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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:20 pm

scandinavian590 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
It may appear that SAS har choosen Embraers, either E1 or E2, for their new "SAS Mid-size" company and they now are looking for a: "TEAM & FLEET MANAGER EMBRAER"


They specifically look for someone with E195 E1 experience

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/2729537057

In addition to this, Xfly (Nordica, formerly Regional Jet) seems to have four E195 jets on order. I see a pattern here, just as SAS did with their CRJ's.

Source: https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Xfl ... d-e190.htm


Aren't these Xfly's Embraers meant for LOT services starting from winter schedule? Or is their relationship is more or less finished?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:13 pm

Icelandic PLAY launches KEF-AMS from December 3, 2021:

- KEF 06:10 - AMS 10.40 OG 460 A320 Mon, Fri
- AMS 11.35 - KEF 14.00 OG 461 A320 Mon, Fri

Third carrier on the route this winter: FI 7x B763, HV 4x weekly B738, OG 2x weekly A320

https://flyplay.com/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:11 pm

I do have to say that I like the E-jet more than the CRJ. Flown on both. The E-Jet cabin is a perfect fit for me. The CRJ felt a bit crapped when moving in the aisle when boarding and deboarding...
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:00 pm

teme82 wrote:
I do have to say that I like the E-jet more than the CRJ. Flown on both. The E-Jet cabin is a perfect fit for me. The CRJ felt a bit crapped when moving in the aisle when boarding and deboarding...

Your observation is correct. The E-Jet cabin is exactly 9 ft wide, which is 7.5 in wider than the CRJ. It's a lot in a 2x2 cabin. Headroom in the aisle is 4 in higher on the E-Jet - 6 ft 7 in vs 6 ft 3 in.

The most serious difference, however, seems to be the overhead bin volume. When I have been on a CRJ, and the load factor wasn't sub-50, then it usually took forever to convince passengers to gatecheck their carryons. The E-Jet on the other hand seems to have overhead bin volume per pax very much on par with ordinary 737 or A320 standard.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:21 pm

Finnair Agrees to Sale and Leaseback of Four Airbus A350 Aircraft

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/finna ... 1632811769

"The Finnish carrier said the deal won't have a significant effect on its operating result for the third quarter of 2021, but the immediate positive cash effect for Finnair is in excess of $400 million, with the cash to be used to refinance existing debt and retire the undrawn revolving credit facility of 175 million euros ($205 million)."

So they get 100 million plus for each of the A350's.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:13 pm

SAS Ireland will be renamed to "SAS Connect" and the new SAS Midsize (E195 operator) will be named "SAS Link".
Link in Danish:
https://finalcall.travel/da/sig-velkomm ... -sas-link/
 
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Re: Eurowings with ARN base

Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:00 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
How bad is SAS? Just curious. Interesting to see the reactions above

In Swedish domestic flight, they're basically a pricier DY with free hot drinks in my opinion. AY short haul is basically the same with SK, but sometime they can be much cheaper if you don't mind the long transfer. But HEL is a nice airport to spend your time, lots of seats and power outlets.

Never flew long haul with SAS, only AY. Their A350's long haul product in Y is by far, the best I've ever had. Good food (better Asian meal than CX), good hard products, and their HK cabin crew was excellent.

Another plus point for AY from me: their boarding and safety video tune is really really good and set up the mood really well for the flight.
 
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Re: Eurowings with ARN base

Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:56 pm

trent768 wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
How bad is SAS? Just curious. Interesting to see the reactions above

In Swedish domestic flight, they're basically a pricier DY with free hot drinks in my opinion. AY short haul is basically the same with SK, but sometime they can be much cheaper if you don't mind the long transfer. But HEL is a nice airport to spend your time, lots of seats and power outlets.

Never flew long haul with SAS, only AY. Their A350's long haul product in Y is by far, the best I've ever had. Good food (better Asian meal than CX), good hard products, and their HK cabin crew was excellent.

Another plus point for AY from me: their boarding and safety video tune is really really good and set up the mood really well for the flight.

I've been working for SK over 12 years. They were racing to the bottom already in the beginning of 2000' I loved the company but they didn't love the employees and even less the passengers. Being in high cost countries helped the LCC to win more and more shares of traffic. Unfortunately I have seen same phenomenon worldwide. I left aviation for banking. Better stay closer to the money ;)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:16 pm

I understand that in July 2021, Finavia transferred Enontekio airport to the local municipality. I believe this is largely because Finavia didn't want to spend the money on repairing the runway which had reached its end of life - it seems that the local Govt decided they were happy to spend some money to keep the airport open, along with some cash from central Govt
Does anyone know what is planned for Enontekio airport's future ? Is it intended to stay open just for ad-hoc charters - namely Dec visits to Santa as well as Jan+Feb to visit reindeer and huskies ? Or is it intended to have year round traffic, or even proper regular scheduled flights again ? Maybe a PSO involved ?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:23 pm

Vueling is starting 2x weekly ORY-BGO from early November
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:52 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Vueling is starting 2x weekly ORY-BGO from early November


You forgot ORY-ARN, BLL, GOT
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:08 pm

New ski/alp destinations for Flyr announced today, operating January-March: Munich, Genève, Salzburg, Milan Bergamo 2x weekly and Grenoble 1x weekly
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:12 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
I understand that in July 2021, Finavia transferred Enontekio airport to the local municipality. I believe this is largely because Finavia didn't want to spend the money on repairing the runway which had reached its end of life - it seems that the local Govt decided they were happy to spend some money to keep the airport open, along with some cash from central Govt
Does anyone know what is planned for Enontekio airport's future ? Is it intended to stay open just for ad-hoc charters - namely Dec visits to Santa as well as Jan+Feb to visit reindeer and huskies ? Or is it intended to have year round traffic, or even proper regular scheduled flights again ? Maybe a PSO involved ?


Yeah, Enontekiö's (ENF) future is highly uncertain. The government has given the local community some considerable money for investing in the overhaul of the runway and facilities, but after that, you'd actually need some flights and passengers.

How to get those? The problem of ENF is that unlike near other airports in Lapland (RVN, KTT, IVL, KAO), there is no popular ski resort/tourist spot nearby. Basically, the area is pretty much just rural wilderness with a small village nearby. The Enontekiö county covers an area of 8 391,31 km2, with only 1 818 inhabitants. So there is really neither meaningful enough tourism demand, nor really any justification for PSO (not an island etc, and is connected by good-quality roads).

Before COVID, if my memory serves me correctly, ENF's traffic consisted only of a charter flight series from the UK flown by Enter Air. I assume that the county is hoping for those charters to continue in the future too, although the pandemic has obviously decreased this likelihood. At one point the county did initiate their own PSO program to have 2/week flights to HEL during winter/spring months by guaranteeing to buy a certain amount of seats, and while I wouldn't count out that they would do this in the future again, the practice did not really appear to make much sense.

Of course, I hope that the airport would manage to attract more traffic in the future, but so far I remain doubtful.
 
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Re: Eurowings with ARN base

Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:03 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
How bad is SAS? Just curious. Interesting to see the reactions above


I'm a little late to the party, but I must say I don't share the hatrid for SAS short haul. Compared to other European flag carriers, I think they're amongst the best. I've always found all of their narrowbodies to be very modern and comfortable unlike a good few top-class European legacies, plus I think they're one of the last airlines to offer free refreshments on European short haul flights. I know the bar in Europe is pretty low, and it's definitely not what it was a few years ago, but considering the alternatives SAS's short haul product isn't too bad.
 
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Re: Eurowings with ARN base

Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:45 pm

TexasAirCorp wrote:
jfklganyc wrote:
How bad is SAS? Just curious. Interesting to see the reactions above


I'm a little late to the party, but I must say I don't share the hatrid for SAS short haul. Compared to other European flag carriers, I think they're amongst the best. I've always found all of their narrowbodies to be very modern and comfortable unlike a good few top-class European legacies, plus I think they're one of the last airlines to offer free refreshments on European short haul flights. I know the bar in Europe is pretty low, and it's definitely not what it was a few years ago, but considering the alternatives SAS's short haul product isn't too bad.


SAS offered free tea or coffee in short haul. It was suspended during COVID. Not sure if it’s back. And the food in Plus class or that you could buy was awful. Just visit FlyerTalk and read the forum on SAS food. Finnair offered more, BA give you water and crisps. Air France/KLM offer much more. SAS short haul is mediocre especially plus class.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:46 pm

Arlanda Terminal 2 to reopen from end of October 2021
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:52 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Arlanda Terminal 2 to reopen from end of October 2021


Will it be the same airlines as before operating from there? Or are Ryanair heading there?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:20 am

seansasLCY wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Arlanda Terminal 2 to reopen from end of October 2021


Will it be the same airlines as before operating from there? Or are Ryanair heading there?


Startup will be with the following 5 airlines:
Air France
KLM
Transavia
Czech Airlines
Easyjet
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:36 pm

Are there any news to when Norwegian will start to fly Gothenburg-London again. Was trying to get tickets (any airline) for November but there are very few flights going between the two cities.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:41 pm

In mid Nov, BA fly daily LHR-GOT, while FR fly 5x weekly STN-GOT
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:21 am

SK will open a new route for W21. ARNKBP on Thursdays SK2712/2715, departing from ARN 09:45 and back at ARN 15:35 (local). This will complement their OSLKBP that currently operates Tuesdays and Saturdays. First flight for ARNKBP is 4th of November.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:04 pm

Flyr's 4th aircraft is scheduled for delivery today. LN-DYS, former Norwegian LN-DYS/EI-FHW

From Skyliner:
Boeing 737 -8JP 39007 3665 LN-DYS Flyr delivery 07oct21 OSR-OSL ex EI-FHW
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:41 pm

Ryanair adds Stockholm Arlanda - Venice with 2 weekly flights from 29th of March 2022.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:15 pm

Sweden is lifting the ban on Brits from 11th Oct (provided they are fully vaccinated) so perhaps we’ll see an increase in services. BA and SAS are still massively down on pre pandemic services but both BA flights I took recently were completely full in Business (788 with 7 rows of J and 14 rows on a A321neo).
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:28 pm

seansasLCY wrote:
Sweden is lifting the ban on Brits from 11th Oct (provided they are fully vaccinated) so perhaps we’ll see an increase in services. BA and SAS are still massively down on pre pandemic services but both BA flights I took recently were completely full in Business (788 with 7 rows of J and 14 rows on a A321neo).


Sean, have you got a link for this please.?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:04 pm

TUGMASTER wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
Sweden is lifting the ban on Brits from 11th Oct (provided they are fully vaccinated) so perhaps we’ll see an increase in services. BA and SAS are still massively down on pre pandemic services but both BA flights I took recently were completely full in Business (788 with 7 rows of J and 14 rows on a A321neo).


Sean, have you got a link for this please.?


https://www.government.se/press-release ... quirement/

“ The Government today adopted amendments to the temporary ban on entry into Sweden. The changes mean that travellers who can present a vaccine certificate issued in the UK will be exempt from the ban on entry to Sweden and the COVID-19 test requirement… The amendments enter into force on 11 October.“
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:17 pm

X2K wrote:
Ryanair adds Stockholm Arlanda - Venice with 2 weekly flights from 29th of March 2022.

According to lentoposti.fi also HEL-VCE double weekly will be open https://www.lentoposti.fi/uutiset/ryana ... ikkovuoroa.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:01 pm

seansasLCY wrote:
TUGMASTER wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
Sweden is lifting the ban on Brits from 11th Oct (provided they are fully vaccinated) so perhaps we’ll see an increase in services. BA and SAS are still massively down on pre pandemic services but both BA flights I took recently were completely full in Business (788 with 7 rows of J and 14 rows on a A321neo).


Sean, have you got a link for this please.?


https://www.government.se/press-release ... quirement/

“ The Government today adopted amendments to the temporary ban on entry into Sweden. The changes mean that travellers who can present a vaccine certificate issued in the UK will be exempt from the ban on entry to Sweden and the COVID-19 test requirement… The amendments enter into force on 11 October.“


Tack så mycket
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:21 pm

SAS flights ARN ORD

Looking in SAS online it seems that the non stop flight starts again in Feb next year with an A330.
Does anyone know if this is going to happen, or is it just an idea.
We are expecting to import a dog from USA, and Chicago is the best departure point, and I have used it before.
An A330 is really needed for the space in Hold 5 (not happy with an A321 that far)
Don't want to book something in March, and then find it is rerouted via CPH or OSL.
Need to arrive at ARN to get the dog into Sweden, and ARN T5 are used to it.

Any comments welcome
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:27 pm

Today, October 8th 2021, marks the 20th anniversary of the loss of SAS flight SK686.
Flight 686 was a scheduled flight from Milan/Linate (Italy) to Copenhagen (Denmark) with 110 passengers and crew on board. During takeoff it collided with a Cessna Citation with 4 passengers and crew on board. All 114 on board the aircraft died as well as 4 on ground died.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:41 pm

Great Dane has declared themselves bankrupt and will cease flying

In Danish:
https://check-in.dk/great-dane-airlines ... g-konkurs/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:33 pm

Tristarsteve wrote:
SAS flights ARN ORD

Looking in SAS online it seems that the non stop flight starts again in Feb next year with an A330.
Does anyone know if this is going to happen, or is it just an idea.
We are expecting to import a dog from USA, and Chicago is the best departure point, and I have used it before.
An A330 is really needed for the space in Hold 5 (not happy with an A321 that far)
Don't want to book something in March, and then find it is rerouted via CPH or OSL.
Need to arrive at ARN to get the dog into Sweden, and ARN T5 are used to it.

Any comments welcome


I don’t think any schedules to anywhere are fixed at the moment. Maybe wait and see how the US reopening goes and then decide because right now everything is still changing regularly.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:38 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Great Dane has declared themselves bankrupt and will cease flying

In Danish:
https://check-in.dk/great-dane-airlines ... g-konkurs/


Did they have any scheduled flights by the end of their existence?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:39 pm

Blerg wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Great Dane has declared themselves bankrupt and will cease flying

In Danish:
https://check-in.dk/great-dane-airlines ... g-konkurs/


Did they have any scheduled flights by the end of their existence?

They did only charter work with three E195, mostly for tour operator Bravo Tours.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:51 am

prebennorholm wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Great Dane has declared themselves bankrupt and will cease flying

In Danish:
https://check-in.dk/great-dane-airlines ... g-konkurs/


Did they have any scheduled flights by the end of their existence?

They did only charter work with three E195, mostly for tour operator Bravo Tours.


Thank you. However, if I remember correctly they used to operate some scheduled flights at first?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:12 am

Great Dane - another airline in the doghouse...

Comes in handy for SAS as they are building up an Embraer 195 fleet as part of project Midsize...
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:23 am

I think Sunclass or Jettime (not SAS) are likely to gain most from Great Dane closing
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:26 am

I was not talking about their business, but about their hardware. The E195 are, IIRC, owned by the billionaire guy behind Great Dane and although he has let it be known that he is now done with the airline business, he still needs to dump his toys somewhere.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:59 am

vfw614 wrote:
I was not talking about their business, but about their hardware. The E195 are, IIRC, owned by the billionaire guy behind Great Dane and although he has let it be known that he is now done with the airline business, he still needs to dump his toys somewhere.


All the aircraft was leased, from Propius Leasing. Which I do believe has some connection to Stobart Group?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:08 am

Is that the case? Proprius Leasing apparently only has (Stobart) ATR72 in its books:

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Propius-Leasing
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:52 am

Play has announced 2x weekly to SVG, TRD and GOT next summer

In Norwegian:
https://kommunikasjon.ntb.no/pressemeld ... d=17917713
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:24 pm

First routes fro Flyr that not starts at OSL has been announced and open for sale

TRD-TOS; 4x weekly from Dec 9th
TRD-ALC: 1x weekly from FEB 22nd, increased to 2x weekly from Mid-March
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:42 pm

Copenhagen Airport - September 2021:

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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:00 pm

I am surprised that AAL is on top, considering that distances between cities are short in Denmark..Isn't train a better alternative to travel to AAR,AAL, BLL from CPH?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:40 pm

marcogr12 wrote:
I am surprised that AAL is on top, considering that distances between cities are short in Denmark..Isn't train a better alternative to travel to AAR,AAL, BLL from CPH?

BLL (the catchment area not Billund itself) and AAR yes. The rest? Not really. Due to the geography all trains going to Jutland from Copenhagen need to take a detour across the Great Belt link. The fastest travel time by train between Copenhagen and Aalborg is 4 hours and 23 minutes.
 
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Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:50 pm

Flyr has ordered 6 brand new 737-8 for leasing through ALC, with an option of 4 more.

In Norwegian:

https://frequentflyer.no/2021/10/12/fly ... ra-boeing/
 
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Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:55 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Great Dane has declared themselves bankrupt and will cease flying

In Danish:
https://check-in.dk/great-dane-airlines ... g-konkurs/

I thought that the Bamboo contract would give Great Dane sometime to breath but...sad story.
 
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Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:58 am

Antaras wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Great Dane has declared themselves bankrupt and will cease flying

In Danish:
https://check-in.dk/great-dane-airlines ... g-konkurs/

I thought that the Bamboo contract would give Great Dane sometime to breath but...sad story.


While it did, they claimed the coming winter looked poor in terms of sales/contracts
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:46 am

SASViking wrote:
marcogr12 wrote:
I am surprised that AAL is on top, considering that distances between cities are short in Denmark..Isn't train a better alternative to travel to AAR,AAL, BLL from CPH?

BLL (the catchment area not Billund itself) and AAR yes. The rest? Not really. Due to the geography all trains going to Jutland from Copenhagen need to take a detour across the Great Belt link. The fastest travel time by train between Copenhagen and Aalborg is 4 hours and 23 minutes.


AAL also has 3 operators (SK, DAT & DY) and total market production is higher than 2019 levels.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation 2021

Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:21 am

SASViking wrote:
marcogr12 wrote:
I am surprised that AAL is on top, considering that distances between cities are short in Denmark..Isn't train a better alternative to travel to AAR,AAL, BLL from CPH?

BLL (the catchment area not Billund itself) and AAR yes. The rest? Not really. Due to the geography all trains going to Jutland from Copenhagen need to take a detour across the Great Belt link. The fastest travel time by train between Copenhagen and Aalborg is 4 hours and 23 minutes.


Nevertheless, many domestic routes have disappeared since the Great Belt bridge / tunnel opened - from the top of my head, Vojens, Esbjerg, Thisted, Stauning, Skive, Sindal, Odense (admittedly Skive and Sindal did not have a long history of CPH services). And Karup is also a shadow of its formel self. I guess the problem of AAR is also its location far away from the city that makes the train even more competitive.

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