embraer175e2 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

Can easy air of Curacao make enough profit to survive with their new saab340 additions? I heard they had problems with some customers in Bonaire due to not paying back customers of covid cancellings.

Brickell305 wrote:

aa1818 wrote:

gunnerman wrote:

As the GoRTT makes it impossible or difficult for many to visit the country it's no surprise that airlines aren't rushing to resume flights. I see that BA won't serve POS and TAB from LGW until 28 September and 1 October respectively, and only with weekly flights.

I don't think that's true at all.
Effective July 17th 2021, the GORTT opened the borders to
(1) Vaccinated Non-nationals- with a negative PCR test taken 72 hours prior to arrival, easy arrival, no quarantine and no further testing
(2) Vaccinated Nationals- with a negative PCR test taken 72 hours prior to arrival, no quarantine and no further testing
(3) Unvaccinated non-Nationals- who have to quarantine after providing a negative PCR test prior to arrival and completing a second negative test after 7 days on island.

I would argue that those rules are even more lax than Barbados which has largely remained open through the pandemic.

Cheers,
AA1818

Just one point, I think number 3 should be unvaccinated nationals. AFAIK, unvaccinated non-nationals are still banned from entry. I agree with your larger point. It’s fairly easy to enter T&T at this time. You just have to be vaccinated.

embraer175e2 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

Can EZ air of Curacao make enough profit to survive with their new saab340 additions? Is their enough market for a thirty seater on the Curacao market? I heard they had problems with some customers in Bonaire due to not paying back customers of covid cancellings.

aa1818 wrote:

maverick4002 wrote:

jetblue has flights loaded early september

I believe so do PY, AA and BA. I'm not sure if UA has loaded flights for POS yet.

Anyone knows if/ when CM will return to POS. Did they fly into BGI pre-pandemic?

Cheers,
AA1818

windian425 wrote:

CM returns to POS in September. Either the 1st or 5th of September. Not certain of frequency.

windian425 wrote:

Ouch, some crazy times but i guess it works for connections in PTY.

aa1818 wrote:

BW today announced the resumption of
POS-MCO-POS (Mondays and Fridays) and POS-SLU-POS (Mondays and Fridays) both beginning this Monday 16th August. Very short notice it seems.

Cheers,
AA1818

gunnerman wrote:

VS is pressing ahead with SVD (which was due to be launched in June 2021 but is now scheduled for 13 October on Wednesdays and Sundays). Flights will be LHR-BGI-SVD with the return via BGI using the 789.

SVD currently has Wednesday and Saturday flights from MIA by AA and expects Monday flights from YYZ by AC Rouge from 1 November. One day BW may reinstate its weekly JFK-SVD-POS flight (which was on Wednesdays IIRC).

caribbean484 wrote:

The 3rd BW 737MAX is out in RNT registered 9Y-ANT for Antigua
BW has increased KIN-JFK-KIN this week from 4w to 6w due to heavy loads on their flights

aa1818 wrote:

BW today announced the resumption of
POS-MCO-POS (Mondays and Fridays) and POS-SLU-POS (Mondays and Fridays) both beginning this Monday 16th August. Very short notice it seems.

Cheers,
AA1818

Actually they advertised the flights were starting August when they released the schedule out in early July, they are just now marketing it more. The flights have very good loads.

gunnerman wrote:

VS is pressing ahead with SVD (which was due to be launched in June 2021 but is now scheduled for 13 October on Wednesdays and Sundays). Flights will be LHR-BGI-SVD with the return via BGI using the 789.

SVD currently has Wednesday and Saturday flights from MIA by AA and expects Monday flights from YYZ by AC Rouge from 1 November. One day BW may reinstate its weekly JFK-SVD-POS flight (which was on Wednesdays IIRC).

I don't expect to see a resumption of BW flights until Christmas.

maverick4002 wrote:

caribbean484 wrote:

The 3rd BW 737MAX is out in RNT registered 9Y-ANT for Antigua
BW has increased KIN-JFK-KIN this week from 4w to 6w due to heavy loads on their flights

aa1818 wrote:

BW today announced the resumption of
POS-MCO-POS (Mondays and Fridays) and POS-SLU-POS (Mondays and Fridays) both beginning this Monday 16th August. Very short notice it seems.

Cheers,
AA1818

Actually they advertised the flights were starting August when they released the schedule out in early July, they are just now marketing it more. The flights have very good loads.

gunnerman wrote:

VS is pressing ahead with SVD (which was due to be launched in June 2021 but is now scheduled for 13 October on Wednesdays and Sundays). Flights will be LHR-BGI-SVD with the return via BGI using the 789.

SVD currently has Wednesday and Saturday flights from MIA by AA and expects Monday flights from YYZ by AC Rouge from 1 November. One day BW may reinstate its weekly JFK-SVD-POS flight (which was on Wednesdays IIRC).

I don't expect to see a resumption of BW flights until Christmas.

Any insight into when deliveries will start? Its been longer than usual since the first aircraft appeared no?

caribbean484 wrote:

maverick4002 wrote:

caribbean484 wrote:

The 3rd BW 737MAX is out in RNT registered 9Y-ANT for Antigua
BW has increased KIN-JFK-KIN this week from 4w to 6w due to heavy loads on their flights



Actually they advertised the flights were starting August when they released the schedule out in early July, they are just now marketing it more. The flights have very good loads.



I don't expect to see a resumption of BW flights until Christmas.

Any insight into when deliveries will start? Its been longer than usual since the first aircraft appeared no?

My understanding is that 9Y-GUY has been delivered to BW/ALC and is in PAE getting the Caribbean painted underneath the a/c and some other mods. The VP of Engineering and Chief Pilots were in RNT to take delivery of the a/c and it's supposed to be in POS in September. CAL is still being tested but it should also be ready for delivery.
I am not sure if BW is waiting for more NGs contracts to expire to take MAXs in, but they have been there longer than anticipated. I was told they were to be in POS in July.

BWIA 772 wrote:

caribbean484 wrote:

maverick4002 wrote:

Any insight into when deliveries will start? Its been longer than usual since the first aircraft appeared no?

My understanding is that 9Y-GUY has been delivered to BW/ALC and is in PAE getting the Caribbean painted underneath the a/c and some other mods. The VP of Engineering and Chief Pilots were in RNT to take delivery of the a/c and it's supposed to be in POS in September. CAL is still being tested but it should also be ready for delivery.
I am not sure if BW is waiting for more NGs contracts to expire to take MAXs in, but they have been there longer than anticipated. I was told they were to be in POS in July.

Will they be putting the rainbow swirl as well? Did BW invest anything extra in their hard product on these new birds. Hopefully the fabric choice for the economy seats is more like the ATR than the original 737NG.

Regards

caribbean484 wrote:

BWIA 772 wrote:

caribbean484 wrote:

My understanding is that 9Y-GUY has been delivered to BW/ALC and is in PAE getting the Caribbean painted underneath the a/c and some other mods. The VP of Engineering and Chief Pilots were in RNT to take delivery of the a/c and it's supposed to be in POS in September. CAL is still being tested but it should also be ready for delivery.
I am not sure if BW is waiting for more NGs contracts to expire to take MAXs in, but they have been there longer than anticipated. I was told they were to be in POS in July.

Will they be putting the rainbow swirl as well? Did BW invest anything extra in their hard product on these new birds. Hopefully the fabric choice for the economy seats is more like the ATR than the original 737NG.

Regards

I can confirm no Rainbow swirl will be placed on the MAXs, only the ATRs will be getting these.
I can't confirm much anything on the hard and soft product, however all that I got was there will be an upgrade (Obviously). The last rumor I heard was F gets PTVs and Y is BYOD.

LimaFoxTango wrote:

BW has been doing quite a bit of flights (charters I assume) to CUR lately, with the most recent being today OGL-CUR (19Aug). Anyone know's what's up?

baje427 wrote:

aa1818 wrote:

maverick4002 wrote:

jetblue has flights loaded early september

I believe so do PY, AA and BA. I'm not sure if UA has loaded flights for POS yet.

Anyone knows if/ when CM will return to POS. Did they fly into BGI pre-pandemic?

Cheers,
AA1818

I think the tourism minister in BGI said CM is planning on returning however, no definitive date has been given. I would be surprised if they resumed service to BGI this year to be honest.

embraer175e2 wrote:

Can EZ air of Curacao with the saab340 compete against Jet Air fokker70 on the Curacao-Medellin route?

2travel2know2 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

Can EZ air of Curacao with the saab340 compete against Jet Air fokker70 on the Curacao-Medellin route?

If Colombia was to allow international flights in/out EOH (inside Medellín), perhaps it could have somewhat of an edge in the market.
But that distance on a Saab340, doesn't really makes the flight that appealing.
MDE CUR 046° (NE) 054° (NE) 605 mi
CUR EOH 228° (SW) 240° (SW) 611 mi
For shorter segments, be CUR - Riohacha, Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Maicao.. probably yes.

embraer175e2 wrote:

How is Air Century santo domingo doing with their 3 crj200 's on the caribbean routes?

embraer175e2 wrote:

2travel2know2 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

Can EZ air of Curacao with the saab340 compete against Jet Air fokker70 on the Curacao-Medellin route?

If Colombia was to allow international flights in/out EOH (inside Medellín), perhaps it could have somewhat of an edge in the market.
But that distance on a Saab340, doesn't really makes the flight that appealing.
MDE CUR 046° (NE) 054° (NE) 605 mi
CUR EOH 228° (SW) 240° (SW) 611 mi
For shorter segments, be CUR - Riohacha, Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Maicao.. probably yes.

I fully agree with you. I read in the newspaper that they want to start flights to medellin with the saab340. At the same time jet air also wants to fly this route with thefokker70. I guess most passengers will choose for jetsair.

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

2travel2know2 wrote:

If Colombia was to allow international flights in/out EOH (inside Medellín), perhaps it could have somewhat of an edge in the market.
But that distance on a Saab340, doesn't really makes the flight that appealing.
MDE CUR 046° (NE) 054° (NE) 605 mi
CUR EOH 228° (SW) 240° (SW) 611 mi
For shorter segments, be CUR - Riohacha, Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Maicao.. probably yes.

I fully agree with you. I read in the newspaper that they want to start flights to medellin with the saab340. At the same time jet air also wants to fly this route with thefokker70. I guess most passengers will choose for jetsair.

It's yet to be seen if EzAir will get the proper approvals to operate the Saab 340 commercially from Curacao CAA. It hasn't operated a commercial flight as yet. The other Saabs are on hold as of now. And if they were to launch Medellin with the Saab, what would they be restricted to payload wise? The Saab 340s are notorious for not being able to take high payloads even at sea level, never mind at Medellin's elevation. I really don't know why EzAir went for the Saab's, and not only that, but choosing to keep them November registered...... Which is what the hold up with the approval is. Keeping it November registered means Curacao CAA has no oversight with the operation. And you can bet the FAA won't be checking up on it either..

Another question is why did Jetair send one of the Fokkers back to Holland in May? They're down to only one Fokker 70 now.

embraer175e2 wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

I fully agree with you. I read in the newspaper that they want to start flights to medellin with the saab340. At the same time jet air also wants to fly this route with thefokker70. I guess most passengers will choose for jetsair.

It's yet to be seen if EzAir will get the proper approvals to operate the Saab 340 commercially from Curacao CAA. It hasn't operated a commercial flight as yet. The other Saabs are on hold as of now. And if they were to launch Medellin with the Saab, what would they be restricted to payload wise? The Saab 340s are notorious for not being able to take high payloads even at sea level, never mind at Medellin's elevation. I really don't know why EzAir went for the Saab's, and not only that, but choosing to keep them November registered...... Which is what the hold up with the approval is. Keeping it November registered means Curacao CAA has no oversight with the operation. And you can bet the FAA won't be checking up on it either..

Another question is why did Jetair send one of the Fokkers back to Holland in May? They're down to only one Fokker 70 now.

Jet Air send the fokker70 out for a C check this is what they are saying in the media.
EZ air will most probably de register their saab to PJ in the near future.

But still the big question remains how they will be able to compete and survive on a 600 nm segment of Curacao Medellin against the fokker 70 jet of Jet Air.

And also if there is enough space / market for a 30 seater on the ABC routes competing against the CRJ 200 of Aruba airlines and the twin otters of Divi Divi Air.

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

It's yet to be seen if EzAir will get the proper approvals to operate the Saab 340 commercially from Curacao CAA. It hasn't operated a commercial flight as yet. The other Saabs are on hold as of now. And if they were to launch Medellin with the Saab, what would they be restricted to payload wise? The Saab 340s are notorious for not being able to take high payloads even at sea level, never mind at Medellin's elevation. I really don't know why EzAir went for the Saab's, and not only that, but choosing to keep them November registered...... Which is what the hold up with the approval is. Keeping it November registered means Curacao CAA has no oversight with the operation. And you can bet the FAA won't be checking up on it either..

Another question is why did Jetair send one of the Fokkers back to Holland in May? They're down to only one Fokker 70 now.

Jet Air send the fokker70 out for a C check this is what they are saying in the media.
EZ air will most probably de register their saab to PJ in the near future.

But still the big question remains how they will be able to compete and survive on a 600 nm segment of Curacao Medellin against the fokker 70 jet of Jet Air.

And also if there is enough space / market for a 30 seater on the ABC routes competing against the CRJ 200 of Aruba airlines and the twin otters of Divi Divi Air.

From what I understand deregistration is not possible under the agreement with Silver Airways. Hence the problem.

Jetair's second Fokker, PJ-JAB wasn't sent back for a C-Check. It's currently in storage at a Dutch Air Base since May.

embraer175e2 wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

Jet Air send the fokker70 out for a C check this is what they are saying in the media.
EZ air will most probably de register their saab to PJ in the near future.

But still the big question remains how they will be able to compete and survive on a 600 nm segment of Curacao Medellin against the fokker 70 jet of Jet Air.

And also if there is enough space / market for a 30 seater on the ABC routes competing against the CRJ 200 of Aruba airlines and the twin otters of Divi Divi Air.

From what I understand deregistration is not possible under the agreement with Silver Airways. Hence the problem.

Jetair's second Fokker, PJ-JAB wasn't sent back for a C-Check. It's currently in storage at a Dutch Air Base since May.

Then their is a chance that JETAIR run out of cash due to covid. Very tricky to operate with only one aircraft.
For EZair can you operate for a long time with a november registered aircraft under a Curacao AOC? Didnt know this was posible.

As for Aruba airlines, any news when they will resume operations?

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

From what I understand deregistration is not possible under the agreement with Silver Airways. Hence the problem.

Jetair's second Fokker, PJ-JAB wasn't sent back for a C-Check. It's currently in storage at a Dutch Air Base since May.

Then their is a chance that JETAIR run out of cash due to covid. Very tricky to operate with only one aircraft.
For EZair can you operate for a long time with a november registered aircraft under a Curacao AOC? Didnt know this was posible.

As for Aruba airlines, any news when they will resume operations?

I believe Curacao allows ACMI (which is what leaving it as November would entail) for 6-12 months. But I'm lead to believe that this isn't an option for them, it has to be deregistered. With Silver not wanting this to happen. Time will tell what happens with regards to this.

Not sure what's going on with Aruba Airlines, but I'm sure its not on the up and up based on what I've heard....

embraer175e2 wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

Then their is a chance that JETAIR run out of cash due to covid. Very tricky to operate with only one aircraft.
For EZair can you operate for a long time with a november registered aircraft under a Curacao AOC? Didnt know this was posible.

As for Aruba airlines, any news when they will resume operations?

I believe Curacao allows ACMI (which is what leaving it as November would entail) for 6-12 months. But I'm lead to believe that this isn't an option for them, it has to be deregistered. With Silver not wanting this to happen. Time will tell what happens with regards to this.

Not sure what's going on with Aruba Airlines, but I'm sure its not on the up and up based on what I've heard....

Mean...... ? Aruba Airlines is almost bankrupt?

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

From what I understand deregistration is not possible under the agreement with Silver Airways. Hence the problem.

Jetair's second Fokker, PJ-JAB wasn't sent back for a C-Check. It's currently in storage at a Dutch Air Base since May.

Then their is a chance that JETAIR run out of cash due to covid. Very tricky to operate with only one aircraft.
For EZair can you operate for a long time with a november registered aircraft under a Curacao AOC? Didnt know this was posible.

As for Aruba airlines, any news when they will resume operations?

I believe Curacao allows ACMI (which is what leaving it as November would entail) for 6-12 months. But I'm lead to believe that this isn't an option for them, it has to be deregistered. With Silver not wanting this to happen. Time will tell what happens with regards to this.

Not sure what's going on with Aruba Airlines, but I'm sure its not on the up and up based on what I've heard....

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

I believe Curacao allows ACMI (which is what leaving it as November would entail) for 6-12 months. But I'm lead to believe that this isn't an option for them, it has to be deregistered. With Silver not wanting this to happen. Time will tell what happens with regards to this.

Not sure what's going on with Aruba Airlines, but I'm sure its not on the up and up based on what I've heard....

Mean...... ? Aruba Airlines is almost bankrupt?

Not sure if they are going bankrupt. That I don't know.

Their problems recently have stemmed from embargos being put on their bank accounts for one reasons or the other. They may have money, but getting access to it is another story. That's about as much as I should say.

embraer175e2 wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

Mean...... ? Aruba Airlines is almost bankrupt?

Not sure if they are going bankrupt. That I don't know.

Their problems recently have stemmed from embargos being put on their bank accounts for one reasons or the other. They may have money, but getting access to it is another story. That's about as much as I should say.

Thats bad for Aruba Airlines. When you are a very bad payer with alot of debts this happens.

windian425 wrote:

Barbados PM today announced that B6 will resume FLL-BGI-FLL in November. Not sure of the frequency or start date yet. Only a brief statement during a press conference today.

baje427 wrote:

windian425 wrote:

Barbados PM today announced that B6 will resume FLL-BGI-FLL in November. Not sure of the frequency or start date yet. Only a brief statement during a press conference today.

I was wondering if she made an error with that statement.

turk223 wrote:

baje427 wrote:

aa1818 wrote:

I believe so do PY, AA and BA. I'm not sure if UA has loaded flights for POS yet.

Anyone knows if/ when CM will return to POS. Did they fly into BGI pre-pandemic?

Cheers,
AA1818

I think the tourism minister in BGI said CM is planning on returning however, no definitive date has been given. I would be surprised if they resumed service to BGI this year to be honest.

Looks like CM is resuming PTY-BGI in early December, twice a week. Exact same schedule as before cancelling due to the pandemic in March, 2020. Only change will be the equipment to a 737-800 as the E-190s and 737-700s are no longer in the fleet.

At least, I HOPE it stays so as I am booked for December 8!

embraer175e2 wrote:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/103206-intercaribbean-airways-set-to-make-south-american-debut

How is the embraer145 of interCaribbean performing? Can this small jet handle the caribbean baggage weight on the routes that its flying?

gunnerman wrote:

As the GoRTT makes it impossible or difficult for many to visit the country it's no surprise that airlines aren't rushing to resume flights. I see that BA won't serve POS and TAB from LGW until 28 September and 1 October respectively, and only with weekly flights.

embraer175e2 wrote:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/103206-intercaribbean-airways-set-to-make-south-american-debut

How is the embraer145 of interjet performing? Can this small jet handle the caribbean baggage weight on the routes that its flying?

baje427 wrote:

embraer175e2 wrote:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/103206-intercaribbean-airways-set-to-make-south-american-debut

How is the embraer145 of interjet performing? Can this small jet handle the caribbean baggage weight on the routes that its flying?

It's unlikely any Caribbean airline is doing well in this environment.

embraer175e2 wrote:

https://antiguanewsroom.com/dominica-american-airlines-to-fly-directly-to-dominica-from-miami/ american airlines using embraer175 on 2 newcaribbean routes from Miami. Using the e175 on thinner routes showing the versatality of this aircraft. What do you guys think?

embraer175e2 wrote:

We can expect intercaribbean airways in Curacao and Aruba by the end of 2021.

Celebrating 26 years of service in February 2018, interCaribbean Airways is a regional airline based in Providenciales, The Turks & Caicos Islands. With a hub in Providenciales connecting to cities in the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Bahamas, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Antigua and the British Virgin Islands, Dominica and St Lucia. New schedule services to Aruba, Curacao, Trinidad and Guyana are imminent.

Quote from their website :"The introduction of ERJ145 jets debuts into service in July 2018 giving the company the ability to operate longer flights with higher seating capacity. The goal of connecting more of..."