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To comment on the last post in the 2020 thread, as someone who would love to use Eugene more for business trips to the east, connecting through PDX provides only limited options....it can mean two flights after PDX. If you're an AS frequent flyer, SEA is much better but options through other hubs (PHX, DFW, LAX) make more one-stop trips possible. DL and UA to SLC and DEN have that covered so maybe the Oneworld membership will drive that for AS / AA flights.

Hoping we'll see a return of the international flights at some point this year.

HND (start) and AMS (resume) on DL
FRA on Condor
YVR and YYC on AC?

KEF is gone, could it return?
LHR is gone for DL and BA

DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:

Hoping we'll see a return of the international flights at some point this year.

HND (start) and AMS (resume) on DL
FRA on Condor
YVR and YYC on AC?

KEF is gone, could it return?
LHR is gone for DL and BA

Unfortunately, Portland will probably be one of the last to return to regular international service. Can't imagine HND starts and AMS resume for several months, and it's clear that both require an adequate level of business traffic on top of tourism. Same goes for DE and FI, and LHR.

Currently, however, AC has been running PDX-YVR: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JZA ... /KPDX/CYVR
AS has been operating SJD, PVR, and CUN in addition to Y4's GDL flights.

DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:

Hoping we'll see a return of the international flights at some point this year.

HND (start) and AMS (resume) on DL
FRA on Condor
YVR and YYC on AC?

KEF is gone, could it return?
LHR is gone for DL and BA

When was the last time PDX had no intercontinental service? Has to be before LH in 2003 I think. Can’t recall if there were any gaps around the 2008 crisis. NW/DL maintained AMS and NRT while LH pulled out if I remember. I’m only like 74% sure though, correct me if I’m wrong.

AS has been operating SJD, PVR, and CUN in addition to Y4's GDL flights.

Y4 sent in a second GDL yesterday. About an hour after the normal Saturday afternoon arrival.

Does anyone have any idea how long the AS Mexico flights will run?

Y4 will be 6x a week going forward.

AS737MAX wrote:

DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:

Hoping we'll see a return of the international flights at some point this year.

HND (start) and AMS (resume) on DL
FRA on Condor
YVR and YYC on AC?

KEF is gone, could it return?
LHR is gone for DL and BA

Unfortunately, Portland will probably be one of the last to return to regular international service. Can't imagine HND starts and AMS resume for several months, and it's clear that both require an adequate level of business traffic on top of tourism. Same goes for DE and FI, and LHR.

Currently, however, AC has been running PDX-YVR: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JZA ... /KPDX/CYVR
AS has been operating SJD, PVR, and CUN in addition to Y4's GDL flights.

HND and AMS on DL- I think DL will continue to push out the start dates for these. These flights rely heavily on Business travel, which is nonexistent now unfortunately Probably wont return until 2022 unfortunately. There is also very little feed for DL on the Portland side for these flights.

BA to LHR-I think this new service has a chance of resuming sooner rather than later as PDX will technically be a Oneworld hub when Alaska enters OW, connecting a ONEWORLD hub to a oneworld hub. But only once things resume to normal in the UK(new nationawide lockdown announced).

FI and DE-I dont think we will see these carriers return to PDX this year:( Hope i'm wrong.

I wouldnt be surprised to see Aeromexico return to PDX this year with all the Americans flocking to Mexico recently. Aeromexico has also reintroduced their 737 max to the fleet, freeing up additional aircraft. Daily or 5x weekly service PDX-MEX wouldnt surprise me.

ANA787 wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

DeltaPSCFlyer wrote:

Hoping we'll see a return of the international flights at some point this year.

HND (start) and AMS (resume) on DL
FRA on Condor
YVR and YYC on AC?

KEF is gone, could it return?
LHR is gone for DL and BA

Unfortunately, Portland will probably be one of the last to return to regular international service. Can't imagine HND starts and AMS resume for several months, and it's clear that both require an adequate level of business traffic on top of tourism. Same goes for DE and FI, and LHR.

Currently, however, AC has been running PDX-YVR: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/JZA ... /KPDX/CYVR
AS has been operating SJD, PVR, and CUN in addition to Y4's GDL flights.

HND and AMS on DL- I think DL will continue to push out the start dates for these. These flights rely heavily on Business travel, which is nonexistent now unfortunately Probably wont return until 2022 unfortunately. There is also very little feed for DL on the Portland side for these flights.

BA to LHR-I think this new service has a chance of resuming sooner rather than later as PDX will technically be a Oneworld hub when Alaska enters OW, connecting a ONEWORLD hub to a oneworld hub. But only once things resume to normal in the UK(new nationawide lockdown announced).

FI and DE-I dont think we will see these carriers return to PDX this year:( Hope i'm wrong.

I wouldnt be surprised to see Aeromexico return to PDX this year with all the Americans flocking to Mexico recently. Aeromexico has also reintroduced their 737 max to the fleet, freeing up additional aircraft. Daily or 5x weekly service PDX-MEX wouldnt surprise me.

Agree. With the huge OW FF base in both PDX & LHR, BA just needs to wait for travel to pick up. When people are ready to fly again, LHR-PDX is guaranteed to be a success. Given that AA is also planning to launch SEA-LHR, BA could start by moving its 5x weekly summer frequency over to PDX depending on demand.

I do think BA PDX-LHR will happen at some point but I do not share the optimism that some have that it will occur in 2021. Not only is the UK heading into a strict lockdown and the rollout of vaccines in the US has been extremely slow, but BA also recently cut thirteen destinations permanently and three until October 2021 as per this post:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1446575&start=500#p22559013.

It includes places like ICN/KIX/YYC and so forth which are a bit higher up on the totem pole than PDX.

I can't see any scheduled intercontinental flying at PDX for 2021 but hopefully I am proven wrong.

zonks wrote:

I do think BA PDX-LHR will happen at some point but I do not share the optimism that some have that it will occur in 2021. Not only is the UK heading into a strict lockdown and the rollout of vaccines in the US has been extremely slow, but BA also recently cut thirteen destinations permanently and three until October 2021 as per this post:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1446575&start=500#p22559013.

It includes places like ICN/KIX/YYC and so forth which are a bit higher up on the totem pole than PDX.

I can't see any scheduled intercontinental flying at PDX for 2021 but hopefully I am proven wrong.

Agreed. If BA can't run ICN then PDX isn't even going to be on the drawing board.

Also of note: the concourse connector closed today to accommodate the work on the space just west of the existing terminal core.

https://portofportland.com/Newsroom/Con ... -and-Pets-
https://twitter.com/kbrug3/status/1346227932935512064

AS737MAX wrote:

zonks wrote:

I do think BA PDX-LHR will happen at some point but I do not share the optimism that some have that it will occur in 2021. Not only is the UK heading into a strict lockdown and the rollout of vaccines in the US has been extremely slow, but BA also recently cut thirteen destinations permanently and three until October 2021 as per this post:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1446575&start=500#p22559013.

It includes places like ICN/KIX/YYC and so forth which are a bit higher up on the totem pole than PDX.

I can't see any scheduled intercontinental flying at PDX for 2021 but hopefully I am proven wrong.

Agreed. If BA can't run ICN then PDX isn't even going to be on the drawing board.

Also of note: the concourse connector closed today to accommodate the work on the space just west of the existing terminal core.

https://portofportland.com/Newsroom/Con ... -and-Pets-
https://twitter.com/kbrug3/status/1346227932935512064

I am not sure that PDX and ICN are comparable, especially for BA. BA is weak in East Asia and is incredibly strong to the USA. Plus they have zero feed in ICN (+ competition from KE & OZ, both in competing alliances), whereas PDX will be a OW hub with numerous connection opportunities and no competition.

That being said, I didn’t mean that BA would launch it this year, more like S22/23.

A Cessna Citation 560 business jet with just the pilot and a passenger crashed in mountainous terrain in the Warm Springs Indian Reservation of central Oregon on Saturday:

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/ ... 2b411a1c5d

WARM SPRINGS, Ore. — Authorities say a small private business jet crashed in mountainous terrain in the Warm Springs Indian Reservation of central Oregon, killing the pilot and a single passenger on board.

Lt. Ron Gregory of the Warm Springs Tribal Police says officers were notified by air traffic controllers at about 2:30 p.m. PST Saturday of a possible crash in the Mutton Mountains on the reservation.

VASAviation of course has a video of the ATC communications:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkJ_I0USC0c

Listening to the ATC communications, the pilot didn't seem well, and the ATC picked up that something wasn't right fairly early on, but the pilot dismissed it. The pilot also didn't seem aware of the terrain, judging from the early reminder from ATC for a low altitude alert, to stay above 13,000ft, and to climb to 23,000ft.

Well i'll be damned.

G4 apparently adding PDX-IDA/SMX/MRY
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456575
https://www.allegiantair.com/interactive-routemap

AS737MAX wrote:

Well i'll be damned.

G4 apparently adding PDX-IDA/SMX/MRY
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456575
https://www.allegiantair.com/interactive-routemap

In case you're wondering, both IDA & MRY are new routes to PDX. AS announced SMX, but not sure if they ever flew it. If AS never started the route, then SMX is a new route to PDX as well.

I don’t think AS planned SMX, they planned SBP prior to COVID hitting.

However, the two are around 34 miles apart by car.

Wonder if we’ll see AS respond.

RWA380 wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

Well i'll be damned.

G4 apparently adding PDX-IDA/SMX/MRY
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456575
https://www.allegiantair.com/interactive-routemap

In case you're wondering, both IDA & MRY are new routes to PDX. AS announced SMX, but not sure if they ever flew it. If AS never started the route, then SMX is a new route to PDX as well.

They're both such niche routes that I'd love to add to my map, but just can't justify traveling right now. Hopefully they succeed and stick around. MRY might work the best of the three, but it's hard to tell because tourism demand is still so depressed.

1/5 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456403&p=22600101#p22600101

B6 JFK-PDX MAR 0.8>0.1[0.5]

1/13 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456623

AS ABQ-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS ANC-PDX FEB 1.9>0.6[1.8] MAR 3>1.8[1.9]
AS AUS-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS BIL-PDX FEB 1.6>1.0[1.6] MAR 2.0>1.5[0.8]
AS BOI-PDX FEB 6>3[6] MAR 8>5[7]
AS BOS-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.4[0.9]
AS BUR-PDX FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 3>1.9[1.9]
AS DAL-PDX FEB 1.9>0[1.8] MAR 3>1.3[2]
AS DCA-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS DEN-PDX FEB 1.6>1.0[1.6] MAR 2>1.5[0]
AS EUG-PDX FEB 1.8>0[1.8] MAR 3>1.3[3]
AS EWR-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.4[0.9]
AS FAT-PDX FEB 1.6>1.0[1.6] MAR 2.0>1.4[1.7]
AS FCA-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0]
AS GEG-PDX FEB 6>3[6] MAR 8>5[8]
AS HNL-PDX MAR 1.0>0.8[0.9]
AS JFK-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS LAX-PDX FEB 8>5[8] MAR 9>6[6]
AS LIH-PDX MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS MCI-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0]
AS MCO-PDX FEB 1.1>0.8[1.0]
AS MFR-PDX FEB 4>2.0[4] MAR 6>4[4]
AS MSO-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS MSP-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS OAK-PDX FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 3>1.9[1.7]
AS OGG-PDX FEB 1.6>1.0[1.6] MAR 2.0>1.4[1.9]
AS ONT-PDX FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 3>1.9[1.7]
AS ORD-PDX FEB 1.6>0.9[1.6] MAR 1.9>1.2[0.9]
AS PDX-PHX FEB 3>4[3]
AS PDX-RDM FEB 3>0.9[3] MAR 4>2[4]
AS PDX-RNO FEB 3>2.0[3] MAR 4>3[3]
AS PDX-SAN FEB 5>4[5] MAR 6>4[4]
AS PDX-SFO FEB 5>3[5] MAR 6>4[6]
AS PDX-SJC FEB 4>3[4] MAR 5>4[4]
AS PDX-SJD FEB 0.8>0.6[0.8]
AS PDX-SLC FEB 3>2.0[3] MAR 4>3[3]
AS PDX-STS FEB 1.6>0.3[1.6] MAR 2>0.9[0.9]
AS PDX-YVR FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
-
AS LAX-RDM MAR 1.9>1.4[0.9]
AS RDM-SFO MAR 1.9>1.5[0]

B6 FLL-PDX FEB 0.2>0[0.2] MAR 0.3>0[0]

NK LAS-PDX FEB 1.7>1.0[1.6]

UA EWR-PDX FEB 2>0[1.9]
UA DEN-PDX FEB 5>3[5]
UA IAD-PDX FEB 1.0>0[1.0]
UA IAH-PDX FEB 3>1.0[3]
UA ORD-PDX FEB 4>0.9[4]
UA PDX-SFO FEB 6>2[6]
-
UA EUG-LAX FEB 1.9>0.7[1.9]
UA EUG-ORD FEB 1.0>0[0.9]
UA EUG-SFO FEB 4>1.7[4]
-
UA DEN-RDM FEB 3>2.0[3]
UA RDM-SFO FEB 4>1.8[4]
-
UA LAX-MFR FEB 2.0>0.7[1.9]
UA MFR-SFO FEB 4>1.5[4]
-
UA PSC-SFO FEB 2.0>0[1.9]
UA DEN-PSC FEB 3>2[3]
UA ORD-PSC FEB 1.0>0[0.9]
-
UA ACV-DEN FEB 1.0>0[1.0]
UA ACV-LAX FEB 2>0.8[1.9]
UA ACV-SFO FEB 3>1.7[3]

I know it’s unlikely to happen, but an extra frequency on PDX-PHX is pretty cool. While WN has remained weak on this route frequency wise, AA and AS seem to be making frequent adjustments to PHX

AS737MAX wrote:

1/5 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456403&p=22600101#p22600101

B6 JFK-PDX MAR 0.8>0.1[0.5]

1/13 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456623

AS ABQ-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS ANC-PDX FEB 1.9>0.6[1.8] MAR 3>1.8[1.9]
AS AUS-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS BIL-PDX FEB 1.6>1.0[1.6] MAR 2.0>1.5[0.8]
AS BOI-PDX FEB 6>3[6] MAR 8>5[7]
AS BOS-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.4[0.9]
AS BUR-PDX FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 3>1.9[1.9]
AS DAL-PDX FEB 1.9>0[1.8] MAR 3>1.3[2]
AS DCA-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS DEN-PDX FEB 1.6>1.0[1.6] MAR 2>1.5[0]
AS EUG-PDX FEB 1.8>0[1.8] MAR 3>1.3[3]
AS EWR-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.4[0.9]
AS FAT-PDX FEB 1.6>1.0[1.6] MAR 2.0>1.4[1.7]
AS FCA-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0]
AS GEG-PDX FEB 6>3[6] MAR 8>5[8]
AS HNL-PDX MAR 1.0>0.8[0.9]
AS JFK-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS LAX-PDX FEB 8>5[8] MAR 9>6[6]
AS LIH-PDX MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS MCI-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0]
AS MCO-PDX FEB 1.1>0.8[1.0]
AS MFR-PDX FEB 4>2.0[4] MAR 6>4[4]
AS MSO-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS MSP-PDX FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
AS OAK-PDX FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 3>1.9[1.7]
AS OGG-PDX FEB 1.6>1.0[1.6] MAR 2.0>1.4[1.9]
AS ONT-PDX FEB 2>1.0[2] MAR 3>1.9[1.7]
AS ORD-PDX FEB 1.6>0.9[1.6] MAR 1.9>1.2[0.9]
AS PDX-PHX FEB 3>4[3]
AS PDX-RDM FEB 3>0.9[3] MAR 4>2[4]
AS PDX-RNO FEB 3>2.0[3] MAR 4>3[3]
AS PDX-SAN FEB 5>4[5] MAR 6>4[4]
AS PDX-SFO FEB 5>3[5] MAR 6>4[6]
AS PDX-SJC FEB 4>3[4] MAR 5>4[4]
AS PDX-SJD FEB 0.8>0.6[0.8]
AS PDX-SLC FEB 3>2.0[3] MAR 4>3[3]
AS PDX-STS FEB 1.6>0.3[1.6] MAR 2>0.9[0.9]
AS PDX-YVR FEB 0.6>0[0.6] MAR 1.0>0.5[0.9]
-
AS LAX-RDM MAR 1.9>1.4[0.9]
AS RDM-SFO MAR 1.9>1.5[0]

B6 FLL-PDX FEB 0.2>0[0.2] MAR 0.3>0[0]

NK LAS-PDX FEB 1.7>1.0[1.6]

UA EWR-PDX FEB 2>0[1.9]
UA DEN-PDX FEB 5>3[5]
UA IAD-PDX FEB 1.0>0[1.0]
UA IAH-PDX FEB 3>1.0[3]
UA ORD-PDX FEB 4>0.9[4]
UA PDX-SFO FEB 6>2[6]
-
UA EUG-LAX FEB 1.9>0.7[1.9]
UA EUG-ORD FEB 1.0>0[0.9]
UA EUG-SFO FEB 4>1.7[4]
-
UA DEN-RDM FEB 3>2.0[3]
UA RDM-SFO FEB 4>1.8[4]
-
UA LAX-MFR FEB 2.0>0.7[1.9]
UA MFR-SFO FEB 4>1.5[4]
-
UA PSC-SFO FEB 2.0>0[1.9]
UA DEN-PSC FEB 3>2[3]
UA ORD-PSC FEB 1.0>0[0.9]
-
UA ACV-DEN FEB 1.0>0[1.0]
UA ACV-LAX FEB 2>0.8[1.9]
UA ACV-SFO FEB 3>1.7[3]

1/19 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456891

AC PDX-YVR FEB 3>0[4] MAR 4>0[4] APR 4>3[4]
AC PDX-YYC FEB 0.5>0[0.9] MAR 0.9>0[0.8] APR 0.9>0.6[0.8]

AS BZN-PDX FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
AS CUN-PDX MAR 0.3>0[0]
AS OGG-PDX MAR 1.4>1.8[1.9]
AS PDX-PVR MAR 0.9>0[0.9]
AS PDX-SBP MAR 0.5>0[0] APR 1.0>0[0] MAY 1.0>0[0] JUN 1.0>0.5[0]
AS PDX-SJD MAR 0.8>0[0.9]
AS PDX-STS FEB 0.3>0[2]
AS PDX-YVR MAR 0.5>0[0.9]

NK LAS-PDX JUN 0.5>3[0.6] JUL 0>3[0.4] SEP 0>0.7[0.8]

AS737MAX wrote:

1/19 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456891

AC PDX-YVR FEB 3>0[4] MAR 4>0[4] APR 4>3[4]
AC PDX-YYC FEB 0.5>0[0.9] MAR 0.9>0[0.8] APR 0.9>0.6[0.8]

AS BZN-PDX FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
AS CUN-PDX MAR 0.3>0[0]
AS OGG-PDX MAR 1.4>1.8[1.9]
AS PDX-PVR MAR 0.9>0[0.9]
AS PDX-SBP MAR 0.5>0[0] APR 1.0>0[0] MAY 1.0>0[0] JUN 1.0>0.5[0]
AS PDX-SJD MAR 0.8>0[0.9]
AS PDX-STS FEB 0.3>0[2]
AS PDX-YVR MAR 0.5>0[0.9]

NK LAS-PDX JUN 0.5>3[0.6] JUL 0>3[0.4] SEP 0>0.7[0.8]

Odd the Mexican destinations zeroed out for spring break. Hasn’t AS always served at least PVR/SJD during this time?

pdxav8r wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

1/19 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456891

AC PDX-YVR FEB 3>0[4] MAR 4>0[4] APR 4>3[4]
AC PDX-YYC FEB 0.5>0[0.9] MAR 0.9>0[0.8] APR 0.9>0.6[0.8]

AS BZN-PDX FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
AS CUN-PDX MAR 0.3>0[0]
AS OGG-PDX MAR 1.4>1.8[1.9]
AS PDX-PVR MAR 0.9>0[0.9]
AS PDX-SBP MAR 0.5>0[0] APR 1.0>0[0] MAY 1.0>0[0] JUN 1.0>0.5[0]
AS PDX-SJD MAR 0.8>0[0.9]
AS PDX-STS FEB 0.3>0[2]
AS PDX-YVR MAR 0.5>0[0.9]

NK LAS-PDX JUN 0.5>3[0.6] JUL 0>3[0.4] SEP 0>0.7[0.8]

Odd the Mexican destinations zeroed out for spring break. Hasn’t AS always served at least PVR/SJD during this time?

Not sure - seems even in normal times AS is all over the place with PDX-PVR/SJD. Also of note, looks like SBP won't be starting at all. Had been set to begin September/October, then moved to November, then moved to March.

AS737MAX wrote:

pdxav8r wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

1/19 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1456891

AC PDX-YVR FEB 3>0[4] MAR 4>0[4] APR 4>3[4]
AC PDX-YYC FEB 0.5>0[0.9] MAR 0.9>0[0.8] APR 0.9>0.6[0.8]

AS BZN-PDX FEB 1.0>0.6[1.1]
AS CUN-PDX MAR 0.3>0[0]
AS OGG-PDX MAR 1.4>1.8[1.9]
AS PDX-PVR MAR 0.9>0[0.9]
AS PDX-SBP MAR 0.5>0[0] APR 1.0>0[0] MAY 1.0>0[0] JUN 1.0>0.5[0]
AS PDX-SJD MAR 0.8>0[0.9]
AS PDX-STS FEB 0.3>0[2]
AS PDX-YVR MAR 0.5>0[0.9]

NK LAS-PDX JUN 0.5>3[0.6] JUL 0>3[0.4] SEP 0>0.7[0.8]

Odd the Mexican destinations zeroed out for spring break. Hasn’t AS always served at least PVR/SJD during this time?

Not sure - seems even in normal times AS is all over the place with PDX-PVR/SJD. Also of note, looks like SBP won't be starting at all. Had been set to begin September/October, then moved to November, then moved to March.

Hadn't noticed SBP is 0.5 in June. Looks like the start has been moved to June 17.

pdxav8r wrote:

Odd the Mexican destinations zeroed out for spring break. Hasn’t AS always served at least PVR/SJD during this time?

Not really that odd. The US is starting negative COVID tests for entry into the country for all travelers. That's going to kill demand for international travel further until airlines, airports, and/or governments can put in place a quick testing locations outside the US. Of course this applies to other countries that are requiring negative COVID tests prior to travel.

December 2020 PDX traffic: 484,040; down 71.3% from 1,689,074 in 2019
YTD 2020 PDX traffic: 7,084,543; down 64.4% from 19,891,365 in 2019

https://www.portofportland.com/FinanceAndStatistics

1/27 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457159

AA DFW-PDX MAR 5>3[3]
AA LAX-PDX MAR 1.9>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX MAR 1.5>0.5[0.9]
AA PDX-PHX MAR 4>3[2]

DL DTW-PDX MAR 1.0>0[0.6]
DL JFK-PDX MAR 1.0>0[0.9]
DL LAX-PDX MAR 4>3[4]
DL MSP-PDX MAR 4>2[3]
DL PDX-SEA MAR 6>5[7]
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DL EUG-SLC MAR 3>1.8[1.7]
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DL RDM-SLC MAR 3>1.7[1.7]
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DL MFR-SLC MAR 3>1.7[1.7]
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DL PSC-SEA MAR 4>3[3]

MFR is targeting DFW flights

https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/Medfo ... 84931.html

Ishrion wrote:

MFR is targeting DFW flights

https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/Medfo ... 84931.html

They need to wait and see how EUG-DFW does when AA starts. EUG is a bigger market, so if that can't make it, MFR-DFW would be doubtful.
But, if it's a go, I'll be on it.

2/2 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457377

AA ORD-PDX MAR 0.5>0.9[1.5]

AS ANC-PDX MAR 1.8>1.0[1.9]
AS BIL-PDX MAR 1.5>1.0[1.5]
AS BOI-PDX MAR 5>3[5]
AS BOS-PDX MAR 0.4>0[0.4]
AS BUR-PDX MAR 1.9>1.0[1.9]
AS DAL-PDX MAR 1.3>0[1.3]
AS DEN-PDX MAR 1.5>1.0[1.5]
AS EUG-PDX MAR 1.4>0[1.3]
AS EWR-PDX MAR 0.4>0[0.4]
AS FAT-PDX MAR 1.4>1.0[1.4]
AS FCA-PDX MAR 0.5>0[0.5]
AS GEG-PDX MAR 5>3[5]
AS JFK-PDX MAR 0.5>0[0.5]
AS LIH-PDX MAR 0.5>0[0.5]
AS MCI-PDX MAR 0.5>0[0.5]
AS MFR-PDX MAR 4>2[4]
AS MSO-PDX MAR 0.5>0[0.5]
AS MSP-PDX MAR 0.5>0[0.5]
AS OAK-PDX MAR 1.9>1.0[1.9]
AS ONT-PDX MAR 1.9>1.0[1.9]
AS ORD-PDX MAR 1.2>0.8[1.2]
AS PAE-PDX MAR 0.9>0[0.9] APR 2>0[3] MAY 2>0[3] JUN 2>0[0] JUL 2>0[0] AUG 2>0[2] SEP 2.0>1.5[0]
AS PDX-RDM MAR 2>1.0[2]
AS PDX-RNO MAR 3>2.0[3]
AS PDX-SEA MAR 13>15[13] MAY 16>17[14]
AS PDX-SFO MAR 4>5[4]
AS PDX-SJC MAR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SLC MAR 3>2[3]
AS PDX-STS MAR 0.9>0.5[0.9]
AS PDX-TUS MAR 0.7>1.0[0.7] MAY 0.8>1.0[1.6]
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AS LAX-RDM MAR 1.4>1.0[1.4]
AS RDM-SFO MAR 1.4>1.0[1.4]
AS RDM-SJC MAR 0.5>0[0.5] APR 1.0>0[0] MAY 1.0>0[0] JUN 1.0>0[0] JUL 1.0>0[0] AUG 1.0>0[0] SEP 1.0>0.8[0]
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AS MFR-SEA MAR 5>6[5]
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AS PSC-SEA MAR 5>6[5]

DL HND-PDX APR 0.7>0[0.1]
DL LAX-PDX MAR 3>4[4]

G4 IDA-PDX JUN 0>0.3[0] JUL 0>0.3[0]
G4 MRY-PDX JUN 0>0.3[0] JUL 0>0.3[0]
G4 PDX-SMX MAY 0>0.3[0] JUN 0>0.3[0] JUL 0>0.3[0]
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G4 AZA-EUG MAR 0.2>0.5[0.2] APR 0.1>0.3[0.6] MAY 0.1>0.3[0.3] JUL 0.2>0.4[0.3]
G4 EUG-LAS APR 0.1>0.3[0.3]
G4 EUG-OAK APR 0.1>0.3[0.4]
G4 EUG-PSP APR 0>0.2[0]
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G4 AZA-RDM MAR 0.1>0.3[0.1] APR 0.1>0.3[0.3] MAY 0.1>0.3[0.3]
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G4 LAS-MFR MAR 0.2>0.5[0.2] MAY 0.3>0.5[0.4]
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G4 AZA-PSC MAR 0.2>0.5[0.2] APR 0.1>0.4[0.5] MAY 0.1>0.3[0.4]
G4 LAS-PSC MAR 0.1>0.3[0.1]

SY MSP-PDX AUG 0.8>1.0[1.0] SEP 0>0.6[0.8]

UA DEN-PDX MAR 5>3[5]
UA EWR-PDX MAR 1.8>0[1.8]
UA IAD-PDX MAR 0.8>0[0.9]
UA IAH-PDX MAR 3>1.1[3]
UA ORD-PDX MAR 3>1.0[3]
UA PDX-SFO MAR 6>3[5]
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UA EUG-LAX MAR 1.8>0.7[1.8]
UA EUG-ORD MAR 0.9>0[0.9]
UA EUG-SFO MAR 3>1.7[3]
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UA DEN-RDM MAR 3>1.9[3]
UA LAX-RDM MAR 1.0>0.8[1.0]
UA RDM-SFO MAR 4>1.9[4]
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UA LAX-MFR MAR 1.7>1.0[1.7]
UA MFR-SFO MAR 4>2.0[3]
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UA DEN-PSC MAR 3>2[3]
UA ORD-PSC MAR 0.9>0[0.9]
UA PSC-SFO MAR 1.8>0[1.7]
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UA ACV-DEN MAR 0.8>0[0.8]
UA ACV-LAX MAR 1.9>0.9[1.9]
UA ACV-SFO MAR 3>1.7[2]

WN PDX-SAN MAR 0.4>0[0.4] APR 0.2>0[0.5]

After two years, the Southwest 737 MAX will be back at PDX. Starting March 11, the MAX will be on the PHX-PDX route.

If I remember correctly, before the grounding, it flew SFO/PHX-PDX. I am not terribly certain if/what any others were.

I would see the MAX occasionally on the PDX-STL route.

Looks like G4 is also planning to add PDX-GRR/DSM/MSO/BIL.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/allegiant ... san-diego/
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457587

AS737MAX wrote:

Looks like G4 is also planning to add PDX-GRR/DSM/MSO/BIL.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/allegiant ... san-diego/
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457587

Nice to see some positive route news for a change. Kinda nuts. But it will be fun getting to watch them throw darts from PDX! Best of luck to them, hope they grow successfully.

Any idea where G4 will be located and handled at PDX? First guess would be by ATS on concourse D, but I am curious if anyone knows or if it has been announced.

OAG 2/9: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457603

DL DTW-PDX APR 1.0>0.6[0.9]
DL JFK-PDX APR 1.0>0.6[1.0]

WN PDX-PHX MAR 1.9>2[2]

pdxav8r wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

Looks like G4 is also planning to add PDX-GRR/DSM/MSO/BIL.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/allegiant ... san-diego/
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457587

Nice to see some positive route news for a change. Kinda nuts. But it will be fun getting to watch them throw darts from PDX! Best of luck to them, hope they grow successfully.

Definitely. Completely different adds than F9 and SY have tried.

AC4500 wrote:

pdxav8r wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

Looks like G4 is also planning to add PDX-GRR/DSM/MSO/BIL.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/allegiant ... san-diego/
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457587

Nice to see some positive route news for a change. Kinda nuts. But it will be fun getting to watch them throw darts from PDX! Best of luck to them, hope they grow successfully.

Indeed. Never would have seen PDX-DSM/GRR coming.

As far as I'm aware, SY is done with their PDX focus city "experiment", so I hope G4 will be more successful...

They seem very out of left field..will be interesting to see how they fare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLLQ4z ... b_err_woyt

PDX NEXT update: Starts around 20:23 with great updated information and illustrations of our future airport............. Enjoy...

2/16 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457865

AA CLT-PDX APR 1.0>0.7[1.0]
AA DFW-PDX APR 5>3[3]
AA LAX-PDX APR 3>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX APR 3>1.6[1.0]
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AA ACV-PHX JUN 0>0.9[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>1.0[0] DEC 0>1.0[0]

AC PDX-YVR APR 3>0[4]
AC PDX-YYC APR 0.6>0[0.8]

AS ANC-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[2]
AS BIL-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.3]
AS BOI-PDX APR 8>3[8] MAY 8>5[6]
AS BOS-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.5] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.9]
AS BUR-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[1.9]
AS DAL-PDX APR 3>0[3] MAY 3>1.2[1.7]
AS DCA-PDX APR 1.0>0.1[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS DEN-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[0] MAY 2>1.4[0]
AS EUG-PDX APR 3>0[3] MAY 3>1.2[2]
AS EWR-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS FAT-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[2] MAY 2>1.4[1.9]
AS FCA-PDX APR 0.9>0[0] MAY 1.0>0.4[0]
AS FLL-PDX APR 0.6>0.1[0] MAY 0.6>0.2[0]
AS GEG-PDX APR 8>3[9] MAY 8>5[6]
AS JFK-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS LAS-PDX APR 4>3[4]
AS LAX-PDX APR 10>7[7] MAY 10>8[7]
AS LIH-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS MCI-PDX APR 0.9>0[0.4] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS MCO-PDX APR 1.4>1.0[1.6]
AS MFR-PDX APR 6>2[5] MAY 6>4[4]
AS MSO-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.5] MAY 1.0>0.8[1.9] JUN 1.0>2[0] JUL 1.0>2[0] AUG 1.0>2[2] SEP 1.0>2[1.0] OCT 1.0>2[0.9] NOV 1.0>2[1.0] DEC 1.0>2[1.0]
AS OAK-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[2]
AS ONT-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[1.9]
AS ORD-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[1.5] MAY 2>1.4[1.9]
AS PDX-PSP APR 2>1.2[3] MAY 2>1.4[3]
AS PDX-PVR APR 0.9>0.5[1.1] MAY 1.0>0.7[0.9]
AS PDX-RDM APR 4>1.0[4] MAY 4>2[4]
AS PDX-RNO APR 4>2[3] MAY 4>3[3]
AS PDX-SAN APR 6>5[4]
AS PDX-SEA APR 17>14[21] MAY 17>15[14]
AS PDX-SFO APR 7>6[7]
AS PDX-SJC APR 5>3[5] MAY 5>4[4]
AS PDX-SLC APR 4>2[3] MAY 4>3[1.9]
AS PDX-SMF APR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SNA APR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-STS APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]
AS PDX-YVR APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[0]
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AS LAX-RDM APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]
AS RDM-SFO APR 1.9>1.0[0.4] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]

DL ATL-PDX JUN 3>5[1.0] JUL 3>5[1.0] AUG 3>5[4]

SY MSP-PDX DEC 0.1>1.0[1.0]

AS737MAX wrote:

2/16 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457865

AA CLT-PDX APR 1.0>0.7[1.0]
AA DFW-PDX APR 5>3[3]
AA LAX-PDX APR 3>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX APR 3>1.6[1.0]
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AA ACV-PHX JUN 0>0.9[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>1.0[0] DEC 0>1.0[0]

AC PDX-YVR APR 3>0[4]
AC PDX-YYC APR 0.6>0[0.8]

AS ANC-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[2]
AS BIL-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.3]
AS BOI-PDX APR 8>3[8] MAY 8>5[6]
AS BOS-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.5] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.9]
AS BUR-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[1.9]
AS DAL-PDX APR 3>0[3] MAY 3>1.2[1.7]
AS DCA-PDX APR 1.0>0.1[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS DEN-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[0] MAY 2>1.4[0]
AS EUG-PDX APR 3>0[3] MAY 3>1.2[2]
AS EWR-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS FAT-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[2] MAY 2>1.4[1.9]
AS FCA-PDX APR 0.9>0[0] MAY 1.0>0.4[0]
AS FLL-PDX APR 0.6>0.1[0] MAY 0.6>0.2[0]
AS GEG-PDX APR 8>3[9] MAY 8>5[6]
AS JFK-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS LAS-PDX APR 4>3[4]
AS LAX-PDX APR 10>7[7] MAY 10>8[7]
AS LIH-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS MCI-PDX APR 0.9>0[0.4] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS MCO-PDX APR 1.4>1.0[1.6]
AS MFR-PDX APR 6>2[5] MAY 6>4[4]
AS MSO-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.5] MAY 1.0>0.8[1.9] JUN 1.0>2[0] JUL 1.0>2[0] AUG 1.0>2[2] SEP 1.0>2[1.0] OCT 1.0>2[0.9] NOV 1.0>2[1.0] DEC 1.0>2[1.0]
AS OAK-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[2]
AS ONT-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[1.9]
AS ORD-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[1.5] MAY 2>1.4[1.9]
AS PDX-PSP APR 2>1.2[3] MAY 2>1.4[3]
AS PDX-PVR APR 0.9>0.5[1.1] MAY 1.0>0.7[0.9]
AS PDX-RDM APR 4>1.0[4] MAY 4>2[4]
AS PDX-RNO APR 4>2[3] MAY 4>3[3]
AS PDX-SAN APR 6>5[4]
AS PDX-SEA APR 17>14[21] MAY 17>15[14]
AS PDX-SFO APR 7>6[7]
AS PDX-SJC APR 5>3[5] MAY 5>4[4]
AS PDX-SLC APR 4>2[3] MAY 4>3[1.9]
AS PDX-SMF APR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SNA APR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-STS APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]
AS PDX-YVR APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[0]
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AS LAX-RDM APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]
AS RDM-SFO APR 1.9>1.0[0.4] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]

DL ATL-PDX JUN 3>5[1.0] JUL 3>5[1.0] AUG 3>5[4]

SY MSP-PDX DEC 0.1>1.0[1.0]

I always appreciate your summary updates, but you know that ACV is not in Oregon, right?

BoeingGuy wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

2/16 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457865

AA ACV-PHX JUN 0>0.9[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>1.0[0] DEC 0>1.0[0]
]

I always appreciate your summary updates, but you know that ACV is not in Oregon, right?

It's not, but I appreciate you guys reporting ACV and CEC as honorary members, since we're isolated from the rest of California. In the case of CEC, it's Del Norte County Airport but operates under the auspices of The Border Coast Regional Airport Authority, which includes City of Crescent City, Del Norte County, Tolowa Dee-Ni' Nation, Elk Valley Rancheria and ... City of Brookings OR and Curry County OR. You guys started including us when PenAir was flying PDX-CEC.
Thanks!

BoeingGuy wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

2/16 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457865

AA CLT-PDX APR 1.0>0.7[1.0]
AA DFW-PDX APR 5>3[3]
AA LAX-PDX APR 3>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX APR 3>1.6[1.0]
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AA ACV-PHX JUN 0>0.9[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>1.0[0] DEC 0>1.0[0]

AC PDX-YVR APR 3>0[4]
AC PDX-YYC APR 0.6>0[0.8]

AS ANC-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[2]
AS BIL-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.3]
AS BOI-PDX APR 8>3[8] MAY 8>5[6]
AS BOS-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.5] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.9]
AS BUR-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[1.9]
AS DAL-PDX APR 3>0[3] MAY 3>1.2[1.7]
AS DCA-PDX APR 1.0>0.1[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS DEN-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[0] MAY 2>1.4[0]
AS EUG-PDX APR 3>0[3] MAY 3>1.2[2]
AS EWR-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS FAT-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[2] MAY 2>1.4[1.9]
AS FCA-PDX APR 0.9>0[0] MAY 1.0>0.4[0]
AS FLL-PDX APR 0.6>0.1[0] MAY 0.6>0.2[0]
AS GEG-PDX APR 8>3[9] MAY 8>5[6]
AS JFK-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS LAS-PDX APR 4>3[4]
AS LAX-PDX APR 10>7[7] MAY 10>8[7]
AS LIH-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS MCI-PDX APR 0.9>0[0.4] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS MCO-PDX APR 1.4>1.0[1.6]
AS MFR-PDX APR 6>2[5] MAY 6>4[4]
AS MSO-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.5] MAY 1.0>0.8[1.9] JUN 1.0>2[0] JUL 1.0>2[0] AUG 1.0>2[2] SEP 1.0>2[1.0] OCT 1.0>2[0.9] NOV 1.0>2[1.0] DEC 1.0>2[1.0]
AS OAK-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[2]
AS ONT-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[1.9]
AS ORD-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[1.5] MAY 2>1.4[1.9]
AS PDX-PSP APR 2>1.2[3] MAY 2>1.4[3]
AS PDX-PVR APR 0.9>0.5[1.1] MAY 1.0>0.7[0.9]
AS PDX-RDM APR 4>1.0[4] MAY 4>2[4]
AS PDX-RNO APR 4>2[3] MAY 4>3[3]
AS PDX-SAN APR 6>5[4]
AS PDX-SEA APR 17>14[21] MAY 17>15[14]
AS PDX-SFO APR 7>6[7]
AS PDX-SJC APR 5>3[5] MAY 5>4[4]
AS PDX-SLC APR 4>2[3] MAY 4>3[1.9]
AS PDX-SMF APR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SNA APR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-STS APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]
AS PDX-YVR APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[0]
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AS LAX-RDM APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]
AS RDM-SFO APR 1.9>1.0[0.4] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]

DL ATL-PDX JUN 3>5[1.0] JUL 3>5[1.0] AUG 3>5[4]

SY MSP-PDX DEC 0.1>1.0[1.0]

I always appreciate your summary updates, but you know that ACV is not in Oregon, right?

Wingtips is correct. For many, CEC/ACV are closer than MFR, so I’ve typically included them in the summary. Same goes for PSC given its proximity to NE Oregon.

BoeingGuy wrote:

AS737MAX wrote:

2/16 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457865

AA CLT-PDX APR 1.0>0.7[1.0]
AA DFW-PDX APR 5>3[3]
AA LAX-PDX APR 3>0[3]
AA ORD-PDX APR 3>1.6[1.0]
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AA ACV-PHX JUN 0>0.9[0] JUL 0>1.0[0] AUG 0>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>1.0[0] DEC 0>1.0[0]

AC PDX-YVR APR 3>0[4]
AC PDX-YYC APR 0.6>0[0.8]

AS ANC-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[2]
AS BIL-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.3]
AS BOI-PDX APR 8>3[8] MAY 8>5[6]
AS BOS-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.5] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.9]
AS BUR-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[1.9]
AS DAL-PDX APR 3>0[3] MAY 3>1.2[1.7]
AS DCA-PDX APR 1.0>0.1[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS DEN-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[0] MAY 2>1.4[0]
AS EUG-PDX APR 3>0[3] MAY 3>1.2[2]
AS EWR-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS FAT-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[2] MAY 2>1.4[1.9]
AS FCA-PDX APR 0.9>0[0] MAY 1.0>0.4[0]
AS FLL-PDX APR 0.6>0.1[0] MAY 0.6>0.2[0]
AS GEG-PDX APR 8>3[9] MAY 8>5[6]
AS JFK-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS LAS-PDX APR 4>3[4]
AS LAX-PDX APR 10>7[7] MAY 10>8[7]
AS LIH-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS MCI-PDX APR 0.9>0[0.4] MAY 1.0>0.4[1.0]
AS MCO-PDX APR 1.4>1.0[1.6]
AS MFR-PDX APR 6>2[5] MAY 6>4[4]
AS MSO-PDX APR 0.9>0[1.5] MAY 1.0>0.8[1.9] JUN 1.0>2[0] JUL 1.0>2[0] AUG 1.0>2[2] SEP 1.0>2[1.0] OCT 1.0>2[0.9] NOV 1.0>2[1.0] DEC 1.0>2[1.0]
AS OAK-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[2]
AS ONT-PDX APR 3>1.0[2] MAY 3>1.8[1.9]
AS ORD-PDX APR 1.9>1.0[1.5] MAY 2>1.4[1.9]
AS PDX-PSP APR 2>1.2[3] MAY 2>1.4[3]
AS PDX-PVR APR 0.9>0.5[1.1] MAY 1.0>0.7[0.9]
AS PDX-RDM APR 4>1.0[4] MAY 4>2[4]
AS PDX-RNO APR 4>2[3] MAY 4>3[3]
AS PDX-SAN APR 6>5[4]
AS PDX-SEA APR 17>14[21] MAY 17>15[14]
AS PDX-SFO APR 7>6[7]
AS PDX-SJC APR 5>3[5] MAY 5>4[4]
AS PDX-SLC APR 4>2[3] MAY 4>3[1.9]
AS PDX-SMF APR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-SNA APR 4>3[4]
AS PDX-STS APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]
AS PDX-YVR APR 0.9>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0.4[0]
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AS LAX-RDM APR 1.9>1.0[1.0] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]
AS RDM-SFO APR 1.9>1.0[0.4] MAY 2>1.4[1.0]


DL ATL-PDX JUN 3>5[1.0] JUL 3>5[1.0] AUG 3>5[4]
SY MSP-PDX DEC 0.1>1.0[1.0]

I always appreciate your summary updates, but you know that ACV is not in Oregon, right?

I think many years ago, when I was more active, it was agreed upon that CEC was indeed a city to be included here, as it serves much of Bandon South. I also agree that Pasco should be included, when I lived in Hermiston, we exclusively used PSC for the few trips we took.

The need to fly has come to my life, I am like 5 high risk catagories, I am unvaccinated & my best friend lost her husband & needs me to drive the truck towing a trailer. So I fly RDM-SLC-MCI on the 16th, I obtained N-95 masks & I am going to do my duty. Wish this guy lots of luck & good vibes please.

2/23 OAG: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1458107

AA LAX-PDX NOV 3>2[2]

B6 BOS-PDX SEP 0.5>2[1.1] OCT 0>1.5[0.8] NOV 0>0.4[0] DEC 0>0.5[0]
B6 JFK-PDX SEP 0.2>1.0[0.8] OCT 0>1.0[0.8] NOV 0>1.0[0.9] DEC 0>1.0[0.8]

DL DTW-PDX APR 0.6>0[0.9]
DL HND-PDX MAY 0.7>0[0] JUN 0.7>0[0]
DL JFK-PDX APR 0.6>0[1.0]
DL MSP-PDX APR 4>3[3]
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DL EUG-SLC APR 3>2[2]
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DL RDM-SLC APR 3>2[2]
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DL MFR-SLC APR 3>2[2]

F9 DEN-PDX APR 1.3>1.0[1.0]

OAG 3/2: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1458327

B6 BOS-PDX APR 0.2>0[0.2]
B6 FLL-PDX APR 0.3>0[0.3]
B6 JFK-PDX APR 1.0>0.6[1.0]

G4 BIL-PDX MAY 0>0.3[0] JUN 0>0.3[0] JUL 0>0.3[0]
G4 DSM-PDX JUL 0>0.3[0]
G4 GRR-PDX JUN 0>0.3[0] JUL 0>0.3[0]
G4 IDA-PDX SEP 0>0.3[0] OCT 0>0.3[0]
G4 MRY-PDX SEP 0>0.3[0] OCT 0>0.3[0]
G4 MSO-PDX MAY 0>0.3[0] JUN 0>0.3[0] JUL 0>0.3[0]
G4 PDX-SMX SEP 0>0.3[0] OCT 0>0.3[0]
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G4 AZA-EUG OCT 0>0.3[0.4]
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G4 AZA-RDM OCT 0>0.3[0.2]
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G4 LAS-MFR SEP 0>0.3[0.5] OCT 0>0.5[0.6] NOV 0>0.3[0.5]
G4 MFR-SNA SEP 0>0.3[0] OCT 0>0.3[0]
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G4 PSC-SAN JUN 0>0.3[0] JUL 0>0.3[0]

LF CEC-OAK MAY 0>1.1[1.0] JUN 0>1.2[1.0] JUL 0>1.3[1.0] AUG 0>1.3[1.0] SEP 0>1.2[1.0]

WN DAL-PDX APR 0.7>0.1[0.7]
WN DEN-PDX APR 4>3[4]
WN MDW-PDX APR 1.6>1.0[1.6]
WN OAK-PDX APR 4>3[4]
WN PDX-SJC APR 3>1.4[3]
WN PDX-SMF APR 3>2[3]
WN PDX-STL APR 0.6>0[0.6] MAY 1.0>0.7[1.0]

Not sure why B6 even bothers. Their NE agreement with AA shares nothing for PDX, and AA’s agreement with AS has only token flights to the NE, especially now with AS currently suspending BOS, EWR, DCA, and JFK in the short term. Not sure why/how B6 has even maintained 3 flights per week at PDX. What, they operated ONE flight to FLL in total, then axed it? B6 also didn’t include PDX as part of their LAX west coast expansion, though LAX-SEA and SFO have also been shelved for the near future. Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

What does everyone think the future hold for PDX as an airport post pandemic? With so many routes suspended or dropped, how long does it take for Portland to get back to 2019 levels and does the current negative view of the city have long term impact?

Do we see BA actually start in the short term? Will FI return? Will Allegiant become a real contender at PDX? Would love to hear everyone’s thoughts.