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Re: UPS fleet

Sun May 30, 2021 1:08 pm

At May 28th the two latest produced UPS 747-8F's had a private meeting :roll: in Portland (KPDX)

N627UP and the unpainted, pre-delivery N628UP (in the back), both in Portland, May 28th 2021
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Original uploaded by Keith Miller at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/KeithPDXAir/status/ ... 0586449925
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Mon May 31, 2021 1:23 am

xjet wrote:
Max Q wrote:
747classic wrote:

N391UP has been flown from Cologne (via SDF) to ILN at May02/03, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N39 ... /KSDF/KILN

According UPS 767/757 Capt Ken Hoke the entire fleet has now been upgraded (all 767-300F and also the 757-200F's ?) with the Large Display System (LDS), see remarks by the tweet below.

N351UP, NRT, May 19th 2021
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Original uploaded by Ken Hoke at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/AeroSavvy/status/13 ... 1854763009



Nice modification and new set up, looks like the fuel quantity indication panel on the overhead has been replaced as well ?


I am surprised the MCP appears to be unaltered from the original, our late model 757’s and all 767’s had the digital numbers that are easier to set, for some reason the original MCP numbers would ‘bounce around’ when you went to change them


The fuel indication panel is unchanged. Same for the MCP. They are gradually replacing the older bouncy indicators, but only when they fail. It is nicer to be able to see the MCP inputs on the screens and not rely on the MCP indications.



Thanks for the information, the fuel panel, like the rest of the cockpit just looks so immaculate compared to ours that I wondered if it had been replaced, we had an issue with ours where part of the digital number display would get distorted and / or obscured


Agree with you that you should not rely on the MCP numbers but always the FMA indications, those ‘bouncing numbers’ were annoying though !
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Mon May 31, 2021 1:27 am

747classic wrote:
At May 28th the two latest produced UPS 747-8F's had a private meeting :roll: in Portland (KPDX)

N627UP and the unpainted, pre-delivery N628UP (in the back), both in Portland, May 28th 2021
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Original uploaded by Keith Miller at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/KeithPDXAir/status/ ... 0586449925



Beautiful aircraft


Good to see new 747’s still going into service even though the production line is coming to an end


I really like this UPS livery as well, understated, but original, elegant and not boring like most US airlines
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Mon May 31, 2021 8:19 am

N628UP, Portland (KPDX), May 28th 2021, waiting to go into the paint hangar.

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Re: UPS fleet

Mon May 31, 2021 9:19 am

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wjcandee wrote:
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AFAIK N391UP is stationed at Cologne (CGN) from 29 Nov 2019, with last flight Helsinki (HEL) -Cologne (CGN) at April 16th 2021 , see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N39 ... /EFHK/EDDK


I think that was just a typo; I think he meant that 361UP was the last one to get the upgrade, and it was.


It actually is 391 that remains the be converted. I just misread some information. It will go through conversion this month, but is indeed still in Europe flying. Not sure when they are bringing it over.

I’m wasn’t aware of a firm policy of the CAM aircraft being restricted to Europe, but the JAL planes are. This is due to the lower doors not being able to accept the containers.


N391UP, the last 767-300F to receive the LDS conversion, seems to be ready for action again, she was ferried ILN-SDF at May 29th 2021
See : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N39 ... /KILN/KSDF
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:17 pm

The next addition for the UPS MD11 fleet, N265UP (ex D-ALCK), performed her first test flight after HMV completion out of San Antonio (SAT) at June 29th 2021, see :
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26 ... /KSAT/KSAT

Sadly, the last three Lufthansa Cargo MD11 aircraft are not purchased by UPS, but the first (D-ALCA) is now purchased by Western Global. The two others (D-ALCC and D-ALCD) are also rumoured to go to the same company.
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:06 pm

N265UP filed a flightplan for San Antonio (SAT) towards Grissom Aeroplex Peru, Indiana (GUS) at June 30th (for paint at the Indiana Dean Baldwin facility), however the flight diverted to San Antonio (due technical issues ?)
See : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26 ... /KSAT/KGUS
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:21 am

After a second attempt at July 03th , with callsign 5X9573, N265UP was finally ferried to Grissom Aeroplex Peru, Indiana (GUS) with callsign 5X9581 at July 6th.
See : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS ... /KSAT/KGUS
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:10 am

The 23th UPS 747-8F, N628UP at Louisville (SDF), the day after the delivery flight from Everett, July 9th 2021
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Re: UPS fleet

Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:25 am

MD11F N265UP has been painted at Grissom Aeroplex Peru, Indiana (GUS) and was ferried to Louisville (SDF) with callsign 5X9599 at July 20th 2021, see :
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26 ... /KGUS/KSDF

No picture yet of N265UP in full UPS livery.
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:05 am

747classic wrote:
MD11F N265UP has been painted at Grissom Aeroplex Peru, Indiana (GUS) and was ferried to Louisville (SDF) with callsign 5X9599 at July 20th 2021, see :
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26 ... /KGUS/KSDF

No picture yet of N265UP in full UPS livery.


UPS just posted a picture of N265UP on Instagram a short time ago. It's the only one they have posted yet.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRpVf4FF0xO/?utm_medium=copy_link
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:44 pm

For those who don't have Instagram. Same picture that UPS posted yesterday.

https://twitter.com/UPSAirlines/status/1418549067366506502?s=19
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:28 pm

dcs921 wrote:
For those who don't have Instagram. Same picture that UPS posted yesterday.

https://twitter.com/UPSAirlines/status/1418549067366506502?s=19

Thx, I also just noticed the latest post by UPS Airlines at twitter

N265UP, SDF, July 21th 2021
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Re: UPS fleet

Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:06 pm

Forgive me for asking, as it relates to the MD-11F fleet with the latest deliveries, what is the breakdown in numbers of GE powered aircraft vs PW? Has one over the other distinguished itself as the better freighter?
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:51 am

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Forgive me for asking, as it relates to the MD-11F fleet with the latest deliveries, what is the breakdown in numbers of GE powered aircraft vs PW? Has one over the other distinguished itself as the better freighter?



250-265 are GE powered. 270-296 (minus 277 of course) are PW powered. Each have their pluses and minuses. CF6s tend to shake more and, but in practice they are effectively identical.
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:53 am

I noticed that on our 767-224 and -424’s, the GE engine was ‘buzzy’ in certain power settings significantly more than others


The RR engine on our 757’s was much much smoother


Noticed that as a passenger riding on BA’s 777, a lot more vibration with the GE 90 whereas the RR aircraft are extremely smooth

Having said that, I never had an issue with either one, both engines were very responsive and reliable and the GE’s incredibly quick start time never ceased to amaze

Almost like starting your car
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:42 am

747classic wrote:
dcs921 wrote:
For those who don't have Instagram. Same picture that UPS posted yesterday.

https://twitter.com/UPSAirlines/status/1418549067366506502?s=19

Thx, I also just noticed the latest post by UPS Airlines at twitter

N265UP, SDF, July 21th 2021
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I was disappointed UPS didn’t take the last few LH MD-11’s Western Global has them. They fly some just painted white. Come on how much do some painted letters cost. Fed Ex took some and it was thought for spare parts but they are being activated. I guess UPS had their fill of MD-11’s
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:35 am

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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:37 am

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I was disappointed UPS didn’t take the last few LH MD-11’s Western Global has them. They fly some just painted white. Come on how much do some painted letters cost.


Some are white because the customer prefers it that way (or at least is perceived to prefer it that way). Some ACMI and in some cases military.
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:09 am

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Forgive me for asking, as it relates to the MD-11F fleet with the latest deliveries, what is the breakdown in numbers of GE powered aircraft vs PW? Has one over the other distinguished itself as the better freighter?


When UPS started with the MD11/PW4000 operation in 2002 , the PW4000 had a lot of stall issues and an expensive program (ring case modification) started to solve these issues.
For background info, see : https://www.federalregister.gov/documen ... an-engines
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:37 pm

The last of the five ex Lufthansa MD11F ( ships 261-265), purchased by UPS, performed her first revenue flight to Windsor Locks
N265UP, July 29th 2021, SDF-BDL-SDF, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26 ... /KSDF/KBDL
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:35 am

N265UP, now in the A-net data base.
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:09 am

Is there any website to see the airline's route network?
Or weekly/monthly schedules?
Thanks a lot.
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:12 pm

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Is there any website to see the airline's route network?
Or weekly/monthly schedules?
Thanks a lot.


Destinations, Frequencies and Aircraft type will differ, for the upcoming 7 days, see : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airl ... ups/routes
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:16 pm

sand26391 wrote:
Is there any website to see the airline's route network?
Or weekly/monthly schedules?
Thanks a lot.

The schedule changes fairly consistently. There are bid periods where days are locked in. But days 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 are almost always unique.
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:56 pm

747classic wrote:
sand26391 wrote:
Is there any website to see the airline's route network?
Or weekly/monthly schedules?
Thanks a lot.


Destinations, Frequencies and Aircraft type will differ, for the upcoming 7 days, see : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airl ... ups/routes


Thanks a lot, I refer FR24 aswell. Thought UPS had some kinda schedule somewhere, hence asked. Thanks for the reply & help :-)
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:30 am

Couldn't resist to post this UPS MD11 picture
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Re: UPS fleet

Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:38 am

The next 747-8F, N630UP, joined the UPS fleet,
She happens to be the 100th 747-8F.
Delivery flight KPAE-KSDF at October 26th 2021 with callsign 5X9566, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N63 ... /KPAE/KSDF

N630UP, KPAE, Oct 26th 2021
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Re: UPS fleet

Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:27 am

What killed the 707 and DC-8 were high fuel costs coupled with less efficient engines. Noise was also a big issue with more work needed to get them legal (barely).

If not for these issues we would have seen more of them last longer.

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Re: UPS fleet

Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:59 pm

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What killed the 707 and DC-8 were high fuel costs coupled with less efficient engines. Noise was also a big issue with more work needed to get them legal (barely).

If not for these issues we would have seen more of them last longer.

bug


That's why UPS operated a total of fifty three (53) DC8-71/73 AF/CF/F aircraft

N703UP, Douglas DC-8-71CF, operated for United Parcel Service (UPS) from 30 Apr 1985 untill 2009.
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Original uploaded by RALibararian at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/librarian_ra/status ... 0997065730
 
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Re: UPS fleet

Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:24 pm

747classic wrote:
69bug wrote:
What killed the 707 and DC-8 were high fuel costs coupled with less efficient engines. Noise was also a big issue with more work needed to get them legal (barely).

If not for these issues we would have seen more of them last longer.

bug


That's why UPS operated a total of fifty three (53) DC8-71/73 AF/CF/F aircraft

N703UP, Douglas DC-8-71CF, operated for United Parcel Service (UPS) from 30 Apr 1985 untill 2009.
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Original uploaded by RALibararian at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/librarian_ra/status ... 0997065730


Indeed, those who have ben around here long enough or know the biz also know that the reasons stated in the OP are pretty much completely wrong. Of the total Production run of -60 series UPS operated about 20% (53 out of about 260), and around half of all the -70s that were converted (110 total conversions)

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