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Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:19 am

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From theaeronetwork : Wizz Air has extended Dubai service to 04JUL21, from Bucharest, Budapest and Sofia*, instead of 13/14APR21, 2 weekly each


Same source :

Wizz Air Abu Dhabi's planned service to Tel Aviv tentatively scheduled from 13APR21 at earliest, initially 5 weekly, increasing to 1 daily from 01MAY21.

Launch date remains pending.

From St. Petersburg, Wizz Air's following service is available for booking in winter 2021/22 season:

* eff 31OCT21 Bologna
* eff 02NOV21 Oslo
* eff 02NOV21 Stockholm Skavsta
*eff 18DEC21 Turin
 
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:10 pm

Wizz Air from Budapest to Beijing
Hungarian FM announced today in Kazakhstan that new flight will be established between BUD-NQZ-BJS and operated by Wizz Air.

Wizz already flies BUD-NQZ-BUD and Air China flies BUD-BJS.
Interesting idea. Totally the opposite what Wizz CEO states about longhaul flights.

source: https://budflyer.blog.hu/
 
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Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:51 pm

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Wizz Air from Budapest to Beijing
Hungarian FM announced today in Kazakhstan that new flight will be established between BUD-NQZ-BJS and operated by Wizz Air.

Wizz already flies BUD-NQZ-BUD and Air China flies BUD-BJS.
Interesting idea. Totally the opposite what Wizz CEO states about longhaul flights.

source: https://budflyer.blog.hu/


I put that through Google Translate and it appears it's not certain Wizzair will be the airline operating those flights. It could be Wizzair, but it could also be a Chinese airline. This is still uncertain.

Here is the translation (by Google Translate):

A new flight can start on the Budapest-Nur Sultan-Beijing line!
Wizz Air can be the operator!

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During his visit to Kazakhstan, Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó made a rather interesting statement about the launch of a flight between Budapest, Nur-Sultan and Beijing, the Kazinform news website reported.

Update: According to a speech at a press conference by Szijjártó, the route may be operated by Wizz Air, which is planning to launch the flight.

Direct flights between Kazakhstan and Hungary will resume during the summer. This was announced by Péter Szijjártó at a briefing held at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Kazakhstan on Tuesday, April 6. The flight between Budapest and Nur Sultan is scheduled to resume in June, the foreign minister said. He also added that the Budapest-Nur Sultan-Beijing flight would be launched. It was not mentioned in the article which airline will operate the flight. In this case, however, Wizz Air could also be considered, which could use the opportunity as a refueling stop and possibly open up to China. Another option is a Chinese airline, which, like the previous Air China flight, would use the city of Nur-Sultan as an intermediate landing during its flight to Budapest.

A direct flight to Beijing from Budapest has not been available since March last year due to the pandemic situation. This flight was previously flown by Air China to Budapest with an interruption at Minsk airport four times a week in summer and three times a week in winter.

As soon as we have received more information about the report, we will contact you with more details!
 
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:29 pm

He admitted later, not in the original post. And its not surprise as the Hungarian Foreign Ministry has bought an A330 which is operated by wizz since december.
would not be a surprise if the flight would get some funds for tourism etc...

as market changes rapidly, it can be a try for wizz. My opinion is it wont work out, as the Air China flight is unpopular as inbounds to BUD it land ins MSQ and u have to disembark at a loonatic airport, thatswhy many people avoid the "direct flight" since its existence. When I flew BUD-PEK i chose PEK-MUC-BUD for the return to avoid MSQ. so good luck on an A321 low cost seating... huge doubts.
 
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Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:09 pm

Wizz Air to launch BNX flights. Starting from June 1st 2021 they will link the capital of the Serbian entity with DTM, BSL, MMX and EIN.

https://www.exyuaviation.com/2021/04/wi ... -luka.html
 
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Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon May 10, 2021 3:47 pm

Wizz Air Abu Dhabi will launch flights to Muscat and Salalah in Oman & Kyiv Boryspil

Source: Wizz Air LinkedIn
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Tue May 11, 2021 5:59 pm

Looks like their Abu Dhabi network is starting to get shape, certainly Muscat and Salalah are clearly "beyond Abu Dhabi". Most of their flights from Abu Dhabi are just to Europe, which is good of course but more flights to Europe don't really add much value. There's hardly any place in Europe from where Abu Dhabi can't be reached one-stop on Wizzair, now it's time to expand the other way.
 
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Wed May 12, 2021 5:16 pm

And they just keep expanding, this time in Italy.

https://www.instagram.com/p/COxmyV6qlNF/

Interesting route is Catania - Abu Dhabi. Route is clearly aimed to compete with Neos which flies Palermo - Abu Dhabi, other than that Sicily is not connected to Abu Dhabi.
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 1:39 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
And they just keep expanding, this time in Italy.

https://www.instagram.com/p/COxmyV6qlNF/

Interesting route is Catania - Abu Dhabi. Route is clearly aimed to compete with Neos which flies Palermo - Abu Dhabi, other than that Sicily is not connected to Abu Dhabi.


Whats with the demand between Southern Italy and Abu Dhabi?
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Thu May 13, 2021 4:48 am

How many of the routes/bases they announced since last year have actually happened? Roughly what percentage of announced flights are operating today?
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 10:22 am

Bari was also announced few days ago.
 
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Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu May 13, 2021 1:25 pm

Heard Wizz closes its GVA operation office and move all positions to Hungary.
Cost cuttings...
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 2:12 pm

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Heard Wizz closes its GVA operation office and move all positions to Hungary.
Cost cuttings...

Why did they have offices there in the first place?

Wizz will base 4 aircraft at FCO and start 32 new routes (only international)

https://italiavola.com/2021/05/13/wizz- ... nazionali/ (In Italian)
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Thu May 13, 2021 2:32 pm

lesfalls wrote:
Why did they have offices there in the first place?

I read that the VIE base was employed via GVA. Supposedly some tax/social security savings.
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 2:34 pm

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Heard Wizz closes its GVA operation office and move all positions to Hungary.
Cost cuttings...


They haven’t been recruiting for Geneva for quite a few months so that doesn’t come as a surprise.
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 2:35 pm

Blerg wrote:
How many of the routes/bases they announced since last year have actually happened? Roughly what percentage of announced flights are operating today?


That’s a great question. The backlog of routes that have not (yet?) materialized must be huge.
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 2:36 pm

Surprised with FCO over CIA, o thought the latter would be cheaper?
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 2:50 pm

lesfalls wrote:
parrotta wrote:
Heard Wizz closes its GVA operation office and move all positions to Hungary.
Cost cuttings...

Why did they have offices there in the first place?

Because of the lucrative swiss tax?
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 3:09 pm

MCTSET wrote:
Surprised with FCO over CIA, o thought the latter would be cheaper?


No doubt they played them out against each other, the airport that offers the lowest fees gets their base.

Wizzair: "Hey Fiumicino, we want to launch a base in Rome but the fees at Ciampino are lower. What are you going to do about it?"

Fiumicino: "We want to offer you fees that are 10% lower than what Ciampino offers if you set up your base here"

Wizzair: "Thank you Fiumicino. Hey Ciampino, did you hear that? Fiumicino is undercutting you by 10%. What are you going to do about it?"

Ciampino: "We want to offer you fees that are 10% lower than the deal you got from Fiumicino if you come to us"

Wizzair: "Thank you Ciampino. Hey Fiumicino, did you hear that? Ciampino is undercutting you by 10%"

Fiumicino: "Okay, we go 10% below them but that's our final offer"

Wizzair: "Thank you Fiumicino. Hey Ciampino, did you hear that?"

Ciampino: "Yes Wizzair, we heard it. Sorry, we can't offer you a better deal. You can set up your base at Fiumicino"

Another factor that might have contributed in their choice is competition. At Ciampino they'd have to compete against Ryanair, which is about the only airline that can undercut Wizzair. At Fiumicino they compete against the higher fare airlines such as Alitalia, that gives them a better relative marketing position. And it means they can distinguish themselves from Ryanair by serving a different airport. Take for example the route to Eindhoven, so far Eindhoven only had service to Rome Ciampino on Ryanair but Fiumicino was unserved from Eindhoven. Now Wizzair will pick up this route, avoiding direct competition with Ryanair.
 
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Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu May 13, 2021 3:10 pm

holczakker wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
parrotta wrote:
Heard Wizz closes its GVA operation office and move all positions to Hungary.
Cost cuttings...

Why did they have offices there in the first place?

Because of the lucrative swiss tax?


But are tax cuts that big? I mean running an office in Geneva must be quite expensive, salaries alone are probably double or triple compared to Hungary.
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 3:40 pm

I thought CIA and FCO are both operated by the same company, Aeroporti di Roma ? Is there really that much opportunity for Wizz to play the 2 airports off against each other ?
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 3:41 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
MCTSET wrote:
Surprised with FCO over CIA, o thought the latter would be cheaper?


No doubt they played them out against each other, the airport that offers the lowest fees gets their base.

Wizzair: "Hey Fiumicino, we want to launch a base in Rome but the fees at Ciampino are lower. What are you going to do about it?"

Fiumicino: "We want to offer you fees that are 10% lower than what Ciampino offers if you set up your base here"

Wizzair: "Thank you Fiumicino. Hey Ciampino, did you hear that? Fiumicino is undercutting you by 10%. What are you going to do about it?"

Ciampino: "We want to offer you fees that are 10% lower than the deal you got from Fiumicino if you come to us"

Wizzair: "Thank you Ciampino. Hey Fiumicino, did you hear that? Ciampino is undercutting you by 10%"

Fiumicino: "Okay, we go 10% below them but that's our final offer"

Wizzair: "Thank you Fiumicino. Hey Ciampino, did you hear that?"

Ciampino: "Yes Wizzair, we heard it. Sorry, we can't offer you a better deal. You can set up your base at Fiumicino"

Another factor that might have contributed in their choice is competition. At Ciampino they'd have to compete against Ryanair, which is about the only airline that can undercut Wizzair. At Fiumicino they compete against the higher fare airlines such as Alitalia, that gives them a better relative marketing position. And it means they can distinguish themselves from Ryanair by serving a different airport. Take for example the route to Eindhoven, so far Eindhoven only had service to Rome Ciampino on Ryanair but Fiumicino was unserved from Eindhoven. Now Wizzair will pick up this route, avoiding direct competition with Ryanair.

CIA is closed for the night, the number of available aircraft stands are limited, have a low category ILS (=screwed even in case of a mild fog) and the traffic is often limited because of military/government movements. Btw the two airports are operated by the same company, they don't care which of their pockets is filled with Wizz's money.
 
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Thu May 13, 2021 3:52 pm

Blerg wrote:
holczakker wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Why did they have offices there in the first place?

Because of the lucrative swiss tax?


But are tax cuts that big? I mean running an office in Geneva must be quite expensive, salaries alone are probably double or triple compared to Hungary.


Quite a difference in favor of the swiss taxation (hefty sum along the years I guess). The "office" is not a lavish one to say the least. The number of staff based there is the minimum to convince the state that the company is controlled from there as it's the requirement to be allowed to pay swiss tax (and not only the corporate one but the income tax of crew members as well).
 
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Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu May 20, 2021 5:44 pm

And again they announced a bunch of new routes:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPGdlZCqUkG/

Interesting is a new destination: Lampedusa. A tiny island in the Mediterranean that is mostly known as the arrival point of illegal immigrants from northern Africa, however other than that it seems to be quite a nice island.

Wizz isn't the only airline starting flights to Lampedusa, quite a number of other airlines seem to have had the same idea. Can this tiny island sustain that much tourism?
 
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Thu May 20, 2021 5:46 pm

holczakker wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
parrotta wrote:
Heard Wizz closes its GVA operation office and move all positions to Hungary.
Cost cuttings...

Why did they have offices there in the first place?

Because of the lucrative swiss tax?


Because that's where the best staff are found, and they have no problems finding other jobs in Geneva. Even scum like Varadi have to admit they need a grade-A ops department.
 
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Thu May 20, 2021 6:57 pm

VSMUT wrote:
holczakker wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Why did they have offices there in the first place?

Because of the lucrative swiss tax?


Because that's where the best staff are found, and they have no problems finding other jobs in Geneva. Even scum like Varadi have to admit they need a grade-A ops department.

It was the tax and nothing else. None of the ops departments were ever moved to Geneva, only some of the commercial ones with close to zero local staff.
 
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Thu May 20, 2021 7:01 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
And again they announced a bunch of new routes:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPGdlZCqUkG/

Interesting is a new destination: Lampedusa. A tiny island in the Mediterranean that is mostly known as the arrival point of illegal immigrants from northern Africa, however other than that it seems to be quite a nice island.

Wizz isn't the only airline starting flights to Lampedusa, quite a number of other airlines seem to have had the same idea. Can this tiny island sustain that much tourism?

Great announcement about flights from a place called Katwoice...
 
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Fri May 28, 2021 5:58 pm

Wizzair will close the OSL base from mid-June - all domestic flights will be discontinued (<20% LF since the beginning!)

The holiday routes (including OSL-CHQ, SPU and LCA from mid-June) were also canceled today.
 
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Fri May 28, 2021 6:04 pm

airberlin2017 wrote:
Wizzair will close the OSL base from mid-June - all domestic flights will be discontinued (<20% LF since the beginning!)

The holiday routes (including OSL-CHQ, SPU and LCA from mid-June) were also canceled today.


Do you have a link here or have they just cancelled their whole program?
 
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Fri May 28, 2021 7:03 pm

Did notice you cannot book domestic in Norway after June 13, with Wizz....
 
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Fri May 28, 2021 11:01 pm

They have faced huge backlash from the media, unions and no-fly-wizzair campaigns, a company that doesn't respect workers' rights and is trying to undermine standard norwegian work ethics where wages, collective agreements are concerned and the right to join unions..So norwegian travellers "stuck" mostly to SAS,Wideroe, were hoping for a DY comeback and now they have Flyr about to start who are norwegian 100% and are going by the book and according to norwegian law..Wizzair can't keep flying empty planes..Question is: will they keep flying to OSL from other bases? or will they concentrate on Sandefjord? It would have been a different story, had Rygge remained open, for both W6 and FR..
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Sat May 29, 2021 11:17 am

Wizz, through they communication director, is confirmning its withdrawal from domestic Norwegian traffic, and closure of their OSL base.

I expect them to continue their routes too OSL from their other bases, which they have flown for a few years and startet before establishing their OSL base
 
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Sun May 30, 2021 7:37 am

Not suspicious at all to close a base in a hurry (on 14th of June with two weeks notification time) while the norwegian authorities announced that they will do a healt & safety audit at Wizz's Oslo base at 16th of June.
 
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Sun May 30, 2021 4:44 pm

Any tips, hints or guesses on what 5W will do next out of AUH?

https://www.thenationalnews.com/busines ... -1.1228067
 
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Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:17 am

Wizz Air Abu Dhabi announces new routes from AUH.

Source: Wizz Air LinkedIn account.
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Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:25 pm

What is the demand from the U.A.E to the following secondary Greek/Italian airports? I really don't understand the following offering how it will work.
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Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:12 pm

Massive tourist demand form the financially better off Arabs for Greek and Italian quality holiday hotspots.
There are five and four different Gulf airlines serving Mykonos and Santorini airports respectively during this summer season.
 
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Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:40 pm

LHAM wrote:
Massive tourist demand form the financially better off Arabs for Greek and Italian quality holiday hotspots.
There are five and four different Gulf airlines serving Mykonos and Santorini airports respectively during this summer season.


Also those airports managed by Fraport (like Mykonos and Santorini) are now fully refreshed. Only a couple of years ago they were total dumps. Maybe that (coupled with some economic incentives) attracts new carriers. The amount of new routes in those Fraport airports this summer is mind-blowing.
 
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Mykonos especially attracts all wealthy middle-easterners every summer..There are places like Nammos beach and club, where parties take place regularly and they spend 100.000euros in a night with gold plated champagne bottles costing thousands of euros ..First row beach sunbeds cost from hundreds to thousands of euros to book with first class service..It's not a myth,it happens every summer in front of our very eyes..It's like a small ibiza with wealthy arabs
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:31 pm

marcogr12 wrote:
Mykonos especially attracts all wealthy middle-easterners every summer..There are places like Nammos beach and club, where parties take place regularly and they spend 100.000euros in a night with gold plated champagne bottles costing thousands of euros ..First row beach sunbeds cost from hundreds to thousands of euros to book with first class service..It's not a myth,it happens every summer in front of our very eyes..It's like a small ibiza with wealthy arabs

And those people are supposed to fly with Wizz on an Y239 A321?
 
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:05 pm

Wizz Air has now so many routes out of AUH.

It seems like the plan in the future will be to liquidate Etihad (or merge it with Emirates at DWC) and make AUH a low-cost hub.
 
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:30 pm

holczakker wrote:
marcogr12 wrote:
Mykonos especially attracts all wealthy middle-easterners every summer..There are places like Nammos beach and club, where parties take place regularly and they spend 100.000euros in a night with gold plated champagne bottles costing thousands of euros ..First row beach sunbeds cost from hundreds to thousands of euros to book with first class service..It's not a myth,it happens every summer in front of our very eyes..It's like a small ibiza with wealthy arabs

And those people are supposed to fly with Wizz on an Y239 A321?


What's the alternative?
They are wealthy but they don't fly First class only, they spend smartly, on the beach :)
 
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:43 pm

A330Inter wrote:
holczakker wrote:
marcogr12 wrote:
Mykonos especially attracts all wealthy middle-easterners every summer..There are places like Nammos beach and club, where parties take place regularly and they spend 100.000euros in a night with gold plated champagne bottles costing thousands of euros ..First row beach sunbeds cost from hundreds to thousands of euros to book with first class service..It's not a myth,it happens every summer in front of our very eyes..It's like a small ibiza with wealthy arabs

And those people are supposed to fly with Wizz on an Y239 A321?


What's the alternative?
They are wealthy but they don't fly First class only, they spend smartly, on the beach :)

Somehow they got to Mykonos before Wizz Abu Dhabi existed, right? I can't image people sitting 4-5 hours on cattle class to be able to spend hundreds of euros on a sunbed. If anyone they like appearances. If you land on seat 35B of a Wizz aircraft the appearance is that you are penniless.
 
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Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:49 am

holczakker wrote:
A330Inter wrote:
holczakker wrote:
And those people are supposed to fly with Wizz on an Y239 A321?


What's the alternative?
They are wealthy but they don't fly First class only, they spend smartly, on the beach :)


Somehow they got to Mykonos before Wizz Abu Dhabi existed, right? I can't image people sitting 4-5 hours on cattle class to be able to spend hundreds of euros on a sunbed. If anyone they like appearances. If you land on seat 35B of a Wizz aircraft the appearance is that you are penniless.


No, they actually want to stay discreet while they exit the country.
These are arabs, going to vacation to get drunk, there's no place for showing off here, they just want to get there.
Indeed, how did they got there before? flew to ATH and then on a low cost from ATH to JMK, there was nothing fancy before, there is no need now.
 
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Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:00 am

A330Inter wrote:
holczakker wrote:
A330Inter wrote:

What's the alternative?
They are wealthy but they don't fly First class only, they spend smartly, on the beach :)


Somehow they got to Mykonos before Wizz Abu Dhabi existed, right? I can't image people sitting 4-5 hours on cattle class to be able to spend hundreds of euros on a sunbed. If anyone they like appearances. If you land on seat 35B of a Wizz aircraft the appearance is that you are penniless.


No, they actually want to stay discreet while they exit the country.
These are arabs, going to vacation to get drunk, there's no place for showing off here, they just want to get there.
Indeed, how did they got there before? flew to ATH and then on a low cost from ATH to JMK, there was nothing fancy before, there is no need now.


How is standing in notoriously long Wizz Air check-in queues in the public area of the airport more discreet that whisking through on the traditional carriers? Alcohol isn't even forbidden in the UAE.

IMO, this is probably aimed more at European, Australian and American expats in the UAE and poorer Emirati citizens, as well as a handful of islanders looking to go somewhere else.
 
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Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:41 am

VSMUT wrote:
Alcohol isn't even forbidden in the UAE.


As you know alcohol is forbidden to muslims.
There's a massive social pressure for them not to drink, or at least not to be seen drinking, it brings shame to the family, etc.
So flying off to Greece, or other leisure places is their way of going around this pressure
 
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Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 am

A330Inter wrote:
holczakker wrote:
A330Inter wrote:

What's the alternative?
They are wealthy but they don't fly First class only, they spend smartly, on the beach :)


Somehow they got to Mykonos before Wizz Abu Dhabi existed, right? I can't image people sitting 4-5 hours on cattle class to be able to spend hundreds of euros on a sunbed. If anyone they like appearances. If you land on seat 35B of a Wizz aircraft the appearance is that you are penniless.


No, they actually want to stay discreet while they exit the country.
These are arabs, going to vacation to get drunk, there's no place for showing off here, they just want to get there.
Indeed, how did they got there before? flew to ATH and then on a low cost from ATH to JMK, there was nothing fancy before, there is no need now.

I'm not buying it. They are showing off all the time and rhen they squeeze in monkey class? Maybe the cheap slaves working there would use Wizz but not the locals
 
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Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:14 am

A330Inter wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
Alcohol isn't even forbidden in the UAE.


As you know alcohol is forbidden to muslims.
There's a massive social pressure for them not to drink, or at least not to be seen drinking, it brings shame to the family, etc.
So flying off to Greece, or other leisure places is their way of going around this pressure


Sorry, still not buying it. For decades they had no issue flying and being seen on Emirates, Qatar, Etihad, Gulf Air, British Airways etc., but now that Wizz Air is flying it is suddenly an issue? Why didn't they just fly Air Arabia, Kuwaiti or Saudia then? Where exactly do you find it potentially shameful to be seen checking in for an Etihad flight? They use general counters nowadays, nobody will know if you are going to Mekka, Athens or Geneva. Even if you get spotted in the boarding queue to Athens it means nothing, because Etihad codeshares with SAS, Aegean, Alitalia and Aer Lingus out of Athens. If anything, flying directly to Mykonos is going to raise more red flags than going via Athens.

Edit: I see that Etihad is actually planning to fly direct to Mykonos, Malaga and Santorini themselves this summer.
 
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Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:02 am

There are plenty of people who will choose to save a bit of cash during a 4.5 hour flight, so as to have a more luxurious time while they are away - eg better hotel. I suspect Etihad with Aegean is going to be significantly more expensive than Wizz - that's money which will go a long way; it's not as if economy in Etihad for a few hours is such a luxurious experience

Edit - just done a dummy booking for Abu Dhabi to Mykonos round trip nonstop in mid July.... Wizz wants 225 USD round trip including bags... Etihad want 1100 USD. I would happily swallow a bit of pride for that kind of money
 
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Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:36 am

JMK and JTR get a dearth of LCCs and Legacies...so not a problem for those who want to splash a bit of cash on biz class
UAE this year send Flydubai, Wizzair, Etihad, Qatar and Gulf Air so far to Mykonos and Santorini...So there are choices for those who want to fly more comfy and in a bit of luxury and try to avoid cattle class of Wizzair
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