An operating license to handle commercial aviation.
 
FlyingHonu001
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:01 pm

Obviously, moving KLC to LEY is not an option because of their role as feeder for KL's intercontinental flights.

So its safe to say that AMS should really focus more on being a connecting hub? Then indeed LEY would make sense as an effective secondary airport
Passenger figures are also rising again, maybe slower than usual but still rising.
 
factsonly
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:25 pm

LJ wrote:

An operating license to handle commercial aviation.


Which will not be granted any time soon, as there is no majority in the Netherlands Parliament to do so.
 
SCQ83
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:22 pm

LEY would make sense to move AMS Transavia operations.

Most Transavia routes at AMS are also flown by KLM. So now there is AMS-BCN on both KLM and Transavia. With LEY open, KLM could keep AMS-BCN (the core, connecting route), and Transavia could move to LEY-BCN.
 
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:48 pm

Why would AFKL as a parent company want Transavia to move routes from AMS to Lelystad ? I imagine there will be some people who self-connect between Transavia and other LCCs (Easyjet in particular, from the UK) at AMS. It won't show up in any Govt statistics, but as a sizeable LCC, I imagine it happens. Move Transavia to Lelystad, and that connection possibility is destroyed and Transavia loses revenue

The likes of TUI who focus much more on selling hotel+flight+transfer+meals and aren't really so interested in flight-only pax would be a better candidate to move to Lelystad

Perhaps in a few years, when traffic at AMS has returned to 2019 levels, AFKL might decide that connections between KL and Transavia should happen because they find KL can no longer compete on cost to some of the smaller leisure-centric airports (eg Catania) in the Mediterranean which are not widely served across northern Europe and for which passengers might consider connecting in AMS ?
 
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Re: LEY ready for business?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:17 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
LEY would make sense to move AMS Transavia operations.

Most Transavia routes at AMS are also flown by KLM. So now there is AMS-BCN on both KLM and Transavia. With LEY open, KLM could keep AMS-BCN (the core, connecting route), and Transavia could move to LEY-BCN.


A lot of connecting traffic is sold as KL flights by KL on HV metal. To move HV to LEY would make no sense as they have many connecting flights. Send the point to point flights as mentioned before.

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