Whiteguy wrote:

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UA947 wrote:

beechnut wrote:

They weren't options (A220). The initial order was 45 firm, plus 30 options. That was reduced to 33 firm with 12 "cancellations". Of those 12, so far two have been restored to firm order status. There may be more to come, they really seem to like the aircraft.

Beech

The Order and Delivery sheet which is published monthly by Airbus has always had 45 A220-300 for Air Canada. That number has not been changed to 33 up untill the very last sheet, dated Septemer 30, 2021, since the first rumours about a "cancellation" showed up in November last year.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/airbus-s-a220-jet-suffers-blow-after-canadian-order-cancellation-1.1519644

Wasn’t really a rumor…

This is probably the article that started the rumour (indeed dated November). Last quarter 2020 six were delivered, not five. This year nine delivered sofar with at least two more in the pipeline so the claim of deferring 18 in 2021/2022 makes absolutely no sense.

ramprat320 wrote:

Though reading between the lines it sounds as though there may be some fleet developments at Rouge to announce in a year or two…..stay tuned

Yeah, like the transfer of all the 78M's to Rouge and mainline goes all Airbus on the narrow-body fleet.

UA947 wrote:

Whiteguy wrote:

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UA947 wrote:

The Order and Delivery sheet which is published monthly by Airbus has always had 45 A220-300 for Air Canada. That number has not been changed to 33 up untill the very last sheet, dated Septemer 30, 2021, since the first rumours about a "cancellation" showed up in November last year.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/airbus-s-a220-jet-suffers-blow-after-canadian-order-cancellation-1.1519644

Wasn’t really a rumor…

This is probably the article that started the rumour (indeed dated November). Last quarter 2020 six were delivered, not five. This year nine delivered sofar with at least two more in the pipeline so the claim of deferring 18 in 2021/2022 makes absolutely no sense.

I wouldn’t call it rumors if the info is coming from earnings filing, as stated in the article. As far as aircraft being delivered or deferred, things were very fluid and changing monthly, weekly and daily at the time. No surprises really.

9252fly wrote:

ramprat320 wrote:

Though reading between the lines it sounds as though there may be some fleet developments at Rouge to announce in a year or two…..stay tuned

Yeah, like the transfer of all the 78M's to Rouge and mainline goes all Airbus on the narrow-body fleet.

Oh if only

beechnut wrote:

UA947 wrote:

DLASFlyer wrote:

Order, cancel then un-cancel. 2021 is wild!

There were never any orders cancelled, only options. The only thing that is wild is that AC calls them "orders".

They weren't options (A220). The initial order was 45 firm, plus 30 options. That was reduced to 33 firm with 12 "cancellations". Of those 12, so far two have been restored to firm order status. There may be more to come, they really seem to like the aircraft.

Beech

I would expect a minimum of the original order to ultimately be in the fleet, and there will likely be more. Prior to the pandemic, AC had more than 100 A319's and A320's across mainline and Rouge, with 48 A319's. The A220 sits just between these two in terms of seat count. There is good reason AC likes it - it has great economics and passenger feedback is generally good from comments online.

Is there any carrier that has ordered it that hasn't liked it? It almost seems like a reincarnation of a DC9, another aircraft AC had a lot of.

EdmFlyBoi wrote:

beechnut wrote:

UA947 wrote:

There were never any orders cancelled, only options. The only thing that is wild is that AC calls them "orders".

They weren't options (A220). The initial order was 45 firm, plus 30 options. That was reduced to 33 firm with 12 "cancellations". Of those 12, so far two have been restored to firm order status. There may be more to come, they really seem to like the aircraft.

Beech

I would expect a minimum of the original order to ultimately be in the fleet, and there will likely be more. Prior to the pandemic, AC had more than 100 A319's and A320's across mainline and Rouge, with 48 A319's. The A220 sits just between these two in terms of seat count. There is good reason AC likes it - it has great economics and passenger feedback is generally good from comments online.

Is there any carrier that has ordered it that hasn't liked it? It almost seems like a reincarnation of a DC9, another aircraft AC had a lot of.

There are currently from the site I consult, 24 in the fleet and a 25th has started its flight tests. That would leave 8 more from the "reduced" order of 33, plus 2 more from the cancelled part of that order, for a total of 35. And more perhaps to come. The bird is doing very well for Air Canada.

It's likely to become indeed the DC-9 of the AC fleet. Except a DC-9 with... near transatlantic range! More than twice the range the DC-9-30s AC had, so much greater flexibility than the Nine which is my favourite AC aircraft of "my" era (I'm 63...)

Beech

codyul wrote:

9252fly wrote:

ramprat320 wrote:

Though reading between the lines it sounds as though there may be some fleet developments at Rouge to announce in a year or two…..stay tuned

Yeah, like the transfer of all the 78M's to Rouge and mainline goes all Airbus on the narrow-body fleet.

Oh if only

If you look at the layout and interiors of the newly reconfigured Rouge A321's, the interiors are basically identical to those of mainline with the exception of setback monitors. It seems really unlikely that the Maxes would be moved, unless Rouge changed to having setback monitors. It seems more likely that the mainline A321's are transferred to Rouge and refurbished, unless they are refurbished and kept at mainline.

As previously mentioned, there are unlikely to be more Maxes anywhere at AC. I would anticipate more A220's and an A321NEO order with the possible addition of used A32xCEO's much like how AC added used A330CEO's.

CrewBunk wrote:

I’m just thankful there are no old Russian airframes currently on the market.

Interjet (or what's left of it) is holding on line 1.

EdmFlyBoi wrote:

As previously mentioned, there are unlikely to be more Maxes anywhere at AC. I would anticipate more A220's and an A321NEO order with the possible addition of used A32xCEO's much like how AC added used A330CEO's.

I wonder if they had redo if AC would still order the MAX. After the cancelations of the MAX 9 I think a 321neo order is inevitable.

AA has A332s & A333s stored in the desert, so if AC decides on used frames to increase widebody lift they have options south of the border.

As of the most recent schedule "update" AC lists both YTZ-YUL and YTZ-YOW as ending effective 19DEC2021. Does anyone know if this is a temporary/seasonal/holiday suspension or is AC (by way of Jazz) leaving Billy Bishop entirely?

shoelessjoe wrote:

As of the most recent schedule "update" AC lists both YTZ-YUL and YTZ-YOW as ending effective 19DEC2021. Does anyone know if this is a temporary/seasonal/holiday suspension or is AC (by way of Jazz) leaving Billy Bishop entirely?

Given they're biz-focussed routes, AC back when they were the only game 'in town' at YTZ would suspend the routes over the XMAS/New Year's holidays. Guess they're doing the same thing this coming holiday season. They resume on 04JAN22.

From a network point of view, Rousseau's (now infamous) speech was unfortunately overlooked and there were some interesting bits in there.

"Our strategy is to concentrate on the visiting friends and relatives market. (...) We foresee the recovery accelerating in 2022, with a peak schedule at approximately 75-to-80% of what we had in 2019 in Montreal. (...) with a special emphasis on connecting Canadian customers, attracting 6th freedom traffic, where international travellers connect through Canada to-and-from the U.S."

Full speech available here: https://www.aircanada.com/content/dam/a ... ech-en.pdf

runway23 wrote:

From a network point of view, Rousseau's (now infamous) speech was unfortunately overlooked and there were some interesting bits in there.

"Our strategy is to concentrate on the visiting friends and relatives market. (...) We foresee the recovery accelerating in 2022, with a peak schedule at approximately 75-to-80% of what we had in 2019 in Montreal. (...) with a special emphasis on connecting Canadian customers, attracting 6th freedom traffic, where international travellers connect through Canada to-and-from the U.S."

Full speech available here: https://www.aircanada.com/content/dam/a ... ech-en.pdf

"This has led us to convert eight Boeing 767s into dedicated freighters, with the first arriving next month." Isn't this a change from original announcements? I thought it was to be 4 though recent fleet charts through end of 2022 showed 5.

Dominion301 wrote:

shoelessjoe wrote:

As of the most recent schedule "update" AC lists both YTZ-YUL and YTZ-YOW as ending effective 19DEC2021. Does anyone know if this is a temporary/seasonal/holiday suspension or is AC (by way of Jazz) leaving Billy Bishop entirely?

Given they're biz-focussed routes, AC back when they were the only game 'in town' at YTZ would suspend the routes over the XMAS/New Year's holidays. Guess they're doing the same thing this coming holiday season. They resume on 04JAN22.

I did notice the restart showing in the system, however the schedule has not been "revised" beyond 4JAN2021, so it'll be wait-and-see until the next "revision" for the full month of January.

INFINITI329 wrote:

CrewBunk wrote:

I’m just thankful there are no old Russian airframes currently on the market.

Interjet (or what's left of it) is holding on line 1.

EdmFlyBoi wrote:

As previously mentioned, there are unlikely to be more Maxes anywhere at AC. I would anticipate more A220's and an A321NEO order with the possible addition of used A32xCEO's much like how AC added used A330CEO's.

I wonder if they had redo if AC would still order the MAX. After the cancelations of the MAX 9 I think a 321neo order is inevitable.

AA has A332s & A333s stored in the desert, so if AC decides on used frames to increase widebody lift they have options south of the border.

I doubt that. Aren’t AA’s A330s PWs equipped? AC’s are all RR Trents. AC hasn’t had any PW 4000 equipped aircraft since the 747/767 order, and now obviously the A220.

I personally also don’t see mainline service on former Rouge route like YYZ-BUD/OTP/ZAG on the A330 being sustainable, very little premium demand on those routes with little SA connectivity (LH,SX,OS) . I think the next fleet decision will long-haul aircraft for Rouge, the A321XLR would make a lot of sense.

KrisYYZ

krisyyz wrote:

INFINITI329 wrote:

CrewBunk wrote:

I’m just thankful there are no old Russian airframes currently on the market.

Interjet (or what's left of it) is holding on line 1.

EdmFlyBoi wrote:

As previously mentioned, there are unlikely to be more Maxes anywhere at AC. I would anticipate more A220's and an A321NEO order with the possible addition of used A32xCEO's much like how AC added used A330CEO's.

I wonder if they had redo if AC would still order the MAX. After the cancelations of the MAX 9 I think a 321neo order is inevitable.

AA has A332s & A333s stored in the desert, so if AC decides on used frames to increase widebody lift they have options south of the border.

I doubt that. Aren’t AA’s A330s PWs equipped? AC’s are all RR Trents. AC hasn’t had any PW 4000 equipped aircraft since the 747/767 order, and now obviously the A220.

I personally also don’t see mainline service on former Rouge route like YYZ-BUD/OTP/ZAG on the A330 being sustainable, very little premium demand on those routes with little SA connectivity (LH,SX,OS) . I think the next fleet decision will long-haul aircraft for Rouge, the A321XLR would make a lot of sense.

KrisYYZ

I believe their 333s are PW & 332s are RR

I was hoping Rouge didn't make it out of the pandemic, to be honest. Flew them once and I'm not a fan

krisyyz wrote:

I personally also don’t see mainline service on former Rouge route like YYZ-BUD/OTP/ZAG on the A330 being sustainable, very little premium demand on those routes with little SA connectivity (LH,SX,OS) . I think the next fleet decision will long-haul aircraft for Rouge, the A321XLR would make a lot of sense.

Yeah its going to be interesting to see how long these routes stick around. Lets see how ACs plan of connecting pax through YYZ to the US on these flights as well as VFR/diaspora flying.

This gets worse. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/air-cana ... -1.6241411

Gov't tells AC CEO his priority is to learn French

777luver wrote:

This gets worse. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/air-cana ... -1.6241411

Gov't tells AC CEO his priority is to learn French

Hardly surprising. It's in the OLA, after all. And whether we like it or not, AC is subject to the OLA.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/act ... ml#docCont

Section 36.1.c

any management group that is responsible for the general direction of the institution as a whole has the capacity to function in both official languages.

It's not just the Liberals either. Even O'toole made comments.

"I'm disappointed by what Mr. Rousseau said. It's very important to respect our two official languages," Conservative Leader Erin O' Toole said today.

Now, is all of this a bit harsh on Rousseau.. Yes.
Do I agree with the fact that only AC is subject to the OLA and other carriers like Transat, WestJet and Sunwing aren't. No.

shoelessjoe wrote:

Dominion301 wrote:

shoelessjoe wrote:

As of the most recent schedule "update" AC lists both YTZ-YUL and YTZ-YOW as ending effective 19DEC2021. Does anyone know if this is a temporary/seasonal/holiday suspension or is AC (by way of Jazz) leaving Billy Bishop entirely?

Given they're biz-focussed routes, AC back when they were the only game 'in town' at YTZ would suspend the routes over the XMAS/New Year's holidays. Guess they're doing the same thing this coming holiday season. They resume on 04JAN22.

I did notice the restart showing in the system, however the schedule has not been "revised" beyond 4JAN2021, so it'll be wait-and-see until the next "revision" for the full month of January.

It'll be back as a) there would have been no point in announcing YOW-YTZ 7 weeks ago, only to drop it 7 weeks after launching it, and b) there's no way AC's going to hand back a monopoly to Porter at YTZ. AC have historically suspended for two weeks several other biz-heavy routes over the holidays. YOW-YQB (which is still suspended until spring 2022) was historically suspended over the holidays that I can remember off the top of head.

As far as the "Rousseau French Issue" goes I know it's hard for non-Quebecers to understand (I struggle with it as well being an Anglophone in Montreal) but Air Canada does dominate the French speaking air transport market in Canada (~20% of total population). He should know better (he showed a lack of respect).
As far as the French language zealots go-they should know better too (an extremely thin skinned group of people who don't show a lot of respect for "les autres/others" either).

I see that Airbus is sending two A350's to YUL today, both just approaching the coast of NL. AIB001 is the A350-900, and AIB002 is the A350-1000. Is this show Air Canada specific, or are these headed elsewhere ? Just curious if Airbus is courting Air Canada.

YOWVIEWER wrote:

I see that Airbus is sending two A350's to YUL today, both just approaching the coast of NL. AIB001 is the A350-900, and AIB002 is the A350-1000. Is this show Air Canada specific, or are these headed elsewhere ? Just curious if Airbus is courting Air Canada.

Very very interesting

That's what I thought too ! Or could be for a Transat upgrade I suppose, but I like the Air Canada idea much better.

They are so close together that you need to zoom in Flightradar to see them both, Also, they're both at 40,000 ft. and currently 438 kts.
Maybe testing out the formation flying and fuel savings at the same time ?

Transat needing to be lean and mean to survive, their own financial statements say no growth until 2025, if all goes well.
This is very likely an AC sales mission, serving dual purpose for the flying formation fuel savings. Wahoo. I'm trying to network desperately inside AC to get on any visit our these birds. But I'd say I've got about as much chance as these birds being brought in for Transat

YOWVIEWER wrote:

I see that Airbus is sending two A350's to YUL today, both just approaching the coast of NL. AIB001 is the A350-900, and AIB002 is the A350-1000. Is this show Air Canada specific, or are these headed elsewhere ? Just curious if Airbus is courting Air Canada.

From what I have heard it is that Airbus is conducting vortice testing over long flight times so they have the two aircraft following each other over the ocean and its a fuel stop in YUL. Wouldn't surprise me either if they take the opportunity to show them to AC but I am sure AC has all the info they need on the 350.

YOWVIEWER wrote:

I see that Airbus is sending two A350's to YUL today, both just approaching the coast of NL. AIB001 is the A350-900, and AIB002 is the A350-1000. Is this show Air Canada specific, or are these headed elsewhere ? Just curious if Airbus is courting Air Canada.

It's their "fly like geese" project to reduce fuel burn.

346fetish wrote:

YOWVIEWER wrote:

I see that Airbus is sending two A350's to YUL today, both just approaching the coast of NL. AIB001 is the A350-900, and AIB002 is the A350-1000. Is this show Air Canada specific, or are these headed elsewhere ? Just curious if Airbus is courting Air Canada.

It's their "fly like geese" project to reduce fuel burn.

By zooming in with FR24.com, it appears the -1000 is trailing the -900 by about 10s at near the same altitude. The zoom also suggests it is directly behind. Is this possibly for wake testing?

Skywatcher wrote:

As far as the "Rousseau French Issue" goes I know it's hard for non-Quebecers to understand (I struggle with it as well being an Anglophone in Montreal) but Air Canada does dominate the French speaking air transport market in Canada (~20% of total population). He should know better (he showed a lack of respect).
As far as the French language zealots go-they should know better too (an extremely thin skinned group of people who don't show a lot of respect for "les autres/others" either).

He did not show a lack of respect. Period. His comments could've been worded better but to say it was disrespectful is just being dramatic. Did anyone even even watch the video? Id say no. Go watch it, the reporter was incredibly rude and kept asking the question in French after Rosseau asked him to repeat it in English.

The Prime Minister recently appointed a non French speaking Governor General….yet now is interfering in the affaires of a private business over a CEO not being fluent enough in French. Ludicrous.

This is strickly a PR disaster. I could have been mitigated, or even avoided altogether.

We had former unilangual CEOs Robert Milton, Montie Brewer, Hollis L. Harris etc before and the PR side was always under control, w/o any such difficulties.

And those guys also faced similar loaded questions from some reporters. And they were all well prepared in their answers.

It's too bad, as we now got the politicians joining the mess.

Looks like the Quebec language gestapo are adamant about making an example of Rousseau. I would say there's a 30% shot he gets exited under federal pressure.

Whoever is running PR at AC, get your act together. This was wholly preventable.

YOWza

Here's a very interesting take on the event, and 100% on target IMHO.

I highly recommend reading it - even if only to understand better Quebec's particularities...

(3 minutes read)
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contrib ... brand.html

777luver wrote:

Skywatcher wrote:

As far as the "Rousseau French Issue" goes I know it's hard for non-Quebecers to understand (I struggle with it as well being an Anglophone in Montreal) but Air Canada does dominate the French speaking air transport market in Canada (~20% of total population). He should know better (he showed a lack of respect).
As far as the French language zealots go-they should know better too (an extremely thin skinned group of people who don't show a lot of respect for "les autres/others" either).

He did not show a lack of respect. Period. His comments could've been worded better but to say it was disrespectful is just being dramatic. Did anyone even even watch the video? Id say no. Go watch it, the reporter was incredibly rude and kept asking the question in French after Rosseau asked him to repeat it in English.

Americans, Britons, Australians, and so on are notoriously deficient in the desire to speak another lsnguage beyond their own, which is understandable in that English is the world's intercommunication language. But it is also a sad reflection on human laziness and torpidity, and I perfectly understand the Québecois impulse to leave Canada in the lurch. A business person on that level in a PR job for Air Canada should be totally bilingual, and this is one more example of the contempt with which AC views its Francophone customers.

yyztpa2 wrote:

346fetish wrote:

YOWVIEWER wrote:

I see that Airbus is sending two A350's to YUL today, both just approaching the coast of NL. AIB001 is the A350-900, and AIB002 is the A350-1000. Is this show Air Canada specific, or are these headed elsewhere ? Just curious if Airbus is courting Air Canada.

It's their "fly like geese" project to reduce fuel burn.

By zooming in with FR24.com, it appears the -1000 is trailing the -900 by about 10s at near the same altitude. The zoom also suggests it is directly behind. Is this possibly for wake testing?

Anyone see where the aircraft parked for photography purposes?

crosscheckyyz wrote:

yyztpa2 wrote:

346fetish wrote:

It's their "fly like geese" project to reduce fuel burn.

By zooming in with FR24.com, it appears the -1000 is trailing the -900 by about 10s at near the same altitude. The zoom also suggests it is directly behind. Is this possibly for wake testing?

Anyone see where the aircraft parked for photography purposes?

Parked by the trans border gates, the -900 is still showing up on FR24…..

AC makes a big effort to use both languages and others if on a certain route. Every flight operates with crew that will speak French. IMHO to speak or not to speak a language is a personal choice.

ramprat320 wrote:

The Prime Minister recently appointed a non French speaking Governor General….yet now is interfering in the affaires of a private business over a CEO not being fluent enough in French. Ludicrous.

A private business the government has an ownership stake in - something IMHO that never should have happened.

Air Canada is at a disadvantage as it is, as it alone is handcuffed by the “Air Canada Act” No other carrier that operates to/from or within Canada has as many rules and regulations pertaining to French language law as Air Canada. By in large Air Canada adheres to and goes above and beyond its French language law requirements and puts its competitors to shame in this regard. It’s lunacy however that an Air Canada flight from Saskatoon to Vancouver has different language requirements than a WestJet Saskatoon to Vancouver flight, but it does. Welcome to Canada.

AWNP wrote:

ramprat320 wrote:

The Prime Minister recently appointed a non French speaking Governor General….yet now is interfering in the affaires of a private business over a CEO not being fluent enough in French. Ludicrous.

A private business the government has an ownership stake in - something IMHO that never should have happened.

If they sold their stake right now they will have already made 68 million. The sooner the tie between the government of Canada and Air Canada is cut the better. I realize AC needed the security given Covid and had little choice in the matter however the sooner the federal government sells the sooner they will stop being able to hold that over the corporations head as leverage.

HJM wrote:

AC makes a big effort to use both languages and others if on a certain route. Every flight operates with crew that will speak French. IMHO to speak or not to speak a language is a personal choice.

It’s not a “big effort”, it’s because it’s the law. Under the Air Canada Participation Act they are required to have French on board every flight.

It is indeed a big effort and enormous undertaking in terms of manpower and financial resources to meet all the requirements. It goes way beyond simply requiring a French speaking flight attendant onboard.

I remember when Hollis Harris was CEO of Air Canada. (Yeah, I’m that old). He’s about as French as catfish with biscuits and gravy. He was given the task of making Air Canada leaner like the American carriers with which he had been associated.

He assembled a committee to see exactly what bilingualism was costing Air Canada. It didn’t take very long before someone advised him that it was illegal to put a dollar amount on the cost of bilingualism in Canada. (Or it might have been Québéc, I can’t recall) ….. it’s a funny country.

But, he did tell the pilots ….. “As far as i got, yeah, it’s expensive”.

ramprat320 wrote:

It is indeed a big effort and enormous undertaking in terms of manpower and financial resources to meet all the requirements. It goes way beyond simply requiring a French speaking flight attendant onboard.

In that sense it definitely is, I agree….

Whiteguy wrote:

crosscheckyyz wrote:

yyztpa2 wrote:

By zooming in with FR24.com, it appears the -1000 is trailing the -900 by about 10s at near the same altitude. The zoom also suggests it is directly behind. Is this possibly for wake testing?

Anyone see where the aircraft parked for photography purposes?

Parked by the trans border gates, the -900 is still showing up on FR24…..

FYI, both are departing YUL just after 11am this morning for Toulouse.

AIB01 and 02 are on the move
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01/29d0d3e7
(so, how many did they sell? )

ExMilitaryEng wrote:

Here's a very interesting take on the event, and 100% on target IMHO.

I highly recommend reading it - even if only to understand better Quebec's particularities...

(3 minutes read)
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contrib ... brand.html

I did not find this article insightful. All it seems to say is that Monsieur Rousseau was disrespectful. Having watched the video, that appears to be a very subjective opinion. There is no -apparent lack of respect, but this topic means different things to different people so YMMV.

The rest of it doesn’t make sense. Rousseau is not Musk or Bezos. He does not try to be, and the AC brand isn’t linked to him the way Musk is with Tesla and Bezos is with Amazon - he did not found AC. Similarly, TS is not a viable substitute for AC. To be honest, it comes across as a poorly-thought out rant.

I think this article in the same paper is far more insightful:

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contrib ... ngual.html

In essence, “Air Canada” is an invaluable brand, and to profit from it, AC must appoint bilingual CEOs.

Given the author’s own background in government (he served as a Senator), I wonder how much his thinking reflects Ottawa’s thinking on AC. AC seems to be stuck in some halfway house between being government controlled and being a private airline. I think we can all agree that this is the worst of both worlds - it should be one or the other.

Is the “Air Canada” brand invaluable? I don’t think so - no reason to believe the exact same airline, with the exact same management in the exact same conditions would not be as profitable (or more, if it didn’t have to meet ACPPA and other associated obligations) under the “Canadian” brand, or even Air Rousseau. Brands come and go, and their value fluctuates frequently (by Ms Hebert’s own account) but demand tends to be less finicky.

I think investors would like to be able to appoint whoever they think is best for the job, rather than limit their options, as the author demands:

“ Some will say that such a requirement will limit the board’s ability to appoint the best person. This is both nonsense and insulting. If this requirement is made clear once and for all, English-speaking Canadians who have the ambition to one day become Air Canada’s CEO will make sure to learn French. If they won’t, they can send their resumé to dozens of other large corporations that are not Canadian icons.”

I’m not convinced that reducing the number of talented or skilled qualified candidates because of language is ever a good idea.

Interestingly, the author also also reminds us that his father was an AC chairman. Google turned up an odd story:

“When he took over as chairman of the government-owned Air Canada in 1968, Yves Pratte was a highly respected lawyer in Quebec and a close friend of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau. Last week Pratte was a fallen man, his reputation tainted by scandal and charges of ineptitude. In a bitter letter of resignation, he left no doubt that even Trudeau wanted him to go.”

http://content.time.com/time/subscriber ... 43,00.html

And that’s just the opening paragraph. Ironically (am I using that correctly?) highlights the importance of getting right the decisions on who should lead the company.

ExMilitaryEng wrote:

Here's a very interesting take on the event, and 100% on target IMHO.

I highly recommend reading it - even if only to understand better Quebec's particularities...

(3 minutes read)
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contrib ... brand.html

Air Canada's brand has long been tarnished domestically with awful service, loosing bags, and highly overpriced flights to name a few so this article doesn't hold any real weight. Honestly, nobody even knows who this guy is. He's just an airline CEO not running Apple or Amazon.

Should he have said it? No. Should he know french? Sure. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of life? Not really, we've got way bigger problems to solve than this.

lostsound wrote:

ExMilitaryEng wrote:

Here's a very interesting take on the event, and 100% on target IMHO.

I highly recommend reading it - even if only to understand better Quebec's particularities...

(3 minutes read)
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contrib ... brand.html

Air Canada's brand has long been tarnished domestically with awful service, loosing bags, and highly overpriced flights to name a few so this article doesn't hold any real weight. Honestly, nobody even knows who this guy is. He's just an airline CEO not running Apple or Amazon.

Should he have said it? No. Should he know french? Sure. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of life? Not really, we've got way bigger problems to solve than this.

Like any of that doesn't happen with any other airline. Please. Come up with a better argument. And blame the govt for high prices not the airlines

lostsound wrote:

ExMilitaryEng wrote:

Here's a very interesting take on the event, and 100% on target IMHO.

I highly recommend reading it - even if only to understand better Quebec's particularities...

(3 minutes read)
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contrib ... brand.html

Air Canada's brand has long been tarnished domestically with awful service, loosing bags, and highly overpriced flights to name a few so this article doesn't hold any real weight. Honestly, nobody even knows who this guy is. He's just an airline CEO not running Apple or Amazon.

Should he have said it? No. Should he know french? Sure. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of life? Not really, we've got way bigger problems to solve than this.

Which essentially is the problem with the present Prime Minister - makes consistently bad choices and focuses on things that are not especially relevant to the running of the country to court groups that might vote for him. He has made bad decision after bad decision and is quite frankly a hypocrite. And yes, there are much more important matters that require attention than AC's CEO's lack of ability to speak French.