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WoodysAeroimag wrote:To answer the question from the previous thread on how many MAX's are rolling out of final assembly. Based on my observation, we have been seeing 2-3 new planes a week roll out.
Oykie wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:To answer the question from the previous thread on how many MAX's are rolling out of final assembly. Based on my observation, we have been seeing 2-3 new planes a week roll out.
Thank you! That would give us a production rate of 8-12 pr month.
Oykie wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:To answer the question from the previous thread on how many MAX's are rolling out of final assembly. Based on my observation, we have been seeing 2-3 new planes a week roll out.
Thank you! That would give us a production rate of 8-12 pr month.
ghost77 wrote:Those are just what has flown away. Several more could have been ticketed and delivered on paper today, but will fly away over the weekend.With the last 2020 breakdown, plus today, yet a 2020 delivery (post was closed), it's been 28 deliveries with N329SL (44479/7717) for AAL. Great way to close the year!
g77
WoodysAeroimag wrote:Oykie wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:To answer the question from the previous thread on how many MAX's are rolling out of final assembly. Based on my observation, we have been seeing 2-3 new planes a week roll out.
Thank you! That would give us a production rate of 8-12 pr month.
And they are skipping NTU frames and only building what will be delivered.
LGeneReese wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:Oykie wrote:
Thank you! That would give us a production rate of 8-12 pr month.
And they are skipping NTU frames and only building what will be delivered.
So are the NTU LNs going to be accounted for in some way... ?
RobK wrote:I wouldn't expect any changes to the "NTU" LNs. Based on Woody's earlier posts the LNs are mostly Chinese and nothing is happening with any of them with the current political situation. They will no doubt filter through at some point. From looking at the Norwegian and remaining UK P-8 LNs and their tentative first flight dates, there are at least 500 fuselages sitting unbuilt between Wichita and Renton so it makes sense to only assemble the ones where the customer has committed to taking delivery of them AND fly them away.
There's still 72 at BFI to deliver (3 delivered on paper)., 226 at Grant County, 2 at PAE (delivered on paper), 10 at Renton, 74 at Kelly Field and 39 at Victorville = 423 frames, c.103 of which are for Chinese operators.
lightsaber wrote:RobK wrote:I wouldn't expect any changes to the "NTU" LNs. Based on Woody's earlier posts the LNs are mostly Chinese and nothing is happening with any of them with the current political situation. They will no doubt filter through at some point. From looking at the Norwegian and remaining UK P-8 LNs and their tentative first flight dates, there are at least 500 fuselages sitting unbuilt between Wichita and Renton so it makes sense to only assemble the ones where the customer has committed to taking delivery of them AND fly them away.
There's still 72 at BFI to deliver (3 delivered on paper)., 226 at Grant County, 2 at PAE (delivered on paper), 10 at Renton, 74 at Kelly Field and 39 at Victorville = 423 frames, c.103 of which are for Chinese operators.
I thank you for the summary. I imagine the Chinese frames will be late. I do not expect them to accept the MAX for a long time. However, there are many others.
Lightsaber
Chemist wrote:lightsaber wrote:RobK wrote:I wouldn't expect any changes to the "NTU" LNs. Based on Woody's earlier posts the LNs are mostly Chinese and nothing is happening with any of them with the current political situation. They will no doubt filter through at some point. From looking at the Norwegian and remaining UK P-8 LNs and their tentative first flight dates, there are at least 500 fuselages sitting unbuilt between Wichita and Renton so it makes sense to only assemble the ones where the customer has committed to taking delivery of them AND fly them away.
There's still 72 at BFI to deliver (3 delivered on paper)., 226 at Grant County, 2 at PAE (delivered on paper), 10 at Renton, 74 at Kelly Field and 39 at Victorville = 423 frames, c.103 of which are for Chinese operators.
I thank you for the summary. I imagine the Chinese frames will be late. I do not expect them to accept the MAX for a long time. However, there are many others.
Lightsaber
They will be accepted by China once the need for the A/C exceeds the need for a political statement. Who knows how long that will be.
lightsaber wrote:RobK wrote:I wouldn't expect any changes to the "NTU" LNs. Based on Woody's earlier posts the LNs are mostly Chinese and nothing is happening with any of them with the current political situation. They will no doubt filter through at some point. From looking at the Norwegian and remaining UK P-8 LNs and their tentative first flight dates, there are at least 500 fuselages sitting unbuilt between Wichita and Renton so it makes sense to only assemble the ones where the customer has committed to taking delivery of them AND fly them away.
There's still 72 at BFI to deliver (3 delivered on paper)., 226 at Grant County, 2 at PAE (delivered on paper), 10 at Renton, 74 at Kelly Field and 39 at Victorville = 423 frames, c.103 of which are for Chinese operators.
I thank you for the summary. I imagine the Chinese frames will be late. I do not expect them to accept the MAX for a long time. However, there are many others.
Lightsaber
WoodysAeroimag wrote:Based on my data and tracking, I have put together the following data on the 2020 Boeing #737MAX deliveries. Note: This is not official data or numbers from Boeing.
https://737-max.blogspot.com
qf789 wrote:Southwest 737MAX8 NN8379L has been delivered PAE-PDX (5 Jan)
https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/13 ... 44193?s=20
DL752 wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:Based on my data and tracking, I have put together the following data on the 2020 Boeing #737MAX deliveries. Note: This is not official data or numbers from Boeing.
https://737-max.blogspot.com
Thank You for all of the updates you bring Woody, I always look forward to seeing them. Do you have any information on the registrations AA and WN have been assigning their Max fleet? It seems like the suffixes are ever-changing. I know some registration patterns refer to fleet types but I have noticed a change in the pattern with Max deliveries. Instead of AA or AN I see them using SU, SL, SK, etc. as well as Southwest using single letters rather than WN or SW.
Happy New Year and safe flying to all,
DL752
frmrCapCadet wrote:A question, there seems to be a recent consensus that the MAX-9 is doing better than many of us expected a year or so ago. Any one out there willing to write a paragraph or two on that?
RobK wrote:DL752 wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:Based on my data and tracking, I have put together the following data on the 2020 Boeing #737MAX deliveries. Note: This is not official data or numbers from Boeing.
https://737-max.blogspot.com
Thank You for all of the updates you bring Woody, I always look forward to seeing them. Do you have any information on the registrations AA and WN have been assigning their Max fleet? It seems like the suffixes are ever-changing. I know some registration patterns refer to fleet types but I have noticed a change in the pattern with Max deliveries. Instead of AA or AN I see them using SU, SL, SK, etc. as well as Southwest using single letters rather than WN or SW.
Happy New Year and safe flying to all,
DL752
AA Max fleet is 3RA through to 3WM reserved currently, ie. registrations are all N3[random number][random number][sequential fleet letter combo]. Currently up to 3SU.
WN Max fleet are 4 numbers, 72** range for B37M and 87** onwards range for B38M. End letter is random, although there is evidence that some suffix letters are preferred over others.737max8 wrote:WN MAX 8s are N87XX and soon to be N88XX.
As someone said, whenever the MAX 7s come online it will be N72XX.
Haven't figured out how the end letter is chosen, does seem more are used more than others (like J, L, M, Z, H, etc)
DL752 wrote:RobK wrote:DL752 wrote:
AA Max fleet is 3RA through to 3WM reserved currently, ie. registrations are all N3[random number][random number][sequential fleet letter combo]. Currently up to 3SU.
WN Max fleet are 4 numbers, 72** range for B37M and 87** onwards range for B38M. End letter is random, although there is evidence that some suffix letters are preferred over others.737max8 wrote:WN MAX 8s are N87XX and soon to be N88XX.
As someone said, whenever the MAX 7s come online it will be N72XX.
Haven't figured out how the end letter is chosen, does seem more are used more than others (like J, L, M, Z, H, etc)
Thank you both for the reply. It all makes sense once you crack the pattern! When working, I noticed little placards above 1L with the differentiating letters that placed the planes into airline-specific codes for specific fleet type or subfleet. I didn't know that it became this complex. Reminds me of these randomized registrations.
Looking at the Buzz registrations is satisfying! All in order and completing the alphabet as each plane is built.
DL752
737max8 wrote:WN MAX 8s are N87XX and soon to be N88XX.
As someone said, whenever the MAX 7s come online it will be N72XX.
Haven't figured out how the end letter is chosen, does seem more are used more than others (like J, L, M, Z, H, etc)
qf789 wrote:Southwest has taken delivery of 3 737MAX8 over the past 3 days, taking 2021 deliveries to 5
N8746Q delivered 8 Jan BFI-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8746q
N8744B delivered 9 Jan BFI-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8744b
N8745K delivered 10 Jan PAE-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8745k
Delta28L wrote:qf789 wrote:Southwest has taken delivery of 3 737MAX8 over the past 3 days, taking 2021 deliveries to 5
N8746Q delivered 8 Jan BFI-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8746q
N8744B delivered 9 Jan BFI-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8744b
N8745K delivered 10 Jan PAE-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8745k
Are these new builds or coming out of storage deliveries?
qf789 wrote:Southwest has taken delivery of 3 737MAX8 over the past 3 days, taking 2021 deliveries to 5
N8746Q delivered 8 Jan BFI-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8746q
N8744B delivered 9 Jan BFI-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8744b
N8745K delivered 10 Jan PAE-PHX
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n8745k
RobK wrote:Woody do you have info on what's currently in stall B5 at Renton please? Also any sightings of P8 169564 (not 9) which has been in hiding somewhere since the summer?
WoodysAeroimag wrote:RobK wrote:Woody do you have info on what's currently in stall B5 at Renton please? Also any sightings of P8 169564 (not 9) which has been in hiding somewhere since the summer?
Currently 7672 Somon NTU is in B5. I haven't seen 169564 in a while nor has my spotter friends after asking them.
RobK wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:RobK wrote:Woody do you have info on what's currently in stall B5 at Renton please? Also any sightings of P8 169564 (not 9) which has been in hiding somewhere since the summer?
Currently 7672 Somon NTU is in B5. I haven't seen 169564 in a while nor has my spotter friends after asking them.
Thanks . In that case I think it's been re-registered, or about to be (7672). Have you or anyone else had any sightings of 169564 at all ? I've not found any photos online. Seems strange why such a long delay when later ones have long since been and gone, unless some issues occurred during assembly.
WoodysAeroimag wrote:7922 62324 EI-HGH 737-8 200 Ryanair - Rolled out of paint
7922 62324 EI-HGH 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
N919AK 737-9 Alaska Airlines - Rolled out of final assembly
N919AK 737-9 Alaska Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
The wings for Air Malta have appeared behind final assembly.
Air Malta by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
Dalavia wrote:Am I right in thinking none of these newly painted MAXs has any type identification painted on the exterior (“Boeing 737-8 MAX”, or some variant thereof)?
jbs2886 wrote:WoodysAeroimag wrote:7922 62324 EI-HGH 737-8 200 Ryanair - Rolled out of paint
7922 62324 EI-HGH 737-8 200 Ryanair by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
N919AK 737-9 Alaska Airlines - Rolled out of final assembly
N919AK 737-9 Alaska Airlines by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
The wings for Air Malta have appeared behind final assembly.
Air Malta by 737 MAX Production, on Flickr
Quick correction, it’s Malta Air (Ryanair) instead of Air Malta, which is another airline. Kind of ridiculous to have such close names. I don’t think I realized they were getting their own livery.
Great pics though thank you for sharing.