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Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:38 pm

Welcome to the Interjet News and Discussion Thread 2021. Please continue to post your news and your discussion here.

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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:36 pm

Interjet Vacations which is run by a company called Resérvalo has filed for bankruptcy.

https://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/ ... n-quiebra/
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:36 pm

Grounding extended till "February" with January flights removed from sale.

https://heraldodemexico.com.mx/economia ... 41230.html
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:31 pm

Yes seems like February 1, but that is even very doubtful as the company has US $125m tax debt pending and is 3-months behind paying employees.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/corona ... anuary-31/
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:59 pm

Interjet workers went on strike today. They're owed 4 months of pay, including the Christmas bonus (required by law in Mexico), and 6 months of other kinds of job perks like food vouchers, and saving funds.

https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico- ... SL1N2JJ185
 
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:21 pm

So they were basically operating at workers' expense, if you remove all pretenses. Yes, as someone pointed upthread, the definition for his kind of behaviour is "disgusting".
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:31 pm

Have the employees actually been doing anything since the airline “temporarily” ceased flying or is the strike more symbolic than anything.
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:41 pm

From what I read in the last thread, how does Interjet even still exist in 2021?
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:17 pm

I saw all ticket counter and gate signage has been removed from the SAT airport.
 
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:19 pm

ryanrap1 wrote:
I saw all ticket counter and gate signage has been removed from the SAT airport.

So it's definitely not a temporary grounding, at least for US service. I wouldn't be surprised if it was over soon.
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:24 pm

ryanrap1 wrote:
I saw all ticket counter and gate signage has been removed from the SAT airport.


They stopped flying international on March 24, 2020, it was a matter of time this happens. Also with the pending litigation with the ORD airport, I don't think they will fly to the US if they manage to survive (doubtful)

Newark727 wrote:
From what I read in the last thread, how does Interjet even still exist in 2021?


This is pure speculation, but some people have been wondered for a while about a government rescue package. According to media reports, there's no appetite for the airlines to move to the Santa Lucia airport and this could be a part of the arrangement. But again this is speculation.
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:57 pm

rabader wrote:
ryanrap1 wrote:
I saw all ticket counter and gate signage has been removed from the SAT airport.


They stopped flying international on March 24, 2020, it was a matter of time this happens. Also with the pending litigation with the ORD airport, I don't think they will fly to the US if they manage to survive (doubtful)

Newark727 wrote:
From what I read in the last thread, how does Interjet even still exist in 2021?


This is pure speculation, but some people have been wondered for a while about a government rescue package. According to media reports, there's no appetite for the airlines to move to the Santa Lucia airport and this could be a part of the arrangement. But again this is speculation.


Of course, there is a lot of politics regarding the future of Interjet, that is why in my opinión it still exists, at least in the paper!
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:48 am

Does anyone have any Interjet news or update? 1st of February was supposed to be an important date, but I haven’t seen anything, not even in social media.

It would be good to hear anything...
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:10 pm

Well, I can't access their website interjet.com
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:16 pm

Seems the businessman Alejandro del Valle who became president of the airline in December still says the carrier will receive US$150 million dollars capital from one of his investment funds to rescue the airline.
The airline however still has big debts including nearly $150mil to various parties including government agencies such as the tax administration.

https://www.eleconomista.net/economia/I ... -0034.html
https://www.reportur.com/aerolineas/202 ... as-deudas/

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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:06 pm

Newark727 wrote:

From what I read in the last thread, how does Interjet even still exist in 2021?


Didn't Mexicana linger around for years as a legal entity? Even oneworld had MX listed as a member long after they shut down. Someone with a better understanding of Mexican corporate law could explain.
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:07 am

OzarkD9S wrote:
Newark727 wrote:

From what I read in the last thread, how does Interjet even still exist in 2021?


Didn't Mexicana linger around for years as a legal entity? Even oneworld had MX listed as a member long after they shut down. Someone with a better understanding of Mexican corporate law could explain.

Mexicana MRO still exists. Not sure what ties it has/had, if any, with the former airline. Still, it’s cool to see the Mexicana logo on the on the hangar when you taxi past.

As to Interjet… this is the world of Mexican corporations and politics. Anything could happen. Laws seem to be flexible depending on who’s involved.
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:32 pm

Interjet workers won an arbitration case that validated their two-month-old strike and affirmed the status of their claim for outstanding wages of four months plus the accumulated wages during weeks of unemployment.

https://www.efe.com/efe/espana/mexico-e ... 36-4474423
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Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:35 pm

OzarkD9S wrote:
Newark727 wrote:

From what I read in the last thread, how does Interjet even still exist in 2021?


Didn't Mexicana linger around for years as a legal entity? Even oneworld had MX listed as a member long after they shut down. Someone with a better understanding of Mexican corporate law could explain.

Mexicana still has A320s on Airbus’s order book. So some entity is still around requiring formal closure of the order.
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:56 pm

Well it look like Mexicana is closer to returning back to the skies. They just started hiring workers from Interjet and some of them actually used to work for MX. Mexicana has been on the news lately on returning, I hope they do!


https://a21.com.mx/aeronautica/2021/02/ ... a-mexicana
https://expansion.mx/empresas/2021/02/2 ... y-mexicana
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:42 pm

The only fact in those news articles is that Mexicana MRO has hired some of Interjet's maintenance workers not that they are actually relaunching the airline (the first article mentions that a union is exploring relaunching MX as a cooperative but even they admit it's unlikely).

Mexicana MRO is the last remaining subsidiary of Mexicana but it's not doing well as it had to furlough workers and cut wages due to the collapse of demand due to COVID19. It only restarted work a few months ago doing maintenance for LATAM, GOL and Azul.

Last year Kingsland Holdings (an Avianca shareholder) tried to buy Mexicana MRO but the sale was canceled due to the pandemic. As the last remaining asset of Mexicana it was expected that the resources obtained by selling the MRO would go to finally pay what it's owed to MX former employees.
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:24 pm

LAXintl wrote:
Interjet workers won an arbitration case that validated their two-month-old strike and affirmed the status of their claim for outstanding wages of four months plus the accumulated wages during weeks of unemployment.

https://www.efe.com/efe/espana/mexico-e ... 36-4474423

This is why I find making workers work without pay as an extremely horrible practice that must be banned.

The employees will not receive back pay in any significant amount.

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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:32 pm

lightsaber wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
Interjet workers won an arbitration case that validated their two-month-old strike and affirmed the status of their claim for outstanding wages of four months plus the accumulated wages during weeks of unemployment.

https://www.efe.com/efe/espana/mexico-e ... 36-4474423

This is why I find making workers work without pay as an extremely horrible practice that must be banned.

The employees will not receive back pay in any significant amount.

Lightsaber


Why doesn’t/didn’t someone step in sooner and stop that nonsense? You shouldn’t be able to miss a second pay period and continue to operate. I’d also say after miss #2 you’re declared immediately bankrupt and forced to surrender assets to pay wages current
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:19 pm

Speedy752 wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
Interjet workers won an arbitration case that validated their two-month-old strike and affirmed the status of their claim for outstanding wages of four months plus the accumulated wages during weeks of unemployment.

https://www.efe.com/efe/espana/mexico-e ... 36-4474423

This is why I find making workers work without pay as an extremely horrible practice that must be banned.

The employees will not receive back pay in any significant amount.

Lightsaber


Why doesn’t/didn’t someone step in sooner and stop that nonsense? You shouldn’t be able to miss a second pay period and continue to operate. I’d also say after miss #2 you’re declared immediately bankrupt and forced to surrender assets to pay wages current


To work this way, that has to be written down into the law first. And considering how many jurisdictions are out there, good luck with getting this to work universally.
Also, (to play devil's advocate. Disclaimer: I do not believe in not paying employees. I you can't afford to pay staff, don't hire.) in a business like airlines, one can almost see how this "let's fly another day, maybe the income from this day actually goes into payroll" could work. Especially if you have a dismal job market out there. And the airline has no tangible assets (airplanes are leased, office space is rented, etc.), and once the airline is grounded, all intangibles (brand, loyalty, all money sunk into certification, training, etc.) are zero (or even negative) worth, and there's nothing to recover from liquidation.

And for "someone to step in sooner" -- if you mean a bureaucrat somewhere -- I gather you do understand, that (most) bureaucrats actually do something, only in situations, when doing nothing is risky/inconvenient/improper for them? As long as there's no specific bureaucrat, who's job is to "step in sooner", don't expect them to do anything.
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:55 pm

Interjet majority investor, Alejandro del Valle, backout from a plan to sell the airline to a group of investors who planned to take over labor liabilities, in addition to the debts with the Mexican treasury.
Valle was originally going to provide US$150mil funding himself to save the airline but never produced it.

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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:05 pm

All because of that goddamn SSj100
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Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:27 pm

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All because of that goddamn SSj100

No, although the SSJ100s certainly didn’t help. In the end though Interjet was operating as a weird hybrid where they couldn’t compete on cost against the growing Mexican LCCs like Viva and Volaris, and didn’t have the network to compete against the likes of Aeromexico. Their A320s only had 150 seats in a single class, which while very comfortable was absolutely ridiculous. JetBlue can make the hybrid model work but the US is a larger and richer market. And even JetBlue densified and created opportunities to upcharge for more legroom.
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:47 pm

The SSJ100s were fun to fly on!

Interjet flights were nearly always late, sometimes cancelled. Terrible check-in experience in Mex City didn’t help. Flight attendants became jaded and there was absolutely no culture of service in the organization.

Not specifically causing the airline to collapse, but they were warning signs that things were not right.
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:42 pm

Gregd75 wrote:
The SSJ100s were fun to fly on!

Interjet flights were nearly always late, sometimes cancelled. Terrible check-in experience in Mex City didn’t help. Flight attendants became jaded and there was absolutely no culture of service in the organization.

Not specifically causing the airline to collapse, but they were warning signs that things were not right.


I agree. When they were based in Toluca (TLC), they were a great airline. But moving into Mexico City (MEX) and expanding their operation like they did always looked like a big chunk they never managed to chew.

Cero service attitude from their personnel in MEX since day one, and huge delays since they took the SSJs.

They got greedy without the capacity to manage that sort of expansion, and also they thought that the low price of the Superjets was for free, just because they "were clever enough" to buy them first, and didn't think about teething issues.

It's a shame. At one time, their service was quite better than Aeromexico in Y.
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:54 pm

I fley to MEX back in 2015, and I remember seeing so many Interjet flights coming in and out, it was massive. I'm amazed by how the airline hit the dust. I wonder what happened to their planes? The Mexico market will be left with a very large gap.
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Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:14 pm

avi8 wrote:
I fley to MEX back in 2015, and I remember seeing so many Interjet flights coming in and out, it was massive. I'm amazed by how the airline hit the dust. I wonder what happened to their planes? The Mexico market will be left with a very large gap.


All their Airbus aircraft were already returned to lessor/repo'ed. The only thing left flying were some of the SSJ's that were cobbled together by scavenging parts where they could.
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Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:28 pm

Interjet wil go into bankruptcy proceedings next week.

Source (In Spanish): https://www.forbes.com.mx/negocios-inte ... -mercatil/
 
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REDHL wrote:
Interjet wil go into bankruptcy proceedings next week.

Source (In Spanish): https://www.forbes.com.mx/negocios-inte ... -mercatil/

About time...hope the folks losing the jobs can swap over to their competition quickly.
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:28 pm

AWACSooner wrote:
REDHL wrote:
Interjet wil go into bankruptcy proceedings next week.

Source (In Spanish): https://www.forbes.com.mx/negocios-inte ... -mercatil/

About time...hope the folks losing the jobs can swap over to their competition quickly.


According to some articles I've read in the last few weeks, around 80 out of Interjet's 630-pilot workforce have already emigrated to Volaris and VivaAerobus (given the fact that both carriers operate A320 equipment), as well as 40% of its maintenance workforce to Mexicana MRO.
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:43 pm

Owner of Interjet says the Government of Cuba has expressed interest in the SSJ fleet.

https://www.14ymedio.com/economia/Cuba- ... 93645.html
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Owner of Interjet says the Government of Cuba has expressed interest in the SSJ fleet.
https://www.14ymedio.com/economia/Cuba- ... 93645.html


Undoubtedly, a match made in heaven...

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Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:38 pm

Airport handlers and fuel service distributors won $14.9mil judgements against Interjet for non-payment of services between July 2019 and March 2020.

https://expansion.mx/empresas/2021/03/2 ... ntes-en-eu
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Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:06 am

Interjet shareholders voted to approve filing for bankruptcy protection.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... after-vote
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Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:18 pm

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Owner of Interjet says the Government of Cuba has expressed interest in the SSJ fleet.

Well, the caption on this photo indicates that it's a brand-new ATR72-600 for CU so maybe the government could source financing for a few of those Superjets :?:



alfa164 wrote:
Undoubtedly, a match made in heaven...

Whatever misgivings, a deal could be mutually beneficial to both, as there isn't likely a more welcoming airline for the SSJs. Besides, these planes would look good in CU's livery. :cheerful:
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:28 pm

Sorry to see Interjet go. I first flew them around 2016 when they were pretty new on the IAH-MEX route, and the A320's were clean, had lots of legroom and the FA's were pretty nice. Though I flew UA more often, I still continued to fly Interjet up until January of 2020. By that time the flights were almost always late, you had to wait at MEX for sometimes as much as 45 minutes for a gate to be available, and the FA's were no longer friendly. Plus the check in counters at MEX were a disaster.
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:33 pm

Anyone know if their bankruptcy fillings are available online anywhere?

IAHWorldflyer wrote:
Sorry to see Interjet go.


They're still around at the moment; bankruptcy protection rather than ceasing operations.
 
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Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:39 pm

bmibaby737 wrote:
IAHWorldflyer wrote:
Sorry to see Interjet go.


They're still around at the moment; bankruptcy protection rather than ceasing operations.

At this point Interjet hasn’t flown a flight in 4 months. Bankruptcy “protection” is merely just a formality.

This talk about prioritizing payments to workers owed back wages or whatever is just PR to make the airline look better and to try and drum up support for restart- Interjet has no revenue coming in and owns nothing of significant value to sell.
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:49 pm

Whatever happened to the idea about them relaunching as Mexicana 2.0?
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:03 pm

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Whatever happened to the idea about them relaunching as Mexicana 2.0?

A nostalgic peyote hallucination?
 
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Re: Interjet News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu May 06, 2021 4:54 pm

Interjet has hired a restructuring company Argoss Partners to manage it debt of US$1.25 billion as the company seeks to restart operations.

https://www.riviera-maya-news.com/inter ... /2021.html
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