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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:56 am

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Anyone know why 4 of Fiji Airways A330's are flying to Sydney simultaneously? Unless it's an FR24 error


I would imagine it would be a result of Cyclone Yasa bearing down on Fiji and wanting to get those planes to safety.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:20 am

REX has been approved by CASA for adding a HC (High Capacity) AOC using the 738.

https://cdn-api.markitdigital.com/apima ... a206a39ff4
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:51 am

FJO (A333) about to land. A359 and 738 already here in SYD
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:18 am

A van driver who drives aircrew between SYD & aircrew hotels has tested positive for COVID, the first case of community transmission in Sydney for a couple of weeks. NSW Government looking into tightening restrictions for International aircrew who fly into SYD as a result.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/ ... l#comments
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:33 am

Qantas737 wrote:
gpasternak wrote:
Anyone know why 4 of Fiji Airways A330's are flying to Sydney simultaneously? Unless it's an FR24 error


I would imagine it would be a result of Cyclone Yasa bearing down on Fiji and wanting to get those planes to safety.


Oops, I should have put that together. For now I'll blame it on cancelling my premium FR24, which had a weather overlay...

Out of interest, I wonder who pays for the flight. FJ themselves or the insurance company hedging their bets?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:49 pm

REX has received its' high capacity AOC and it can operate the 737-800.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 73b60db73c
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:54 pm

Qantas737 wrote:
gpasternak wrote:
Anyone know why 4 of Fiji Airways A330's are flying to Sydney simultaneously? Unless it's an FR24 error


I would imagine it would be a result of Cyclone Yasa bearing down on Fiji and wanting to get those planes to safety.


FJ moved its entitled jet fleet to SYD/AKL to sit out the storm, as they normally do in the case of an cyclone.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:48 pm

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FJ moved its entitled jet fleet to SYD/AKL to sit out the storm, as they normally do in the case of an cyclone.


Those jets flying at 30,000+ft really have an inflated view of themselves huh ;)...
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:56 pm

WA has re-instated a 14-day quarantine for arrivals from NSW, with the latest flare-up in Sydney. QLD has also re-instated a quarantine, but limited to those who have been in the Northern Beaches area of Sydney at this stage. Will be an anxious weekend for Sydney, hopefully they manage to contain things.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/ ... 56oj0.html
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:22 pm

The Australian is reporting that Qantas will announce the following new routes today (Friday).

Source - The Australian (Paywall)

- Sydney-Griffith: Begins February 1 and will operate daily

- Melbourne-Newcastle: Begins February 1 and will have 12 flights per week

- Melbourne-Merimbula: Begins February 1 and will operate four times per week

- Melbourne-Mount Gambier: Begins March 28 and will operate five time per week

- Melbourne-Wagga Wagga: Begins March 28 and will run four flights per week

- Melbourne-Albury: Begins March 28 and will operate four times per week

- Adelaide-Mount Gambier: Begins March 28 and operates five flights per week.


Wow............. that’s a massive increase in regional flying, no doubt aimed squarely at one competitor in particular who incidentally have already issued a media release bleating about Federal Government support for Qantas and anti-competitive behaviour.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:53 pm

qf2220 wrote:
zkncj wrote:
FJ moved its entitled jet fleet to SYD/AKL to sit out the storm, as they normally do in the case of an cyclone.


Those jets flying at 30,000+ft really have an inflated view of themselves huh ;)...


Please.... where is the like button :D :lol:
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:26 am

International aircrews into Sydney to be restricted to two police managed hotels as of Tuesday (instead of 25 unrestricted hotels currently).

28 cases in the Northern Beaches cluster as of this morning, possibly from a US linked strain.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:52 am

^^ Given the number of border restrictions that are being put in place, it will create more headaches for the airlines.

VHVOZ wrote:
The Australian is reporting that Qantas will announce the following new routes today (Friday).

Source - The Australian (Paywall)

- Sydney-Griffith: Begins February 1 and will operate daily

- Melbourne-Newcastle: Begins February 1 and will have 12 flights per week

- Melbourne-Merimbula: Begins February 1 and will operate four times per week

- Melbourne-Mount Gambier: Begins March 28 and will operate five time per week

- Melbourne-Wagga Wagga: Begins March 28 and will run four flights per week

- Melbourne-Albury: Begins March 28 and will operate four times per week

- Adelaide-Mount Gambier: Begins March 28 and operates five flights per week.


Wow............. that’s a massive increase in regional flying, no doubt aimed squarely at one competitor in particular who incidentally have already issued a media release bleating about Federal Government support for Qantas and anti-competitive behaviour.


Qantas have also made a few moves onto routes they haven’t looked at flying on until other carriers started service during this period, and given its increasingly strong position in the market will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:00 am

Victorians have just been asked not to travel to Sydney. Permit scheme will be introduced as of midnight for arrivals into VIC from NSW. Those from the 'hot zone' to undergo 14 days quarantine, while those from elsewhere in Sydney are to be tested & undergo self-isolation until they get their results.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/coro ... 56okd.html
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:01 am

IndianicWorld wrote:
VHVOZ wrote:
The Australian is reporting that Qantas will announce the following new routes today (Friday).

Source - The Australian (Paywall)

- Sydney-Griffith: Begins February 1 and will operate daily

- Melbourne-Newcastle: Begins February 1 and will have 12 flights per week

- Melbourne-Merimbula: Begins February 1 and will operate four times per week

- Melbourne-Mount Gambier: Begins March 28 and will operate five time per week

- Melbourne-Wagga Wagga: Begins March 28 and will run four flights per week

- Melbourne-Albury: Begins March 28 and will operate four times per week

- Adelaide-Mount Gambier: Begins March 28 and operates five flights per week.


Wow............. that’s a massive increase in regional flying, no doubt aimed squarely at one competitor in particular who incidentally have already issued a media release bleating about Federal Government support for Qantas and anti-competitive behaviour.


It seems to be a very targeted approach that does seem quite questionable indeed. It certainly adds significant pressure on that one competitor in particular.

Qantas have also made quite a few moves onto routes they haven’t looked at flying on until other carriers start service, and given its increasingly strong position in the market will be interesting to see how it plays out.


From the QF news release (https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... australia/), indicates the majority will be flown with Q300, so 50 seats. Struggle to see Rex maintaining services on some of the routes (e.g. SYD-GFF) but, provided QF stays on them after Rex leaves, those communities are probably better off with QF service than Rex service anyway.

MEL-NTL is an interesting choice to launch 12x weekly - they would know a lot about the market as JQ is 2x daily on the route (if not more) but they are offering an arguably inferior service on the Q300. Though they did the same thing with SYD-BNK recently and are already moved up to 737's so we will see.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:30 am

Qantas16 wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:
VHVOZ wrote:
The Australian is reporting that Qantas will announce the following new routes today (Friday).

Source - The Australian (Paywall)



Wow............. that’s a massive increase in regional flying, no doubt aimed squarely at one competitor in particular who incidentally have already issued a media release bleating about Federal Government support for Qantas and anti-competitive behaviour.


It seems to be a very targeted approach that does seem quite questionable indeed. It certainly adds significant pressure on that one competitor in particular.

Qantas have also made quite a few moves onto routes they haven’t looked at flying on until other carriers start service, and given its increasingly strong position in the market will be interesting to see how it plays out.


From the QF news release (https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... australia/), indicates the majority will be flown with Q300, so 50 seats. Struggle to see Rex maintaining services on some of the routes (e.g. SYD-GFF) but, provided QF stays on them after Rex leaves, those communities are probably better off with QF service than Rex service anyway.

MEL-NTL is an interesting choice to launch 12x weekly - they would know a lot about the market as JQ is 2x daily on the route (if not more) but they are offering an arguably inferior service on the Q300. Though they did the same thing with SYD-BNK recently and are already moved up to 737's so we will see.


MEL-NTL looks to be operated by 717s according to the schedules on the QF website. Didn’t they use to fly Dash 8s on the route in the 2000s. From memory it was a 2hr plus trip?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:49 am

 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:11 am

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Fantastic news!

The first 5 aircraft (of the 16 total) are planned to arrive in Brisbane this month, Alliance will then take delivery of one aircraft a month until November 2021.

Come late next year Alliance will have a fleet of 30 E190s. In the years to come no doubt Alliance will become the biggest operator of the aircraft type!

Look forward to seeing these aircraft deployed on existing resource/FIFO services and operating flights on behalf of VA.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:27 am

VHVOZ wrote:
soyuz wrote:


Fantastic news!

The first 5 aircraft (of the 16 total) are planned to arrive in Brisbane this month, Alliance will then take delivery of one aircraft a month until November 2021.

Come late next year Alliance will have a fleet of 30 E190s. In the years to come no doubt Alliance will become the biggest operator of the aircraft type!

Look forward to seeing these aircraft deployed on existing resource/FIFO services and operating flights on behalf of VA.



It's back to the future for Virgin (with the E190). I'm wondering whether these planes might get a Virgin/hybrid livery as I'd imagine half the time they'll be operated for Virgin.

I do see a similar situation to National Jet Systems with the service looking like a regular Virgin one, but all the services operated by Alliance.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:56 am

787Jet wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:

It seems to be a very targeted approach that does seem quite questionable indeed. It certainly adds significant pressure on that one competitor in particular.

Qantas have also made quite a few moves onto routes they haven’t looked at flying on until other carriers start service, and given its increasingly strong position in the market will be interesting to see how it plays out.


From the QF news release (https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... australia/), indicates the majority will be flown with Q300, so 50 seats. Struggle to see Rex maintaining services on some of the routes (e.g. SYD-GFF) but, provided QF stays on them after Rex leaves, those communities are probably better off with QF service than Rex service anyway.

MEL-NTL is an interesting choice to launch 12x weekly - they would know a lot about the market as JQ is 2x daily on the route (if not more) but they are offering an arguably inferior service on the Q300. Though they did the same thing with SYD-BNK recently and are already moved up to 737's so we will see.


MEL-NTL looks to be operated by 717s according to the schedules on the QF website. Didn’t they use to fly Dash 8s on the route in the 2000s. From memory it was a 2hr plus trip?


Yes, MEL-NTL operated by the 717 which makes sense given the distance and size of the market. But it seems those are Y-only flights with J "n/a" when doing a dummy booking. I thought all the east-coast 717s had a J cabin, and only those based in WA on FIFO missions were Y-only?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:15 am

A350OZ wrote:
787Jet wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:

From the QF news release (https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... australia/), indicates the majority will be flown with Q300, so 50 seats. Struggle to see Rex maintaining services on some of the routes (e.g. SYD-GFF) but, provided QF stays on them after Rex leaves, those communities are probably better off with QF service than Rex service anyway.

MEL-NTL is an interesting choice to launch 12x weekly - they would know a lot about the market as JQ is 2x daily on the route (if not more) but they are offering an arguably inferior service on the Q300. Though they did the same thing with SYD-BNK recently and are already moved up to 737's so we will see.


MEL-NTL looks to be operated by 717s according to the schedules on the QF website. Didn’t they use to fly Dash 8s on the route in the 2000s. From memory it was a 2hr plus trip?


Yes, MEL-NTL operated by the 717 which makes sense given the distance and size of the market. But it seems those are Y-only flights with J "n/a" when doing a dummy booking. I thought all the east-coast 717s had a J cabin, and only those based in WA on FIFO missions were Y-only?


I believe all 717s are coming over east, so perhaps some will be used for some Y only routes along the coast.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:16 am

Qantas16 wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:
VHVOZ wrote:
The Australian is reporting that Qantas will announce the following new routes today (Friday).

Source - The Australian (Paywall)



Wow............. that’s a massive increase in regional flying, no doubt aimed squarely at one competitor in particular who incidentally have already issued a media release bleating about Federal Government support for Qantas and anti-competitive behaviour.


It seems to be a very targeted approach that does seem quite questionable indeed. It certainly adds significant pressure on that one competitor in particular.

Qantas have also made quite a few moves onto routes they haven’t looked at flying on until other carriers start service, and given its increasingly strong position in the market will be interesting to see how it plays out.




From the QF news release (https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... australia/), indicates the majority will be flown with Q300, so 50 seats. Struggle to see Rex maintaining services on some of the routes (e.g. SYD-GFF) but, provided QF stays on them after Rex leaves, those communities are probably better off with QF service than Rex service anyway.

MEL-NTL is an interesting choice to launch 12x weekly - they would know a lot about the market as JQ is 2x daily on the route (if not more) but they are offering an arguably inferior service on the Q300. Though they did the same thing with SYD-BNK recently and are already moved up to 737's so we will see.


I'm going to BNK in April and there is no sign of the 737 flight in the schedule then. All back to Q400's.
Thinks do seem to change quickly now though.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:00 am

qf2048 wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
IndianicWorld wrote:

It seems to be a very targeted approach that does seem quite questionable indeed. It certainly adds significant pressure on that one competitor in particular.

Qantas have also made quite a few moves onto routes they haven’t looked at flying on until other carriers start service, and given its increasingly strong position in the market will be interesting to see how it plays out.




From the QF news release (https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... australia/), indicates the majority will be flown with Q300, so 50 seats. Struggle to see Rex maintaining services on some of the routes (e.g. SYD-GFF) but, provided QF stays on them after Rex leaves, those communities are probably better off with QF service than Rex service anyway.

MEL-NTL is an interesting choice to launch 12x weekly - they would know a lot about the market as JQ is 2x daily on the route (if not more) but they are offering an arguably inferior service on the Q300. Though they did the same thing with SYD-BNK recently and are already moved up to 737's so we will see.


I'm going to BNK in April and there is no sign of the 737 flight in the schedule then. All back to Q400's.
Thinks do seem to change quickly now though.


BNK was very popular before the QLD border opened to N.S.W. hence the 737 on the route, as well as the DH4. If the current outbreak in SYD becomes bigger and the reimposed border closure looks to like it might last a while, you'll probably see the 737 back to BNK. Though that may also depend on just how much damage the recent storms have caused to the Ballina/Byron Bay region.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:50 am

LTEN11 wrote:
qf2048 wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:



From the QF news release (https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... australia/), indicates the majority will be flown with Q300, so 50 seats. Struggle to see Rex maintaining services on some of the routes (e.g. SYD-GFF) but, provided QF stays on them after Rex leaves, those communities are probably better off with QF service than Rex service anyway.

MEL-NTL is an interesting choice to launch 12x weekly - they would know a lot about the market as JQ is 2x daily on the route (if not more) but they are offering an arguably inferior service on the Q300. Though they did the same thing with SYD-BNK recently and are already moved up to 737's so we will see.


I'm going to BNK in April and there is no sign of the 737 flight in the schedule then. All back to Q400's.
Thinks do seem to change quickly now though.


BNK was very popular before the QLD border opened to N.S.W. hence the 737 on the route, as well as the DH4. If the current outbreak in SYD becomes bigger and the reimposed border closure looks to like it might last a while, you'll probably see the 737 back to BNK. Though that may also depend on just how much damage the recent storms have caused to the Ballina/Byron Bay region.


The 737 is currently operating twice a day most day (QF1160/1164 flight numbers). On Sunday's, QF is currently 5x daily SYD-BNK (3 x DH8, 2 x 737).

Given this is a route QF only launched at the end of March and initially only as a once daily Q300, it is very impressive to see that is has grown so quickly. I completely understand this is one of the routes that has done very favourably out of COVID, however, still impressive.

For the last few years, Qantas has slowly begun to reenter some of the leisure markets it left for JQ a long time ago but since COVID, that has really increased. Routes like MCY-CBR, CNS-CBR would have been unthinkable for QF not that long ago.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:19 pm

Here's something you don't see everyday on an airline website:
https://www.rex.com.au/Products_Promo/F ... DF?d271120
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:43 pm

Another batch of used E190-E1 found a new operator:

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/a ... 73.article

Excerpt:

“The 100-seat jet aircraft market globally will rebound quickly as carriers look to focus on total trip costs rather than traditional metrics.”
According to Alliance, the aircraft were previously operated by American Airlines and are configured with 99 seats across two classes.
Alliance will receive these over an 11-month period, starting with five this month and one a month until November 2021."

Those aircrafts will join the previous 14 E190-E1 that was acquired on 3 August from US-based lessor Azorra Aviation. These planes used to fly to Copa Airlines.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:33 am

Coffs Harbour airport is to be privatized with Palisade Investment partners striking a deal with the local council for the next 50 years.
I wonder if we'll see Jetstar or Qlink, with 717's, on MEL - CFS now that Tiger no long fly that route. QF did have a go at it a few years but pulled out and left it to Tiger.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:42 am

EMBSPBR wrote:
Another batch of used E190-E1 found a new operator:

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/a ... 73.article

Excerpt:

“The 100-seat jet aircraft market globally will rebound quickly as carriers look to focus on total trip costs rather than traditional metrics.”
According to Alliance, the aircraft were previously operated by American Airlines and are configured with 99 seats across two classes.
Alliance will receive these over an 11-month period, starting with five this month and one a month until November 2021."

Those aircrafts will join the previous 14 E190-E1 that was acquired on 3 August from US-based lessor Azorra Aviation. These planes used to fly to Copa Airlines.


What is Alliance planning todo with all those e190s?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:50 am

zkncj wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:
Another batch of used E190-E1 found a new operator:

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/a ... 73.article

Excerpt:

“The 100-seat jet aircraft market globally will rebound quickly as carriers look to focus on total trip costs rather than traditional metrics.”
According to Alliance, the aircraft were previously operated by American Airlines and are configured with 99 seats across two classes.
Alliance will receive these over an 11-month period, starting with five this month and one a month until November 2021."

Those aircrafts will join the previous 14 E190-E1 that was acquired on 3 August from US-based lessor Azorra Aviation. These planes used to fly to Copa Airlines.


What is Alliance planning todo with all those e190s?


It appears to be contract work for VA
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:45 pm

Looking very likely that Victoria will announce further restrictions on those travelling from NSW tomorrow. At 'best', those travelling from Sydney will have to undergo 14 days hotel quarantine, or at 'worst', there might be a hard border reimposed restricting travel from all of NSW. Vic Government has requested assistance from the ADF for border checkpoints. Not good, especially at this time of year.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 56oz0.html
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:38 pm

Kent350787 wrote:
zkncj wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:
Another batch of used E190-E1 found a new operator:

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/a ... 73.article

Excerpt:

“The 100-seat jet aircraft market globally will rebound quickly as carriers look to focus on total trip costs rather than traditional metrics.”
According to Alliance, the aircraft were previously operated by American Airlines and are configured with 99 seats across two classes.
Alliance will receive these over an 11-month period, starting with five this month and one a month until November 2021."

Those aircrafts will join the previous 14 E190-E1 that was acquired on 3 August from US-based lessor Azorra Aviation. These planes used to fly to Copa Airlines.


What is Alliance planning todo with all those e190s?


It appears to be contract work for VA


With VA having said they will return to the Tasman once two way boarders are open.

Could they contract some of these routes out to QQ? asumming the cost base of an QQ wet lease is appealing compared to mainline?

An 100 seater, could be the right size fit for there re-entry onto routes like SYD/MEL-WLG/CHC.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:01 pm

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Looking very likely that Victoria will announce further restrictions on those travelling from NSW tomorrow. At 'best', those travelling from Sydney will have to undergo 14 days hotel quarantine, or at 'worst', there might be a hard border reimposed restricting travel from all of NSW. Vic Government has requested assistance from the ADF for border checkpoints. Not good, especially at this time of year.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 56oz0.html


I'm sitting here in Sydney just feeling frustrated. Nothing that I can do to avoid whatever happens, frustrated someone did the wrong thing etc. At least NSW has expereince in tracing and closing clusters quickly, but the other point know is block the leak in the system.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:13 pm

Kent350787 wrote:
melpax wrote:
Looking very likely that Victoria will announce further restrictions on those travelling from NSW tomorrow. At 'best', those travelling from Sydney will have to undergo 14 days hotel quarantine, or at 'worst', there might be a hard border reimposed restricting travel from all of NSW. Vic Government has requested assistance from the ADF for border checkpoints. Not good, especially at this time of year.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 56oz0.html


I'm sitting here in Sydney just feeling frustrated. Nothing that I can do to avoid whatever happens, frustrated someone did the wrong thing etc. At least NSW has expereince in tracing and closing clusters quickly, but the other point know is block the leak in the system.


Agreed. Although I’m not flying or going interstate, it’s just frustrating that these entitled people have ruined it for everyone.

I purposely did the right thing to ensure I didn’t catch the virus and also to avoid unknowingly spreading it if I did. Very disappointing.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:39 pm

so for the VIC border restrictions -I am from VIC and I am staying over Xmas in a green zone but have to travel by car/train through a orange zone to Sydney airport to fly back to VIC after Xmas, do I have to get tested and self quarantine? It's all a bit up in the air as even the airlines don't know :shock:
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:06 am

a36001 wrote:
so for the VIC border restrictions -I am from VIC and I am staying over Xmas in a green zone but have to travel by car/train through a orange zone to Sydney airport to fly back to VIC after Xmas, do I have to get tested and self quarantine? It's all a bit up in the air as even the airlines don't know :shock:


Announcement will come later today, but almost certainly sounds like you'll be doing 14 days hotel quarantine if you fly back to MEL from SYD. Hard border with NSW also being discussed down here. Best to keep an eye on Melbourne media & be prepared to head back ASAP....
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:20 am

Kent350787 wrote:
zkncj wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:
Another batch of used E190-E1 found a new operator:

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/a ... 73.article

Excerpt:

“The 100-seat jet aircraft market globally will rebound quickly as carriers look to focus on total trip costs rather than traditional metrics.”
According to Alliance, the aircraft were previously operated by American Airlines and are configured with 99 seats across two classes.
Alliance will receive these over an 11-month period, starting with five this month and one a month until November 2021."

Those aircrafts will join the previous 14 E190-E1 that was acquired on 3 August from US-based lessor Azorra Aviation. These planes used to fly to Copa Airlines.


What is Alliance planning todo with all those e190s?


It appears to be contract work for VA


Agree, given that VA have decided to keep the CBR lounge open and currently have a terrible schedule in to CBR, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few E190s in CBR soon enough.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:50 am

t's back to the future for Virgin (with the E190). I'm wondering whether these planes might get a Virgin/hybrid livery as I'd imagine half the time they'll be operated for Virgin.

I do see a similar situation to National Jet Systems with the service looking like a regular Virgin one, but all the services operated by Alliance.

I'd think that this is unlikely at this stage as it reduces the flexibility that Alliance has in its fleet and probably would increase the cost of the wet-lease service to VA.

It appears to be contract work for VA

In addition, I do think Alliance are starting a plan that will see the F100s begin to leave the fleet and be replaced by E90s. The F100s are now all approaching 30 years old and parts are not easily obtained with Alliance typically accessing rotables by breaking up planes.

With VA having said they will return to the Tasman once two way boarders are open.

Could they contract some of these routes out to QQ? asumming the cost base of an QQ wet lease is appealing compared to mainline?

An 100 seater, could be the right size fit for there re-entry onto routes like SYD/MEL-WLG/CHC.

I am unsure if the E90s are equipped for overwater flights of around 3 hours. Frequency is not so critical on flights such as trans-Tasman compared with domestic services between capitals so I tend to think VA will be happy to use its own 737s across the ditch even it means flight frequency is less than daily.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:50 pm

soyuz wrote:


Smart move... However I am surprised that ALLIANCE will keep the original configuration. The sub-fleet of ex AA will have a different layout and seats compared to the ex COPA models...
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:49 pm

debonair wrote:
soyuz wrote:


Smart move... However I am surprised that ALLIANCE will keep the original configuration. The sub-fleet of ex AA will have a different layout and seats compared to the ex COPA models...


You'll probably find that the ex-AA fleet with will allocated to VA services as they there primary role.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:27 am

First pic of Rex 737 VH-VOP
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJCzyvQhCMX ... g8h2d62bqg

Note the location
Which country is their heart in again?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:20 am

a36001 wrote:
so for the VIC border restrictions -I am from VIC and I am staying over Xmas in a green zone but have to travel by car/train through a orange zone to Sydney airport to fly back to VIC after Xmas, do I have to get tested and self quarantine? It's all a bit up in the air as even the airlines don't know :shock:


There are no orange zones now (they have all turned red) so you would need to do mandatory hotel quarantine if arriving after midnight tonight as unlike other states if you travel through the zone you are classed in that zone.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:34 am

moa999 wrote:
First pic of Rex 737 VH-VOP
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJCzyvQhCMX ... g8h2d62bqg

Note the location
Which country is their heart in again?


I find it weird they are using that slogan on the 737 domestic jets. Flying domestic trunk routes and saying your heart is in the country is not really selling it for me. They also missed an opportunity to intro a refreshed livery.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:49 am

anstar wrote:
moa999 wrote:
First pic of Rex 737 VH-VOP
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJCzyvQhCMX ... g8h2d62bqg

Note the location
Which country is their heart in again?


I find it weird they are using that slogan on the 737 domestic jets. Flying domestic trunk routes and saying your heart is in the country is not really selling it for me. They also missed an opportunity to intro a refreshed livery.

They're probably waiting for a grant to pay for the design of a new livery; they love a subsidy at Rex.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:49 am

anstar wrote:
moa999 wrote:
First pic of Rex 737 VH-VOP
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJCzyvQhCMX ... g8h2d62bqg

Note the location
Which country is their heart in again?


I find it weird they are using that slogan on the 737 domestic jets. Flying domestic trunk routes and saying your heart is in the country is not really selling it for me. They also missed an opportunity to intro a refreshed livery.


I fully agree here. They missed the opportunity to bring something new in / refresh the livery, didn't have to be a massive change of course but an odd slogan for introducing trunk routes
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:00 am

Might be in the minority here but I actually quite like the livery. Looks smart on the 737.

Never thought I'd see the day when a REX livery was painted on a jet this size.

The country reference doesn't bother me either. Country hospitality and service is generally known to be warmer and more personal than that experienced in the larger cities. Although Brissy folk aren't too bad. In Sydney, you're lucky to get a grunt out of some service staff and saying hello to people provokes stares of confusion or fear.

Good luck to REX. Hope it works out.
Keen to book tickets when Brisbane is launched.


mrkerr7474 wrote:
anstar wrote:
moa999 wrote:
First pic of Rex 737 VH-VOP
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJCzyvQhCMX ... g8h2d62bqg

Note the location
Which country is their heart in again?


I find it weird they are using that slogan on the 737 domestic jets. Flying domestic trunk routes and saying your heart is in the country is not really selling it for me. They also missed an opportunity to intro a refreshed livery.


I fully agree here. They missed the opportunity to bring something new in / refresh the livery, didn't have to be a massive change of course but an odd slogan for introducing trunk routes
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:33 pm

I actually really enjoy the slogan, I think it’s a smart marketing tool to differentiate themselves from the slightly pretentious branding of Qantas, or the “hipster” vibe Virgin plays on. Pays a nice homage to their roots as a company.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:54 pm

anstar wrote:
I find it weird they are using that slogan on the 737 domestic jets. Flying domestic trunk routes and saying your heart is in the country is not really selling it for me. They also missed an opportunity to intro a refreshed livery.


A refreshed livery would have been a mistake and would have had the possibility of alienating their existing customer base. "Oh look, Rex has gone all city slicker!", that kind of thing. Plus the Rex livery is easy to recognise so I think it's best that it stays as it is. Besides, if it all goes to hell in a handbasket, then it would have been money wasted for nothing. Rex seem smart and aren't wasting cash on unnecessary items.

Cost creep over the years is one reason why Virgin Australia failed, after all. Too many big ideas sometimes mean things get out of control. Keep it simple, stay focused on the mission at hand and make money. If Rex does this, they'll do well. The moment some idiot decides Rex should go international, trans-Tasman, domestic NZ, Pacific Islands - it's all over.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:40 am

Looks better than I was expecting tbh. I still think the country slogan is the wrong one for intercapital trunk routes, only reason its there IMO is to fill in the empty white front of the fuselage which looks huge on the 738 with the whole livery basically sitting at the back.

The Rex logo on the belly looks backwards to me. I know it depends which way you’re looking at it but going from back to front seems illogical to me.

I like that they painted the inside of the winglets!
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:05 am

I think the livery looks pretty good actually, Perhaps they could have switched the logo to the front and the slogan to the back though
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - December 2020

Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:39 am

moa999 wrote:
First pic of Rex 737 VH-VOP
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJCzyvQhCMX ... g8h2d62bqg

Note the location
Which country is their heart in again?


In the Insta pics, the tail colours show it more red than orange and my first thought was BA.

I don’t think their slogan is that bad. If anything it can been seen as a clever play on words. As an Aussie you’d immediately think country refers to REX’s roots, regional Australia; country Australia.

Foreigners may perceive the slogan, “Our heart is in the country”, as referring to the country of Australia in its entirety. Conversely, our heart is in Australia.

I’m still quite interested to see what theyve done with the insides of the 737.

On a lighter note, because of their white, blue and orange colour scheme, I wonder how long it is before we settle on the nickname, Aldi Air. :spin: :biggrin:
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