KarlB737 wrote:Courtesy: Aviation Pros
Southwest Airlines Wants Workers to Take 10% Pay Cuts or Face Furloughs in 2021
How about Gary Kelly and the entire "management" take a 100% pay cut. I doubt at their pay rate that they would go hungry.
mercure1 wrote:China's air traffic seems to have rebounded.
September domestic passenger numbers reached 47.75 million, or 98% of 2019.
https://www.reuters.com/article/china-a ... SL4N2H60Z7
jayunited wrote:In the COVID reference thread someone posted the findings of the United Airlines and Department of Defense but they said they saw a story on GMA and posted a link to youtube. It was noted in their post on the reference thread that the test did not take into account people removing their mask to eat and drink.
That is 100% false,below is the link to the full unedited report put out by the DOD, and not the doctored story shown on Good Morning America. If people take the time read the report they will see on page 15, 16and 19 people will see the test were conducted under both conditions, meaning mask on and mask off.
jayunited wrote:Please read or at the very least look over the entire report and do not just take the condense version the new media may attempt to portray as factual.
Enough damage has been done to this industry based on theories put out by so-called experts in the media.
DIRECTFLT wrote:TheSpaceCadet wrote:Live Testing, Passenger Data and Simulation Show Low Risk of In-flight COVID-19 Transmission:
https://www.aviationtoday.com/2020/10/0 ... nsmission/
NB: "Among the 1.2 billion passengers that have traveled with commercial airlines since the beginning of 2020, there have been 44 cases of COVID-19 reported where transmission occurred in-flight ..."
>>> The above figures equate to ~ 0.00000004 %
GMA did a report on this today:
A landmark study from the Department of Defense and United Airlines conducted 300 tests in over six months with dummies in-flight to examine the possible spread of droplets.
What the study didn't seem to factor in was people removing their masks on a flight to drink and to eat. I'm assuming people still get to eat and drink on flights...
mercure1 wrote:Starting from October 26th, passengers departing from the two main Paris airports - Roissy-CDG and Orly - will be required to take a rapid antigen test on departure.
This seems a slightly odd strategy. Let us suppose that a person is resident in (for example) China, holds a Chinese passport and tests positive. Would the passenger be required to stay in France instead of being able to return to their home country ? Even if they are near visa expiry date ? Would France really want that person to remain on their territory and thus become France's problem to care for in hospital ? Personally I would be very nervous about booking a flight from Paris to my home country, if this potentially means I can't get back home, but I wonder if AF or ADP who own CDG + ORY have made comment on this
FlyingElvii wrote:Still far below the 2016 number of 2.6 million on this day last year, only 38%, but a milestone, nonetheless.
October Breaks overlapping On a Sunday. Any word out there of anecdotal load factors???
max999 wrote:So the purpose of the tests are to help restore confidence in flying again. But the airlines and airports are making the passengers pay 80 pounds for the tests. The airlines are basically asking passengers to pay to help boost their business. I think it should be the other way around, where the airlines pay for the tests so passengers feel safe to fly again.
Setjet wrote:max999 wrote:So the purpose of the tests are to help restore confidence in flying again. But the airlines and airports are making the passengers pay 80 pounds for the tests. The airlines are basically asking passengers to pay to help boost their business. I think it should be the other way around, where the airlines pay for the tests so passengers feel safe to fly again.
What you expect does not make too much sense: You want the airline to pay for the test? Under the current conditions where almost all airlines are close to bankruptcy, or are receiving state support in the billions to survive?
Of course you can expect whatever you want, in the end you will pay the 80 Pounds anyway, added to your ticket, or separately!
Passengers receive their results within 10 to 15 minutes by SMS or, if they wish, upon request. "The boarding pass is only activated and access to the security area and gate is granted if the result is negative," Austrian Airlines explains in a message. If the test result is positive, the passenger will be looked after by the airport's medical team for a comprehensive clarification. According to Austrian Airlines, he can then rebook or cancel his flight free of charge.
Capricorn wrote:VIE now with quick test trial as well. It is free of charge and voluntary, which I think is a very good implementation of this undertaking.Passengers receive their results within 10 to 15 minutes by SMS or, if they wish, upon request. "The boarding pass is only activated and access to the security area and gate is granted if the result is negative," Austrian Airlines explains in a message. If the test result is positive, the passenger will be looked after by the airport's medical team for a comprehensive clarification. According to Austrian Airlines, he can then rebook or cancel his flight free of charge.
This is acceptable as an outbound passenger (for me at least), but on the return journey that really is dangerous as it might prevent a swift return. Thusly the possibility exists of being "trapped" at the destination, for up to a fortnight. This leads to added cost and much worse possible absence from work (since there is no guarantee that prospective quarantine location has stable internet access necessary for remote work). I don't think that quick tests are the solution for easy travel in C19 times, though it might enable certain VFR travel and essential business travel, so I guess it is better than noting. But for leisure travel that certainly is a killer for many ppl.
https://www.aerotelegraph.com/bei-posit ... e-gesperrt
aircatalonia wrote:I don't understand these travel restrictions. Isn't covid prevalence roughly the same everywhere? Sometimes USA has more cases, sometimes Spain, sometimes Belgium... Or is it because they don't want sick people on the plane itself? I travel on packed subway trains twice a day and nobody does COVID tests there.
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