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UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:32 am

Just curious if anyone knows why 5X 61 diverted to FAI instead of going to ANC as scheduled since ANC is closer?

My guess would be they needed to pick something up at FAI that couldn't wait.
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Re: UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:51 am

Sancho99504 wrote:
Just curious if anyone knows why 5X 61 diverted to FAI instead of going to ANC as scheduled since ANC is closer?

My guess would be they needed to pick something up at FAI that couldn't wait.


You might have more luck in the 2020 peak cargo thread
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Re: UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:21 am

Sancho99504 wrote:
Just curious if anyone knows why 5X 61 diverted to FAI instead of going to ANC as scheduled since ANC is closer?

My guess would be they needed to pick something up at FAI that couldn't wait.


Looks like UPS 67, not 61.
 
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Re: UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:22 am

Probably due to Weather here today. ANC was snowy all day with a visibility of 1/2 mile.
 
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Re: UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:32 am

iAmAlaska49 wrote:
Probably due to Weather here today. ANC was snowy all day with a visibility of 1/2 mile.


Nothing that happened here today would prevent an otherwise airworthy widebody airliner from landing here, as evidenced by the several dozen that did so, along with Alaska Airlines 737s, Delta's flights, and even the turboprops.
Our weather was nothing, especially by PANC standards.
 
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Re: UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:31 pm

AA737-823 wrote:
iAmAlaska49 wrote:
Probably due to Weather here today. ANC was snowy all day with a visibility of 1/2 mile.

Nothing that happened here today would prevent an otherwise airworthy widebody airliner from landing here, as evidenced by the several dozen that did so, along with Alaska Airlines 737s, Delta's flights, and even the turboprops.
Our weather was nothing, especially by PANC standards.

Nothing, other than perhaps an aircrew feeling uncomfortable with the weather at ANC and choosing to land at FAI despite what several dozen other aircrew choose to do. My point is that aircrew aren't supposed to do something just because dozens of others choose to do it, they need to consider their own state and the state of their equipment and make a wise choice. I have no idea what went down, but we do need to not call out aircrew if/when they chose to do something we don't immediately understand.
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Re: UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:03 pm

Revelation wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:
iAmAlaska49 wrote:
Probably due to Weather here today. ANC was snowy all day with a visibility of 1/2 mile.

Nothing that happened here today would prevent an otherwise airworthy widebody airliner from landing here, as evidenced by the several dozen that did so, along with Alaska Airlines 737s, Delta's flights, and even the turboprops.
Our weather was nothing, especially by PANC standards.

Nothing, other than perhaps an aircrew feeling uncomfortable with the weather at ANC and choosing to land at FAI despite what several dozen other aircrew choose to do. My point is that aircrew aren't supposed to do something just because dozens of others choose to do it, they need to consider their own state and the state of their equipment and make a wise choice. I have no idea what went down, but we do need to not call out aircrew if/when they chose to do something we don't immediately understand.




Outside of unknown factors such as equipment failure(s) and or crew incapacitation that would mandate higher approach minimums I can guarantee you that the opposite view will prevail


If everyone else is landing and you were legal for the approach management is going to want to know why you didn’t


This is not private pilot stuff, just having a ‘bad feeling’ about it is not going to be an excuse!
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Re: UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:48 pm

Max Q wrote:
Revelation wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:
Nothing that happened here today would prevent an otherwise airworthy widebody airliner from landing here, as evidenced by the several dozen that did so, along with Alaska Airlines 737s, Delta's flights, and even the turboprops.
Our weather was nothing, especially by PANC standards.

Nothing, other than perhaps an aircrew feeling uncomfortable with the weather at ANC and choosing to land at FAI despite what several dozen other aircrew choose to do. My point is that aircrew aren't supposed to do something just because dozens of others choose to do it, they need to consider their own state and the state of their equipment and make a wise choice. I have no idea what went down, but we do need to not call out aircrew if/when they chose to do something we don't immediately understand.




Outside of unknown factors such as equipment failure(s) and or crew incapacitation that would mandate higher approach minimums I can guarantee you that the opposite view will prevail


If everyone else is landing and you were legal for the approach management is going to want to know why you didn’t


This is not private pilot stuff, just having a ‘bad feeling’ about it is not going to be an excuse!


You could have a high minimums captain, inoperative equipment/MEL, or fuel limitations that could also influence a decision to divert. Nobody cares about what others are doing, just what your op specs dictate.
 
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Re: UPS 61 diversion to FAI

Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:23 pm

Looks like the aircraft in question in enroute FAI-SDF after having spent the night. Possible crew rest issue? Maybe an issue with the aircraft navigation where ANC was IFR and FAI VFR? All wild guesses.

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