Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Geoff1947 · Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:38 am

LN 1693 now identified as a 777F for DHL

http://kpae.blogspot.com/

Geoff

Geoff1947 · Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:50 am

Despite further delays in the development of the 777-9, Boeing is keeping 777 production at 2 per month.

The most recent 24 frames , LN1670 - 1693, have comprised

8 777-9
8 777-300ER
7 777F
1 777-200LR

Presumably the next 24 will be predominantly 777Fs.

Geoff

TC957 · Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:47 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
LN 1693 now identified as a 777F for DHL

http://kpae.blogspot.com/

Geoff

Should be D-AALR. There's two more Aerologic 77F's to come this year as well, also presumably for DHL operations.
When's the next Fed Ex 77F due ?

RobK · Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:38 am

D-AALR is correct. PH-BVW returned from paint yesterday, should have name Canadian Rocky Mountain Parks.

747classic · Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:46 pm

RobK wrote:
PH-BVW returned from paint yesterday, should have name Canadian Rocky Mountain Parks.

PH-BVW, KPDX, Jan 28th 2021

Original uploaded by planesguy at flickr, see : https://www.flickr.com/photos/planesguy/50885490033/

Aircraft data : L/N 1686 C/N 66889 B777-300ER PH-BVW KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES (WE573)

Geoff1947 · Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:11 pm

PH-BVV apparently going to Victorville today. Does that mean storage ?

Geoff

VCVSpotter · Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:59 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
PH-BVV apparently going to Victorville today. Does that mean storage ?

Geoff

Don’t think she’s going to VCV today, but she should be soon. And yes, she’s going to be stored, don’t know how long.

CX Flyboy · Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:43 am

Does anyone know how many more DHL 777Fs are due? I believe that even before the recently placed order, they still had several more coming from their previous order. Does anyone know which of the DHL partner airlines those frames will be assigned to? There is a rumour I am trying to confirm!

A320B737NGCapt · Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:42 am

CX Flyboy wrote:
Does anyone know how many more DHL 777Fs are due? I believe that even before the recently placed order, they still had several more coming from their previous order. Does anyone know which of the DHL partner airlines those frames will be assigned to? There is a rumour I am trying to confirm!

I wonder if this is the same rumour I’ve heard. That some might end up at Air Hong Kong?

747classic · Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:21 pm

CX Flyboy wrote:
Does anyone know how many more DHL 777Fs are due? I believe that even before the recently placed order, they still had several more coming from their previous order. Does anyone know which of the DHL partner airlines those frames will be assigned to? There is a rumour I am trying to confirm!

According Boeing's order and delivery webpage four (4) more are due from earlier orders, placed in March 2019 (2x) and June 2019 (2x)
The first of these four will be L/N 1693, D-AALR destined to be operated by AEROLOGIC.

The January 2021 order for (8) eight 777F aircraft was placed by another entity : "DHL Aviation Americas", all previous orders are listed as "DHL"

CX Flyboy · Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:39 pm

A320B737NGCapt wrote:
CX Flyboy wrote:
Does anyone know how many more DHL 777Fs are due? I believe that even before the recently placed order, they still had several more coming from their previous order. Does anyone know which of the DHL partner airlines those frames will be assigned to? There is a rumour I am trying to confirm!

I wonder if this is the same rumour I’ve heard. That some might end up at Air Hong Kong?

The rumours says 3 of them all this year.

So there are 4 DHL 777Fs this year...after D-AALR, have the other 3 been assigned? And when are they due?

747classic · Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:55 pm

A total of four (4) will be delivered in 2021 , see : https://www.dhl.com/kr-en/home/press/pr ... -year.html

A video of the assembly and painting of DHL 777F, L/N 1599, N705GT , operated by Southern Air, delivered at 10 May 2019.
See : https://twitter.com/dhlexpress/status/1 ... 9375662082

A320B737NGCapt · Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:38 pm

CX Flyboy wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:
CX Flyboy wrote:
Does anyone know how many more DHL 777Fs are due? I believe that even before the recently placed order, they still had several more coming from their previous order. Does anyone know which of the DHL partner airlines those frames will be assigned to? There is a rumour I am trying to confirm!

I wonder if this is the same rumour I’ve heard. That some might end up at Air Hong Kong?

The rumours says 3 of them all this year.

So there are 4 DHL 777Fs this year...after D-AALR, have the other 3 been assigned? And when are they due?

I’ve heard up to 3 frames crewed by CX pilots, so it’s the same as you have heard.

Geoff1947 · Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:54 pm

According to Boeing’s figures for the end of January 2021, there are now 14 unfilled orders for the 777-300ER.

This is down by 2 following the final 2 deliveries of the Novus order for British.

The status of the remaining 14 is as follows ;

Two frames for Aeroflot, previously in storage, are now back at Everett. These are LN 1652 and 1654.
Two frames for KLM have been built and are being prepared for delivery or storage. These are LN 1681 and 1686.
Two frames ordered by BOC have been built for Thai Airways and are being prepared for delivery or storage. These are LN 1683 and 1687.
One ‘Unidentified’ order has been built, painted for China Southern and is now in storage. This is LN 1641.
Two frames, one each on order for Aeroflot and BOC have not yet been reported in assembly and have no LN identified.
Five frames on order for Pakistan International are not expected to be built.

Cheers

Geoff

PlanesAtPaine · Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:12 pm

The third BOC/Thai frame rolled out on January 21st.

It's been pinging with hex 885283 in 216 for two weeks. Just filling in the blanks, would be WE868 66586/1690 HS-TTC 'Simongkhon'

TC957 · Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:59 pm

CX Flyboy wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:
CX Flyboy wrote:
Does anyone know how many more DHL 777Fs are due? I believe that even before the recently placed order, they still had several more coming from their previous order. Does anyone know which of the DHL partner airlines those frames will be assigned to? There is a rumour I am trying to confirm!

I wonder if this is the same rumour I’ve heard. That some might end up at Air Hong Kong?

The rumours says 3 of them all this year.

So there are 4 DHL 777Fs this year...after D-AALR, have the other 3 been assigned? And when are they due?

Aerologic are due to get D-AALS & AALT this year as well for DHL ops so that accounts for two of them.

airnorth · Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:18 pm

747classic wrote:
A total of four (4) will be delivered in 2021 , see : https://www.dhl.com/kr-en/home/press/pr ... -year.html

A video of the assembly and painting of DHL 777F, L/N 1599, N705GT , operated by Southern Air, delivered at 10 May 2019.
See : https://twitter.com/dhlexpress/status/1 ... 9375662082

Thanks for posting the video link, still amazes me to watch these planes go together, and the amount of detail in the paint is also a bit eye opening, for me at least!

Geoff1947 · Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:08 pm

PlanesAtPaine wrote:
The third BOC/Thai frame rolled out on January 21st.

It's been pinging with hex 885283 in 216 for two weeks. Just filling in the blanks, would be WE868 66586/1690 HS-TTC 'Simongkhon'

Thanks for the update.

Geoff1947 · Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:11 pm

Updated summary including LN1690.
.........
According to Boeing’s figures for the end of January 2021, there are now 14 unfilled orders for the 777-300ER.

This is down by 2 following the final 2 deliveries of the Novus order for British.

The status of the remaining 14 is as follows ;

Two frames for Aeroflot, previously in storage, are now back at Everett. These are LN 1652 and 1654.
Two frames for KLM have been built and are being prepared for delivery or storage. These are LN 1681 and 1686.
Three frames ordered by BOC have been built for Thai Airways and are being prepared for delivery or storage. These are LN 1683,1687 and 1690.
One ‘Unidentified’ order has been built, painted for China Southern and is now in storage. This is LN 1641.
One frame for Aeroflot has not yet been reported in assembly and has no LN identified.
Five frames on order for Pakistan International are not expected to be built.

Cheers

Geoff

CX Flyboy · Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:26 am

TC957 wrote:
CX Flyboy wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:

I wonder if this is the same rumour I’ve heard. That some might end up at Air Hong Kong?

The rumours says 3 of them all this year.

So there are 4 DHL 777Fs this year...after D-AALR, have the other 3 been assigned? And when are they due?

Aerologic are due to get D-AALS & AALT this year as well for DHL ops so that accounts for two of them.

Hmm well that doesn’t leave many frames to fulfil the rumour then!

TC957 · Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:23 pm

I thought DHL ordered a load more 777F's a few months ago ?

Opus99 · Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:30 pm

TC957 wrote:
I thought DHL ordered a load more 777F's a few months ago ?

Last month

747classic · Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:52 pm

TC957 wrote:
I thought DHL ordered a load more 777F's a few months ago ?

The first of this new DHL order of 8 777 freighters (+ 4 options) is scheduled to be delivered in 2022.
The four to be delivered DHL 777F aircraft in 2021 are from an earlier order.

Spetsnaz55 · Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:02 pm

There are 2 DHL 777F coming off the line in succession shortly

flyingclrs727 · Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:39 am

Geoff1947 wrote:
Despite further delays in the development of the 777-9, Boeing is keeping 777 production at 2 per month.

The most recent 24 frames , LN1670 - 1693, have comprised

8 777-9
8 777-300ER
7 777F
1 777-200LR

Presumably the next 24 will be predominantly 777Fs.

Geoff

Why would any airline want to buy a new 777-200LR? There are plenty of them parked in the desert. If I owned the production slot for that plane, I would sell it to an airline that flues the 777F.

Polot · Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:48 am

flyingclrs727 wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Despite further delays in the development of the 777-9, Boeing is keeping 777 production at 2 per month.

The most recent 24 frames , LN1670 - 1693, have comprised

8 777-9
8 777-300ER
7 777F
1 777-200LR

Presumably the next 24 will be predominantly 777Fs.

Geoff

Why would any airline want to buy a new 777-200LR? There are plenty of them parked in the desert. If I owned the production slot for that plane, I would sell it to an airline that flues the 777F.

You do not own the production slot nor are you allowed to sell the production slot. That slot belongs to Boeing, not you- you buy airplanes not production slots. You have to hope that you can favorably cancel your 77L order, that was likely placed when there were not tons of 77L sitting in the desert, without having to pay Boeing massive penalties.

RobK · Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:42 am

flyingclrs727 wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Despite further delays in the development of the 777-9, Boeing is keeping 777 production at 2 per month.

The most recent 24 frames , LN1670 - 1693, have comprised

8 777-9
8 777-300ER
7 777F
1 777-200LR

Presumably the next 24 will be predominantly 777Fs.

Geoff

Why would any airline want to buy a new 777-200LR? There are plenty of them parked in the desert. If I owned the production slot for that plane, I would sell it to an airline that flues the 777F.

It's not an airline order. It's an order from Turkmenhowayollary Agency (Turkmenistan State) probably for State/VIP use.

747classic · Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:55 am

RobK wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Despite further delays in the development of the 777-9, Boeing is keeping 777 production at 2 per month.

The most recent 24 frames , LN1670 - 1693, have comprised

8 777-9
8 777-300ER
7 777F
1 777-200LR

Presumably the next 24 will be predominantly 777Fs.

Geoff

Why would any airline want to buy a new 777-200LR? There are plenty of them parked in the desert. If I owned the production slot for that plane, I would sell it to an airline that flues the 777F.

It's not an airline order. It's an order from Turkmenhowayollary Agency (Turkmenistan State) probably for State/VIP use.

According the Boeing order webpage all four ordered 777-200LR aircraft for Turkmenistan are indicated by customer : "Turkmenhowayollary Agency"

Of the three already delivered 777-200LR aircraft, one (EZ-A777) is a VIP configured aircraft, the other two (EZ-A778 and EZ-A779) are in C28Y263 airline configuration..

RobK · Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:00 am

I am aware of that. My point still stands that this is not your 'traditonal' airline order. I still find it unlikely that this will be for pax use considering that EZ-A779 hasn't flown for a year and only did a single 3.5 hour round trip to IST per day and EZ-A778 only flies sporadic flights every few weeks to random destinations which are not scheduled services.

MEA-707 · Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:50 pm

A country like Turkmenistan mainly makes orders like that for political and prestige reasons. Economics are not a priority. Perhaps earlier Boeing orders smoothened the US-Turkmenistan relationship. Their dictator wants to take delivery of a new aircraft, even while the type is a bit obsolete (compare to the middle eastern Sheikhs still ordering 707s in 1977 or a single 747SP in 1987). Even while a second hand Etihad/Air India aircraft would have been cheaper to purchase and operate, he would never want to be seen in a hand-me down.

747classic · Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:50 pm

I did some further research into the four Turkmenistan 777-200LR aircraft :

L/N 889 C/N 39548 B777-22KLR EZ-A777 TURKMENISTAN (WD091) VIP configuration
L/N 1181 C/N 42296 B777-22KLR EZ-A778 TURKMENISTAN (WD121) airline configuration C28Y263
L/N 1194 C/N 42297 B777-22KLR EZ-A779 TURKMENISTAN (WD122) airline configuration C28Y263
L/N 1691 C/N 66893 B777-200LR EZ-A780 (N55061) TURKMENISTAN (WD123)

L/N 889, EZ-A777, has been built according an unique variable (tabulation) number WD091, indicating a different customer specification.
The last three have been built according one variable number block (WD121-123) , indicating the same (airline) configuration ?

The777Man · Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:11 pm

747classic wrote:
RobK wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:

Why would any airline want to buy a new 777-200LR? There are plenty of them parked in the desert. If I owned the production slot for that plane, I would sell it to an airline that flues the 777F.

It's not an airline order. It's an order from Turkmenhowayollary Agency (Turkmenistan State) probably for State/VIP use.

According the Boeing order webpage all four ordered 777-200LR aircraft for Turkmenistan are indicated by customer : "Turkmenhowayollary Agency"

Of the three already delivered 777-200LR aircraft, one (EZ-A777) is a VIP configured aircraft, the other two (EZ-A778 and EZ-A779) are in C28Y263 airline configuration..

Interesting to note is that A777 has white engines while the other ones green; perhaps the use will be determined when we see the colors of the engines ?

The777Man

RobK · Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:50 am

The 737 BBJ is also white. Could be a thing. We'll see.

747classic · Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:51 am

Difficult to see behind the RH tree, but the engine cowling looks to be green.

EZ-A780, KPAE, Jan 29thh 2021, just after roll-out.

Original uploaded by Matt Cawby at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/13 ... 8193449984

Geoff1947 · Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:50 pm

Does anybody have information they can share about LN1694 and 1695 ? Someone suggested one of them would be another 777F for DHL.

Geoff

JannEejit · Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:10 pm

I'm curious about how DHL orders and allocates new aircraft. Do they operate a central purchasing unit, or is it up to the individual constituent carriers operating under the DHL umbrella to order as required ?

Geoff1947 · Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:20 pm

JannEejit wrote:
I'm curious about how DHL orders and allocates new aircraft. Do they operate a central purchasing unit, or is it up to the individual constituent carriers operating under the DHL umbrella to order as required ?

Boeing shows recent deliveries as DHL, in the past they’ve also used DHL International but not for a long time. Unfilled orders for the 777F are shown as a mix of DHL (4)and DHL Aviation Americas (8).

Geoff

Spetsnaz55 · Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:23 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
Does anybody have information they can share about LN1694 and 1695 ? Someone suggested one of them would be another 777F for DHL.

Geoff

94 is yes..95 is not. 95 is a 300er. You can probably guess who the 300er belongs to

Geoff1947 · Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:26 pm

Spetsnaz55 wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
Does anybody have information they can share about LN1694 and 1695 ? Someone suggested one of them would be another 777F for DHL.

Geoff

94 is yes..95 is not. 95 is a 300er. You can probably guess who the 300er belongs to

Thanks, Aeroflot ?

Geoff

TC957 · Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:52 pm

So, taking the doubtful PIA order out of the equation, as things stand 1695 will then be the final 77W to be built.

RobK · Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:20 am

1692 QTR
1693 DHL opb BOX
1694 DHL opb CKS
1695 AFL VP-BFC
1696 QTR
1697 FDX
1698 DHL opb ???
1699 FDX

TC957 · Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:04 am

Thanks for posting RobK…..just one query, in a previous post you mentioned one more QR Cargo 77F after the 3 recent deliveries but there seems to be more coming. 1696 the final one now ?

RobK · Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:11 am

Based on the Boeing public page showing they only have 2 frames outstanding, I assume so.

RobK · Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:35 am

Geoff1947 wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
I'm curious about how DHL orders and allocates new aircraft. Do they operate a central purchasing unit, or is it up to the individual constituent carriers operating under the DHL umbrella to order as required ?

Boeing shows recent deliveries as DHL, in the past they’ve also used DHL International but not for a long time. Unfilled orders for the 777F are shown as a mix of DHL (4)and DHL Aviation Americas (8).

Geoff

The original orders were from DHL Aviation Americas, however they were reassigned to DHL Network Operations (USA) Inc and delivered to them. Maybe Boeing hasn't yet reflected this on their public page, hence why 2 separate lines. As for what the exact arrangement is between "DHL" and the actual operating entity, I really don't know. The ones in DHL colours seem to have "operated by x" stickers on their noses so does that count as a lease, or sub-lease arrangement? No idea who pay the bills or whose crew flies them.

RobK · Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:54 am

1694 is N776CK.

I think 1698 is probably CKS as well. I'm guessing at N778CK which is reserved (N777CK is already taken by some tin)

747classic · Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:17 am

The most probably last to be assembled 777-200LR, EZ-A780, for Turkmenistan Airlines, made her first (B1) flight at February 16th with callsign BOE123, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE ... /KPAE/KPAE

N55061 (EZ-A780), KPAE, Feb 16th 2021

Original uploaded by Matt Cawby at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/13 ... 5912438785

747classic · Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:43 pm

RobK wrote:
1694 is N776CK.

I think 1698 is probably CKS as well. I'm guessing at N778CK which is reserved (N777CK is already taken by some tin)

According the Lufthansa Group fleet listing : D-AALR, D-AALS and D-AALT, all three to be delivered to DHL in 2021, are to be operated by Aerologic.
See : https://sites.google.com/site/lhgroupfleet/cargo/fleet
According DHL a total of four new DHL 777F aircraft will be delivered in 2021.

Geoff1947 · Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:33 pm

Updated summary including LN1695.
.........
Boeing’s figures for the end of January 2021 include 14 unfilled orders for the 777-300ER.

The status of these is as follows ;

Two frames for Aeroflot, previously in storage, are now back at Everett. These are LN 1652 and 1654.
One frame for Aeroflot is in assembly, this is LN 1695.
Two frames for KLM have been built and are being prepared for delivery or storage. These are LN 1681 and 1686.
Three frames ordered by BOC have been built for Thai Airways and are being prepared for delivery or storage. These are LN 1683, 1687 and 1690.
One ‘Unidentified’ order has been built, painted for China Southern and is stored at Victorville. This is LN 1641.
Five frames on order for Pakistan International are not expected to be built.

Cheers

Geoff

747classic · Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:56 am

N55061 (EZ-A780) was ferried to Portland for paint at Feb 18th with callsign BOE123, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE ... /KPAE/KPDX

EZ-A780, Portland (KPDX), Feb 18th 2021

747classic · Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:53 am

Delivery of Aeroflot VQ-BFN towards HKG with callsign SU7734 at Feb 25th 2021, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VQB ... /KPAE/VHHH

Original uploaded by Jennifer Schuld at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/13 ... 6777076737

Aircraft data : L/N 1652 C/N 65310 B777-300ER VQ-BFN AEROFLOT (WE350)

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