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wnflyguy wrote:Well all the WN peeps we're hoping a big afternoon announcement was coming. Well its here...Drum roll ....WN is renaming of the HDQ building after Herb. In addition Herb and Colleen offices were turning into a museum inside HDQ.
Cool nevertheless but A Hawaii expansion announcement would have been cool also.
Flyguy
wnflyguy wrote:AC4500 wrote:Wneast wrote:So instead we will start to see more flights added to the new cities and to existing flights after EUG and Bellingham get added ?
Here are my predictions for BLI/EUG:
BLI:
- 1x daily LAS
- 1x daily DEN
- 1x daily PHX
EUG:
- 2x daily DEN
- 1x daily PHX
- 1x daily LAS
This may be over the top, especially for EUG, as I'm a bit biased as an Oregonian myself. Maybe some of those routes will end up being Saturday-only. Hopefully we'll see what they have planned on April 1st.
I think BLI will be 2 LAS, 1 DEN and 1 OAK.
Because there focuses on Vancouver passengers I wouldn't be surprised if 1 HNL would be in the future plans.
EUG I see 2 OAK, 2 LAS and 1 DEN.
Flyguy
AC4500 wrote:wnflyguy wrote:AC4500 wrote:Here are my predictions for BLI/EUG:
BLI:
- 1x daily LAS
- 1x daily DEN
- 1x daily PHX
EUG:
- 2x daily DEN
- 1x daily PHX
- 1x daily LAS
This may be over the top, especially for EUG, as I'm a bit biased as an Oregonian myself. Maybe some of those routes will end up being Saturday-only. Hopefully we'll see what they have planned on April 1st.
I think BLI will be 2 LAS, 1 DEN and 1 OAK.
Because there focuses on Vancouver passengers I wouldn't be surprised if 1 HNL would be in the future plans.
EUG I see 2 OAK, 2 LAS and 1 DEN.
Flyguy
WN has been pretty keen on going after Allegiant as of late, so I guess more LAS frequencies from BLI/EUG wouldn't surprise me. I thought OAK didn't really perform well for WN to smaller markets, which is why we only see 1x on SBA-OAK. It'll be interesting to see what the network planning team comes up with...
wnflyguy wrote:Well all the WN peeps we're hoping a big afternoon announcement was coming. Well its here...Drum roll ....WN is renaming of the HDQ building after Herb. In addition Herb and Colleen offices were turning into a museum inside HDQ.
Cool nevertheless but A Hawaii expansion announcement would have been cool also.
Flyguy
Wneast wrote:Let’s be honest are they going to announce anything on Thursday since they announced all those routes last week ?
Jshank83 wrote:Wneast wrote:Let’s be honest are they going to announce anything on Thursday since they announced all those routes last week ?
No one here knows. Probably they will but it is anyones guess on what it will be.
evank516 wrote:BMAirbusFan320 wrote:FLLspotter747 wrote:
As a DAB spotter, I can confirm that gate space is NOT an issue. We joke around 24/7 that its a good day when you have 2 gates occupied at the same time.
But yes I definitely see WN giving a crack at DAB, especially with their latest trend on opening service at smaller/secondary airports.
As another DAB spotter, there are no issues with gate space. There is some space where they can use a remote gate, and if they were intersted they could renovate the international terminal. However, there is a run-up area used by some of the flight schools that is relatively close to terminal which could potentially cause some issues.
I didn’t think so either, it’s just what I heard.
4&6 are DL, 3&5 are AA, 2 is CUTE and I guess 1 is totally free. My theory would be WN taking 1 and using 2 for any extra RON overflow.
DeltaRules wrote:evank516 wrote:BMAirbusFan320 wrote:
As another DAB spotter, there are no issues with gate space. There is some space where they can use a remote gate, and if they were intersted they could renovate the international terminal. However, there is a run-up area used by some of the flight schools that is relatively close to terminal which could potentially cause some issues.
I didn’t think so either, it’s just what I heard.
4&6 are DL, 3&5 are AA, 2 is CUTE and I guess 1 is totally free. My theory would be WN taking 1 and using 2 for any extra RON overflow.
I've been going to DAB since 2002 and the only time I've ever seen 1 used was 3M's brief stint there, which has always been curious to me given it's the first gate past TSA and the shortest walk. Surprised DL moved to 6 from 2.
Silver1SWA wrote:wnflyguy wrote:Well all the WN peeps we're hoping a big afternoon announcement was coming. Well its here...Drum roll ....WN is renaming of the HDQ building after Herb. In addition Herb and Colleen offices were turning into a museum inside HDQ.
Cool nevertheless but A Hawaii expansion announcement would have been cool also.
Flyguy
Y’all need to calm down with the expectations. Telling employees to keep an eye on the internal site for a fun announcement doesn’t sound like a major public announcement to me.
737max8 wrote:Silver1SWA wrote:wnflyguy wrote:Well all the WN peeps we're hoping a big afternoon announcement was coming. Well its here...Drum roll ....WN is renaming of the HDQ building after Herb. In addition Herb and Colleen offices were turning into a museum inside HDQ.
Cool nevertheless but A Hawaii expansion announcement would have been cool also.
Flyguy
Y’all need to calm down with the expectations. Telling employees to keep an eye on the internal site for a fun announcement doesn’t sound like a major public announcement to me.
I was promised Iceland or more Hawaii adds but all I got was a renamed building?
But in serious talk, naming HDQ after Herb was the right (and only) thing to do for that building.
bob75013 wrote:
pmanni1 wrote:MLI is the most curious to me. On their Quad Cities airport fb page they're announcing something big and I think it's WN. They're using the same shade of red in the WN heart logo as a teaser. I don't know what else it would be.
joeblow10 wrote:pmanni1 wrote:MLI is the most curious to me. On their Quad Cities airport fb page they're announcing something big and I think it's WN. They're using the same shade of red in the WN heart logo as a teaser. I don't know what else it would be.
People are reaching on that post. Reading it again - sounds more like some big announcement of an airport upgrade or something... it doesn’t even read like a route announcement.
SWADawg wrote:joeblow10 wrote:pmanni1 wrote:MLI is the most curious to me. On their Quad Cities airport fb page they're announcing something big and I think it's WN. They're using the same shade of red in the WN heart logo as a teaser. I don't know what else it would be.
People are reaching on that post. Reading it again - sounds more like some big announcement of an airport upgrade or something... it doesn’t even read like a route announcement.
It sounds like a service announcement to me. I’d say it’s a coin flip as to whether it’s Southwest or not. I can’t see them being that excited over Sun Country or Frontier, but you never know. Having grown up there and working for an Airline servicing that Airport for years, they might be over hyping something that isn’t as earth shattering as Southwest serving the Airport, but you never know. I would think that the route would have already leaked from Southwest by now if they were going to announce that route today. Usually new route announcements come out before the afternoon, so it seems unlikely, but I would love to be proven wrong as I think Southwest would do very well in MLI.
SWADawg wrote:joeblow10 wrote:pmanni1 wrote:MLI is the most curious to me. On their Quad Cities airport fb page they're announcing something big and I think it's WN. They're using the same shade of red in the WN heart logo as a teaser. I don't know what else it would be.
People are reaching on that post. Reading it again - sounds more like some big announcement of an airport upgrade or something... it doesn’t even read like a route announcement.
It sounds like a service announcement to me. I’d say it’s a coin flip as to whether it’s Southwest or not. I can’t see them being that excited over Sun Country or Frontier, but you never know. Having grown up there and working for an Airline servicing that Airport for years, they might be over hyping something that isn’t as earth shattering as Southwest serving the Airport, but you never know. I would think that the route would have already leaked from Southwest by now if they were going to announce that route today. Usually new route announcements come out before the afternoon, so it seems unlikely, but I would love to be proven wrong as I think Southwest would do very well in MLI.
Jshank83 wrote:Here we go.
Quad City International Airport terminal improvement project announcement expected Tuesday
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/q ... NewsSearch
So no new airline.
CIDFlyer wrote:I figured MLI would be terminal related and not service related. If WN were to go anywhere in this area I would think CID would be a better fit and that’s even a stretch but CID has restored all routes whereas MLI still waiting on MSP and DTW to come back. Just looking at FlightAware you can see the difference of how many flights a day CID gets compared to MLI.
CIDFlyer wrote:I figured MLI would be terminal related and not service related. If WN were to go anywhere in this area I would think CID would be a better fit and that’s even a stretch but CID has restored all routes whereas MLI still waiting on MSP and DTW to come back. Just looking at FlightAware you can see the difference of how many flights a day CID gets compared to MLI.
SWADawg wrote:CIDFlyer wrote:I figured MLI would be terminal related and not service related. If WN were to go anywhere in this area I would think CID would be a better fit and that’s even a stretch but CID has restored all routes whereas MLI still waiting on MSP and DTW to come back. Just looking at FlightAware you can see the difference of how many flights a day CID gets compared to MLI.
I disagree. MLI would pull from as far away as Cedar Rapids and Iowa City in Eastern Iowa and as far as Peoria and surrounding areas in West Central Illinois. MLI has a larger overall catchment area from a geographic location than Cedar Rapids or Peoria.
(it's about Pre-Clear, no new routes)Ishrion wrote:Here's the Hawaii announcement
https://www.swamedia.com/releases/relea ... nto-hawaii
SWADawg wrote:CIDFlyer wrote:I figured MLI would be terminal related and not service related. If WN were to go anywhere in this area I would think CID would be a better fit and that’s even a stretch but CID has restored all routes whereas MLI still waiting on MSP and DTW to come back. Just looking at FlightAware you can see the difference of how many flights a day CID gets compared to MLI.
I disagree. MLI would pull from as far away as Cedar Rapids and Iowa City in Eastern Iowa and as far as Peoria and surrounding areas in West Central Illinois. MLI has a larger overall catchment area from a geographic location than Cedar Rapids or Peoria.
Ishrion wrote:Here's the Hawaii announcement
https://www.swamedia.com/releases/relea ... nto-hawaii
wnflyguy wrote:Ishrion wrote:Here's the Hawaii announcement
https://www.swamedia.com/releases/relea ... nto-hawaii
Making this announcement in a since grease the wheels for a Future travel and Growth Announcement.
This is a crafty way of educating the passengers on Covid protocols for Hawaii travel.
Hawaii growth is coming and traditionally WN gives about a 3 month window from Sale to Fly on new markets.
The original Hawaii service was such a short window of Sale to Fly because the rolling Government shutdown stalled the ETOPS certification process.
This time if WN intends to expand Hawaii service as part of its 50th anniversary month of June.
Then April 1 schedule release could easily include new Hawaii MAX8 flying. Because April 1 to whatever June launch date is enough time to achieve MAX8 Etops certification.
Flyguy
airportugal310 wrote:Southwest is literally the LAST airline to the party when it comes to pre-clearing passengers to Hawaii. Everyone else has been doing it for over a month now...
airportugal310 wrote:Southwest is literally the LAST airline to the party when it comes to pre-clearing passengers to Hawaii. Everyone else has been doing it for over a month now...
wnflyguy wrote:airportugal310 wrote:Southwest is literally the LAST airline to the party when it comes to pre-clearing passengers to Hawaii. Everyone else has been doing it for over a month now...
Yes that is True BUT and it's a big BUT.
Hawaii was essentially closed for quite some time to Mainland tourists because of the Covid lockout so there really wasn't a need or a mad Rush to be the first in this process.
Now that Hawaii has reopened for the most part.
So WN is now in line with everyone else during the spring break rebound.
Flyguy
Wneast wrote:Anybody know what time we could see new flights being loaded in for the schedule extension tonight ?
Wneast wrote:Anybody know what time we could see new flights being loaded in for the schedule extension tonight ?
wnflyguy wrote:Wneast wrote:Anybody know what time we could see new flights being loaded in for the schedule extension tonight ?
The Bulk of the base schedule usually starts to load at 05:00 HERB.
Sometimes Additional flights are left out until later for Special reason like it's own announcement.
Flyguy
Wneast wrote:wnflyguy wrote:Wneast wrote:Anybody know what time we could see new flights being loaded in for the schedule extension tonight ?
The Bulk of the base schedule usually starts to load at 05:00 HERB.
Sometimes Additional flights are left out until later for Special reason like it's own announcement.
Flyguy
Would Hawaii be it’s own anouncement ?
wnflyguy wrote:So far it looks as if WN just extended the current August base schedule only to November 6.
MJT and HDN look to have shifted to year round destinations now.
Not seeing anything else new.
Heck I'm not seeing any MAX8 aircraft In the schedule at all.
I will say that it definitely looks like some pending additions are coming because a lot of the cities flight schedules are looking like a bad Tetris game gone mad with Huge imbalances with aircraft flows.
Whomp whomp!
Flyguy
wnflyguy wrote:So far it looks as if WN just extended the current August base schedule only to November 6.
MJT and HDN look to have shifted to year round destinations now.
Not seeing anything else new.
Heck I'm not seeing any MAX8 aircraft In the schedule at all.
I will say that it definitely looks like some pending additions are coming because a lot of the cities flight schedules are looking like a bad Tetris game gone mad with Huge imbalances with aircraft flows.
Whomp whomp!
Flyguy
SteveXC500 wrote:wnflyguy wrote:So far it looks as if WN just extended the current August base schedule only to November 6.
MJT and HDN look to have shifted to year round destinations now.
Not seeing anything else new.
Heck I'm not seeing any MAX8 aircraft In the schedule at all.
I will say that it definitely looks like some pending additions are coming because a lot of the cities flight schedules are looking like a bad Tetris game gone mad with Huge imbalances with aircraft flows.
Whomp whomp!
Flyguy
Either a glitch or April Fools. As of just before 0700 CT, I see no extension yet
wnflyguy wrote:[photoid][/photoid]SteveXC500 wrote:wnflyguy wrote:So far it looks as if WN just extended the current August base schedule only to November 6.
MJT and HDN look to have shifted to year round destinations now.
Not seeing anything else new.
Heck I'm not seeing any MAX8 aircraft In the schedule at all.
I will say that it definitely looks like some pending additions are coming because a lot of the cities flight schedules are looking like a bad Tetris game gone mad with Huge imbalances with aircraft flows.
Whomp whomp!
Flyguy
Either a glitch or April Fools. As of just before 0700 CT, I see no extension yet
I was using Google and Southwest.com comparing July 21,2021 schedules with October 21,2021.
Some markets especially on Saturdays don't match up. For instance Sunday thru Friday some cities will have 2 nightly RON aircraft and 2 morning Originating aircraft . But on Saturday there's a random 3 or 4 originating aircraft.
Flyguy
av8tiongeek wrote:Where do you find the extension most of the time?