Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

qf789 · Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:18 pm

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qf789 · Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:50 am

Qatar Airways A350-1000 A7-ANS MSN 420 has been delivered TLS-DOH

https://twitter.com/TLSWatch/status/134 ... 71144?s=20

audidudi · Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:09 am

Latest movement for 5 January 2021:

MSN 464 Singapore Airlines A359 F-WZGC/9V-SHT, Engine Run and Taxi Check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/464

audidudi · Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:12 am

qf789 wrote:
Qatar Airways A350-1000 A7-ANS MSN 420 has been delivered TLS-DOH

https://twitter.com/TLSWatch/status/134 ... 71144?s=20

Just so everyone knows, this delivery was on 31 December 2020 as confirmed by the "Twitter" link, and recorded by me in the 2020 thread (now locked).

audidudi · Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:16 am

Latest movements for 6 January 2021:

MSN 285 Hainan Airlines A359 F-WZNZ/B-xxxx, Fourteenth Test Flight at TLS...(includes Ferry/Test Flights at both CHR and LDE):

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/285

MSN 423 China Eastern Airlines A359 F-WZNX/B-30IJ, Engine Run and Taxi Check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/423

qf789 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:27 pm

Air China A359 MSN 465, taxi test and RTO at TLS (7 Jan)

https://twitter.com/cliper31/status/134 ... 53505?s=20

qf789 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:28 pm

Some stored A350's on the flightline at TLS (7 Jan)

https://twitter.com/_avia_13/status/134 ... 15778?s=20

oldJoe · Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:19 am

audidudi wrote:
Latest movements for 6 January 2021:

MSN 285 Hainan Airlines A359 F-WZNZ/B-xxxx, Fourteenth Test Flight at TLS...(includes Ferry/Test Flights at both CHR and LDE):

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/285

MSN 423 China Eastern Airlines A359 F-WZNX/B-30IJ, Engine Run and Taxi Check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/423

I wonder why MSN 285 is hopping between TLS and CHR and LDE in a time where OEM`s are burning cash ? Fuel for free ???

audidudi · Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:43 am

Latest movements for 7 January 2021:

MSN 308 ALAFCO A359 F-WZFU/B-xxxx, Thirteenth Test Flight at TLS...(includes Ferry/Test Flights at CHR and LDE):

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/308

MSN 338 ALAFCO A359 F-WZFG/B-xxxx, Ferry Flight from CHR>TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/338

MSN 465 China Airlines A359 F-WZNL/B-xxxx, Taxi Check and RTO at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/465

audidudi · Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:25 am

Latest movement for 8 January 2021...(Correction to MSN 465 above...should be Air China):

MSN 465 Air China A359 F-WZNL/B-xxxx, Maiden Test Flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/465

Polot · Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:16 pm

oldJoe wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Latest movements for 6 January 2021:

MSN 285 Hainan Airlines A359 F-WZNZ/B-xxxx, Fourteenth Test Flight at TLS...(includes Ferry/Test Flights at both CHR and LDE):

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/285

MSN 423 China Eastern Airlines A359 F-WZNX/B-30IJ, Engine Run and Taxi Check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/423

I wonder why MSN 285 is hopping between TLS and CHR and LDE in a time where OEM`s are burning cash ? Fuel for free ???

Some stored aircraft are getting routine test flights to ensure they remain in proper condition. It is entirely possibly something popped up during a test flight at CHR that Airbus decided was best addressed by their staff at TLS.

audidudi · Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:37 pm

Latest movement for 11 January 2021:

MSN 429 Aeroflot A359 F-WZNE/VP-BXD, Second Test Flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/429

audidudi · Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:05 am

Latest movement for 12 January 2021:

MSN 459 Iberia F-WWIW/EC-NMD, Engine Run and Taxi Check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/459

audidudi · Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:01 am

Latest movements for 13 January 2021:

MSN 464 Singapore Airlines A359 F-WZGC/9V-SHT, Second Test Flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/464

MSN 473 British Airways A350-1000 F-WZNC/G-XWBI, Spotted at TLS in full c/s, without engines installed:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/473

audidudi · Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:20 am

Latest movement for 14 January 2021:

MSN 452 China Eastern Airlines A359 F-WZNS/B-xxxx, Ferried from TLS>CHR for Storage:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/452

audidudi · Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:30 pm

Latest movement for 15 January 2021:

MSN 428 Aeroflot A359 F-WZFR/VP-BXA, Eighth Test Flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/428

Agent · Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:45 am

oldJoe wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Latest movements for 6 January 2021:

MSN 285 Hainan Airlines A359 F-WZNZ/B-xxxx, Fourteenth Test Flight at TLS...(includes Ferry/Test Flights at both CHR and LDE):

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/285

MSN 423 China Eastern Airlines A359 F-WZNX/B-30IJ, Engine Run and Taxi Check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/423

I wonder why MSN 285 is hopping between TLS and CHR and LDE in a time where OEM`s are burning cash ? Fuel for free ???

For keeping the aircraft in flying conditions, fuel is the least expensive part at this point.

oldJoe · Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:11 pm

Agent wrote:
oldJoe wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Latest movements for 6 January 2021:

MSN 285 Hainan Airlines A359 F-WZNZ/B-xxxx, Fourteenth Test Flight at TLS...(includes Ferry/Test Flights at both CHR and LDE):

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/285

MSN 423 China Eastern Airlines A359 F-WZNX/B-30IJ, Engine Run and Taxi Check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/423

I wonder why MSN 285 is hopping between TLS and CHR and LDE in a time where OEM`s are burning cash ? Fuel for free ???

For keeping the aircraft in flying conditions, fuel is the least expensive part at this point.

When I look for example at MSN 187 which is in storage at LDE since September 2019 without any flight I was wondering what is behind MSN 285 flying ?
Why not keeping MSN 124 , 153 , 168 , 187 , all stored at LDE in "flying conditions ?

audidudi · Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:05 pm

oldJoe wrote:

When I look for example at MSN 187 which is in storage at LDE since September 2019 without any flight I was wondering what is behind MSN 285 flying ?
Why not keeping MSN 124 , 153 , 168 , 187 , all stored at LDE in "flying conditions ?

MSNs 124, 153, 168 and 187 belong to HX (Hong Kong Airlines), were all delivered, and are now stored at LDE. MSNs 283, 285, 308, 323 and 388 are all undelivered NTU frames from other Chinese airlines and are awaiting future delivery.

oldJoe · Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:25 pm

audidudi wrote:
oldJoe wrote:

When I look for example at MSN 187 which is in storage at LDE since September 2019 without any flight I was wondering what is behind MSN 285 flying ?
Why not keeping MSN 124 , 153 , 168 , 187 , all stored at LDE in "flying conditions ?

MSNs 124, 153, 168 and 187 belong to HX (Hong Kong Airlines), were all delivered, and are now stored at LDE. MSNs 283, 285, 308, 323 and 388 are all undelivered NTU frames from other Chinese airlines and are awaiting future delivery.

Many of the NTU`s are from HNA Group which ordered for HX too at the time ?
As far as I know MSN 388 belongs to Etihad Airways delivered in May 2020 flown TLS - BOD and in storage since

audidudi · Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:51 pm

oldJoe wrote:
audidudi wrote:
oldJoe wrote:

When I look for example at MSN 187 which is in storage at LDE since September 2019 without any flight I was wondering what is behind MSN 285 flying ?
Why not keeping MSN 124 , 153 , 168 , 187 , all stored at LDE in "flying conditions ?

MSNs 124, 153, 168 and 187 belong to HX (Hong Kong Airlines), were all delivered, and are now stored at LDE. MSNs 283, 285, 308, 323 and 388 are all undelivered NTU frames from other Chinese airlines and are awaiting future delivery.

Many of the NTU`s are from HNA Group which ordered for HX too at the time ?
As far as I know MSN 388 belongs to Etihad Airways delivered in May 2020 flown TLS - BOD and in storage since

Correct on the HNA Group AFAIK.

My bad...I meant MSN 338, not 388!

oldJoe · Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:14 pm

audidudi wrote:
oldJoe wrote:
audidudi wrote:
MSNs 124, 153, 168 and 187 belong to HX (Hong Kong Airlines), were all delivered, and are now stored at LDE. MSNs 283, 285, 308, 323 and 388 are all undelivered NTU frames from other Chinese airlines and are awaiting future delivery.

Many of the NTU`s are from HNA Group which ordered for HX too at the time ?
As far as I know MSN 388 belongs to Etihad Airways delivered in May 2020 flown TLS - BOD and in storage since

Correct on the HNA Group AFAIK.

My bad...I meant MSN 338, not 388!

Don`t worry I am a human too !
I simply was hoping that you , which provides us with information on a daily basis , had a clue why all those ALAFCO birds do all these flights ?
edit : Thank you for great job !

Polot · Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:27 pm

oldJoe wrote:
audidudi wrote:
oldJoe wrote:

Many of the NTU`s are from HNA Group which ordered for HX too at the time ?
As far as I know MSN 388 belongs to Etihad Airways delivered in May 2020 flown TLS - BOD and in storage since

Correct on the HNA Group AFAIK.

My bad...I meant MSN 338, not 388!

Don`t worry I am a human too !
I simply was hoping that you , which provides us with information on a daily basis , had a clue why all those ALAFCO birds do all these flights ?
edit : Thank you for great job !

NTU means Airbus still owns the plane and is responsible for keeping in flying condition (which they do). The older frames are delivered but stored. That means the airline owns the frame and it is up to them to keep in flying condition and obviously HX has not been spending the money for regular test flights to do so.

oldJoe · Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:33 pm

Polot wrote:
oldJoe wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Correct on the HNA Group AFAIK.

My bad...I meant MSN 338, not 388!

Don`t worry I am a human too !
I simply was hoping that you , which provides us with information on a daily basis , had a clue why all those ALAFCO birds do all these flights ?
edit : Thank you for great job !

NTU means Airbus still owns the plane and is responsible for keeping in flying condition (which they do). The older frames are delivered but stored. That means the airline owns the frame and it is up to them to keep in flying condition and obviously HX has not been spending the money for regular test flights to do so.

I can`t predict or say for sure that there is no Airbus money involved in deals with HX or not !?

Polot · Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:39 pm

oldJoe wrote:
Polot wrote:
oldJoe wrote:

Don`t worry I am a human too !
I simply was hoping that you , which provides us with information on a daily basis , had a clue why all those ALAFCO birds do all these flights ?
edit : Thank you for great job !

NTU means Airbus still owns the plane and is responsible for keeping in flying condition (which they do). The older frames are delivered but stored. That means the airline owns the frame and it is up to them to keep in flying condition and obviously HX has not been spending the money for regular test flights to do so.

I can`t predict or say for sure that there is no Airbus money involved in deals with HX or not !?

Delivered means it’s officially the airline’s plane and responsibility. It doesn’t matter where the airline got financing from.

oldJoe · Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:39 pm

Polot wrote:
oldJoe wrote:
Polot wrote:
NTU means Airbus still owns the plane and is responsible for keeping in flying condition (which they do). The older frames are delivered but stored. That means the airline owns the frame and it is up to them to keep in flying condition and obviously HX has not been spending the money for regular test flights to do so.

I can`t predict or say for sure that there is no Airbus money involved in deals with HX or not !?

Delivered means it’s officially the airline’s plane and responsibility. It doesn’t matter where the airline got financing from.

It`s the airline`s plane as long as they pay their debt and if not paying it WAS their plane.
Good example was Skymark Airlines where Intrepid Aviation and Airbus held about two-thirds of Skymark`s debt and we know how this ended up.
Therefore it matters where the financing is coming from.

audidudi · Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:15 pm

Latest movements for 18 January 2021:

MSN 308 ALAFCO A359 F-WZFU / B-xxxx, ferried from TLS>LDE for storage:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/308

MSN 323 ALAFCO A359 F-WZFV / B-xxxx, ferried from LDE>TLS after storage:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/323

MSN 414 Aeroflot A359 F-WZFN / VQ-BFZ, ninth test flight / customer acceptance flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/414

MSN 459 Iberia A359 F-WWIW / EC-NMD, taxi check and RTO at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/459

MSN 465 Air China A359 F-WZNL / B-xxxx, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/465

audidudi · Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:22 pm

Latest movements for 19 January 2021:

MSN 285 Hainan Airlines A359 F-WZNZ / B-xxxx, ferried from TLS>LDE for storage:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/285

MSN 459 Iberia A359 F-WWIW / EC-NMD, maiden test flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/459

MSN 465 Air China A359 F-WZNL / B-xxxx, second test flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/465

audidudi · Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:40 pm

Latest movements for 20 January 2021:

MSN 435 Turkish Airlines A359 F-WZGZ / TC-LGC, seventh test flight / customer acceptance flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/435

MSN 449 China Southern Airlines A359 F-WZNQ / B-320S, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/449

audidudi · Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:31 am

Latest movements for 21 January 2021:

MSN 270 Hong Kong Airlines A359 F-WZFT / B-LGJ, ferried from LDE>TLS after storage:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/270

MSN 338 ALAFCO A359 F-WZFG / B-xxxx, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/338

MSN 449 China Southern Airlines A359 F-WZNQ / B-320S, taxi check and RTO at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/449

audidudi · Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:09 pm

No movements for 22 January 2021.

Delta350 · Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:14 pm

audidudi wrote:
No movements for 22 January 2021.

Ripa ronies

audidudi · Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:52 pm

Latest movements for 25 January 2021;

MSN 454 Turkish Airlines A359 F-WZFZ / TC-LGE, spotted at TLS in full c/s without engines installed:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/454

MSN 464 Singapore Airlines A359 F-WZGC / 9V-SHT, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/464

MSN 474 Air China A359 F-WZNM / B-xxxx, spotted at TLS in full c/s with engines installed:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/474

audidudi · Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:08 pm

No movements for 26 January 2021.

audidudi · Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:35 pm

Latest movements for 27 January 2021:

MSN 449 China Southern Airlines A359 F-WZNQ / B-320S, taxi check and RTO at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/449

MSN 465 Air China A359 F-WZNL / B-xxxx, third test flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/465

audidudi · Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:22 am

Latest movements for 28 January 2021:

MSN 323 ALAFCO A359 F-WZFV / B-xxxx, thirteenth flight at TLS (includes ferry flights to XFW and LDE):

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/323

MSN 435 Turkish Airlines A359 F-WZGZ / TC-LGC, delivered from TLS>IST. #1 in January...#1 in 2021...#407 total:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/435

MSN 442 Turkish Airlines A359 F-WZGK / TC-LGD, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/442

MSN 449 China Southern Airlines A359 F-WZNQ / B-320S, maiden test flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/449

DY789 · Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:11 am

Thank you for the updates as ever!

Who is the next "new customer" to accept the A35K?

MEA-707 · Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:16 am

DY789 wrote:
Thank you for the updates as ever!

Who is the next "new customer" to accept the A35K?

Starlux of Taiwan is the ONLY airline I can think of who has -1000s on order but doesn't have any yet. Or does anyone know more.

PM · Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:35 am

MEA-707 wrote:
DY789 wrote:
Thank you for the updates as ever!

Who is the next "new customer" to accept the A35K?

Starlux of Taiwan is the ONLY airline I can think of who has -1000s on order but doesn't have any yet. Or does anyone know more.

Asiana have 9 on order though there must be a question mark over whether they will ever be built.

Iran Air? :duck:

Japan Airlines (13)

LATAM (2)

Polot · Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:03 am

PM wrote:
MEA-707 wrote:
DY789 wrote:
Thank you for the updates as ever!

Who is the next "new customer" to accept the A35K?

Starlux of Taiwan is the ONLY airline I can think of who has -1000s on order but doesn't have any yet. Or does anyone know more.

Asiana have 9 on order though there must be a question mark over whether they will ever be built.

Iran Air?

Japan Airlines (13)

LATAM (2)

I think it’s questionable if LATAM will ever take any A35Ks.

audidudi · Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:39 pm

French Bee is probably the next airline to receive two A35Ks, to supplement their four A359s. But for a new airline, Starlux will be the first to receive their A350s with five A359s and twelve A35Ks on order.

JerseyFlyer · Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:32 pm

audidudi wrote:
French Bee is probably the next airline to receive two A35Ks, to supplement their four A359s. But for a new airline, Starlux will be the first to receive their A350s with five A359s and twelve A35Ks on order.

Since changed to 10 A359 and 9 A35k (not all may be direct orders)

https://onemileatatime.com/starlux-airl ... 0-900neos/

audidudi · Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:52 am

Latest movements for 29 January 2021;

MSN 459 Iberia A359 F-WWIW / EC-NMD, second test flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/459

MSN 479 Air France A359 F-WWAW / F-HTYG, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/a350/479

UAEflyer · Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:48 am

I thought EY ordered A35K, I know they are in Limbo but should be on the orders list of Airbus

audidudi · Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:22 pm

UAEflyer wrote:
I thought EY ordered A35K, I know they are in Limbo but should be on the orders list of Airbus

EY has five frames in storage at BOD, A6-XWA/A6-XWB/A6-XWC/A6-XWD and A6-XWE, the first four since 2019 and the fifth since 2020. All were "Delivered on Contract" before ferrying to storage.

audidudi · Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:05 am

Latest movements for 1 February 2021:

MSN 423 China Eastern Airlines A359 F-WZNX/B-301J, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/423

MSN 434 Cathay Pacific A359 F-WZHJ/B-LZO, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/434

MSN 442 Turkish Airlines F-WZGK/TC-LGD, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/442

MSN 479 Air France A359 F-WWAW/F-HTYG, taxi check and RTO at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/479

audidudi · Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:00 am

Latest movements for 2 February 2021:

MSN 434 Cathay Pacific A359 F-WZHJ/B-LZO, taxi check and RTO at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/434

MSN 442 Turkish Airlines A359 F-WZGK/TC-LGD, maiden test flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/442

MSN 479 Air France A359 F-WWAW/F-HTYG, maiden test flight at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/479

audidudi · Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:03 am

Latest movement for 3 February 2021:

MSN 338 ALAFCO A359 F-WZFG/B-xxxx, engine run and taxi check at TLS:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/338

Someone83 · Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:51 pm

SAS’ 5th A350 is both painted and got engines

https://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/50908677407/

audidudi · Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:08 pm

Latest movement for 4 February 2021:

MSN 459 Iberia A359 F-WWIW/EC-NMD, ferried from TLS>CHR for storage:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/459

MSN 484 Scandinavian Airlines A359 F-WZNV/SE-RSE, spotted at TLS in full c/s with engines installed:

https://aibfamily.flights/A350/484

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