Airbus A220 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

qf789 · Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:55 pm

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qf789 · Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:30 am

Jetblue has taken delivery of its first A220-300, seen below arriving at JFK from BFM

https://twitter.com/SouthpawCapture/sta ... 86914?s=20

qf789 · Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:32 am

Air Canada A220-300 C-GNAM MSN 55105, engine run and taxi test at YMX (6 Jan)

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55105

SEU · Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:21 pm

qf789 wrote:
Jetblue has taken delivery of its first A220-300, seen below arriving at JFK from BFM

https://twitter.com/SouthpawCapture/sta ... 86914?s=20

That is a stunner

yyztpa2 · Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:54 pm

Delta took delivery of their 5th A220-300 on the 7th
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... u#263f8275

audidudi · Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:49 pm

yyztpa2 wrote:
Delta took delivery of their 5th A220-300 on the 7th
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... u#263f8275

DL took delivery of N306DU on 7th December 2020...one month ago! She's been in induction at ATL since.

qf789 · Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:49 am

Delta Airlines A220-100 N139DU MSN 50058, first test flight YMX-YMX (10 Jan)

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50058

qf789 · Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:41 am

Delta Airlines A220-100 N140DU MSN 50059, fourth test flight YMX-YMX (14 Jan)

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50059

rukundo · Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:37 am

First Airbus A220 for Air Austral and probably the first one for a French airline, if Air Austral take delivery of this aircraft before Air France:

https://www.facebook.com/MarkBrandonAvi ... 138837106/

lostsound · Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:04 pm

rukundo wrote:
First Airbus A220 for Air Austral and probably the first one for a French airline, if Air Austral take delivery of this aircraft before Air France:

https://www.facebook.com/MarkBrandonAvi ... 138837106/

Interesting it appears the a220s will replace their ATRs and sole Boeing 737-800. I guess it’s the right size for the Reunion - Africa market.

rukundo · Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:48 pm

lostsound wrote:
rukundo wrote:
First Airbus A220 for Air Austral and probably the first one for a French airline, if Air Austral take delivery of this aircraft before Air France:

https://www.facebook.com/MarkBrandonAvi ... 138837106/

Interesting it appears the a220s will replace their ATRs and sole Boeing 737-800. I guess it’s the right size for the Reunion - Africa market.

Yes, about St Pierre (the other airport in Reunion Island), i know that Air Mauritius serves the airport with A319s, they even sent the A330Neo (special flight), so the despite the short runway the A220 can land. But about Rodrigues in Mauritius, i think the runway is too short for the A220.

Lavdumper · Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:58 pm

How many more A220s for Delta expected this year? I assume most of their A220-100 orders have been filled - correct?

FlyGuyNash · Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:23 pm

Lavdumper wrote:
How many more A220s for Delta expected this year? I assume most of their A220-100 orders have been filled - correct?

6 more A220-100 are left. A couple months ago in our A220 fleet newsletter they mentioned deliveries for 2021 and not all 6 were suppose to be delivered. I believe since then the delivery schedule has changed again and now just I am waiting on Delta to upload the Q4 10Q to see if they have the updated delivery schedule in that.

MIflyer12 · Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:37 pm

I don't believe there will be a 4Q 10-Q. The Annual Report obviates that.

yyztpa2 · Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:25 pm

FlyGuyNash wrote:
Lavdumper wrote:
How many more A220s for Delta expected this year? I assume most of their A220-100 orders have been filled - correct?

6 more A220-100 are left. A couple months ago in our A220 fleet newsletter they mentioned deliveries for 2021 and not all 6 were suppose to be delivered. I believe since then the delivery schedule has changed again and now just I am waiting on Delta to upload the Q4 10Q to see if they have the updated delivery schedule in that.

6 or 7? Airbus December O&D shows 38 of 45 delivered. Website https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html is totalling 44 with 38 delivered, 2 in test, and 4 remaining - 1 missing.

FlyGuyNash · Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:09 pm

yyztpa2 wrote:
FlyGuyNash wrote:
Lavdumper wrote:
How many more A220s for Delta expected this year? I assume most of their A220-100 orders have been filled - correct?

6 more A220-100 are left. A couple months ago in our A220 fleet newsletter they mentioned deliveries for 2021 and not all 6 were suppose to be delivered. I believe since then the delivery schedule has changed again and now just I am waiting on Delta to upload the Q4 10Q to see if they have the updated delivery schedule in that.

6 or 7? Airbus December O&D shows 38 of 45 delivered. Website https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html is totalling 44 with 38 delivered, 2 in test, and 4 remaining - 1 missing.

Yes my mistake, 7 more are due.

qf789 · Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:22 am

Air Canada A220-300 C-GNAM MSN 55105, first test flight YMX-YMS (17 Jan), second test flight YMX-YMX (18 Jan)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-gnam

nathanater08 · Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:02 pm

qf789 wrote:
Jetblue has taken delivery of its first A220-300, seen below arriving at JFK from BFM

https://twitter.com/SouthpawCapture/sta ... 86914?s=20

Does anyone know exactly what date JetBlue A220 will enter service?

11C · Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:58 pm

nathanater08 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Jetblue has taken delivery of its first A220-300, seen below arriving at JFK from BFM

https://twitter.com/SouthpawCapture/sta ... 86914?s=20

Does anyone know exactly what date JetBlue A220 will enter service?

I think an educated guess would be that nobody knows the answer at this time. By nobody, I mean not even JetBlue. If someone knows better, please enlighten us all.

yyztpa2 · Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:17 pm

11C wrote:
nathanater08 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Jetblue has taken delivery of its first A220-300, seen below arriving at JFK from BFM

https://twitter.com/SouthpawCapture/sta ... 86914?s=20

Does anyone know exactly what date JetBlue A220 will enter service?

I think an educated guess would be that nobody knows the answer at this time. By nobody, I mean not even JetBlue. If someone knows better, please enlighten us all.

I think JetBlue has a good idea:
https://www.jetblue.com/flying-with-us/our-planes/A220
"It will be flying our Boston to Fort Lauderdale (and back!) route starting this June."
The last 10-Q filing in November has them taking another 7 this year.

Swiss03 · Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:10 am

Hi all,
Not sure if this has been discussed before, but what is the status of the last swiss A220-100 , last I heard it was supposed to be converted to a A220-300 order, if so what has happened to the original airframe?

Thanks for any updates

T4thH · Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:38 am

Swiss03 wrote:
Hi all,
Not sure if this has been discussed before, but what is the status of the last swiss A220-100 , last I heard it was supposed to be converted to a A220-300 order, if so what has happened to the original airframe?

Thanks for any updates

There were two half build A220 for Swiss, which have been parked for prolonged times, 50018 and 50019. 50018 was completed in 2019, but what has been seen, it is so much workload to bring the jet to up to date status, it is not worth to do it.
So most likely this half build frame will go the same way as the others (50007 to 50009 (as I know, these are scrapped) and also the A220-300 55017 (still "stored" outside or also already scrapped??), it will be parked for some more time and then scrapped.

Does someone has an up to date aerial/satellite image of the Mirabel airport? Are still two half build frames parked outside or is it reduced to one?

SwissCanuck · Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:29 pm

This is the end of the order for -100 (LX) I'm assuming? Because I've flown on an LX -100 ...

yyztpa2 · Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:29 pm

T4thH wrote:
Swiss03 wrote:
Hi all,
Not sure if this has been discussed before, but what is the status of the last swiss A220-100 , last I heard it was supposed to be converted to a A220-300 order, if so what has happened to the original airframe?

Thanks for any updates

There were two half build A220 for Swiss, which have been parked for prolonged times, 50018 and 50019. 50018 was completed in 2019, but what has been seen, it is so much workload to bring the jet to up to date status, it is not worth to do it.
So most likely this half build frame will go the same way as the others (50007 to 50009 (as I know, these are scrapped) and also the A220-300 55017 (still "stored" outside or also already scrapped??), it will be parked for some more time and then scrapped.

Does someone has an up to date aerial/satellite image of the Mirabel airport? Are still two half build frames parked outside or is it reduced to one?

50018 was delivered to Swiss - 50019 was not.

There is also 50017 which was originally destined for Korean and then updated to be an ACJ. This might also be fate for 50019 with the recent corporate jet launch.

Swiss is scheduled to take an additional 300 in 2021 in lieu of 50019.

11C · Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:45 pm

yyztpa2 wrote:
11C wrote:
nathanater08 wrote:

Does anyone know exactly what date JetBlue A220 will enter service?

I think an educated guess would be that nobody knows the answer at this time. By nobody, I mean not even JetBlue. If someone knows better, please enlighten us all.

I think JetBlue has a good idea:
https://www.jetblue.com/flying-with-us/our-planes/A220
"It will be flying our Boston to Fort Lauderdale (and back!) route starting this June."
The last 10-Q filing in November has them taking another 7 this year.

Your answer indicates that you didn’t read the original question. The poster wanted the date, as in the exact day it will fly its first revenue flight. I’m sure they have a target, but that seems to be “June.” The exact day can’t possibly be known at this time.

yyztpa2 · Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:59 pm

11C wrote:
yyztpa2 wrote:
11C wrote:

I think an educated guess would be that nobody knows the answer at this time. By nobody, I mean not even JetBlue. If someone knows better, please enlighten us all.

I think JetBlue has a good idea:
https://www.jetblue.com/flying-with-us/our-planes/A220
"It will be flying our Boston to Fort Lauderdale (and back!) route starting this June."
The last 10-Q filing in November has them taking another 7 this year.

Your answer indicates that you didn’t read the original question. The poster wanted the date, as in the exact day it will fly its first revenue flight. I’m sure they have a target, but that seems to be “June.” The exact day can’t possibly be known at this time.

My response was to "By nobody, I mean not even JetBlue."

A service entry would likely have a Program Manager who has defined milestone that teams are reporting against including that for introduction.

Might they change it for any number of reasons? Sure, but it should be expected they have a date.

Someone83 · Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:07 am

Next A220-100 to Delta delivered according to Skyliner

Airbus Canada A220 -171 50059 N140DU Delta Air Lines delivery 29jan21 YMX-MSP

Jetport · Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:42 pm

yyztpa2 wrote:
11C wrote:
nathanater08 wrote:

Does anyone know exactly what date JetBlue A220 will enter service?

I think an educated guess would be that nobody knows the answer at this time. By nobody, I mean not even JetBlue. If someone knows better, please enlighten us all.

I think JetBlue has a good idea:
https://www.jetblue.com/flying-with-us/our-planes/A220
"It will be flying our Boston to Fort Lauderdale (and back!) route starting this June."
The last 10-Q filing in November has them taking another 7 this year.

Six months seems like a very long time from delivery to revenue service for a very expensive capital outlay like a new aircraft. Is this normal, or is JetBlue just slow?

Polot · Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:33 pm

Jetport wrote:
yyztpa2 wrote:
11C wrote:

I think an educated guess would be that nobody knows the answer at this time. By nobody, I mean not even JetBlue. If someone knows better, please enlighten us all.

I think JetBlue has a good idea:
https://www.jetblue.com/flying-with-us/our-planes/A220
"It will be flying our Boston to Fort Lauderdale (and back!) route starting this June."
The last 10-Q filing in November has them taking another 7 this year.

Six months seems like a very long time from delivery to revenue service for a very expensive capital outlay like a new aircraft. Is this normal, or is JetBlue just slow?

It’s on the longer side but not unheard for a brand new type in an aircrafts fleet. But the pandemic has meant JetBlue is in no rush, and also airlines typically don’t like to start service with only one aircraft in the fleet.

11C · Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:34 pm

Jetport wrote:
yyztpa2 wrote:
11C wrote:

I think an educated guess would be that nobody knows the answer at this time. By nobody, I mean not even JetBlue. If someone knows better, please enlighten us all.

I think JetBlue has a good idea:
https://www.jetblue.com/flying-with-us/our-planes/A220
"It will be flying our Boston to Fort Lauderdale (and back!) route starting this June."
The last 10-Q filing in November has them taking another 7 this year.

Six months seems like a very long time from delivery to revenue service for a very expensive capital outlay like a new aircraft. Is this normal, or is JetBlue just slow?

It is a long time, but it is also a new fleet type. Does anyone remember how “well” the 190 introduction into service went? I would say that the memory of that experience is still fresh enough, and it will not be repeated.

lightsaber · Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:47 am

11C wrote:
Jetport wrote:
yyztpa2 wrote:

I think JetBlue has a good idea:
https://www.jetblue.com/flying-with-us/our-planes/A220
"It will be flying our Boston to Fort Lauderdale (and back!) route starting this June."
The last 10-Q filing in November has them taking another 7 this year.

Six months seems like a very long time from delivery to revenue service for a very expensive capital outlay like a new aircraft. Is this normal, or is JetBlue just slow?

It is a long time, but it is also a new fleet type. Does anyone remember how “well” the 190 introduction into service went? I would say that the memory of that experience is still fresh enough, and it will not be repeated.

The E190 was a case of JetBlue being the launch customer and like any new aircraft, there were issues. Too many for JetBlue. 15 years ago we had a thread on JetBlue's on-time rate and the E190 was a problem for them, in particular at first:
viewtopic.php?t=384329

The A220 is different. Swiss, AirBaltic, and Delta took care of the teething issues of a new type. I agree that was a very bad memory for JetBlue and is probably part of why they went with the A220 (more technically savy customers who initiated the aircraft into service).

However, route proving and crew familiarization seem to be given more time. It will be interesting to see how quickly the A220s change the network.

Lightsaber

qf789 · Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:54 am

Delta Airlines A220-100 N139DU MSN 50058, second test flight YMX-YMX (22 Jan)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-foya

qf789 · Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:22 am

Movements for 25 January 2021

Air Canada A220-300 C-GNAM MSN 55105, third test flight YMX-YMX

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-gnam

Delta Airlines A220-300 N307DU MSN 55096, customer acceptance flight BFM-BFM

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55096

qf789 · Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:26 am

Delta Airlines A220-100 N140DU MSN 50059, first test flight YMX-YMX (26 Jan)

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50059

timf · Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:42 pm

qf789 wrote:
Delta Airlines A220-100 N140DU MSN 50059, first test flight YMX-YMX (26 Jan)

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50059

First test flight? That showed delivered a few posts ago.

qf789 · Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:50 pm

timf wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Delta Airlines A220-100 N140DU MSN 50059, first test flight YMX-YMX (26 Jan)

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50059

First test flight? That showed delivered a few posts ago.

How about you re read both posts and pay particular attention to the dates as stated in both posts

audidudi · Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:54 pm

qf789 wrote:
Delta Airlines A220-100 N140DU MSN 50059, first test flight YMX-YMX (26 Jan)

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50059

Another possible confusion here is that this was its fifth test flight on 26 Jan 2021, not its first, as confirmed on the link. The first test flight was on 16 Dec 2020. Thanks.

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/50059

yyztpa2 · Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:47 pm

Delta N139DU 50058 scheduled for delivery flight on Feb 5 as DAL9936
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n139du

qf789 · Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:41 am

Air Austral A220-300 MSN 55106, first test flight YMX-YMX (28 Jan)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-fovh

qf789 · Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:58 am

Delta Airlines A220-100 N139DU MSN 50058, third test flight YMX-YMX (29 Jan)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-foya

qf789 · Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:52 am

Delta Airlines A220-100 N139DU MSN 50058, customer acceptance flight YMX-YMX (30 Jan)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-foya

qf789 · Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:02 am

Delta Airlines A220-300 N307DU MSN 55096, delivered BFM-MSP (1 Feb)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n307du

TropicalSky · Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:06 pm

delivered yesterday YMX-MSP
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N139DU

qf789 wrote:
Delta Airlines A220-100 N139DU MSN 50058, customer acceptance flight YMX-YMX (30 Jan)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-foya

Skywatcher · Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:35 pm

I just reviewed the Airbus website.

They delivered 7 tails in Dec'20, 1 in Jan'21 and 2 so far in Feb'21.

audidudi · Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:07 pm

Latest movement for 8 February 2021...noteworthy because it's supposed to be going to DL, but has been delayed due to the fire suppression system incident on 13 September 2020...also not shown in the link is that this frame had several test flights in 2020 prior to this incident:

MSN 55069 Delta Air Lines A220-300 C-GPWC/N301DU, engine run and taxi check at BFM:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55069

oldJoe · Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:29 pm

audidudi wrote:
Latest movement for 8 February 2021...noteworthy because it's supposed to be going to DL, but has been delayed due to the fire suppression system incident on 13 September 2020...also not shown in the link is that this frame had several test flights in 2020 prior to this incident:

MSN 55069 Delta Air Lines A220-300 C-GPWC/N301DU, engine run and taxi check at BFM:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55069

What a nice surprise ! I couldn`t predict this coming

audidudi · Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:21 pm

[quote="audidudi"]Latest movement for 8 February 2021...noteworthy because it's supposed to be going to DL, but has been delayed due to the fire suppression system incident on 13 September 2020...also not shown in the link is that this frame had several test flights in 2020 prior to this incident:

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55069

Correction on the incident dates which I mistyped...it happened on 13 September 2019, so almost 17 months ago.

audidudi · Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:44 pm

Latest movement for 9 February 2021:

MSN 10069 Delta Air Lines A220-300 C-GPWC/N301DN, second engine run and taxi check at BFM. Also another correction due to getting the dates mixed up...this frame has not had its maiden test flight yet as the previously mentioned incident happened during its production...my bad!

https://aibfamily.flights/A220/55069

qf789 · Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:35 am

Air Canada A220-300 C-GZTH MSN 55109, first test flight YMX-YMX (4 Feb)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-gtzh

qf789 · Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:09 am

Air Canada A220-300 C-GZTH MSN 55109, second test flight YMX-YMX (6 Feb)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-gtzh

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