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sprite86
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TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:02 pm

Noticed that both G-TUIM and N are both doing routes not associated with there normal travel programme

G-TUIN - Stuttgart to Detroit
G-TUIM - Frankfurt to Greenville-Spartanburg

Is this cargo work or some other charter work ?
 
mxaxai
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:51 pm

It's cargo.

The origins and destinations would suggest that this is related to the automotive industry but I can't know for sure (STR is Daimler HQ, GSP has BMW plant).
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:20 am

I noticed these flights too and got very confused!
 
TC957
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:01 am

TUIM was recently noted operating a couple of FRA - ICN flights.
 
FCAA321
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:28 am

It is indeed Cargo flights. Also operating were deportee flights on the B767 in the last couple of weeks. Normal passenger flights resume this week in addition.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:10 pm

The Detroit spotters page on FB shows that TUI has been a pretty regular visitor to DTW recently.
 
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LN-MOW
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:52 am

They were in ATL last week.
- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
 
Armodeen
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:03 pm

Yeah cargo. Also done other ad hoc work such as UN flights into BEY etc.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:33 pm

G-TUIM is flying AMS-DFW today. Anyone know what they could be carrying or if they’re planning additional flights to DFW in the future?
 
mxaxai
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:07 am

Confirmation by TUI in German media:
In Stuttgart several "Dreamliners" from tour operator TUI are starting these days. However, the aircraft do not fly tourists to the Caribbean, but operate cargo flights. A Tuifly spokesman confirmed this at the request of airliners.de and stated that TUI has been operating cargo flights "for a few weeks".

Tuifly does not coordinate the cargo flights itself, but through a broker. The freight business is extremely short-term, the spokesman continued. TUI has made flights to America, Mexico and Argentina in the past. In addition to Stuttgart, the largest Dreamliners in the fleet also departed from Frankfurt. They also fly from other European countries, such as Belgium and the Netherlands.

The group is currently using two Boeing 787-9s for its cargo business. However, the machines are not structurally changed for this. Only the belly freight capacities would be used. These were sufficient as no passenger suitcases would take up space.

https://www.airliners.de/frachtfluege-d ... lfen/58665 [German]

It is not true that they're only using 2 Boeing 787-9. Probably an error by the PR department. Over the past few weeks they've used (at least):

OO-JDL 787-8
OO-LOE 787-8
G-TUIC 787-8
G-TUID 787-8

G-TUIF 787-9
G-TUIJ 787-9
G-TUIK 787-9
G-TUIM 787-9
G-TUIN 787-9
G-TUIO 787-9

I assume that not changing the configuration allows TUI to swap the aircraft dynamically between cargo and pax flights; at least that's what the record on FR24 suggests.

Ishrion wrote:
AMS-DFW

Armodeen wrote:
UN flights into BEY

LN-MOW wrote:
ATL

TC957 wrote:
FRA - ICN

sprite86 wrote:
Stuttgart to Detroit
Frankfurt to Greenville-Spartanburg

An additional destination the past few days has been GDL. I don't know what place in Argentina is served, as noted in the article.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:46 pm

G-TUIF is a -8, not -9.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:16 am

HSV is a new one that is starting up tomorrow from Brussels. Not sure what it's for, probably either for Panalpina/DSV, automobile parts cargo, or NASA.https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JAF ... /EBBR/KHSV. It'll either be on OO-LOE or OO-JDL, as those are the two for TUI Belgium and it has a TUI Belgium callsign.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:31 pm

This is interesting. I noticed they had two planes parked at the hanger today which is the most I've seen here at DTW at one time. Turns out they flew in from LGW and MHT.

I have my own theory to explain this phenomenon though I do NOT have confirmation of the exact reason why they started flying here...wblackburn

Covid vaccines from Phizer.

I've heard they're making the vaccines here in Michigan on the west side of the state (Kalamazoo or Battle Creek). While the biggest airport on that side of the state is most likely Grand Rapids, I don't think that airport has a long enough runway, the ability to handle overseas cargo flights, or the refrigeration capacity to keep the vaccines at such low temperatures. I'd assume that DTW has the ability to handle the daunting task of storing and shipping vaccines.
 
TC957
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:57 pm

G-TUIO is on it's way back from DTW to LGW now, due in after midnight.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:06 pm

TUI Netherlands is also running near daily B788 Cargo services routing AMS-STR-DTW-AMS:

- 16 Jan 2021 Stuttgart (STR) - Detroit (DTW) X37891 B788 PH-TFK
- 14 Jan 2021 Stuttgart (STR) - Detroit (DTW) X37891 B788 PH-TFK
- 13 Jan 2021 Stuttgart (STR) - Detroit (DTW) OR7831 B788 PH-TFL
- 12 Jan 2021 Stuttgart (STR) - Detroit (DTW) OR7891 B788 PH-TFK
- 10 Jan 2021 Stuttgart (STR) - Detroit (DTW) OR7891 B788 PH-TFK

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-tfk
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:25 pm

OO-JDL has arrived in Bucharest (OTP) on Sunday morning, cargo flight from Seoul (ICN), then departed to Brussels.

Photos + video: https://twitter.com/AeronewsGlobal/stat ... 6433528838
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:40 pm

gdavis003 wrote:
HSV is a new one that is starting up tomorrow from Brussels. Not sure what it's for, probably either for Panalpina/DSV, automobile parts cargo, or NASA.https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JAF ... /EBBR/KHSV. It'll either be on OO-LOE or OO-JDL, as those are the two for TUI Belgium and it has a TUI Belgium callsign.


OO-LOE is currently at Luton on maintenance.

If the flight is originating in Brussels tomorrow could it be a Pfizer Vaccine flight?
 
mxaxai
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:50 pm

TUI released a short (2:12) video on youtube with a brief comment from a captain on one of the flights. Doesn't look like any cargo with special handling requirements, mostly cardboard boxes.
https://youtu.be/YTn5godh6FY
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:05 pm

mxaxai wrote:
TUI released a short (2:12) video on youtube with a brief comment from a captain on one of the flights. Doesn't look like any cargo with special handling requirements, mostly cardboard boxes.
https://youtu.be/YTn5godh6FY


But TUI do carry freight on their regular flights, including cargo that requires special handling including fresh produce and dangerous goods.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:07 pm

I flew on G-TUIJ and it has not operated passenger flights in ages
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:18 pm

And what kind of flight is this right now? PH-TFL TUI Fly Netherlands just departed from HAM to SEA:

https://fr24.com/JAF9670/27380d43

Can ist be a „normal“ passenger flight?
 
factsonly
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:49 pm

The TUI Group keeps its aircraft busy flying freight and operating odd charters for shipping crews.

Here are two other current routings:

- Daily MUC-LGW BY8770 B789 G-TUIJ
- Daily LGW-DTW BY8771 B789 G-TUIJ
- Daily DTW-MUC BY771P B789 G-TUIJ

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-tuij

- 27 Mar 2021 MAN - AMS TOM818P B789 G-TUIN
- 27 Mar 2021 AMS - MAN BY8818 B789 G-TUIN
- 27 Mar 2021 MAN - YYC BY8819 B789 G-TUIN
- 27 Mar 2021 YYC - AMS BY819 B789 G-TUIN
- 28 Mar 2021 AMS - MAN BY8820 B789 G-TUIN

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-tuin
 
TC957
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:40 pm

And with the Ever Given stuck across the Suez Canal, demand for freighters may well be another notch up. I'm surprised not more have been taken out of desert storage.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:39 pm

The stuff stuck because of the blocked suez channel is not time sensitive enough / value dense to be put on planes and even if reactivating anything from the desert takes way to long.
 
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Re: TUI - are they doing cargo work ?

Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:09 am

B763 PH-OYI has been operating for ASL Belgium in the past week, I don't know if it's TUI or ASL crew.

2021-03-22 TAY909P EHAM - EHAM ( FMS problem caused return )
2021-03-23 TAY909P EHAM - KLSV
2021-03-34 TAY5141 KLSV - ETNG
2021-03-25 TAY911P ETNG - EHAM

I would guess it was bring home the NATO AWACS deployment from Red Flag 21-2. But what took them outbound?

Edit: B763 OO-JNL

2021-02-27 TAY877F EBBR - EBLG
2021-02-27 TAY5118 EBLG - KLSV

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