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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:15 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
Ok so I’m going to ask this again. When are we seeing the max 10 in the air ?


Mid 2021 at the earliest.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:16 pm

RobK wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
Other flight line updates:
A10 N7205U WN MAX 7
A9 N7204U WN MAX 7
A7 N8750Q WN MAX 8
A6 EMPTY
A5 VP-BXH S7 MAX 8
A4 TC-SOJ Sun Express MAX 8
A3 P8 - Did engine run but was cut early as the blue lights signifying high winds went on during run.

So a lot of shifting. Not sure how many of these will actually be getting prepped or just being rotated around.


Any sign of P8 169564 yet? It's a complete mystery what has become of that one. Should have flown mid last year but no sightings by anyone. I wonder if it's suffered some damage. They're already way past it and latest one to fly was 169569 (the one you saw).

Any sighting of G-TUMK? Wondering what name it's wearing. Came back from storage the other day and parked in B14 at BFI, opposite the touch-up tents. Should be able to read it off from the road outside as there's a gap between the 2 tents, or even through the tent itself if the back is open :) .

All the UA backlog delivered now. I wonder if the -10 will fly before their first -8? Their first -8 is in the low 8000s.


Have we had any confirmation on United Max 8’s? I’ve seen a lot of speculation but nothing firm/confirmed.

And if that’s the one that came in on Wednesday from Texas I got it. Will take a look later today and get back to you.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:18 pm

seahawks7757 wrote:
RobK wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
Other flight line updates:
A10 N7205U WN MAX 7
A9 N7204U WN MAX 7
A7 N8750Q WN MAX 8
A6 EMPTY
A5 VP-BXH S7 MAX 8
A4 TC-SOJ Sun Express MAX 8
A3 P8 - Did engine run but was cut early as the blue lights signifying high winds went on during run.

So a lot of shifting. Not sure how many of these will actually be getting prepped or just being rotated around.


Any sign of P8 169564 yet? It's a complete mystery what has become of that one. Should have flown mid last year but no sightings by anyone. I wonder if it's suffered some damage. They're already way past it and latest one to fly was 169569 (the one you saw).

Any sighting of G-TUMK? Wondering what name it's wearing. Came back from storage the other day and parked in B14 at BFI, opposite the touch-up tents. Should be able to read it off from the road outside as there's a gap between the 2 tents, or even through the tent itself if the back is open :) .

All the UA backlog delivered now. I wonder if the -10 will fly before their first -8? Their first -8 is in the low 8000s.


Have we had any confirmation on United Max 8’s? I’ve seen a lot of speculation but nothing firm/confirmed.

And if that’s the one that came in on Wednesday from Texas I got it. Will take a look later today and get back to you.


United? I think they only have 9 and 10’s on order
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:55 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
RobK wrote:

Any sign of P8 169564 yet? It's a complete mystery what has become of that one. Should have flown mid last year but no sightings by anyone. I wonder if it's suffered some damage. They're already way past it and latest one to fly was 169569 (the one you saw).

Any sighting of G-TUMK? Wondering what name it's wearing. Came back from storage the other day and parked in B14 at BFI, opposite the touch-up tents. Should be able to read it off from the road outside as there's a gap between the 2 tents, or even through the tent itself if the back is open :) .

All the UA backlog delivered now. I wonder if the -10 will fly before their first -8? Their first -8 is in the low 8000s.


Have we had any confirmation on United Max 8’s? I’ve seen a lot of speculation but nothing firm/confirmed.

And if that’s the one that came in on Wednesday from Texas I got it. Will take a look later today and get back to you.


United? I think they only have 9 and 10’s on order

Officially they have only talked about 9 and 10 but there have been murmurs about them quietly taking 8s too (that started even before the grounding).
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:44 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
RobK wrote:

Any sign of P8 169564 yet? It's a complete mystery what has become of that one. Should have flown mid last year but no sightings by anyone. I wonder if it's suffered some damage. They're already way past it and latest one to fly was 169569 (the one you saw).

Any sighting of G-TUMK? Wondering what name it's wearing. Came back from storage the other day and parked in B14 at BFI, opposite the touch-up tents. Should be able to read it off from the road outside as there's a gap between the 2 tents, or even through the tent itself if the back is open :) .

All the UA backlog delivered now. I wonder if the -10 will fly before their first -8? Their first -8 is in the low 8000s.


Have we had any confirmation on United Max 8’s? I’ve seen a lot of speculation but nothing firm/confirmed.

And if that’s the one that came in on Wednesday from Texas I got it. Will take a look later today and get back to you.


United? I think they only have 9 and 10’s on order



Same here but I’ve seen multiple people claiming now that they have -8’s on order. But nothing firm anywhere to confirm it.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:50 pm

They have -8's on order. The last time I saw the firing order this is what I was able to capture. But may have changed with the cancelled orders and shuffling of frames.

8075 43932 N27252 737-8 United Airlines
8092 43930 N27253 737-8 United Airlines
8104 43436 N17254 737-8 United Airlines
8119 43440 N27255 737-8 United Airlines
8126 64447 N27256 737-8 United Airlines
8133 43442 N37257 737-8 United Airlines
8139 66593 N27258 737-8 United Airlines
8143 43462 N77259 737-8 United Airlines
8151 43458 N27260 737-8 United Airlines
8153 43464 N27261 737-8 United Airlines
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:03 am

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Have we had any confirmation on United Max 8’s? I’ve seen a lot of speculation but nothing firm/confirmed.


15 -8s coming in relatively quick succession :spin: . 8035 should be 1st one. Woody, many of those allocations have changed beyond your 1st 3 but there's a lot of switching happening with the frames at the moment so don't want to commit by posting a list in case I end up with egg on my face :mrgreen: .
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:41 am

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
They have -8's on order. The last time I saw the firing order this is what I was able to capture. But may have changed with the cancelled orders and shuffling of frames.

8075 43932 N27252 737-8 United Airlines
8092 43930 N27253 737-8 United Airlines
8104 43436 N17254 737-8 United Airlines
8119 43440 N27255 737-8 United Airlines
8126 64447 N27256 737-8 United Airlines
8133 43442 N37257 737-8 United Airlines
8139 66593 N27258 737-8 United Airlines
8143 43462 N77259 737-8 United Airlines
8151 43458 N27260 737-8 United Airlines
8153 43464 N27261 737-8 United Airlines



So odd that they never issued a press release or confirmed it with anyone.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:44 am

RobK wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
Other flight line updates:
A10 N7205U WN MAX 7
A9 N7204U WN MAX 7
A7 N8750Q WN MAX 8
A6 EMPTY
A5 VP-BXH S7 MAX 8
A4 TC-SOJ Sun Express MAX 8
A3 P8 - Did engine run but was cut early as the blue lights signifying high winds went on during run.

So a lot of shifting. Not sure how many of these will actually be getting prepped or just being rotated around.


Any sign of P8 169564 yet? It's a complete mystery what has become of that one. Should have flown mid last year but no sightings by anyone. I wonder if it's suffered some damage. They're already way past it and latest one to fly was 169569 (the one you saw).

Any sighting of G-TUMK? Wondering what name it's wearing. Came back from storage the other day and parked in B14 at BFI, opposite the touch-up tents. Should be able to read it off from the road outside as there's a gap between the 2 tents, or even through the tent itself if the back is open :) .

All the UA backlog delivered now. I wonder if the -10 will fly before their first -8? Their first -8 is in the low 8000s.



So MK returned with the name Ibiza. Engine covers were Tui. Will try to post photos tomorrow. Before bed tonight WH002 and N17529 delivery. Unfortunately fallen a little behind with the snow and with work.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:36 am

seahawks7757 wrote:
So MK returned with the name Ibiza. Engine covers were Tui. Will try to post photos tomorrow. Before bed tonight WH002 and N17529 delivery. Unfortunately fallen a little behind with the snow and with work.

Thanks for the info Brandon and also for sharing the latest 737 and 777-9 pics in the other thread! Seems to be quite a bit of activity with the UK TUIs recently so could be leaving the nest soon. :thumbsup:
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:09 pm

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I’ve heard a rumor 8703 won’t be delivered to SWA, again just a rumor, not sure if true.


Just to bump this as it seems to have slipped off the page unnoticed. This site has a lot of WN people. Do we have any WN ops people who can comment on this "rumor"? What would their reason be for not taking the final prototype frame as they have done with the other 3? :confused:
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:52 pm

RobK wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
Have we had any confirmation on United Max 8’s? I’ve seen a lot of speculation but nothing firm/confirmed.


15 -8s coming in relatively quick succession :spin: . 8035 should be 1st one. Woody, many of those allocations have changed beyond your 1st 3 but there's a lot of switching happening with the frames at the moment so don't want to commit by posting a list in case I end up with egg on my face :mrgreen: .


Yeah - I figured that they would be outdated. That list was before the grounding and a lot of shuffling around in the firing order since. That's why it's not published on my site until confirmed.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:47 pm

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
They have -8's on order. The last time I saw the firing order this is what I was able to capture. But may have changed with the cancelled orders and shuffling of frames.

8075 43932 N27252 737-8 United Airlines
8092 43930 N27253 737-8 United Airlines
8104 43436 N17254 737-8 United Airlines
8119 43440 N27255 737-8 United Airlines
8126 64447 N27256 737-8 United Airlines
8133 43442 N37257 737-8 United Airlines
8139 66593 N27258 737-8 United Airlines
8143 43462 N77259 737-8 United Airlines
8151 43458 N27260 737-8 United Airlines
8153 43464 N27261 737-8 United Airlines


Updated data

8035 43931 N27251 737-8 United Airlines
8075 43932 N27252 737-8 United Airlines
8092 43930 N27253 737-8 United Airlines
8104 43436 N17254 737-8 United Airlines
8109 43440 N27255 737-8 United Airlines
8110 64447 N27256 737-8 United Airlines
8111 43442 N37257 737-8 United Airlines
8113 66593 N27258 737-8 United Airlines
8114 43462 N77259 737-8 United Airlines
8116 43458 737-8 United Airlines
8118 43464 N27261 737-8 United Airlines
8120 66594 737-8 United Airlines
8126 66595 737-8 United Airlines
8129 66596 737-8 United Airlines
8293 737-8 United Airlines
8304 737-8 United Airlines
8326 737-8 United Airlines
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:24 pm

Yes, situation very fluid at the moment with plenty of changes afoot and reshuffling going on.

I am aware of the following cancellations to become white tails, mainly huge cancellations by BOC, ALAFCO, Avolon and Aviation Capital Group, all transferred to Boeing ownership, including some direct airline cancellations.

Affected are:

Royal Air Maroc
SpiceJet
LOT Polish Airlines
SunExpress Deutschland
NordStar
BBJ customers x2 cancelled.
Air Europa
Corendon Airlines Europe
Utair Aviation
Oman Air
Mongolian Airlines
Eastar Jet
Gol Linhas Aéreas (looks like China Development Bank Finance are taking over (at least some of) the cancelled Avolon frame leases - see PR-XMM)
Ukraine International Airlines
Belavia Belarusian Airlines
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:16 am

RobK wrote:
SXDFC wrote:
I’ve heard a rumor 8703 won’t be delivered to SWA, again just a rumor, not sure if true.


Just to bump this as it seems to have slipped off the page unnoticed. This site has a lot of WN people. Do we have any WN ops people who can comment on this "rumor"? What would their reason be for not taking the final prototype frame as they have done with the other 3? :confused:



Still in full WN colors. Just shot it the other day.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:19 am

RobK wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
So MK returned with the name Ibiza. Engine covers were Tui. Will try to post photos tomorrow. Before bed tonight WH002 and N17529 delivery. Unfortunately fallen a little behind with the snow and with work.

Thanks for the info Brandon and also for sharing the latest 737 and 777-9 pics in the other thread! Seems to be quite a bit of activity with the UK TUIs recently so could be leaving the nest soon. :thumbsup:



No problem at all. All depends on work for me and how that works out since I work oncall. I’ve lucked out getting off in the mornings lately after working all night so just go hang out. Maybe take a nap

Also sounds like TUI will be the first in the UK to put it back into service. So not a surprise to see all this activity and will probably see them all deliver together shortly I’d guess. For some reason looks like NEO’s who supposedly ready for delivery went back to Renton the other day. Need to stop by and get it in the next couple days once I’m back from Portland.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:53 pm

Here is pics of the two TUI Aircraft that flew last Wednesday Feb 10. G-TUMK returning from San Antonio-

ImageG-TUMK TUI Airways Boeing 737 MAX 8 by Brandon Farris

ImageG-TUMK TUI Airways Boeing 737 MAX 8 by Brandon Farris

ImageG-TUMK TUI Airways Boeing 737 MAX 8 by Brandon Farris

G-TUMJ that went on a BFI-BFI as BOE870, as you can see the engine cowling has since been corrected since it came back from San Antonio back on January 30-

ImageG-TUMJ TUI Airways Boeing 737 MAX 8 by Brandon Farris

ImageG-TUMJ TUI Airways Boeing 737 MAX 8 by Brandon Farris

ImageG-TUMJ TUI Airways Boeing 737 MAX 8 by Brandon Farris

ImageG-TUMJ TUI Airways Boeing 737 MAX 8 by Brandon Farris
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:49 pm

seahawks7757 wrote:
RobK wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
So MK returned with the name Ibiza. Engine covers were Tui. Will try to post photos tomorrow. Before bed tonight WH002 and N17529 delivery. Unfortunately fallen a little behind with the snow and with work.

Thanks for the info Brandon and also for sharing the latest 737 and 777-9 pics in the other thread! Seems to be quite a bit of activity with the UK TUIs recently so could be leaving the nest soon. :thumbsup:



No problem at all. All depends on work for me and how that works out since I work oncall. I’ve lucked out getting off in the mornings lately after working all night so just go hang out. Maybe take a nap

Also sounds like TUI will be the first in the UK to put it back into service. So not a surprise to see all this activity and will probably see them all deliver together shortly I’d guess. For some reason looks like NEO’s who supposedly ready for delivery went back to Renton the other day. Need to stop by and get it in the next couple days once I’m back from Portland.


Neos went to Renton when BFI was closed due the gas leak.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:19 pm

Think that was probably just a coincidence, Woody, as it filed a flight plan at 7.30 am BFI-PAE-RNT.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:45 pm

Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time?
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:33 pm

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Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time?


Another Ural has rolled out. Only green plane at Renton yesterday.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:34 pm

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
RobK wrote:
Thanks for the info Brandon and also for sharing the latest 737 and 777-9 pics in the other thread! Seems to be quite a bit of activity with the UK TUIs recently so could be leaving the nest soon. :thumbsup:



No problem at all. All depends on work for me and how that works out since I work oncall. I’ve lucked out getting off in the mornings lately after working all night so just go hang out. Maybe take a nap

Also sounds like TUI will be the first in the UK to put it back into service. So not a surprise to see all this activity and will probably see them all deliver together shortly I’d guess. For some reason looks like NEO’s who supposedly ready for delivery went back to Renton the other day. Need to stop by and get it in the next couple days once I’m back from Portland.


Neos went to Renton when BFI was closed due the gas leak.



I’d agree except it was filed to Renton the entire time along with one other flight that day. It was originally parked on the west line and now in the back line with a bunch of Boeing peeps looking at the engines and looked like some kind of class going on. I posted a pic of it on Twitter. Need to edit one off the big camera tonight.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:17 am

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Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time?


Another Ural has rolled out. Only green plane at Renton yesterday.

If list is accurate that would be LN7945...
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:55 am

LGeneReese wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
LGeneReese wrote:
Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time?


Another Ural has rolled out. Only green plane at Renton yesterday.

If list is accurate that would be LN7945...



That sounds correct. Will look and post photo tonight along with neos.
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Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:03 am

LGeneReese wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
LGeneReese wrote:
Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time?


Another Ural has rolled out. Only green plane at Renton yesterday.

If list is accurate that would be LN7945...



So the greenie is 7967, we do have a painted URAL that is registered VP-BGO that appears to be 7945 on planespotters.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:26 pm

Nice pics Brandon. Btw P8 IN330 is out on the flight line in the usual stall.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:47 am

I was able to get away to grab some shots at RNT today.

XA-BBB 737-9 Aeromexico
ImageXA-BBB 737-9 Aeromexico by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7967 737-8 Ural Airlines
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7945 66148 VP-BGO 737-8 Ural Airlines
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Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:23 am

Also 7672 Somon Air NTU has been repainted for Blue Air wearing YR-MXB as the registration. No winglets installed.
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Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:39 am

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Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time?

It SEEMS that Boeing is cherry picking fuselages in the 7900-8000 region to complete for which airlines are willing to take delivery. For instance there is still no sightings for LNs 7904 to 7908 and many others after that, while Alaska (LN 7961) and Southwest (LN 7975) are already flying. Perhaps they are allocated to airlines like Xiamen, Jet Airways, Norwegian or a lessor who can't or couldn't care less to get them at this time, and they leave these fuselage unfinished on this moment. Eventually they will finish them of course.
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Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:21 am

MEA-707 wrote:
LGeneReese wrote:
Any info on what LNs are exiting the FAL at this time?

It SEEMS that Boeing is cherry picking fuselages in the 7900-8000 region to complete for which airlines are willing to take delivery. For instance there is still no sightings for LNs 7904 to 7908 and many others after that, while Alaska (LN 7961) and Southwest (LN 7975) are already flying. Perhaps they are allocated to airlines like Xiamen, Jet Airways, Norwegian or a lessor who can't or couldn't care less to get them at this time, and they leave these fuselage unfinished on this moment. Eventually they will finish them of course.

Any info as to where these LNs are being stored... RNT ? Spirt ? would have thought that many fuselages to draw the camera by now.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:52 am

Spirit yard and train sidings over there. They are only sending what Boeing tells them, based on the customer being able to take delivery AND fly it away. BFI is at capacity. As soon as one leaves, another comes out of storage to replace it.

@Woody thanks for the updates. How is your Old Man doing?
 
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Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:48 pm

Lucky Air B38M B-207Q was pinging at Victorville yesterday afternoon. China ban lifting imminent? Or being prepped for a new customer given Lucky Air is under the HNA Group umbrella?
 
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Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:33 pm

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Spirit yard and train sidings over there. They are only sending what Boeing tells them, based on the customer being able to take delivery AND fly it away. BFI is at capacity. As soon as one leaves, another comes out of storage to replace it.

@Woody thanks for the updates. How is your Old Man doing?


He is doing okay, my sister came over to sit with him so that I could make a trip to renton. She will do that again for me next Wednesday.
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Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:46 am

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Also 7672 Somon Air NTU has been repainted for Blue Air wearing YR-MXB as the registration. No winglets installed.


Interesting, glad I shot it the other when it was in the C Stalls at BFI.
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Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:49 am

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Lucky Air B38M B-207Q was pinging at Victorville yesterday afternoon. China ban lifting imminent? Or being prepped for a new customer given Lucky Air is under the HNA Group umbrella?



BOE053 departed VCV today and returned to the home nest of Renton. Of course the day I am off from work that was the only MAX to fly. Not worth the 30 minute drive up just for a southwest MAX 8 as bad as I want to get a MAX landing at Renton. Yesterday and the day before while working and in Portland a ton of MAX flew it seemed like. Just my luck, can't win the day before my birthday :banghead: :rotfl:
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Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:50 am

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I was able to get away to grab some shots at RNT today.



Also glad to see you were finally able to get a break and come out. I'll try to meet up with you next Wednesday if I am off.
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Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:57 am

Hopefully the first UA -8, LN8035, will be FAL...

I’m seeing P8s with LNs above 8200 as delivered.. are there truly hundreds of green hulls just sitting out in the open somewhere and no pictures...
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Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:02 pm

seahawks7757 wrote:
RobK wrote:
Lucky Air B38M B-207Q was pinging at Victorville yesterday afternoon. China ban lifting imminent? Or being prepped for a new customer given Lucky Air is under the HNA Group umbrella?



BOE053 departed VCV today and returned to the home nest of Renton. Of course the day I am off from work that was the only MAX to fly. Not worth the 30 minute drive up just for a southwest MAX 8 as bad as I want to get a MAX landing at Renton. Yesterday and the day before while working and in Portland a ton of MAX flew it seemed like. Just my luck, can't win the day before my birthday :banghead: :rotfl:


Happy birthday :birthday: :bigthumbsup: .

Most of the new WNs haven't been photographed yet so all fresh pics are welcome.

I was wondering why I couldn't find any pics of YR-MXB, but now it all makes sense.... :wink2:
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:25 pm

Hi everyone,

I look through this thread a few times a week and really appreciate the work that goes into it. As someone who doesn't really understand how the production and/or line numbers work, could someone help me out?

Taking a random selection (screenshot below) of MAX aircraft from the planespotters production list (7626-7640), why is it that there are two aircraft that are active and all the rest are still on order? Is this caused by the MAX groundings and/or COVID? If not, why are they being built/delivered out of order? I would really appreciate any insight into this!

EDIT - I've just seen this link https://737-max.blogspot.com/ and it seems planespotters just has the aircraft as 'on order' if they haven't been delivered. Thanks WoodysAeroimag - assuming this is your website?

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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:33 pm

Virginblue4 wrote:
Hi everyone,

I look through this thread a few times a week and really appreciate the work that goes into it. As someone who doesn't really understand how the production and/or line numbers work, could someone help me out?

Taking a random selection (screenshot below) of MAX aircraft from the planespotters production list (7626-7640), why is it that there are two aircraft that are active and all the rest are still on order? Is this caused by the MAX groundings and/or COVID? If not, why are they being built/delivered out of order? I would really appreciate any insight into this!

EDIT - I've just seen this link https://737-max.blogspot.com/ and it seems planespotters just has the aircraft as 'on order' if they haven't been delivered. Thanks WoodysAeroimag - assuming this is your website?

Image

As you say in your edit it’s a reflection of what has been delivered and what hasn’t. Max deliveries (and production) in terms of LN is currently all over the place as obviously Boeing is only delivering to customers who can operate the planes and are still customers. Which has generally meant that so far recent Max deliveries skew heavily towards US airlines as the US was an early lifter of the ban and most US airlines are willing and financially able to take the planes at the moment.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:40 am

TUI took its first MAX delivery post grounding I believe this afternoon, G-TUMJ! Is this the first Europe delivery flight too since the grounding was lifted?

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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:55 am

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SXDFC wrote:
I’ve heard a rumor 8703 won’t be delivered to SWA, again just a rumor, not sure if true.


Just to bump this as it seems to have slipped off the page unnoticed. This site has a lot of WN people. Do we have any WN ops people who can comment on this "rumor"? What would their reason be for not taking the final prototype frame as they have done with the other 3? :confused:

I've only heard rumors. I'll reach out to some people and see if I can find someone who knows. In the meantime, you might ask in the WN fleet thread. More WN posters watch that thread than this one, I think. Maybe someone over there knows for sure.
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Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:15 pm

Virginblue4 wrote:
Hi everyone,

I look through this thread a few times a week and really appreciate the work that goes into it. As someone who doesn't really understand how the production and/or line numbers work, could someone help me out?

Taking a random selection (screenshot below) of MAX aircraft from the planespotters production list (7626-7640), why is it that there are two aircraft that are active and all the rest are still on order? Is this caused by the MAX groundings and/or COVID? If not, why are they being built/delivered out of order? I would really appreciate any insight into this!

EDIT - I've just seen this link https://737-max.blogspot.com/ and it seems planespotters just has the aircraft as 'on order' if they haven't been delivered. Thanks WoodysAeroimag - assuming this is your website?

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Polot answer's right, but I give a longer background answer. At the moment of the grounding mid march 2019, Boeing had delivered most aircraft until around LN 7432. This figure is counting the production of NG and MAX, it's the 7432th of these aircraft built. They decided they'd continue production in almost full speed (only lowering from 52 to 42 per month), underestimating the time it would take before the grounding was lifted. About 460 more were built in the following 10 months, mostly already painted in the airline colours they were allocated to, by the time in january 2020 they finally decided to halt production they already reached around LN 7892. The screenshot you show is the production of 2 weeks in july 2019. All these aircraft have been completed but ferried to parking spaces and storage airports waiting for the moment the airlines can take delivery. As Polot pointed out, mainly Southwest, United, American are taking delivery of this block of built but undelivered 737s already. Boeing built a lot for Chinese airlines. China didn't lift the grounding yet so these frames will remain parked for a few more months I guess. China might even reject taking delivery of them. I see a few others on your screenshot which might be near delivery now; Air Canada, GOL and SmartWings are flying other frames already so they can easily take these ones as well. SpiceJet (money issues) and BOC (few airlines will line up to lease an aircraft now) are the two aircraft on your screenshot most likely to hang around gathering dust long, maybe it will take up to two or three years before all the storage yards are cleared.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:25 pm

RobK wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
RobK wrote:
Lucky Air B38M B-207Q was pinging at Victorville yesterday afternoon. China ban lifting imminent? Or being prepped for a new customer given Lucky Air is under the HNA Group umbrella?



BOE053 departed VCV today and returned to the home nest of Renton. Of course the day I am off from work that was the only MAX to fly. Not worth the 30 minute drive up just for a southwest MAX 8 as bad as I want to get a MAX landing at Renton. Yesterday and the day before while working and in Portland a ton of MAX flew it seemed like. Just my luck, can't win the day before my birthday :banghead: :rotfl:


Happy birthday :birthday: :bigthumbsup: .

Most of the new WNs haven't been photographed yet so all fresh pics are welcome.

I was wondering why I couldn't find any pics of YR-MXB, but now it all makes sense.... :wink2:
https://boardingpass.ro/foto-al-doilea-boeing-737-max-8-blue-air-a-fost-asamblat-si-vopsit/


7672 43306 YR-MXB 737-8 Blue Air
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:26 pm

Woody/Brandon, which RYR is in A7 at RNT please? Can't be sure from your recent pics Woody as there's 3 of them on the flight line. And is it EI-HEZ in C15 at BFI? Something pinging an N reg from there.

I think that people could be perhaps jumping the gun with the RYR line numbers. Is there any official proof that 7965 is EI-HGJ? The registrations are not populated on my data which often is an indicator that some late switcheroos could be in progress. It's worth noting that earlier frames with allocations SP-RZE and SP-RZF for Buzz have seemingly not been sighted based on lack of online pics, yet later frames SP-RZG and SP-RZH are already fully painted. It's also worth noting that some frames have been reallocated to Malta Air so one should expect 9H- registrations there.

These LNs are all for Aviation Finance and Leasing Limited for operation by the Ryanair group:
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7904
7909
7917
7922
7926

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Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:10 am

RobK wrote:
Woody/Brandon, which RYR is in A7 at RNT please? Can't be sure from your recent pics Woody as there's 3 of them on the flight line. And is it EI-HEZ in C15 at BFI? Something pinging an N reg from there.

I think that people could be perhaps jumping the gun with the RYR line numbers. Is there any official proof that 7965 is EI-HGJ? The registrations are not populated on my data which often is an indicator that some late switcheroos could be in progress. It's worth noting that earlier frames with allocations SP-RZE and SP-RZF for Buzz have seemingly not been sighted based on lack of online pics, yet later frames SP-RZG and SP-RZH are already fully painted. It's also worth noting that some frames have been reallocated to Malta Air so one should expect 9H- registrations there.

These LNs are all for Aviation Finance and Leasing Limited for operation by the Ryanair group:
7900
7904
7909
7917
7922
7926

7965
7976
7992
8000


On wednesday - EI-HGK was in that stall. In the picture below you can see the stall sign on the building.
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Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:48 am

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
RobK wrote:
Woody/Brandon, which RYR is in A7 at RNT please? Can't be sure from your recent pics Woody as there's 3 of them on the flight line. And is it EI-HEZ in C15 at BFI? Something pinging an N reg from there.

I think that people could be perhaps jumping the gun with the RYR line numbers. Is there any official proof that 7965 is EI-HGJ? The registrations are not populated on my data which often is an indicator that some late switcheroos could be in progress. It's worth noting that earlier frames with allocations SP-RZE and SP-RZF for Buzz have seemingly not been sighted based on lack of online pics, yet later frames SP-RZG and SP-RZH are already fully painted. It's also worth noting that some frames have been reallocated to Malta Air so one should expect 9H- registrations there.

These LNs are all for Aviation Finance and Leasing Limited for operation by the Ryanair group:
7900
7904
7909
7917
7922
7926

7965
7976
7992
8000


On wednesday - EI-HGK was in that stall. In the picture below you can see the stall sign on the building.
ImageEI-HGK 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr


Still is that one. At BFI its EI-HEZ N4_773? Also N115AM, AeroMexico Max 9 that is the N reg, has Boeing reg N1781B I believe
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Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:50 am

I will try to get some updated photos posted shortly, but on the first Alaska MAX flight in the morning so may be a couple of days after all of that. Follow on my twitter in my sig for coverage of that.
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Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:38 pm

Thanks to both. If my suspicions are correct, the first frame for Flair is being readied at MWH and should be heading back soon.
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