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Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:05 am

Skybus's DC8-73CF OB-2059-P did a round trip MIA-GEO today.
 
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:43 am

That makes sense - I like the randomness of it all.
 
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:20 am

Peak is in full gear at BHM. They're still sending the ATI 762 over around 5 PM from SDF, which then leaves around 10 PM to head back up to SDF with outbound. And, the (now) usual MD11 is bringing in the inbound in the morning, and it then heads right back up to SDF with a 96** flight number. The new flight though is a 752 (5X1362), which heads in from SDF around 2 AM and has went off to PHX right afterwards as 5X9856 or continued on with the same flight number (5X1362) to MIA. Timing is certainly interesting though. Much earlier than the usual MD11 inbound flight. Seems like there's a lot of other 752s leaving SDF around the same time (seems like it's around 1:30-2:30AM). The later flights from like (3:30 AM to 5:30 AM) seem to be mostly widebodies. Not sure if this is something new but certainly thought it was interesting.
 
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:32 am

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wjcandee wrote:
If you look at the post where they were introduced, he offered them up as a random, new-ish frame at each major integrator to compare reliability.


That's all I was doing there. I picked the two 800lb gorillas and one newish jet for each. So basically June 2020 delivered jets for both competitors.


Makes sense, thanks... I tried skimming upstream in the thread and missed it
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:16 am

Tuesday was a whirlwind but is now dying down. Where oh where do we find the rough and tumble 747s of Aerotranscargo?

ER-BAJ: Relaxing in BUD for the past 13hrs. Flew a HKG-NQZ-BUD work shift today.

ER-BAM: Roll Tide is once again showing as in NQZ, this time for the past 48hrs. Roll Tide did do a disappearing act earlier in the week though and somehow departed NQZ and got into Europe without anyone the wiser.

ER-BBB: KHN-??? Has arisen from its nap and is now doing yeoman's work. NQZ-BUD-NQZ-KHN-???. Currently over China at 25,600ft and 463kts.

ER-BBJ: The Upper Crust Society, Factory Made, Only Nose Loading 747 of the bunch stands ready to depart KHN. Flew NQZ-LHR-NQZ-KHN during the past 24hrs. The Blue Blooded Jet seems to get LHR in its route system more than others...well when in England, one must keep up appearances.

ER-JAI: MRO @ CGK

ER-BAC: The hired gun of Terra Avia remains in LOS until needed again....

ER-BAG: GYD-??? At 31,000ft and 610kts over India Eastbound. Had a funky XMN-GYD routing earlier, that outside of weather related issues, had me scratching my head. It took the two lengths of a triangle home, rather than the straight shot.

National Airlines 747-400
N756CA: SAT for light maintenance.

Western Global 747-400
N344KD: Forty Fo is back in the game. Currently rests in PHL after zipping off a PHL-CAE-ONT-PHL 24hrs.

UPS 747-8F
N621UP: ANC-ICN...Just taxing in under good, reliable GE power. Sat for 12+ hrs in ANC after pulling an ICN-PVG-ICN-ANC route. Sooo, if UPS's own metal sits at ANC for 12+ hours, does that open up other options as to what has been occurring for National?

FEDEX 777F
N845FD: LGG lounging. Worked IND-CDG-LGG stages today.
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:09 am

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ER-BAG: GYD-??? At 31,000ft and 610kts over India Eastbound. Had a funky XMN-GYD routing earlier, that outside of weather related issues, had me scratching my head. It took the two lengths of a triangle home, rather than the straight shot.


That's one interesting route: 2.5 hours north, then 7.5 hours west. We'll probably never know why...

Speaking of which, interesting about the UPS 12-hour ANC layover, but when other jets are happily coming and going and National isn't, it seems like a coincidence. And maybe it all was maint, given the National Eastbound ferry home to MCO today of N952CA after a few days in ANC while headed West. I did notice that they brought N702CA into SDF tonight, presumably to cover the CGN trip.
 
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:08 am

After the third customer acceptance flight, a few days delayed, the last brand new 2020 UPS aircraft (767-300F) is scheduled to be delivered to San Antonio at December 23th with callsign 5X9500.
A flight plan has already been filed : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS ... /KPAE/KSAT

Aircraft data : L/N 1228 C/N 65909 B767-300F N374UP UNITED PARCEL SERVICE (VR302)
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:42 am

Could these ANC ground times be simply a result of curfews at several main airports in eastern Asia? If you're westbound and arrive in ANC late, you end up having to wait for hours until you can hit your destination airport when the curfew lifts in the morning. If you're eastbound and capturing transload freight at ANC from various Asia-ANC flights, if one or more of those flights also missed its evening departure, the curfew snags them too and you again have to wait for hours overnight for your freight.
 
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:10 pm

The brand new UPS 747-8F (N625UP) in full swing at the 2020 Peak season :

N625UP, SDF, loading as 5X2998 for ANC.
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Original uploaded by Kelley Lepley at twitter, for more pictures, see : https://twitter.com/kclepley/status/1341501040093499396

See : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N62 ... /KSDF/PANC
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:46 pm

747classic wrote:
The brand new UPS 747-8F (N625UP) in full swing at the 2020 Peak season :

N625UP, SDF, loading as 5X2998 for ANC.
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Original uploaded by Kelley Lepley at twitter, for more pictures, see : https://twitter.com/kclepley/status/1341501040093499396

See : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N62 ... /KSDF/PANC


I love the photo as you can see the UPS 747-8F along with an Atlas 747 and ATI 767 in the background. Any update or tally on what Atlas provided to others during Peak?
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:34 pm

Thanks to JetTip, I received a text alert earlier about N225NE operating LGG-JFK. This is the NE Patriots 767, it appears to be a cargo flight using belly space. Cool visitor for JFK.
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:32 pm

Well this is odd. A Longtail 747 (presumably VQ-BWT) is scheduled to fly SDF-IND tonight. Right now it's flying ANC-SDF. From what I remember, she's NOT flying for UPS despite the destination. Could this be for the USPS, or is it more likely a misfile? Nothing has popped up yet in FR24. The flight number LGT2202 has been for with the SDF-ANC leg over the last month.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/LGT2202
 
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:44 pm

Because she's coming through ANC, she can drop at more than one location, and/or she can reposition within the US to an outbound international leg. I don't think she's going to be able to carry cargo that originates at SDF and flies to IND and is offloaded there. I'm a little hazy on this these days, but I believe that that's the situation.
 
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Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:48 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Because she's coming through ANC, she can drop at more than one location, and/or she can reposition within the US to an outbound international leg. I don't think she's going to be able to carry cargo that originates at SDF and flies to IND and is offloaded there. I'm a little hazy on this these days, but I believe that that's the situation.

I'm just spitballing here, but would it be legal for National to wet-lease a foreign aircraft to operate IND-CGN-IND on their behalf for FedEx in order to free up a 747 to replace the one that just broke in ANC? Otherwise, I'm assuming this is a repositioning flight for some sort of pharmaceutical charter. Louisville to Indy is an easy 2 hour drive on 465 so I doubt someone would fly in from SDF just to deliver some cargo from Asia a few minutes faster (if the cargo was important enough, you'd stop at IND first).
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:29 am

GSOtoIND wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
Because she's coming through ANC, she can drop at more than one location, and/or she can reposition within the US to an outbound international leg. I don't think she's going to be able to carry cargo that originates at SDF and flies to IND and is offloaded there. I'm a little hazy on this these days, but I believe that that's the situation.

I'm just spitballing here, but would it be legal for National to wet-lease a foreign aircraft to operate IND-CGN-IND on their behalf for FedEx in order to free up a 747 to replace the one that just broke in ANC? Otherwise, I'm assuming this is a repositioning flight for some sort of pharmaceutical charter. Louisville to Indy is an easy 2 hour drive on 465 so I doubt someone would fly in from SDF just to deliver some cargo from Asia a few minutes faster (if the cargo was important enough, you'd stop at IND first).


I agree it's probably a repositioning flight. Could you wet-lease (or charter) a foreign aircraft to operate only to-and-from the US? Yes, although you may need DOT permission. It might be easier to have the customer be the charterer, although you could set it all up for them.

A recent set of approvals/ongoing-approvals, from last week, can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/document?D= ... -0044-0821

You'll see there's a Longtail application in there approved to move mail to/from US at the request of some charterer starting 1/1/21.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:32 am

Not sure if it interests anybody, but my 767 flight today was just shy of 100K lbs total payload. By far the heaviest it's been this month. Excited to see what tonight's payload will be.
 
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Not sure if it interests anybody, but my 767 flight today was just shy of 100K lbs total payload. By far the heaviest it's been this month. Excited to see what tonight's payload will be.


It's not so often in your biz you get to see them actually show their stuff!
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:58 am

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Not sure if it interests anybody, but my 767 flight today was just shy of 100K lbs total payload. By far the heaviest it's been this month. Excited to see what tonight's payload will be.


Well, the operating guidelines say it will do "this" much. I guess we shall see.

I remember a conversation with my first flight instructor regarding the POH of the C-152..."The paperwork says it would be capable of that performance......when new, without thousands of hours, in 1976. WE are in a whole new century, with the same bird sooooo."
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:08 am

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Not sure if it interests anybody, but my 767 flight today was just shy of 100K lbs total payload. By far the heaviest it's been this month. Excited to see what tonight's payload will be.

We are running 3 daily frequencies into PTY with a 767-300F and Tuesday and Thursday with a 737-400F.
Average Payload in the 2 Morning Frequencies 97000lbs per flight.
Average Payload on the nightly flight 110000lbs per flight.
Average Payload on the 737-400 35000per flight.
Northbound to CVG the average Payload per flight is about 90000lbs on the 767-300F.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:22 am

Last night of hauling before Jolly Old Saint Nick and 9 little reindeer take over the spotlight. Where do we find Aerotranscargo's fleet of roudy 747s?

ER-BAJ: KHN-??? Westbound out of KHN. Pulled a BUD-NQZ-KHN-??? routing today.

ER-BAM: NQZ..Roll Tide relaxes in NQZ after a slower day. Looks to have operated NQZ-KHN-NQZ today.

ER-BBB: The third jet to operate into KHN in the past 24hrs +. Worked a KHN-NQZ-LGG duty day.

ER-BBC: FRA for close to 72hrs....

ER-BBJ: The Upper Crust Society, Factory Made, Only Nose Loading 747 of the bunch teamed up with ER-BBB operating KHN-NQZ-LGG. Both jets are sharing the LGG ramp currently. So that is 4 Kazakhstan based 747s operating into KHN in a 24hr period.

ER-JAI: Has sat out almost all of Peak undergoing MRO @ CGK.

ER-BAC: Still resting in the LOS ramp awaiting the next "Hired Gun" call for Terra Avia.

ER-BAG: Eastbound out of GYD-???. Completed a GYD-DAC-GYD run earlier.

National Airlines 747-400
N756CA: Up and at it again. Conducting a SAT-ANC-HKG workday, still airborne Westbound over the Pacific. Sat for just about 2hrs in ANC before taking off like a scalded cat. I checked the other National 747s and they have 3 of 4 operational jets running routes as of this afternoon.

Western Global 747-400
N344KD: Forty FO is tied to the City of Brotherly Love. Worked a PHL-CAE-ONT-PHL routing.

UPS 747-8F
N621UP: ICN-PVG-ICN-ANC

FEDEX 777F
N845FD: LGG-DXB...Not a real barn burner leading up to Christ's arrival in less than 48hrs.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:42 am

CX747: I end up looking forward to your nightly report, and am never disappointed!
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:15 am

FINAL CHRISTMAS PUSH at Anchorage, most important staging point at the US-Asian traffic lane, December 23th 2020.

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Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:49 pm

jreeves96 wrote:
Not sure if it interests anybody, but my 767 flight today was just shy of 100K lbs total payload. By far the heaviest it's been this month. Excited to see what tonight's payload will be.

That's a great weight for the 767. Let me guess, CG up toward the nose! 100k is certainly a bit higher than average for our 767Fs. Usually it's more like 80-90k. Cleaning out the hub.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:17 pm

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Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:54 pm

Longtail's VQ-BWT just started taxiing from the north ramp at IND, and is headed for ANC.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:07 pm

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Could these ANC ground times be simply a result of curfews at several main airports in eastern Asia?

First off, this thread is very interesting read since int'l passenger traffic has fallen off the cliff.
It's been a while since I last posted.

With the exception of Tokyo Narita (NRT), all the major east Asia airports are 24-hours. The major Chinese airports have tons of traffic, including passenger flights at what we may call, at ungodly hours. The longer than usual ground time must be someother reason. Perhaps, it is related to crew rest times.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:15 pm

After working peak season for a contractor of UPS this season it is simple to say that volume is not what the company was expecting. Many flights were cancelled, consolidated or went out empty from the major hub which is surprising in the environment of many people shopping online for the holidays.
 
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After working peak season for a contractor of UPS this season it is simple to say that volume is not what the company was expecting. Many flights were cancelled, consolidated or went out empty from the major hub which is surprising in the environment of many people shopping online for the holidays.


That makes sense. The new CEO insisted they brutally-hold customers to their limits, forcing a ton of stuff onto USPS, which couldn't handle it, although it tried. I think they likely were too aggressive at limiting, which doubtless cost them some $$. At least in some places.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:16 pm

Just had N799JN rumble overhead eastbound as FDX876, hopefully not empty.

On the other hand UPS is delivering here not only with Subaru Crosstreks but yesterday some dudebro with an ancient Jepp Cherokee (with mandatory lift and gnarly tread tires) was running routes.

Fedex has been running new Transit Connects for the first time here, and I've seen the DHL Ford Transit come through the hood more times this past week than in the past 2 years combined.

The USPS delivery vehicle is currently broken down in front of our neighbor's mailbox, but at least my awesome maildude walked my Priority Mail package from California down (total transit time 6 days).
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:33 pm

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Just had N799JN rumble overhead eastbound as FDX876, hopefully not empty.

On the other hand UPS is delivering here not only with Subaru Crosstreks but yesterday some dudebro with an ancient Jepp Cherokee (with mandatory lift and gnarly tread tires) was running routes.

Fedex has been running new Transit Connects for the first time here, and I've seen the DHL Ford Transit come through the hood more times this past week than in the past 2 years combined.

The USPS delivery vehicle is currently broken down in front of our neighbor's mailbox, but at least my awesome maildude walked my Priority Mail package from California down (total transit time 6 days).


A LOT of that USPS overflow ended up on our planes. We had a very heavy peak. Planes were certainly not empty.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:01 pm

Hey, Gang. I will try to do a bit of a post-mortem at some point in the next few days. And of course Peak actually lasts a couple more weeks, but not at the pace through today.

Thank you Spacepope for suggesting that we initiate this thread this year, and really pushing me to do it. I appreciate your wise observations here (and over at the Amazon thread, too). Thank you everyone for the amazing contributions -- you're such good writers!! And the info has been incredible.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:59 pm

HPRamper wrote:
jreeves96 wrote:
Not sure if it interests anybody, but my 767 flight today was just shy of 100K lbs total payload. By far the heaviest it's been this month. Excited to see what tonight's payload will be.

That's a great weight for the 767. Let me guess, CG up toward the nose! 100k is certainly a bit higher than average for our 767Fs. Usually it's more like 80-90k. Cleaning out the hub.


Last nights payload didn't even touch 80k. Actually our second lightest we've been since I came down on 27NOV. CG was actually almost perfect, but more nose heavy.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:51 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Hey, Gang. I will try to do a bit of a post-mortem at some point in the next few days. And of course Peak actually lasts a couple more weeks, but not at the pace through today.

Thank you Spacepope for suggesting that we initiate this thread this year, and really pushing me to do it. I appreciate your wise observations here (and over at the Amazon thread, too). Thank you everyone for the amazing contributions -- you're such good writers!! And the info has been incredible.


I do concur - indeed this has been an enjoyable and informative thread. Thank you to all the contributors!

I've been looking (albeit infrequently) at some of the cargo movement activity in Southern California, particularly at RIV (March Air Reserve Base) and SBD (San Bernardino Int'l). From the outset of the establishment of cargo ops at those fields, there had been doubt in some circles about the long-term viability of air logistics at those respective fields.

Thus far, it appears that both airports are holding their own. As it relates to the theme of this thread, RIV operations are up 45% YoY, driven largely by air cargo. In fairness, most of this increase is attributable to the full ramp-up of Amazon Air. However, the UPS operation has had a much longer season at RIV versus last year.

SBD has seen stellar growth YoY (+35%). While the Amazon-UPS operation has been the backbone of SBD cargo activity, there has been quite an increase in true integrator activity. To add, this season has seen consistent, nearly daily visits by both Connie Kalitta and Gulf & Caribbean (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread). IIRC (from what I posted on last years thread), SBD saw a decent 6-8 dedicated cargo ops during the holiday peak season. This year, that number has risen to 12-15 (day dependent) dedicated cargo ops during the peak.

Though foolhardy to discount pandemic induced demand impacts, it will be interesting to observe both of these airports on a going forward basis.

As an aside, it's also been quite interesting observing the number of positioning flights within the area - usually originating at ONT - destined to both SBD and RIV.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:11 pm

aaway: So interesting! I know Amazon now has like 4 flights from RIV to Hawaii daily (3 to HNL), but I hadn't focused on more than that. Thanks for the great info!
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:13 pm

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They held their own, and I was happy to see the one 727 route, 2x daily from SDF-California, go off smoothly day after day (while the other had a simpler circuit). Watching that comparatively-little gal doggedly doing her thing, day and night, on an important route, was sweet.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:43 pm

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I love the photo as you can see the UPS 747-8F along with an Atlas 747 and ATI 767 in the background. Any update or tally on what Atlas provided to others during Peak?


Atlas leased 4 or 5 747s to both UPS and FedEx. Each also got one 767-300. I'm down in Memphis taking care of the FedEx/Atlas side so I'm not sure what UPS is doing, but we're currently doing HNL, CGN, and SJU. Believe HNL and SJU are postal. N1619A is also doing a GEG run. Seems like 19A is the only aircraft that stayed on it's original route.

There's also an IND-CGN-IND route on the 747.
 
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:57 pm

As a quick update on WGN:

Not surprisingly, the MD11s are largely done for the season, although there are a couple still running for UPS and FDX. Many have flown to SHV (maintenance base) or RSW (home, where WGN also does light maintenance):

411SN SHV this afternoon from DFW.
412SN SHV this morning from ORD.
415JN RSW this afternoon from CLE
512JN Still running, currently in air ONT-EWR
513SN Still running, currently in air PHL-ONT
581JN At SLC for 18 hours (FedEx)
799JN About to fly SLC-MEM (FedEx)
542KD RSW this morning from DTW
543JN SHV at noonish from MSY
545JN RSW this afternoon from SDF
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546JN Never left SHV for Peak (been there six months for maint after actively flying for months before that)
435KD At SHV for almost 8 months from desert
804SN At SHV for 2 years after purchase from LH


On the 747 side, 344KD is off to Halifax for some fish; 356KD is still broken in CAE after hitting that light pole; 258SN is on its way back from HKG via ICN and now in the air to ANC.
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Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:03 pm

Low key gonna miss seeing those blue and white tri-holers on the ramp surrounded by a sea of purple...
 
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Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:26 am

Truly hats off to all the contributors. This has been an excellent thread and really brought some Christmas cheer into watching everything. Merry Christmas Everyone.

So, as Santa and his reindeer continue to deliver their packages, where do we find Aerotranscargo's roudy 747s for the final few hours before Christmas???

ER-BAJ: Out of the former British Territory HKG headed Westbound. Operated a LGG-NQZ-KHN-??? route.

ER-BAM: Roll Tide began Christmas early and has been on the ramp in NQZ for the past 24hrs.

ER-BBB: Resting in KHN with company...company, after operating LGG-NQZ-KHN.

ER-BBC: Frankfurt, Germany for the past 4 days.

ER-BBJ: The Upper Crust Society, Factory Made, Only Nose Loading 747 of the group matched BBB's routing and also flew LGG-NQZ-KHN. Both Upper Crust and BBB share the ramp at KHN currently.

ER-JAI: Slept through all of Peak @ CGK for MRO.

ER-BAC: The Paxargo, "Gun For Hire" of Terra Avia continues to sit in LOS awaiting the next call of a midnight run.

ER-BAG: The red headed step child rests in GYD. It flew an interesting route of GYD-TII-GYD. TII is Tarinkot Airport in Afghanistan.......

National Airlines 747-400
N756CA: Flew HKG-ANC. More than likely a free bird at this point and preparing to reposition.

Western Global 747-400
N344KD: Forty FO pulled a PHL-CAE-ORD-YHZ-ANC and is currently Westbound at 32,000ft and 520kts for ANC. More than likely all done with Peak when it broke for ORD. Prior to peak it flew ORD-YHZ-ANC-ICN-CSX-ANC-ORD lengths like clockwork.

UPS 747-8F
N621UP: ANC-ICN, not a hard day

FEDEX 777F
N845FD: Old 45 Slab Slides pulled a DXB-CDG-MEM and is currently Westbound over the Atlantic.
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:44 am

wjcandee wrote:
toga998 wrote:
After working peak season for a contractor of UPS this season it is simple to say that volume is not what the company was expecting. Many flights were cancelled, consolidated or went out empty from the major hub which is surprising in the environment of many people shopping online for the holidays.


That makes sense. The new CEO insisted they brutally-hold customers to their limits, forcing a ton of stuff onto USPS, which couldn't handle it, although it tried. I think they likely were too aggressive at limiting, which doubtless cost them some $$. At least in some places.


When you come out saying you are being, "Selective" on what you haul, turn back cargo from vendors and somehow deep six 747s that were needed, it could have a chilling effect on your current and possible customer base.

Hopefully Brown can figure it out and somebody can get those 747-8Fs a home.
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:01 am

CX747 wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
toga998 wrote:
After working peak season for a contractor of UPS this season it is simple to say that volume is not what the company was expecting. Many flights were cancelled, consolidated or went out empty from the major hub which is surprising in the environment of many people shopping online for the holidays.


That makes sense. The new CEO insisted they brutally-hold customers to their limits, forcing a ton of stuff onto USPS, which couldn't handle it, although it tried. I think they likely were too aggressive at limiting, which doubtless cost them some $$. At least in some places.


I understand not chasing pennies to lose dollars. I get not assisting a competitor build their empire on your back. I do not agree with or understand UPS's current mantra of, "We are going to be SELECTIVE". Heck, you can do things quietly that assist your bottome line. That has not been done and it seems UPS has almost shouted at customers, "Take your shipment elsewhere, you are low cost and low class."

To me it has completely backfired. The new CEO thought she sounded smart when she declined additional 747 lift. Now she will have some explaining to do on why jets ,on property, were empty, during PEAK!

Honestly, I'd have a real conversation about showing her the door.


I'd be really curious to see what the UPS/retailer contract negotiations in 2021 look like. Now that retailers know how badly USPS can/will fail them, they might be willing to pay UPS's higher price for reliable service. FedEx might not have as much space or want to flex into this, especially given the FedEx/USPS interrelation where if FedEx doesn't take the space, USPS definitely will. (Ahhh oligopolies at work!)

We also saw a lot of retailer experimentation with different last mile delivery options. That works well in a recession when there are lots of people out there looking for additional work and are willing to contract with DoorDash, Instacart, etc, etc. Those options might not be as good when the economy is booming. That being said, this moves the issue partly to being a how to properly distribute inventory over a bunch of different stores, plus staffing those stores in a busy period, rather than have a few more centralized warehouses.
 
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:12 am

CX747 wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
toga998 wrote:
After working peak season for a contractor of UPS this season it is simple to say that volume is not what the company was expecting. Many flights were cancelled, consolidated or went out empty from the major hub which is surprising in the environment of many people shopping online for the holidays.


That makes sense. The new CEO insisted they brutally-hold customers to their limits, forcing a ton of stuff onto USPS, which couldn't handle it, although it tried. I think they likely were too aggressive at limiting, which doubtless cost them some $$. At least in some places.


When you come out saying you are being, "Selective" on what you haul, turn back cargo from vendors and somehow deep six 747s that were needed, it could have a chilling effect on your current and possible customer base.

Hopefully Brown can figure it out and somebody can get those 747-8Fs a home.


I highly doubt these retailers that had volume limits applied were ponying up for air service. Brown is less segregated between ground and air than Purple is, but I’m more than happy to wait for the UPS ground AAR, as the difference between running smoothly at capacity and total meltdown is razor thin.
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 25, 2020 6:28 pm

National 747 at Orlando KMCO parked by corporate office on west ramp along with their 757 and A330. The 757 came in from KANC.
 
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:38 am

Figured I would check to see what National 747s are up to post-Christmas day. Of course, it is still peak season but curious to see what immediate shifts have taken place. Here's what I found:

702CA: As mentioned earlier, it took over on SDF-CGN for UPS and has been on the ground at SDF for the last few hours. The one thing I did notice was that it flew CTU-ANC-BNA then over to SDF from there before it took over on CGN duty. Anyone know what the BNA stop was about? ANC-BNA was as NCR652, and BNA-SDF was clearly a ferry with a flight number of NCR8791 so seems like BNA was the intended destination and not a diversion.
729CA: Actually performed a test flight today at SAT. All of about a 15-20 minute loop with a max alt of 5,000 feet.
756CA: Had some light maintenance at SAT, and it then flew SAT-ANC-HKG-ANC-LAX from Wednesday to Friday. Flew LAX-DWC most recently and has been on the ground for 15 hours in Dubai.
919CA: was running LAX-ANC-HKG with some long stops in HKG, as has been discussed. Then, it flew CVG-ANC-CTU, sat on the ground for two days in China, and came back through ANC to BNA. Again, really strange with the BNA stops. Anyone have a clue?? Flew right back over from BNA to PVG then back to ORD with the usual stops in ANC (which were only 5 and 2 hours, respectively). It is in the air now to XMN from ORD via ANC, and the stop in ANC was only two hours.
952CA: has been resting at MCO since Tuesday

And lastly, 356KD of WGN is still at CAE. Will be interesting to see what the status of the wingtip is when it leaves CAE.
 
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:18 am

Figured my 767 flight for FedEx would start to see less payload buuuuut, I was wrong. Christmas night flight was the lightest we've had, but todays, Saturday, flight was one of the top five heaviest. FedEx load planner told me our plane was 80% postal. Postal is apparently very, very backed up.
 
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:42 am

jreeves96 wrote:
Figured my 767 flight for FedEx would start to see less payload buuuuut, I was wrong. Christmas night flight was the lightest we've had, but todays, Saturday, flight was one of the top five heaviest. FedEx load planner told me our plane was 80% postal. Postal is apparently very, very backed up.


I can attest to how backed up the Post Office is; just getting stuff in and out of some of the sorting facilities at the beginning end of the journey is taking days, and this with things that started at the post office 3-4 days before Christmas. [Six days right now for a package mailed Priority Mail from a post office that is a two-hour drive from me to finally make it to a sorting center 2 hours further away, for example.]

Then it has to get on a plane (and/or truck) and go through the same thing at the other end. You guys will be helping them dig out much of the upcoming week, I believe.
 
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:49 am

GDavis003: Nice review! Great that 729CA finally got to the test-flight stage.

I have no clue what the significance is of BNA as a destination. I whomever it was needed a planeload of stuff from China.

The LAX-DWC flight was interesting, too; doesn't look like a ferry, but at 15.5 hours, it would seem like you'd see some capacity limitations.
 
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:13 pm

gdavis003 wrote:
Figured I would check to see what National 747s are up to post-Christmas day. Of course, it is still peak season but curious to see what immediate shifts have taken place. Here's what I found:

702CA: As mentioned earlier, it took over on SDF-CGN for UPS and has been on the ground at SDF for the last few hours. The one thing I did notice was that it flew CTU-ANC-BNA then over to SDF from there before it took over on CGN duty. Anyone know what the BNA stop was about? ANC-BNA was as NCR652, and BNA-SDF was clearly a ferry with a flight number of NCR8791 so seems like BNA was the intended destination and not a diversion.
729CA: Actually performed a test flight today at SAT. All of about a 15-20 minute loop with a max alt of 5,000 feet.
756CA: Had some light maintenance at SAT, and it then flew SAT-ANC-HKG-ANC-LAX from Wednesday to Friday. Flew LAX-DWC most recently and has been on the ground for 15 hours in Dubai.
919CA: was running LAX-ANC-HKG with some long stops in HKG, as has been discussed. Then, it flew CVG-ANC-CTU, sat on the ground for two days in China, and came back through ANC to BNA. Again, really strange with the BNA stops. Anyone have a clue?? Flew right back over from BNA to PVG then back to ORD with the usual stops in ANC (which were only 5 and 2 hours, respectively). It is in the air now to XMN from ORD via ANC, and the stop in ANC was only two hours.
952CA: has been resting at MCO since Tuesday

And lastly, 356KD of WGN is still at CAE. Will be interesting to see what the status of the wingtip is when it leaves CAE.


Believe 756CA had some touch up work done to the paintwork on her rudder whilst at SAT recently.
 
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Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:12 pm

CX747 wrote:
Truly hats off to all the contributors. This has been an excellent thread and really brought some Christmas cheer into watching everything. Merry Christmas Everyone.

So, as Santa and his reindeer continue to deliver their packages, where do we find Aerotranscargo's roudy 747s for the final few hours before Christmas???

ER-BAJ: Out of the former British Territory HKG headed Westbound. Operated a LGG-NQZ-KHN-??? route.

ER-BAM: Roll Tide began Christmas early and has been on the ramp in NQZ for the past 24hrs.

ER-BBB: Resting in KHN with company...company, after operating LGG-NQZ-KHN.

ER-BBC: Frankfurt, Germany for the past 4 days.

ER-BBJ: The Upper Crust Society, Factory Made, Only Nose Loading 747 of the group matched BBB's routing and also flew LGG-NQZ-KHN. Both Upper Crust and BBB share the ramp at KHN currently.

ER-JAI: Slept through all of Peak @ CGK for MRO.

ER-BAC: The Paxargo, "Gun For Hire" of Terra Avia continues to sit in LOS awaiting the next call of a midnight run.

ER-BAG: The red headed step child rests in GYD. It flew an interesting route of GYD-TII-GYD. TII is Tarinkot Airport in Afghanistan.......

National Airlines 747-400
N756CA: Flew HKG-ANC. More than likely a free bird at this point and preparing to reposition.

Western Global 747-400
N344KD: Forty FO pulled a PHL-CAE-ORD-YHZ-ANC and is currently Westbound at 32,000ft and 520kts for ANC. More than likely all done with Peak when it broke for ORD. Prior to peak it flew ORD-YHZ-ANC-ICN-CSX-ANC-ORD lengths like clockwork.

UPS 747-8F
N621UP: ANC-ICN, not a hard day

FEDEX 777F
N845FD: Old 45 Slab Slides pulled a DXB-CDG-MEM and is currently Westbound over the Atlantic.


Is Aerotranscargo primarily hauling cargo from Europe and Asia to NQZ, or is it using NQZ as a stop for cargo traveling between Europe and Asia? Thanks in advance for any info.

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