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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Sun May 16, 2021 5:15 pm

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Does the MAX 7 need separate certification from the 8 and 9? If so, has it been certified?


It needs it's own certificate and as far as I know has not been certified yet.
 
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Mon May 17, 2021 4:12 am

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planecane wrote:
When I see the fuselages on the trains, is there any way to know the LN from a distance?


On the right side of the fuselage the line number is located in 3 places. On the nose and above each lower cargo hold doors. On the left side its on the Nose only.
Image7571 43303 C-FTXF 737-8 Sunwing by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

Thanks! It will be cool to note the LN when I see them in the future.
 
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Mon May 17, 2021 2:06 pm

The Malta Air livery is very nice. Glad to see a unique design!

Looking forward to the deliveries resuming. Got a chance to see some tired A320 metal on the UA ramp the other day. Reminded me of the 727s around the turn of the century. The extra rest the Max frames got will be used up quickly as they are going to get worked like a rented mule.
 
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Mon May 17, 2021 3:09 pm

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
gr8slvrflt wrote:
Does the MAX 7 need separate certification from the 8 and 9? If so, has it been certified?

It needs it's own certificate and as far as I know has not been certified yet.

I think it'd be a bit more accurate to say the 737 type certificate needs to be amended to add the MAX7.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_73 ... tification

But yes, this hasn't happened yet. Boeing says it expects to deliver MAX7 some time this year, and to do this they will need the amended certificate.
 
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Tue May 18, 2021 3:14 am

The entire Alaska Air fleet has been fixed and will all be back in service as of tomorrow as N913AK came back today from OKC. Here's a couple pics of N919AK coming back Sunday.

ImageN919AK Alaska Airlines Boeing 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageN919AK Alaska Airlines Boeing 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris

Also finally got around to posting a couple shots of Blue Air from an April test flight.-

ImageYR-MXB Blue Air Boeing 737-8 MAX by Brandon Farris

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Tue May 18, 2021 6:51 am



Now on the site
 
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Tue May 18, 2021 10:26 pm

It looks like the first frame from Flair will be coming out of paint soon. The airline posted this on their social media:
https://twitter.com/FlairAirlines/statu ... 8727199744
 
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Tue May 18, 2021 11:18 pm

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It looks like the first frame from Flair will be coming out of paint soon. The airline posted this on their social media:
https://twitter.com/FlairAirlines/statu ... 8727199744


Its out and on the flight line. I just can't get down there today to get a picture.
 
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Thu May 20, 2021 11:55 pm

Flair went up today. Expect photos from people. Unfortunately I worked all night last night and by the time I woke up it already landed along with seven other MAX flights. Busy day at BFI today.

Also MAX 10 did a high speed taxi test today. Bummed I missed that too along with the 777X going into SeaTac
 
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Fri May 21, 2021 5:47 am

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Flair went up today. Expect photos from people. Unfortunately I worked all night last night and by the time I woke up it already landed along with seven other MAX flights. Busy day at BFI today.

Also MAX 10 did a high speed taxi test today. Bummed I missed that too along with the 777X going into SeaTac


Oh wow, that means first flight soon?
 
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Fri May 21, 2021 12:05 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
Flair went up today. Expect photos from people. Unfortunately I worked all night last night and by the time I woke up it already landed along with seven other MAX flights. Busy day at BFI today.

Also MAX 10 did a high speed taxi test today. Bummed I missed that too along with the 777X going into SeaTac


Oh wow, that means first flight soon?

Maybe, they've done them before, but no one really knows what their time line is other than EIS 2023.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Fri May 21, 2021 2:30 pm

This may merit a separate thread, but it appears Boeing plans to ramp up 737 production quicker than anticipated.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusiv ... 53458.html
 
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Fri May 21, 2021 2:37 pm

Jetport wrote:
This may merit a separate thread, but it appears Boeing plans to ramp up 737 production quicker than anticipated.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusiv ... 53458.html

Seems fair to talk about production targets in a production thread.

TFA suggests:

43/month by fall 2022.

31/month by March 2022.

26/month by end 2021.

China still a concern.
 
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Sat May 22, 2021 1:32 am

MileHFL400 wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
Flair went up today. Expect photos from people. Unfortunately I worked all night last night and by the time I woke up it already landed along with seven other MAX flights. Busy day at BFI today.

Also MAX 10 did a high speed taxi test today. Bummed I missed that too along with the 777X going into SeaTac


Oh wow, that means first flight soon?


First Flight will occur in early June from what I've been told.
 
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Sat May 22, 2021 3:01 am

Revelation wrote:
Jetport wrote:
This may merit a separate thread, but it appears Boeing plans to ramp up 737 production quicker than anticipated.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusiv ... 53458.html

Seems fair to talk about production targets in a production thread.

TFA suggests:

43/month by fall 2022.

31/month by March 2022.

26/month by end 2021.

China still a concern.

With some cancellations mixed in, it will be interesting to see if some airlines try to jump up and get some planes sooner. Especially if gas continues to increase in price...airlines potentially moving options forward?
 
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Sat May 22, 2021 12:12 pm

DaCubbyBearBar wrote:
Revelation wrote:
Jetport wrote:
This may merit a separate thread, but it appears Boeing plans to ramp up 737 production quicker than anticipated.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusiv ... 53458.html

Seems fair to talk about production targets in a production thread.

TFA suggests:

43/month by fall 2022.

31/month by March 2022.

26/month by end 2021.

China still a concern.

With some cancellations mixed in, it will be interesting to see if some airlines try to jump up and get some planes sooner. Especially if gas continues to increase in price...airlines potentially moving options forward?

WN has a ton of flexibility in their order book to do just that. I have a feeling that they will exercise and move up options as well as retire the -700 fleet sooner than later with the price of JetA on the rise.
 
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Sat May 22, 2021 6:56 pm

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
seahawks7757 wrote:
Flair went up today. Expect photos from people. Unfortunately I worked all night last night and by the time I woke up it already landed along with seven other MAX flights. Busy day at BFI today.

Also MAX 10 did a high speed taxi test today. Bummed I missed that too along with the 777X going into SeaTac


Oh wow, that means first flight soon?


First Flight will occur in early June from what I've been told.

Hmm nice. Does that mean they would’ve applied the synthetic airspeed censor on the MAX10s?
 
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Sat May 22, 2021 9:03 pm

Opus99 wrote:
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
Oh wow, that means first flight soon?

First Flight will occur in early June from what I've been told.

Hmm nice. Does that mean they would’ve applied the synthetic airspeed censor on the MAX10s?

I'm pretty sure I've read that Boeing has found an approach to meet the EASA's concerns by enhancing the current system without adding synthetic airspeed.

Since I can't find a link right now, consider this my opinion. :-)

Regardless, it would not mean they changed anything regarding airspeed sensing since they are flying on an experimental certificate and with this they can do pretty much anything they want to do.

Eventually they need to switch over to the final system if they want the testing to apply towards certification.
 
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Sat May 22, 2021 9:10 pm

Revelation wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
First Flight will occur in early June from what I've been told.

Hmm nice. Does that mean they would’ve applied the synthetic airspeed censor on the MAX10s?

I'm pretty sure I've read that Boeing has found an approach to meet the EASA's concerns by enhancing the current system without adding synthetic airspeed.

Since I can't find a link right now, consider this my opinion. :-)

Regardless, it would not mean they changed anything regarding airspeed sensing since they are flying on an experimental certificate and with this they can do pretty much anything they want to do.

Eventually they need to switch over to the final system if they want the testing to apply towards certification.

Oh nice! Thanks for that. I think I’ve seen that before as well. Hopefully it will go smoothly from first flight to certification! It will be an interesting one to watch. Especially from a performance perspective. I’m hoping it can give Boeing a dog in the large narrow body fight. At least to stop the bleeding
 
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Sat May 22, 2021 9:12 pm

 
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Sun May 23, 2021 12:42 am

7929 737-8 9Air - Rolled out of final assembly
Image7929 737-8 9Air by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

8102 EI-HGV 737-8 200 Ryanair - Painted
Image8102 EI-HGV 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

8106 737-8 200 Ryanair - Rolled out
Image8106 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
 
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Sun May 23, 2021 1:46 am

When are Ryanair deliveries suppose to begin?
 
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Sun May 23, 2021 3:41 am

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When are Ryanair deliveries suppose to begin?


That is a good question. Boeing is currently sending all new built Ryanair's, Malta Air's, and Buzz Air's to storage at MWH. So IMHO, I doubt we will see any delivered before Early to Mid-June.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 1:41 am

Double Delivery for Icelandair today,
MAX 8 TF-ICP
https://www.flightradar24.com/ICE6082/27d11b29

MAX 9 TF-ICC
https://www.flightradar24.com/ICE6094/27d15998

Surprised they are taking deliveries before their whole MAX fleet is active.
 
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Tue May 25, 2021 2:07 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Double Delivery for Icelandair today,
MAX 8 TF-ICP
https://www.flightradar24.com/ICE6082/27d11b29

MAX 9 TF-ICC
https://www.flightradar24.com/ICE6094/27d15998

Surprised they are taking deliveries before their whole MAX fleet is active.


They only had 3 frames undelivered. Now they only have 1 remaining to be delivered.
 
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Tue May 25, 2021 2:38 am

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Double Delivery for Icelandair today,
MAX 8 TF-ICP
https://www.flightradar24.com/ICE6082/27d11b29

MAX 9 TF-ICC
https://www.flightradar24.com/ICE6094/27d15998

Surprised they are taking deliveries before their whole MAX fleet is active.


They only had 3 frames undelivered. Now they only have 1 remaining to be delivered.


Understandable but like half of their fleet is parked, Not sure if a schedule ramp up is incoming or that these aircraft will enter service right away.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 4:25 am

Another Double Delivery,

Fiji Airways has taken delivery of DQ-FAE and flew away today - MAX 8
https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI2201/27d476e8

DQ-FAH is also scheduled to depart tomorrow.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/dq-fah
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 5:30 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Another Double Delivery,

Fiji Airways has taken delivery of DQ-FAE and flew away today - MAX 8
https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI2201/27d476e8

DQ-FAH is also scheduled to depart tomorrow.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/dq-fah


It seems that deliveries are starting to pick up. How many have been delivered and how many are in storage now? Anyone wants to gues the current monthly production. I read recently it was single digits.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 7:19 am

Oykie wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Another Double Delivery,

Fiji Airways has taken delivery of DQ-FAE and flew away today - MAX 8
https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI2201/27d476e8

DQ-FAH is also scheduled to depart tomorrow.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/dq-fah


It seems that deliveries are starting to pick up. How many have been delivered and how many are in storage now? Anyone wants to gues the current monthly production. I read recently it was single digits.


According to planespotters, 9 MAX's har been delivered since May 18th.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 9:49 am

Oykie wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Another Double Delivery,

Fiji Airways has taken delivery of DQ-FAE and flew away today - MAX 8
https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI2201/27d476e8

DQ-FAH is also scheduled to depart tomorrow.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/dq-fah


It seems that deliveries are starting to pick up. How many have been delivered and how many are in storage now? Anyone wants to gues the current monthly production. I read recently it was single digits.

There are about 380 undelivered but finished 737s hanging around in western USA. Most deliveries (with LNs between 7400 and 7900) are taken from that lot. Production is difficult to estimate because they stop following LN's for a while (these fuselages are lying in Wichita but not used yet if and when the airline, for instance the Chinese ones or bankrupt Jet Airways, aren't willing to take them), but based on the last half year only 5 or so per month at this time.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Wed May 26, 2021 9:57 am

How far is the first MAX 10 from first flight?
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 10:09 am

Noshow wrote:
How far is the first MAX 10 from first flight?

Woody was saying he’s hearing early June
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 10:16 am

Thanks. Something to look forward to.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 1:32 pm

I remember seeing that parking lot full of Max's along East Marginal Way during a visit
to the Museum of Flight back in Nov '20 Have they started clearing out those frames yet?
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 5:56 pm

What is the status of the remaining MAX units destined for Belavia in light of recent events? Will they be delivered?
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 7:30 pm

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What is the status of the remaining MAX units destined for Belavia in light of recent events? Will they be delivered?

In case anyone else wonders:

Belavia has said it has been banned from flying to Lithuania, Latvia, France, Sweden, Britain, Finland, the Czech Republic and Ukraine.

Ref: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/be ... 021-05-26/

Not sure it has any impact, time will tell.

Like other similar situations, we may see a contractual delivery without the airplane flying away.
 
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Wed May 26, 2021 8:31 pm

-10 first flight early June as Woody said
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 12:47 am

Sooner787 wrote:
I remember seeing that parking lot full of Max's along East Marginal Way during a visit
to the Museum of Flight back in Nov '20 Have they started clearing out those frames yet?


That lot is almost empty now.
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 12:51 am

Alaska Airlines has taken up the former NTU frame for Corendon Airlines PH-CDK LN 7503. Currently painted in a Special Alaska Livery with the Registration of N979AK. It was speculated that it was one of the MAX 9 test frames, but it still has the Corendon Winglets installed. I was able to see it when I went by BFI, but didn't have my camera. Brandon has some pictures

7503 43393 N979AK 737-9 Alaska Airlines
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 2:53 am

nice to see those NTU finding new homes..do we have a list of them ?
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 2:56 am

Here is Flair on its delivery flight today, working on uploading the AS shots next.



Since I only get on on Airliners, here's a few more from the old flickr-

ImageC-FLEJ Flair Airlines Boeing 737-8 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageC-FLEJ Flair Airlines Boeing 737-8 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageC-FLEJ Flair Airlines Boeing 737-8 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageC-FLEJ Flair Airlines Boeing 737-8 MAX by Brandon Farris
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 3:17 am

7644 66122 N27751 737-10 United Airlines - Ground tests today. First flight has been scheduled for early June.
Image7644 66122 N27751 737-10 United Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

7972 737-8 China Eastern Airlines - Rolled out
Image7972 737-8 China Eastern Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr

8019 62328 9H-VUC 737-8 200 Malta Air - Back on the flight line after a skin repair around the nose.
Image8019 62328 9H-VUC 737-8 200 Malta Air by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 3:21 am

WoodysAeroimag wrote:
Alaska Airlines has taken up the former NTU frame for Corendon Airlines PH-CDK LN 7503. Currently painted in a Special Alaska Livery with the Registration of N979AK. It was speculated that it was one of the MAX 9 test frames, but it still has the Corendon Winglets installed. I was able to see it when I went by BFI, but didn't have my camera. Brandon has some pictures

7503 43393 N979AK 737-9 Alaska Airlines


The mentioned Alaska 737-9 MAX Special, not much but three mountains are very clear on this. Unfortunately with distance and heat haze, not the greatest, but just got to take what you can get sometimes.

ImageN979AK Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageN979AK Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageN979AK Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageN979AK Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 4:32 am

seahawks7757 wrote:
Here is Flair on its delivery flight today, working on uploading the AS shots next.


Nice and they do have a lot of new routes planned coming up. But another new livery? I think that's their 4th livery in 5 years.
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 5:23 am

So planespotters and other sources has 9V-MBG as not delivered yet but I currently see it on FR24 flying west from Singapore over the Indian Ocean. Not sure if this is a bad hex code or something. Attached a screen shot incase the link goes bad.
https://www.flightradar24.com/27d79a66
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Thu May 27, 2021 6:37 am

9V-MBG is a scheduling input error. It was actually 9V-MGB. 9V-MBG is still in storage at MWH.

Did anyone see the Indian P8 today? Wondering if still all taped over or in full livery now? Was still wearing old sticker reg last time it flew, which is unusual post mods.

One of U-turn's old Maxes flew down from PAE today too after years of storage. I wonder what's happening with that since Air Italy is dead.
 
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Thu May 27, 2021 12:35 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
So planespotters and other sources has 9V-MBG as not delivered yet but I currently see it on FR24 flying west from Singapore over the Indian Ocean. Not sure if this is a bad hex code or something. Attached a screen shot incase the link goes bad.
https://www.flightradar24.com/27d79a66
Image


Could it be doing Maldives?
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Thu May 27, 2021 4:41 pm

seahawks7757 wrote:
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
Alaska Airlines has taken up the former NTU frame for Corendon Airlines PH-CDK LN 7503. Currently painted in a Special Alaska Livery with the Registration of N979AK. It was speculated that it was one of the MAX 9 test frames, but it still has the Corendon Winglets installed. I was able to see it when I went by BFI, but didn't have my camera. Brandon has some pictures

7503 43393 N979AK 737-9 Alaska Airlines


The mentioned Alaska 737-9 MAX Special, not much but three mountains are very clear on this. Unfortunately with distance and heat haze, not the greatest, but just got to take what you can get sometimes.

ImageN979AK Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageN979AK Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageN979AK Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris

ImageN979AK Alaska Airlines 737-9 MAX by Brandon Farris



So sounds like this is going to be the next ecodemonstrator aircraft according to Jon Ostrower!

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/ ... 32839?s=21
 
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737 MAX 10 being readied for flight tests

Fri May 28, 2021 5:53 am

Aviation Week reports the 737 MAX 10 had a taxi test on May 20 and that flight tests may begin soon. I don't have a subscription but perhaps someone who does can provide a little more information.

https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... rst-flight

The previous piece of news was over a year ago, with taxi tests on March 3, 2020.

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