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Amwest2United wrote:Is there a website someplace where we can see the planned delivery schedule? I am looking for the next two Flair Max 8 registration numbers?
RobK wrote:I am aware of the following cancellations to become white tails, mainly huge cancellations by BOC, ALAFCO, Avolon and Aviation Capital Group, all transferred to Boeing ownership, including some direct airline cancellations.
Affected are:
Royal Air Maroc
SpiceJet
LOT Polish Airlines
SunExpress Deutschland
NordStar
BBJ customers x2 cancelled.
Air Europa
Corendon Airlines Europe
Utair Aviation
Oman Air
Mongolian Airlines
Eastar Jet
Gol Linhas Aéreas (looks like China Development Bank Finance are taking over (at least some of) the cancelled Avolon frame leases - see PR-XMM)
Ukraine International Airlines
Belavia Belarusian Airlines
Sooner787 wrote:Is it just me or does that UA Max 8 have slightly revised Evoblue Livery?
Appears the engine cowling is a lighter shade of blue and it looks like the light shading effect
on top of the tail is gone?
konrad wrote:RobK wrote:I am aware of the following cancellations to become white tails, mainly huge cancellations by BOC, ALAFCO, Avolon and Aviation Capital Group, all transferred to Boeing ownership, including some direct airline cancellations.
Affected are:
Royal Air Maroc
SpiceJet
LOT Polish Airlines
SunExpress Deutschland
NordStar
BBJ customers x2 cancelled.
Air Europa
Corendon Airlines Europe
Utair Aviation
Oman Air
Mongolian Airlines
Eastar Jet
Gol Linhas Aéreas (looks like China Development Bank Finance are taking over (at least some of) the cancelled Avolon frame leases - see PR-XMM)
Ukraine International Airlines
Belavia Belarusian Airlines
CEO of LOT Polish Airlines recently admitted that they will not be taking delivery of 10 737MAX8. Out of that number 8 are in storage, already in LOT livery and registration. LOT operates 5 airframes at present, delivered before the pandemics.
9YCAL wrote:Is there a 9Y registration for the second Max aircraft for Caribbean Airlines already?
RobK wrote:No sure what's going on with Corendon. 1 has cancelled (ALC) and picked up by AS but there's a fresh one due to roll out later this month also ALC. Will have to wait and see if that one ends up in AS livery too.
FlyingMSY wrote:Sooner787 wrote:Is it just me or does that UA Max 8 have slightly revised Evoblue Livery?
Appears the engine cowling is a lighter shade of blue and it looks like the light shading effect
on top of the tail is gone?
Nah, if you look at the flickr version, the dots on the tail that make up the shading effect are still there, probably just the shadows.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/737max-pr ... 243951119/
frigatebird wrote:Corendon Airlines has placed orders with some lessors for MAX-8 (Going to Corendon Airlines Europe & International, 1 delivered to Int but not yet RTS) and MAX-9 for their Dutch branch. I still think the MAX-9 will be delivered eventually, as Corendon Dutch has recently signed a new maintenance deal with AFI KLM E&M for 737s, now including the MAX too.
A388 wrote:frigatebird wrote:Corendon Airlines has placed orders with some lessors for MAX-8 (Going to Corendon Airlines Europe & International, 1 delivered to Int but not yet RTS) and MAX-9 for their Dutch branch. I still think the MAX-9 will be delivered eventually, as Corendon Dutch has recently signed a new maintenance deal with AFI KLM E&M for 737s, now including the MAX too.
KLM doing MAX maintenance now? Is this an indication for them eventually going for the MAX too? It wouldn't surprise me to be honest.
A388 wrote:frigatebird wrote:Corendon Airlines has placed orders with some lessors for MAX-8 (Going to Corendon Airlines Europe & International, 1 delivered to Int but not yet RTS) and MAX-9 for their Dutch branch. I still think the MAX-9 will be delivered eventually, as Corendon Dutch has recently signed a new maintenance deal with AFI KLM E&M for 737s, now including the MAX too.
KLM doing MAX maintenance now? Is this an indication for them eventually going for the MAX too? It wouldn't surprise me to be honest.
A388
Nnaeto87 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-15/u-s-talking-to-china-on-boeing-737-max-approval-raimondo-says
Well the US are in talks with China to get the MAX re certified. So let’s see how that plays out. One to watch of course
Sooner787 wrote:Wonder if Boeing would get to a point where they consider the Chinese Max's "White Tails" and offer them to other airlines?
Seems B has had good success off loading their current backlog ...
APRobert wrote:According to flightradar24, Aeromexico 737-8 N105JS departed Boeing Field at 5:19 PM PDT today 6-15-21, enroute to Mecico City (MEX), operating as Aeromexico Flight 9448. According to my count, this is the 12th MAX delivery flight of June 2021.
RobK wrote:Planespotters.net data quality going down the tubes again. It's fully registered, not a test registration, same for N109JS and N110JS.
Revelation wrote:Sooner787 wrote:Wonder if Boeing would get to a point where they consider the Chinese Max's "White Tails" and offer them to other airlines?
Seems B has had good success off loading their current backlog ...
As per the pictures above we see new Air China MAXes rolling out of the factory at RNT, which suggests we aren't near the point where Boeing would treat them as white tails. If so they clearly wouldn't be building new ones for China's flag carrier.
WoodysAeroimag wrote:Confirmed with multiple sources and some media friends that are attending. The MAX 10 B1 flight is Friday @ 10 AM. Will do more taxi test over the next few days.
APRobert wrote:According to flightradar24, TUI 737-8 PH-TFT departed Boeing Field at 1:12 PM PDT today 6-16-21, enroute to Glasgow (GLA), operating as TUI Flight 56F. According to flightradar24 the most recent prior flight for PH-TFT was on 6-11-21 as Boeing Flight 875, thus today's flight is a delivery flight. According to my count this is the 14th MAX delivery flight of June 2021.
APRobert wrote:According to flightradar24, TUI 737-8 PH-TFT departed Boeing Field at 1:12 PM PDT today 6-16-21, enroute to Glasgow (GLA), operating as TUI Flight 56F. According to flightradar24 the most recent prior flight for PH-TFT was on 6-11-21 as Boeing Flight 875, thus today's flight is a delivery flight. According to my count this is the 14th MAX delivery flight of June 2021.
travaz wrote:TUI PH-TFT did a flight to Moses lake and return as BOE 876, I am guessing a test flight?
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/boe876
travaz wrote:TUI PH-TFT did a flight to Moses lake and return as BOE 876, I am guessing a test flight?
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/boe876
APRobert wrote:According to flightradar24, TUI 737-8 PH-TFT departed Boeing Field at 1:12 PM PDT today 6-16-21, enroute to Glasgow (GLA), operating as TUI Flight 56F. According to flightradar24 the most recent prior flight for PH-TFT was on 6-11-21 as Boeing Flight 875, thus today's flight is a delivery flight. According to my count this is the 14th MAX delivery flight of June 2021.
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
Avgeek21 wrote:travaz wrote:TUI PH-TFT did a flight to Moses lake and return as BOE 876, I am guessing a test flight?
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/boe876
PH-TFT is planned for delivery wednesday evening to AMS with a techstop in Iceland.
APRobert wrote:BELIEVE IT OR NOT! Ryanair has taken delivery of their first 737 MAX 8-200. According to flightradar24, Ryanair 737-8-200 EI-HEN (see Woody's typically excellent picture a few posts above) departed Boeing Field at 1:16 AM PDT today 6-16-21, enroute to Dublin (DUB), operating as Ryanair Flight 82MO. According to flightradar24 the most recent prior flight for EI-HEN was on 6-14-21 as Boeing Flight 755, thus today's flight is a delivery flight. According to my count this is the 13th MAX delivery flight of June 2021.
Avgeek21 wrote:travaz wrote:TUI PH-TFT did a flight to Moses lake and return as BOE 876, I am guessing a test flight?
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/boe876
PH-TFT is planned for delivery wednesday evening to AMS with a techstop in Iceland.
travaz wrote:Yes it did. Low Hydraulic pressure was what was reported but can"t confirm that was the issue. The flight I referenced was after the return so I am wondering if the flight was a test flight after repairs.
RobK wrote:travaz wrote:Yes it did. Low Hydraulic pressure was what was reported but can"t confirm that was the issue. The flight I referenced was after the return so I am wondering if the flight was a test flight after repairs.
It's not made any test flight. It came back and was towed back to D2 delivery stall where it started from. Pilot reported low hydraulic pressure on the radio as the reason for the return, I heard it first hand.
WoodysAeroimag wrote:APRobert wrote:According to flightradar24, TUI 737-8 PH-TFT departed Boeing Field at 1:12 PM PDT today 6-16-21, enroute to Glasgow (GLA), operating as TUI Flight 56F. According to flightradar24 the most recent prior flight for PH-TFT was on 6-11-21 as Boeing Flight 875, thus today's flight is a delivery flight. According to my count this is the 14th MAX delivery flight of June 2021.
It's actually 15th delivery for June based on my records.
7678 43754 XA-MAZ 737-9 Aeromexico Delivered 0D0BA1 AMX9448 6/2/2021
7895 43371 N115AM 737-9 Aeromexico Delivered A03ED2 AMX9450 6/3/2021
7894 42536 N8816Q 737-8 Southwest Airlines Delivered AC24C5 SWA8702 6/4/2021
7672 43306 YR-MXB 737-8 Blue Air Delivered 4A3702 BLA002 6/4/2021
7588 44606 G-TUMR 737-8 Tui fly UK Delivered 407BA2 TOM949P 6/7/2021
7749 64942 C-FFEL 737-8 Flair Airlines Delivered C00DA8 FLE002 6/7/2021
7650 62872 EI-RZC 737-8 Neos Delivered 4CA961 NOS101 6/8/2021
7837 43582 EI-RZD 737-8 Neos Delivered 4CAC36 NOS202 6/8/2021
7808 61583 PR-XMO 737-8 Gol Transportes Aéreos Delivered E4952B GLO9657 6/10/2021
7683 61804 C-FLHI 737-8 Flair Airlines Delivered C01DCB FLE003 6/10/2021
7454 44650 G-TUMV 737-8 Tui fly UK Delivered 407C25 TOM950P 6/11/2021
7830 61584 PR-XMP 737-8 Gol Transportes Aéreos Delivered E4952A GLO9658 6/15/2021
7539 43709 N105JS 737-8 Aeromexico Delivered A01820 AMX9448 6/15/2021
7755 62301 EI-HEN 737-8 200 Ryanair Delivered 4CAC1E RYR82MO 6/16/2021
7918 44610 PH-TFT 737-8 TUI Airlines Netherlands Delivered 485A85 TFL56F 6/16/2021
APRobert wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:APRobert wrote:According to flightradar24, TUI 737-8 PH-TFT departed Boeing Field at 1:12 PM PDT today 6-16-21, enroute to Glasgow (GLA), operating as TUI Flight 56F. According to flightradar24 the most recent prior flight for PH-TFT was on 6-11-21 as Boeing Flight 875, thus today's flight is a delivery flight. According to my count this is the 14th MAX delivery flight of June 2021.
It's actually 15th delivery for June based on my records.
7678 43754 XA-MAZ 737-9 Aeromexico Delivered 0D0BA1 AMX9448 6/2/2021
7895 43371 N115AM 737-9 Aeromexico Delivered A03ED2 AMX9450 6/3/2021
7894 42536 N8816Q 737-8 Southwest Airlines Delivered AC24C5 SWA8702 6/4/2021
7672 43306 YR-MXB 737-8 Blue Air Delivered 4A3702 BLA002 6/4/2021
7588 44606 G-TUMR 737-8 Tui fly UK Delivered 407BA2 TOM949P 6/7/2021
7749 64942 C-FFEL 737-8 Flair Airlines Delivered C00DA8 FLE002 6/7/2021
7650 62872 EI-RZC 737-8 Neos Delivered 4CA961 NOS101 6/8/2021
7837 43582 EI-RZD 737-8 Neos Delivered 4CAC36 NOS202 6/8/2021
7808 61583 PR-XMO 737-8 Gol Transportes Aéreos Delivered E4952B GLO9657 6/10/2021
7683 61804 C-FLHI 737-8 Flair Airlines Delivered C01DCB FLE003 6/10/2021
7454 44650 G-TUMV 737-8 Tui fly UK Delivered 407C25 TOM950P 6/11/2021
7830 61584 PR-XMP 737-8 Gol Transportes Aéreos Delivered E4952A GLO9658 6/15/2021
7539 43709 N105JS 737-8 Aeromexico Delivered A01820 AMX9448 6/15/2021
7755 62301 EI-HEN 737-8 200 Ryanair Delivered 4CAC1E RYR82MO 6/16/2021
7918 44610 PH-TFT 737-8 TUI Airlines Netherlands Delivered 485A85 TFL56F 6/16/2021
Hello Woody,
I was missing one delivery flight from your list on my list. I agree with you that if PH-TFT had made it to Glasgow on 6-16-21, instead of turning back, it would have been MAX delivery flight #15 of June 2021. Thank you for the correction and for your excellent pictures.