Runway765 wrote:

skitchie wrote:

Moving the ULCCs to the satellite concourse for WN's sake doesn't work. Two of the 3 (not including Cape, Boutique, and Contour) aren't even based out of C concourse. Is WN just going to take up residence at B11, B12 and A1? Keep in mind those airlines all paid for offices and breakrooms to be built at those gates. It would take a lot of convincing to get them to move all the way across the ramp to a terminal that has to bus people there.

The only way I could see the ULCCs moving there is if they decide to buy more gates out of their own volition which, if history continues like it has, they won't be all over the idea of unless travel is booming bigger than ever before by 2023.

This is why I think the satellite idea is stupid. Building it only adds a net of 7 gates as it requires removing a gate, and bussing is a major inconvenience for passengers.

Better idea would just be to hardstand while A is rebuilt, then add the proposed 5 gate addition to D and the 7 gate "Concourse A North" proposed in the master plan. That gives BNA 70 gates without having to have a bussed satellite.

MNAA very clearly debated the options and the board members chose a) bus transfer to b) a full service Satellite Concourse with retail/concessions/food/restrooms to deliver the best possible customer experience and allow BNA the capacity for revenue generation (aka $$$). Here is the list:
- concessions/retail, this allows additional revenue generation
- provides a better customer experience (vs a waiting room plus bus to hard stands in bad weather)
- lose only one gate for transfers (vs potentially up to 3 gates to build holding room on the ground level)
- jet bridges protect customers from weather (hot/cold/rain/wind) and are ADA compliant

a) Bus transfer - this was chosen over a tunnel, 1) due to the timeframe required to build a tunnel and 2) cost. A skybridge was discussed (proximity to 13/31 would limit height)

b) regarding hard stands - this would require building a temporary holding area (that would have to be destroyed later). Customers would have to utilize concessions/restrooms from the main terminal - which would not be a good customer experience

**Please note: the preliminary design for the Satellite Concourse has slightly restricted (shorter) jet bridges, thus, the preferred aircraft will be A319/320/321 and B737 family. E175 and smaller aircraft can be accommodated, but will place the jet bridges at a steeper angle that is less than desirable. This could have an impact on which airlines use the Satellite Concourse

I think we all understand the impact on the number of gates:
- 2023 Sep: Satellite Concourse opens, net +7 gates, A Concourse closes, net -7 gates
- 2025 A Concourse re-opens, net +15 gates

Y'all just let me know, anytime, if ya need me to stir the pot!!! Sorry about that

bobphelps87 wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

skitchie wrote:

Moving the ULCCs to the satellite concourse for WN's sake doesn't work. Two of the 3 (not including Cape, Boutique, and Contour) aren't even based out of C concourse. Is WN just going to take up residence at B11, B12 and A1? Keep in mind those airlines all paid for offices and breakrooms to be built at those gates. It would take a lot of convincing to get them to move all the way across the ramp to a terminal that has to bus people there.

The only way I could see the ULCCs moving there is if they decide to buy more gates out of their own volition which, if history continues like it has, they won't be all over the idea of unless travel is booming bigger than ever before by 2023.

This is why I think the satellite idea is stupid. Building it only adds a net of 7 gates as it requires removing a gate, and bussing is a major inconvenience for passengers.

Better idea would just be to hardstand while A is rebuilt, then add the proposed 5 gate addition to D and the 7 gate "Concourse A North" proposed in the master plan. That gives BNA 70 gates without having to have a bussed satellite.

MNAA very clearly debated the options and the board members chose a) bus transfer to b) a full service Satellite Concourse with retail/concessions/food/restrooms to deliver the best possible customer experience and allow BNA the capacity for revenue generation (aka $$$). Here is the list:
- concessions/retail, this allows additional revenue generation
- provides a better customer experience (vs a waiting room plus bus to hard stands in bad weather)
- lose only one gate for transfers (vs potentially up to 3 gates to build holding room on the ground level)
- jet bridges protect customers from weather (hot/cold/rain/wind) and are ADA compliant

a) Bus transfer - this was chosen over a tunnel, 1) due to the timeframe required to build a tunnel and 2) cost. A skybridge was discussed (proximity to 13/31 would limit height)

b) regarding hard stands - this would require building a temporary holding area (that would have to be destroyed later). Customers would have to utilize concessions/restrooms from the main terminal - which would not be a good customer experience

**Please note: the preliminary design for the Satellite Concourse has slightly restricted (shorter) jet bridges, thus, the preferred aircraft will be A319/320/321 and B737 family. E175 and smaller aircraft can be accommodated, but will place the jet bridges at a steeper angle that is less than desirable. This could have an impact on which airlines use the Satellite Concourse

I think we all understand the impact on the number of gates:
- 2023 Sep: Satellite Concourse opens, net +7 gates, A Concourse closes, net -7 gates
- 2025 A Concourse re-opens, net +15 gates

Y'all just let me know, anytime, if ya need me to stir the pot!!! Sorry about that

Net +15 gates for the new Concourse A? I thought it was only +10?

DFW built a tunnel for their Terminal E satellite when it only had 9 gates, not sure why BNA, if they are going to bother doing this, can't do the same. If there are restrictions on jet bridge lengths, then I stand by my comments that this shouldn't be done as it limits future flexibility.

My hardstand proposal was only temporary while A is rebuilt. Yes, it would be an inconvenience, but it would also only be short term. It would have been better to simply build Concourse A north in lieu of the satellite for gate expansion. BNA is not the kind of airport that needs a satellite with bus service.

I guess my lingering question is how many gates does WN ultimately want at BNA? That should give some insight into who will use what.

BNA saw 983,116 passengers in March. Up 28.4% over March 2020, but down 34.9% over March 2019 (1,511,541). Hopefully we cross 1 million this month!

https://flynashville.com/wp-content/upl ... engers.pdf

Interesting to note that Breeze’s Instagram page follows Nashville’s tourism page.

Hearing than Hawaiian has it's sights on possibly adding 3 weekly HNL-BNA flights.

Flyguy

wnflyguy wrote:

Hearing than Hawaiian has it's sights on possibly adding 3 weekly HNL-BNA flights.

Flyguy

If this is true, I wonder how they would gate this.

I was Based in CVG with the shuttle bus to COMAIR terminal. Pax’s hated the process. DFW’s tunnel to Gilligans island is the way to go. MNAA has to come up with the money to build tunnel or it will be an awful travel experience. Plus MNAA cannot find enough qualified bus drivers for remote long term parking and employee parking. Bus driver turnover has always been high at BNA, nevermind the bus wrecks in recent years on Donelson Rd to/from employee parking.
I can see commuters/employees parking or ending shift at satellite concourse, waiting for bus to main terminal, walking the 1/2 mile to landslide bus stop then busing 2 miles to employee parking....what a pain.

wnflyguy wrote:

Hearing than Hawaiian has it's sights on possibly adding 3 weekly HNL-BNA flights.

Flyguy

For service starting when? I can’t imagine they’d be starting this anytime soon considering the strict travel restrictions still in place in Hawaii and the fact that passenger levels are still well off from where they were pre-March 2020.

TangoCharlie123 wrote:

wnflyguy wrote:

Hearing than Hawaiian has it's sights on possibly adding 3 weekly HNL-BNA flights.

Flyguy

For service starting when? I can’t imagine they’d be starting this anytime soon considering the strict travel restrictions still in place in Hawaii and the fact that passenger levels are still well off from where they were pre-March 2020.

uhhh you might want to check again, domestic travel to every major island other than Kauai is near 2019 levels:

Maui & the big island surpassed 2019 levels during late March/early April:

http://dbedt.hawaii.gov/visitor/dailypax-dashboard/

Midwestindy wrote:

TangoCharlie123 wrote:

wnflyguy wrote:

Hearing than Hawaiian has it's sights on possibly adding 3 weekly HNL-BNA flights.

Flyguy

For service starting when? I can’t imagine they’d be starting this anytime soon considering the strict travel restrictions still in place in Hawaii and the fact that passenger levels are still well off from where they were pre-March 2020.

uhhh you might want to check again, domestic travel to every major island other than Kauai is near 2019 levels:

Maui & the big island surpassed 2019 levels during late March/early April:

http://dbedt.hawaii.gov/visitor/dailypax-dashboard/

Wow, I knew tourist destinations recovered quicker than others, but I didn’t realize Hawaii had returned to pre-Covid levels so quickly. Especially considering all the hoops travelers have to jump through to get there.

Runway765 wrote:

wnflyguy wrote:

Hearing than Hawaiian has it's sights on possibly adding 3 weekly HNL-BNA flights.

Flyguy

If this is true, I wonder how they would gate this.

Is there something non-obvious wrong with the end of B? It's not like BA needs it, at least for the foreseeable future.

wnflyguy wrote:

Hearing than Hawaiian has it's sights on possibly adding 3 weekly HNL-BNA flights.

Flyguy

Doug said in 2019 BNA was eyeing Hawaii flights.

HA adding MCO & AUS definitely gives BNA a fair shot at getting them in.

southwest1675 wrote:

Interesting to note that Breeze’s Instagram page follows Nashville’s tourism page.

A Breeze E190 at BNA today, and it wasn’t at Embraer

rexchase12 wrote:

southwest1675 wrote:

Interesting to note that Breeze’s Instagram page follows Nashville’s tourism page.

A Breeze E190 at BNA today, and it wasn’t at Embraer

Wonder what it was doing? In from TPA, out to ISP. Sounds like a Embraer service stop, but if rexchase12 says it was doing something else, I have no reason to doubt.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N19 ... /KBNA/KISP

rexchase12 wrote:

southwest1675 wrote:

Interesting to note that Breeze’s Instagram page follows Nashville’s tourism page.

A Breeze E190 at BNA today, and it wasn’t at Embraer

Neelman giving the MNAA a visit perhaps?

It came from the Signature area. Quite a surprise to me.

reednavy wrote:

HA adding MCO & AUS definitely gives BNA a fair shot at getting them in.

It’s honestly the next logical add of markets east of the Rockies.

Runway765 wrote:

reednavy wrote:

HA adding MCO & AUS definitely gives BNA a fair shot at getting them in.

It’s honestly the next logical add of markets east of the Rockies.

EWR? PHL? MIA? ATL?

Nicknuzzii wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

reednavy wrote:

HA adding MCO & AUS definitely gives BNA a fair shot at getting them in.

It’s honestly the next logical add of markets east of the Rockies.

EWR? PHL? MIA? ATL?

ATL and EWR already serve HNL via DL/UA, and MIA/PHL are AA hubs. I doubt HA would want to go up against any of those entrenched carriers.

Runway765 wrote:

Nicknuzzii wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

It’s honestly the next logical add of markets east of the Rockies.

EWR? PHL? MIA? ATL?

ATL and EWR already serve HNL via DL/UA, and MIA/PHL are AA hubs. I doubt HA would want to go up against any of those entrenched carriers.

MCI and BWI could be adds because they won’t have competition southwest can’t add those flights otherwise they would if they southwest had the aircraft

Wneast wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

Nicknuzzii wrote:

EWR? PHL? MIA? ATL?

ATL and EWR already serve HNL via DL/UA, and MIA/PHL are AA hubs. I doubt HA would want to go up against any of those entrenched carriers.

MCI and BWI could be adds because they won’t have competition southwest can’t add those flights otherwise they would if they southwest had the aircraft

BWI is in close proximity to IAD, and MCI doesn’t have the income/growth levels BNA has.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MXY ... /KISP/KTPA Another Breeze appearance on 4/20. Looking like a test run among cities. I’m under the impression Nashville will be one of their launch markets, and I’m somewhat shocked if it’s true. Where would they fly? Are they starting off ambitious and trying to pick a fight with WN?

southwest1675 wrote:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MXY8004/history/20210419/1200Z/KISP/KTPA Another Breeze appearance on 4/20. Looking like a test run among cities. I’m under the impression Nashville will be one of their launch markets, and I’m somewhat shocked if it’s true. Where would they fly? Are they starting off ambitious and trying to pick a fight with WN?

In the Breeze thread, they are mentioning CHS and PVD as possible first destinations from BNA. I'm not so sure that's a good idea, but I guess we will see.

ZazuPIT wrote:

southwest1675 wrote:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MXY8004/history/20210419/1200Z/KISP/KTPA Another Breeze appearance on 4/20. Looking like a test run among cities. I’m under the impression Nashville will be one of their launch markets, and I’m somewhat shocked if it’s true. Where would they fly? Are they starting off ambitious and trying to pick a fight with WN?

In the Breeze thread, they are mentioning CHS and PVD as possible first destinations from BNA. I'm not so sure that's a good idea, but I guess we will see.

WN will clobber them if they try those. I agree I don’t really get it if BNA is a launch market.

Runway765 wrote:

ZazuPIT wrote:

southwest1675 wrote:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MXY8004/history/20210419/1200Z/KISP/KTPA Another Breeze appearance on 4/20. Looking like a test run among cities. I’m under the impression Nashville will be one of their launch markets, and I’m somewhat shocked if it’s true. Where would they fly? Are they starting off ambitious and trying to pick a fight with WN?

In the Breeze thread, they are mentioning CHS and PVD as possible first destinations from BNA. I'm not so sure that's a good idea, but I guess we will see.

WN will clobber them if they try those. I agree I don’t really get it if BNA is a launch market.

BNA-PVD is possible as well. Maybe BNA will be a launch market because of the Embraer base?

Here’s hoping when international flying comes back, BNA will be a big enough market for BA London return, DL Paris only if CVG-CDG suspends service which expected to start Aug 2021 and JAL Narita.

bnatraveler wrote:

rexchase12 wrote:

southwest1675 wrote:

Interesting to note that Breeze’s Instagram page follows Nashville’s tourism page.

A Breeze E190 at BNA today, and it wasn’t at Embraer

Wonder what it was doing? In from TPA, out to ISP. Sounds like a Embraer service stop, but if rexchase12 says it was doing something else, I have no reason to doubt.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N19 ... /KBNA/KISP

My guess would be the FAA required Proving Runs.

B6 adding BNA-LGA service to begin in Q2 of 2022.

Shakinthefat wrote:

Here’s hoping when international flying comes back, BNA will be a big enough market for BA London return, DL Paris only if CVG-CDG suspends service which expected to start Aug 2021 and JAL Narita.

BA will be back as soon as international travel picks back up. We'll see about DL, but I doubt they'll be inclined to launch now.

The Sky Club expansion is looking like it will be a white elephant now. They no longer need all that space. AA will need a bigger club with all the routes they are launching.

TangoCharlie123 wrote:

B6 adding BNA-LGA service to begin in Q2 of 2022.

Along with JFK?

southwest1675 wrote:

TangoCharlie123 wrote:

B6 adding BNA-LGA service to begin in Q2 of 2022.

Along with JFK?

That’s what it appears. AA and B6 announced a slew of new routes out of the northeast today.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/american- ... ew-routes/

BNA has awarded the contract for the satellite concourse to Holder Construction. Construction to begin this fall. A bus seems to be the method of choice for getting passengers to the terminal with no plans for a bridge or tunnel.

https://flynashville.com/news/airport-a ... -concourse

TangoCharlie123 wrote:

BNA has awarded the contract for the satellite concourse to Holder Construction. Construction to begin this fall. A bus seems to be the method of choice for getting passengers to the terminal with no plans for a bridge or tunnel.

https://flynashville.com/news/airport-a ... -concourse

The question remains where will the bus depart from the main terminal?

Buses will be interesting. Hopefully the funds come about for a tunnel. Buses will depart from gate C13/C14 I believe.

Unfortunately extra traffic (buses) running around on ramp will create a safety hazard. A tunnel is the best option.

I found BNA's proposed update to their airport layout plan. There are multiple slides, but below linked is the one for the terminal area. Interesting to note that in addition to the Concourse A rebuild and satellite concourse, they anticipate building the A North extension with 7 gates as well as the 5 gate D extension. If everything where to get built at some point, BNA would have 77 gates.

Check it out for yourself

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bg99bntwdm67qzp/AAAvKLdYizHvoQ1g7n7x4RAXa/3%20Draft%20Update%20to%20Airport%20Layout%20Plan?dl=0&preview=6+PL-SH005-TERM-AREA-PLAN.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I wonder if the current terminal would be able to handle that many gates?

Runway765 wrote:

I found BNA's proposed update to their airport layout plan. There are multiple slides, but below linked is the one for the terminal area. Interesting to note that in addition to the Concourse A rebuild and satellite concourse, they anticipate building the A North extension with 7 gates as well as the 5 gate D extension. If everything where to get built at some point, BNA would have 77 gates.

Check it out for yourself

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bg99bntwdm67qzp/AAAvKLdYizHvoQ1g7n7x4RAXa/3%20Draft%20Update%20to%20Airport%20Layout%20Plan?dl=0&preview=6+PL-SH005-TERM-AREA-PLAN.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I wonder if the current terminal would be able to handle that many gates?

Not sure what the long term plans are for WN, but it’s looking like they’ll have a lot of real estate to work with by 2025.

southwest1675 wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

I found BNA's proposed update to their airport layout plan. There are multiple slides, but below linked is the one for the terminal area. Interesting to note that in addition to the Concourse A rebuild and satellite concourse, they anticipate building the A North extension with 7 gates as well as the 5 gate D extension. If everything where to get built at some point, BNA would have 77 gates.

Check it out for yourself

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bg99bntwdm67qzp/AAAvKLdYizHvoQ1g7n7x4RAXa/3%20Draft%20Update%20to%20Airport%20Layout%20Plan?dl=0&preview=6+PL-SH005-TERM-AREA-PLAN.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I wonder if the current terminal would be able to handle that many gates?

Not sure what the long term plans are for WN, but it’s looking like they’ll have a lot of real estate to work with by 2025.

Probably not until the A rebuild happens as there won’t be a huge net increase in gates until then.

Furthermore, I think the further expansions of A and D are just concepts at this point, but I have no doubt they’ll be needed eventually.

Runway765 wrote:

I found BNA's proposed update to their airport layout plan. There are multiple slides, but below linked is the one for the terminal area. Interesting to note that in addition to the Concourse A rebuild and satellite concourse, they anticipate building the A North extension with 7 gates as well as the 5 gate D extension. If everything where to get built at some point, BNA would have 77 gates.

Check it out for yourself

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bg99bntwdm67qzp/AAAvKLdYizHvoQ1g7n7x4RAXa/3%20Draft%20Update%20to%20Airport%20Layout%20Plan?dl=0&preview=6+PL-SH005-TERM-AREA-PLAN.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I wonder if the current terminal would be able to handle that many gates?

So an 8 gate satellite concourse parallel to one side of C, 5 more gates on D for a total of 11, right across from C4-C22 and I bet they still don’t find a way to get ramp control.... this is going to be an absolute mess.

Runway765 wrote:

southwest1675 wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

I found BNA's proposed update to their airport layout plan. There are multiple slides, but below linked is the one for the terminal area. Interesting to note that in addition to the Concourse A rebuild and satellite concourse, they anticipate building the A North extension with 7 gates as well as the 5 gate D extension. If everything where to get built at some point, BNA would have 77 gates.

Check it out for yourself

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bg99bntwdm67qzp/AAAvKLdYizHvoQ1g7n7x4RAXa/3%20Draft%20Update%20to%20Airport%20Layout%20Plan?dl=0&preview=6+PL-SH005-TERM-AREA-PLAN.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I wonder if the current terminal would be able to handle that many gates?

Not sure what the long term plans are for WN, but it’s looking like they’ll have a lot of real estate to work with by 2025.

Probably not until the A rebuild happens as there won’t be a huge net increase in gates until then.

Furthermore, I think the further expansions of A and D are just concepts at this point, but I have no doubt they’ll be needed eventually.

I’m more curious what the future of the satellite holds after it’s done holding current A occupants.

How many flights does WN have schedule right now at the airport ?

I had a flight from Concourse A at BNA to C/D at IAD last week. Not sure which was worse, but that's not a comparison you want. At least BNA is doing something about it, but an NK A320 in that gate area basically means people standing in the narrow hallway both ways. Looked like something out of a Ryanair departure shed/mall somewhere in the Midlands.

Runway765 wrote:

southwest1675 wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

I found BNA's proposed update to their airport layout plan. There are multiple slides, but below linked is the one for the terminal area. Interesting to note that in addition to the Concourse A rebuild and satellite concourse, they anticipate building the A North extension with 7 gates as well as the 5 gate D extension. If everything where to get built at some point, BNA would have 77 gates.

Check it out for yourself

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bg99bntwdm67qzp/AAAvKLdYizHvoQ1g7n7x4RAXa/3%20Draft%20Update%20to%20Airport%20Layout%20Plan?dl=0&preview=6+PL-SH005-TERM-AREA-PLAN.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I wonder if the current terminal would be able to handle that many gates?

Not sure what the long term plans are for WN, but it’s looking like they’ll have a lot of real estate to work with by 2025.

Probably not until the A rebuild happens as there won’t be a huge net increase in gates until then.

Furthermore, I think the further expansions of A and D are just concepts at this point, but I have no doubt they’ll be needed eventually.

I’m more curious what the future of the satellite holds after it’s done holding current A occupants.

737MAX7 wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

I found BNA's proposed update to their airport layout plan. There are multiple slides, but below linked is the one for the terminal area. Interesting to note that in addition to the Concourse A rebuild and satellite concourse, they anticipate building the A North extension with 7 gates as well as the 5 gate D extension. If everything where to get built at some point, BNA would have 77 gates.

Check it out for yourself

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bg99bntwdm67qzp/AAAvKLdYizHvoQ1g7n7x4RAXa/3%20Draft%20Update%20to%20Airport%20Layout%20Plan?dl=0&preview=6+PL-SH005-TERM-AREA-PLAN.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I wonder if the current terminal would be able to handle that many gates?

So an 8 gate satellite concourse parallel to one side of C, 5 more gates on D for a total of 11, right across from C4-C22 and I bet they still don’t find a way to get ramp control.... this is going to be an absolute mess.

On second thought, I’m not sure if the 5 additional gates on D would be a good idea. Not only would there be ramp issues, but it would constrain the baggage facilities. If WN took the rest of C and the satellite long term, that would put them at 32 gates, not far behind BWI and MDW. There’s a lot they could do with that amount of real estate. Unless in the unlikely event WN wanted to go the DEN route and push 300 flights, and they were willing to fund the expansion themselves, I don’t see the need to build those 5 additional D gates.

BNA will need ramp control with that future plan. Pre Covid ramp traffic was crowded at times with WN coming around the corner and A/B traffic coming around their corner (top of B) headed to Taxiway B4 via the connector.
I hate to see the high speed off 2L closed, loved making that turnoff.

Delta SkyClub status (opening Q2 2022):
- Delta requested a 2 year extenstion, due to pandemic
- March 1, 2021 was the original start date for rental payments
- June 1, 2022 (or date of beneficial occupancy) will be the new start date
- 10 year term lease, to begin on date of beneficial occupancy or by July 1, 2022. lease expires June 30, 2032
- October 2021 interior buildout construction will begin ($13 million Delta)
- completion date should be well ahead of July 1, 2022
- the additional space will allow Detla to drive additional flights to BNA and potentially expand for international operations in the future


Food:
- BNA is not happy with Fraport and are having daily status calls with them
- customer experience is really bad due to lack of available food (#1 issue currently)
- Party Foul and Burger King in Concourse D late. Also Puckett's

- 14 concessions are contracted to be open May 31, most (if not all) are expected to be late
- 4 of 14 open
- 9 of 14 u/c
- 1 of 14 no start date yet
- build out allowance: retail - 90 days, food and beverage 120 days


Notes:
- 2 years ahead of schedule for installation of terrazzo floors
- snowstorm cost about $2 million for snow removal
- May 4 total road closure for installation of first steel beams
- new BNA monument sign in works as part of the road improvements

Runway765 wrote:

737MAX7 wrote:

Runway765 wrote:

I found BNA's proposed update to their airport layout plan. There are multiple slides, but below linked is the one for the terminal area. Interesting to note that in addition to the Concourse A rebuild and satellite concourse, they anticipate building the A North extension with 7 gates as well as the 5 gate D extension. If everything where to get built at some point, BNA would have 77 gates.

Check it out for yourself

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bg99bntwdm67qzp/AAAvKLdYizHvoQ1g7n7x4RAXa/3%20Draft%20Update%20to%20Airport%20Layout%20Plan?dl=0&preview=6+PL-SH005-TERM-AREA-PLAN.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I wonder if the current terminal would be able to handle that many gates?

So an 8 gate satellite concourse parallel to one side of C, 5 more gates on D for a total of 11, right across from C4-C22 and I bet they still don’t find a way to get ramp control.... this is going to be an absolute mess.

On second thought, I’m not sure if the 5 additional gates on D would be a good idea. Not only would there be ramp issues, but it would constrain the baggage facilities. If WN took the rest of C and the satellite long term, that would put them at 32 gates, not far behind BWI and MDW. There’s a lot they could do with that amount of real estate. Unless in the unlikely event WN wanted to go the DEN route and push 300 flights, and they were willing to fund the expansion themselves, I don’t see the need to build those 5 additional D gates.

I retract this comment. Yes, it may be tight, but BNA needs to squeeze as many gates as possible on the current terminal to avoid the expense of a 2nd Terminal for as long as possible.

bobphelps87 wrote:

Delta SkyClub status (opening Q2 2022):
- Delta requested a 2 year extenstion, due to pandemic
- March 1, 2021 was the original start date for rental payments
- June 1, 2022 (or date of beneficial occupancy) will be the new start date
- 10 year term lease, to begin on date of beneficial occupancy or by July 1, 2022. lease expires June 30, 2032
- October 2021 interior buildout construction will begin ($13 million Delta)
- completion date should be well ahead of July 1, 2022
- the additional space will allow Detla to drive additional flights to BNA and potentially expand for international operations in the future


Food:
- BNA is not happy with Fraport and are having daily status calls with them
- customer experience is really bad due to lack of available food (#1 issue currently)
- Party Foul and Burger King in Concourse D late. Also Puckett's

- 14 concessions are contracted to be open May 31, most (if not all) are expected to be late
- 4 of 14 open
- 9 of 14 u/c
- 1 of 14 no start date yet
- build out allowance: retail - 90 days, food and beverage 120 days


Notes:
- 2 years ahead of schedule for installation of terrazzo floors
- snowstorm cost about $2 million for snow removal
- May 4 total road closure for installation of first steel beams
- new BNA monument sign in works as part of the road improvements

So will BNA be without a DL skyclub for almost a year with occupancy starting June 2022? and construction on the Skyclub will restart in October 2021?

"additional space will allow Detla to drive additional flights to BNA and potentially expand for international operations in the future"
Happy to hear this news excited to hear details of what additional flights they will drive to BNA?

DL at BNA pre-Covid, was expanding significantly as a “focus” city. BNA was one of DL’s main international alternate airports for ATL due to mainline maintenance and the ground capacity to service bigger jets. BNA- CDG, similar to CVG-CDG in a downsized hub could have made sense. Not sure it will now since BNA is no longer a focus city for DL. DL market share 2019-2020 was 11%, #2 behind WN at 53%. Now AA will probably take over that #2 position.