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thebigz
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ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:40 am

According to Flightradar24 (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/et714) (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/et715) Ethiopian used a B738 instead of the ordinary Dreamliner or 777 on the ADD-ARN-OSL-ARN-ADD route this weekend.

The flying time was a whopping 7:30 on the way to Stockholm and 7:29 on the way back. They did not stop for fuel so I guess the load must have been very low.

If I am not mistaken this would make it one of the longest scheculed B738 route ever with standard config (Not ferry/BBJ). The distance according to GCMAP is 3108 nm to compare with 3283 nm BSB-MCO flown by GOL and 3132 nautical miles FOR-MCO.

A long time ago ET regularly did come to ARN with the B738 but then the flight to/from ADD included a fuel stop in CAI.

But incredible that they operate it nonstop!
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:43 am

thebigz wrote:
If I am not mistaken this would make it one of the longest scheculed B738 route ever with standard config...


Can one really call it scheduled when it's an aircraft sub?
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:10 am

thebigz wrote:
The distance according to GCMAP is 3108 nm to compare with 3283 nm BSB-MCO flown by GOL and 3132 nautical miles FOR-MCO.


Please keep in mind that both o these flights were nonstop when operated by the B737 MAX 8.
When operated by the B737-800, there was a fuel stop in Punta Cana.
I wonder when people will understand:
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:36 pm

thebigz wrote:
The flying time was a whopping 7:30 on the way to Stockholm and 7:29 on the way back. They did not stop for fuel so I guess the load must have been very low.


Given the facts of ADD airport (elevation 2,334 m / 7,625 ft, weather etc.), I think it's a glitch/error... If you re-play the flight, a message will pop-up, that "part of this flight track was out our coverage" -which perfectly happens around Luxor, a perfect refuelling stop!
DY and X3 used to fly B738 from OSL, respectively HAM, to Dubai - and even with 1/3 capacity blocked, they needed many times a fuel stop on the return....
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:43 pm

I can't remember when they changed but ET operated a 737-800 with a fuel stop for many years on between ADD and ARN. It was eventually up-gauged to 787 and the tag on to OSL was added.
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:26 pm

I’ve done over 8hrs with a healthy load on a 738. And that was East to West too, into headwinds. Airtime far out stretched ground distance covered because of the headwinds. And it included holding. The domino’s need to work with you but it can go far. North-south here like ET will work in your favor too.
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:54 pm

Although using the regular flight-nr, Ethiopian’s ET-AQO (which was deployed to Stockholm in this case) has often been used by the Ethiopian government for flights. So, this particular plane has the tendency to pop-up at strange airports once in a while.
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:21 pm

debonair wrote:
thebigz wrote:
The flying time was a whopping 7:30 on the way to Stockholm and 7:29 on the way back. They did not stop for fuel so I guess the load must have been very low.


Given the facts of ADD airport (elevation 2,334 m / 7,625 ft, weather etc.), I think it's a glitch/error... If you re-play the flight, a message will pop-up, that "part of this flight track was out our coverage" -which perfectly happens around Luxor, a perfect refuelling stop!
DY and X3 used to fly B738 from OSL, respectively HAM, to Dubai - and even with 1/3 capacity blocked, they needed many times a fuel stop on the return....


It definitely didn’t land in Luxor or anywhere else along the way (or you’ll have to explain how it did it in 25 minutes).
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:31 pm

Stellar performance by the Apollo-era Boeing 737-800!
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:21 pm

As this flight frequently flies above my town (Kaunas, Lithuania), I have been tracking it for more than a decade. and I can assure You that during the last maybe twelve years, I have seen 738s at least 30 times. I can list the registrations of the 738s which have done that before (mostly, from 2010 to 2015, after which they switched to 788/789 for 95 percent of the time). So, this route has been flown by (at least):
ET-ANZ
ET-AOA
AT-AOB
ET-APF
ET-APK
ET-APL
ET-APM
ET-APO
ET-AQM
Overall, this flight has featured about 10 types in the last 10 years; this could even be the world record.

was edited for clarity
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:46 pm

debonair wrote:
thebigz wrote:
The flying time was a whopping 7:30 on the way to Stockholm and 7:29 on the way back. They did not stop for fuel so I guess the load must have been very low.


Given the facts of ADD airport (elevation 2,334 m / 7,625 ft, weather etc.), I think it's a glitch/error... If you re-play the flight, a message will pop-up, that "part of this flight track was out our coverage" -which perfectly happens around Luxor, a perfect refuelling stop!
DY and X3 used to fly B738 from OSL, respectively HAM, to Dubai - and even with 1/3 capacity blocked, they needed many times a fuel stop on the return....


The tracking is accurate, it flew nonstop to ARN. Looking through other operations using the B788, the elapsed time nonstop to ARN is consistent.

Where ET needs a fuel stop, CAI is almost always the chosen intermediate point. We have seen it on the 738s to MAD, and sometimes to DME. It is worth noting that ET regularly operated the 738 to DME when it was nonstop.
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:21 am

debonair wrote:
thebigz wrote:
The flying time was a whopping 7:30 on the way to Stockholm and 7:29 on the way back. They did not stop for fuel so I guess the load must have been very low.


Given the facts of ADD airport (elevation 2,334 m / 7,625 ft, weather etc.), I think it's a glitch/error... If you re-play the flight, a message will pop-up, that "part of this flight track was out our coverage" -which perfectly happens around Luxor, a perfect refuelling stop!
DY and X3 used to fly B738 from OSL, respectively HAM, to Dubai - and even with 1/3 capacity blocked, they needed many times a fuel stop on the return....


Shouldn't the flight time ADD-ARN been longer that 7:30 if they added a fuel stop enroute?

BTW DY used to block about 1/6 of the seats on DXB-OSL ;)
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:04 pm

Look who's here today.
73G ET-ARD
https://www.flightradar24.com/ETH715/25f756d6
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:20 pm

ZKCIF wrote:
Look who's here today.
73G ET-ARD
https://www.flightradar24.com/ETH715/25f756d6


What is the business class like on their 737? I flew the 788 and 789 from ARN before and it was decent. I’m guessing it’s not a flat bed.
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:31 pm

From
https://milelion.com/2018/01/25/milelio ... ss-review/
I am quoting:
It’s not winning any marks for luxury, but the product on offer was good enough for a short 2 hour hop. Quality airlines are in scarce supply in Africa, and it says quite a bit that Ethiopian proudly trumpets the fact that it’s a Skytrax Four Star airline. If you need to connect within Africa, this is probably as good as it gets.
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:56 pm

thebigz wrote:
The flying time was a whopping 7:30 on the way to Stockholm and 7:29 on the way back. They did not stop for fuel so I guess the load must have been very low.


I don't wanna start a new topic - so please excuse!

KENYA AIRWAYS just flew B738 5Y-CYA from NBO to FCO in 07:26hrs - pretty close to the ET flight time...

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/kq7500
 
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Re: ET using B738(!) ARN-ADD

Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:01 pm

debonair wrote:
thebigz wrote:
The flying time was a whopping 7:30 on the way to Stockholm and 7:29 on the way back. They did not stop for fuel so I guess the load must have been very low.


I don't wanna start a new topic - so please excuse!

KENYA AIRWAYS just flew B738 5Y-CYA from NBO to FCO in 07:26hrs - pretty close to the ET flight time...

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/kq7500


That's how they initially started services to FCO. And then they stopped. And then they did again with their 788s.

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