Delta Fleet Thread - 2021

n515cr · Tue May 04, 2021 8:22 pm

777Mech wrote:
SXDFC wrote:
Recently I flew on N901DN, one of the last batch of brand new -900ERs for Delta. I noticed that this particular plane, along with N903DN didn’t have any Scimitar Winglets. Is there any reason behind this?

There are I believe 7 -900s that do not have SSWs. The cut in for SSWs was N832DN, and there are 2 that below that cutoff that haven't gotten them.

In the case of the other 5 later models like you flew, there was a supplier issue that caused these ships to not receive them. These are aftermarket winglets, so they are installed after delivery. The plan is to eventually retrofit these frames with them later on this year.

I've got 8: 3828, 3830, and 3901-06 (unless any of these got the mod recently).

n515cr wrote:
Today:
764 1808 to exit CAN to ICN: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n832mh
76Z 1601 to ferry to MCI (believe this is the last of 763 mx work for a while): https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n169dz

Tomorrow:
753 5807 to exit QRO to ATL: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n587nw

Watching/Other
1708 PS mod exit
668 RTS
1001 RTS. Maybe waiting on STC paperwork?
1018 2nd flight 5/3
3411 1st flight 5/3

Today:
753 5807 to exit QRO to ATL: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n587nw

Tomorrow:
1808 to depart ICN for SEA and then MSP: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n832mh
1020 delivery flight BFM-MSP: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n120dn

Thursday:
3840 exit QRO-ATL: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N840DN
3900 exit QRO-ATL: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N900DU
1001 had previously shown scheduled flights for Thurs but those now appear cancelled.

xwb777 · Tue May 04, 2021 9:18 pm

Delta A350 (N507DN) is currently enroute from DWC to FRA as DL8823. Any idea what is the purpose of the flight?

Is it carrying USA Dubai Expo 2020 entourage? The participating countries had their final meeting before the official launch on October 01.

Favre4 · Wed May 05, 2021 12:29 am

xwb777 wrote:
Delta A350 (N507DN) is currently enroute from DWC to FRA as DL8823. Any idea what is the purpose of the flight?

Is it carrying USA Dubai Expo 2020 entourage? The participating countries had their final meeting before the official launch on October 01.

Military Flight

Camber 521 Callsign

777Mech · Wed May 05, 2021 12:50 am

xwb777 wrote:
Delta A350 (N507DN) is currently enroute from DWC to FRA as DL8823. Any idea what is the purpose of the flight?

Is it carrying USA Dubai Expo 2020 entourage? The participating countries had their final meeting before the official launch on October 01.

Cargo flight.

jbs2886 · Wed May 05, 2021 2:05 am

Favre4 wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Delta A350 (N507DN) is currently enroute from DWC to FRA as DL8823. Any idea what is the purpose of the flight?

Is it carrying USA Dubai Expo 2020 entourage? The participating countries had their final meeting before the official launch on October 01.

Military Flight

Camber 521 Callsign

777Mech wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Delta A350 (N507DN) is currently enroute from DWC to FRA as DL8823. Any idea what is the purpose of the flight?

Is it carrying USA Dubai Expo 2020 entourage? The participating countries had their final meeting before the official launch on October 01.

Cargo flight.

Hmm, who is guessing? Lol.

Favre4 · Wed May 05, 2021 2:15 am

777Mech wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Delta A350 (N507DN) is currently enroute from DWC to FRA as DL8823. Any idea what is the purpose of the flight?

Is it carrying USA Dubai Expo 2020 entourage? The participating countries had their final meeting before the official launch on October 01.

Cargo flight.

Took Troops from KBIF to Kuwait

Now working way back to USA

panamair · Wed May 05, 2021 10:35 am

I believe the 8000 series flight numbers are usually military or other charters while cargo-only flights are usually the 3000 series flight numbers.

bigbird · Wed May 05, 2021 1:10 pm

When is A321 ship#1009 scheduled to be delivered? It has been sitting in Toulouse for over a year.

n515cr · Wed May 05, 2021 1:43 pm

Today:
1020 delivery flight BFM-MSP: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n120dn
1808 to depart SEA-MSP: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n832mh
753 5807 to exit QRO to ATL: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n587nw

Tomorrow:
3843 and 3844 to enter QRO: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n843dn / https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n844dn
3840 exit QRO-ATL and RTS Friday: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n840dn
3900 exit QRO-ATL and RTS Friday: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N900DU

Friday:
1018 delivery flight: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N118DY

Watching/Other
1708 PS mod exit
668 RTS
1001 had previously shown scheduled flights for Thurs but those now appear cancelled.

bigbird · Wed May 05, 2021 3:52 pm

What are the construction numbers and registrations of the remaining to be delivered A321ceo, fleet # 1023 and up?

777Mech · Wed May 05, 2021 4:16 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
Favre4 wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Delta A350 (N507DN) is currently enroute from DWC to FRA as DL8823. Any idea what is the purpose of the flight?

Is it carrying USA Dubai Expo 2020 entourage? The participating countries had their final meeting before the official launch on October 01.

Military Flight

Camber 521 Callsign

777Mech wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Delta A350 (N507DN) is currently enroute from DWC to FRA as DL8823. Any idea what is the purpose of the flight?

Is it carrying USA Dubai Expo 2020 entourage? The participating countries had their final meeting before the official launch on October 01.

Cargo flight.

Hmm, who is guessing? Lol.

It was a MAC charter on the way over, and it is was carrying cargo from FRA on the way back instead of just ferrying empty.

audidudi · Wed May 05, 2021 5:31 pm

bigbird wrote:
When is A321 ship#1009 scheduled to be delivered? It has been sitting in Toulouse for over a year.

Good question...she was actually first spotted on 14 September 2020, but hasn't had any recorded movements since!

https://aibfamily.flights/A320/9588

audidudi · Wed May 05, 2021 5:44 pm

bigbird wrote:
What are the construction numbers and registrations of the remaining to be delivered A321ceo, fleet # 1023 and up?

These are the remaining ceos to be delivered this year:
#1009 MSN 9588 N109DN
#1018 MSN 10140 N118DY...scheduled delivery on 7 May
#1021 MSN 10233 N121DZ
#1023 MSN 10234 N123DW
#1024 MSN 10251 N124DX
#1025 MSN 10252 N125DN
#1026 MSN 10297 N126DN
#1027 MSN 10236 N127DN
#1028 MSN 10300 N128DN
#1029 MSN 10315 N129DN
#xxxx MSN 10437 Nxxxxx...first neo... scheduled delivery in 2022.

FlyingHonu001 · Wed May 05, 2021 6:30 pm

Here at AMS the daily 359's are very much missed, any word they will be coming back soon?

Weatherwatcher1 · Wed May 05, 2021 7:07 pm

res77W wrote:
I did a quick search on Planespotters.net: https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines. Outside of the charter jets, it looks like there's a handful of 757-200s without winglets.

Ships 668, 671, 673, 674, 675, 676, 678, 679, 680, 681, 682, 683, 684, 697, 698, and 6716 are all sans winglets in regular passenger service.

As for your question, IIRC there was something about wing strengthening I read about that negated the benefit of winglets. I could be wrong. Hope this helps somewhat.

-Rowen

Interesting. Delta has a number of 757 configurations, so I’m not surprised the benefits of winglets aren’t the same

n515cr · Wed May 05, 2021 8:58 pm

n515cr wrote:
Today:
1020 delivery flight BFM-MSP: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n120dn
1808 to depart SEA-MSP: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n832mh
753 5807 to exit QRO to ATL: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n587nw
1023 first flight @ BFM

Tomorrow:
3843 and 3844 to enter QRO: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n843dn / https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n844dn
3840 exit QRO-ATL and RTS Friday: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n840dn
3900 exit QRO-ATL and RTS Friday: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N900DU
9577 (717 N921AT) exit BHM tomorrow. RTS TBD: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n921at
698 ferry to QRO: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n698dl

Friday:
1018 delivery flight: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N118DY

Watching/Other
1708 PS mod exit
668 RTS
1001 had previously shown scheduled flights for Thurs but those now appear cancelled.

Adding 1023, 9577, 698 to the list above

N649DL · Thu May 06, 2021 6:14 am

Yeah they're out there. DL reconfigured them completely, and some which got taken out of storage got straight up new interiors but no winglets. Some are for the Sports Charter Configurations but they have some more Domestic Birds which fly with no winglets and reconfigured so you wouldn't notice. I think it's because they were planning on dumping some of the 1988-1990 frames and decided to keep them around but I really don't know if that's entirely sure. I know N569DL (Sky Team Livery with Winglets) from 1990 was planning on being retired and then didn't, I think? Either way, I love it despite the fact it takes so much time to get in and out of them because they crammed so many people on the Domestic 757s in the newer configuration.

InnsbruckFlyer · Thu May 06, 2021 7:19 am

Interestingly, the winglet-less 757s have the retrofitted, BSI-style interiors. Jeb Brooks posted a video recently of one such aircraft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdaYSYIOAbY

n515cr · Thu May 06, 2021 12:54 pm

5807 RTS: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n587nw
3844 and 3900 pushed to tomorrow
668 RTS 5/8: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n668dn

bigbird · Thu May 06, 2021 1:23 pm

Are all of the remaining A321ceo future deliveries other than 1009 going to be be Mobile built frames?

dalmit · Thu May 06, 2021 2:48 pm

What is happening with the retired 737-700s? I see where N301DQ, N303DQ, and N304DQ are listed as "REPORTED SALE" on faa.gov.

Favre4 · Thu May 06, 2021 3:25 pm

dalmit wrote:
What is happening with the retired 737-700s? I see where N301DQ, N303DQ, and N304DQ are listed as "REPORTED SALE" on faa.gov.

AVELO

audidudi · Thu May 06, 2021 3:49 pm

bigbird wrote:
Are all of the remaining A321ceo future deliveries other than 1009 going to be be Mobile built frames?

Yes.

audidudi · Thu May 06, 2021 3:53 pm

1001, N101DQ, has three test flights scheduled for tomorrow: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n101dq

n515cr · Thu May 06, 2021 4:34 pm

Updating the list as things have moved around a bit...

Tomorrow:
1001 doing another test circuit. Service entry unknown: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N101DQ
3840 RTS: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n840dn
1018 delivery flight: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N118DY
3844 to enter QRO: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n844dn
9575 (N924AT) to exit BHM. RTS TBD: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n924at. This leaves one 717 parked at BHM and one at VCV. Active total will be up to 48.
3900 exit QRO-ATL and RTS Saturday: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N900DU

Saturday:
668 RTS 5/8: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n668dn

Other:
1808 RTS
1708 PS mod exit
3008 RTS

MO11 · Thu May 06, 2021 4:45 pm

dalmit wrote:
What is happening with the retired 737-700s? I see where N301DQ, N303DQ, and N304DQ are listed as "REPORTED SALE" on faa.gov.

Sold to Delta Material Services, which usually means the last roundup.

The 777-232LRs were all sold. Who bought them?

777Mech · Thu May 06, 2021 5:14 pm

MO11 wrote:
dalmit wrote:
What is happening with the retired 737-700s? I see where N301DQ, N303DQ, and N304DQ are listed as "REPORTED SALE" on faa.gov.

Sold to Delta Material Services, which usually means the last roundup.

The 777-232LRs were all sold. Who bought them?

Some entity called Mammoth, I'm not sure who they are. I believe they bought some of the ERs as well.

DL_Mech · Thu May 06, 2021 8:27 pm

MO11 wrote:
dalmit wrote:
What is happening with the retired 737-700s? I see where N301DQ, N303DQ, and N304DQ are listed as "REPORTED SALE" on faa.gov.

Sold to Delta Material Services, which usually means the last roundup.

Glad to see that they remembered what happened when they traded in the original DL DC-9s for MD-11s (Valujet). How many of the ex-NW DC-9s ever flew for another operator?

n515cr · Thu May 06, 2021 9:13 pm

1016 to ferry MSP-ATL post induction. I wonder if that's for ViaSat?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n116dn

Dalmd88 · Thu May 06, 2021 9:38 pm

Some of the non winglet 757 are not approved for winglets.

Structural repairs to the wing skin or interior can make the plane not approved for the mod. The winglet adds a lot of load to the wing. Yes, there is a lot of modification that takes place inside the wing as part of the package, but sometimes there is no economical way to overcome prior work. For the NBA fleet the new owners of the planes didn't want the winglets so they were removed and installed on other planes in the fleet.

DeltaRules · Thu May 06, 2021 11:50 pm

N649DL wrote:
Yeah they're out there. DL reconfigured them completely, and some which got taken out of storage got straight up new interiors but no winglets. Some are for the Sports Charter Configurations but they have some more Domestic Birds which fly with no winglets and reconfigured so you wouldn't notice. I think it's because they were planning on dumping some of the 1988-1990 frames and decided to keep them around but I really don't know if that's entirely sure. I know N569DL (Sky Team Livery with Winglets) from 1990 was planning on being retired and then didn't, I think? Either way, I love it despite the fact it takes so much time to get in and out of them because they crammed so many people on the Domestic 757s in the newer configuration.

They were originally only going to keep 684 and up (among DL deliveries) before fuel dropped and they kept into the 670 range before deciding to keep a few more (658, 659, and a couple 660s).

N649DL · Fri May 07, 2021 4:06 am

DeltaRules wrote:
N649DL wrote:
Yeah they're out there. DL reconfigured them completely, and some which got taken out of storage got straight up new interiors but no winglets. Some are for the Sports Charter Configurations but they have some more Domestic Birds which fly with no winglets and reconfigured so you wouldn't notice. I think it's because they were planning on dumping some of the 1988-1990 frames and decided to keep them around but I really don't know if that's entirely sure. I know N569DL (Sky Team Livery with Winglets) from 1990 was planning on being retired and then didn't, I think? Either way, I love it despite the fact it takes so much time to get in and out of them because they crammed so many people on the Domestic 757s in the newer configuration.

They were originally only going to keep 684 and up (among DL deliveries) before fuel dropped and they kept into the 670 range before deciding to keep a few more (658, 659, and a couple 660s).

I see. That's what I thought.

Keep in mind, the DL 757s in Charter configuration took over for the NW 319s in the same configurations which got switched out for regular flying. So there isn't a need for them to have Winglets.

Zidane · Fri May 07, 2021 5:27 am

It's fascinating how flexible this jet is at DL. Have any been fitted with the LCD avionics retrofit?

PSU.DTW.SCE · Fri May 07, 2021 5:42 am

The reason why certain 752s have not been fitted with winglets falls into a couple of categories / reasons:

1) Some were not fitted, due to the ROI of the cost of installation and payback period changed as the price of fuel dropped 5-6 years ago
2) A few have wing structure repairs that would not enable them to be fitted with the winglets
3) A sub-set of older frames were originally slated for retirement; but DL decided in 2016/17 to retire 10 of the early build A320s and retain 10 early build 757s instead
4) NBA charter fleet that are low utilization frames do not need them

n515cr · Fri May 07, 2021 8:09 pm

n515cr wrote:
1016 to ferry MSP-ATL post induction. I wonder if that's for ViaSat?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n116dn

Disregard that; showing revenue flights on Sunday.

Tomorrow:
3900 RTS: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N900DU
668 RTS: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n668dn
3356 exit SAL: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N856NW

Watching:
1808 RTS
3008 RTS
9575 RTS
9577 RTS
1001 Mod completion / RTS (finishing another test circuit now)
1708 Mod exit

res77W · Fri May 07, 2021 8:46 pm

Any pics of 1001? Assuming it now has a wifi dome that looks similar to the ones on AA A321s?

-Rowen

2nd2none · Fri May 07, 2021 8:59 pm

The mystery still not answered yet is ship # 1009? https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... nes/epwy6x

777Mech · Sat May 08, 2021 12:03 am

2nd2none wrote:
The mystery still not answered yet is ship # 1009? https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... nes/epwy6x

Early June delivery.

n515cr · Sun May 09, 2021 2:47 am

668 RTS punted to tomorrow: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n668dn

777Mech · Sun May 09, 2021 3:30 am

res77W wrote:
Any pics of 1001? Assuming it now has a wifi dome that looks similar to the ones on AA A321s?

-Rowen

I don't have any pics of 1001, but I have seen it in the flesh. It looks just like the AA 321s, although it looks to me like DL's dome is a bit further forward than AA's.

You will be able to tell the difference in an IFC versus Gogo A321, as the IFC "hump" is substantially taller the Gogo dome, albeit in a smaller footprint.

n515cr · Sun May 09, 2021 7:09 pm

3356 RTS today: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n856nw
668 punted again to tomorrow: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n668dn
674 enter VQQ tomorrow: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n674dl
676 enter VQQ tomorrow: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n676dl
6710 exit VQQ tomorrow and RTS: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n6710e
1701 exit MCI today and RTS tomorrow https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N171DZ
3244 exit SAL on Tuesday: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n344nw

n515cr · Mon May 10, 2021 1:08 pm

674 no longer going to VQQ, just 676.

audidudi · Mon May 10, 2021 5:16 pm

1001 is now scheduled for its first revenue flight post-ViaSat installation: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N101DQ

n515cr · Tue May 11, 2021 1:26 pm

3244 punted to tomorrow: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N344NW
75D 694 may be going to VQQ today, seeing some extra flights: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n694dl
75C 663 showing ferry MIA-QRO tomorrow: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n663dn

n515cr · Tue May 11, 2021 8:35 pm

n515cr wrote:
3244 punted to tomorrow: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N344NW
75D 694 may be going to VQQ today, seeing some extra flights: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n694dl
75C 663 showing ferry MIA-QRO tomorrow: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n663dn

Negative on 694
1001 to RTS tomorrow morning: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n101dq
3313 seems to be prepping for MZJ exit. Believe it will be the PS mod prototype: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n813nw

n515cr · Wed May 12, 2021 1:25 pm

1001 in the air! Expect 321 mod lines to begin soon.

Today:
663 MIA-QRO
3244 exit SAL and RTS
Another 717 exiting BHM: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9936. Must be 9525 (N966AT) as it's the only non-retired 717 there.

Tomorrow:
DL9960 appears to be 8813, MZJ-SAL. Should be the PS mod prototype for 333s. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KMZJ/MSLP. It's also the last 333 stored at MZJ.

DL717 · Wed May 12, 2021 2:57 pm

audidudi wrote:
bigbird wrote:
When is A321 ship#1009 scheduled to be delivered? It has been sitting in Toulouse for over a year.

Good question...she was actually first spotted on 14 September 2020, but hasn't had any recorded movements since!

https://aibfamily.flights/A320/9588

I smell a future Hangar Queen. :lol:

Probably found something wrong with it in production.

n515cr · Wed May 12, 2021 3:05 pm

n515cr wrote:
1001 in the air! Expect 321 mod lines to begin soon.

Today:
663 MIA-QRO
3244 exit SAL and RTS
Another 717 exiting BHM: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9936. Must be 9525 (N966AT) as it's the only non-retired 717 there.

Tomorrow:
DL9960 appears to be 8813, MZJ-SAL. Should be the PS mod prototype for 333s. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KMZJ/MSLP. It's also the last 333 stored at MZJ.

9961 tomorrow looks to be 3304 exiting SAL: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/dl9961

Boeing757100 · Wed May 12, 2021 3:37 pm

This may or may not be relevant, but any idea if anyone will buy up the remaining ex-DL/NW 744s?

n515cr · Wed May 12, 2021 9:25 pm

674 did indeed enter VQQ yesterday: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n674dl
698 exiting QRO this afternoon after a rather short visit and RTS tonight: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n698dl. Maybe it was a random thing and not a scheduled check?

Tomorrow:
Seeing a 738 ATL-QRO tomorrow morning, tail TBD: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KATL/MMQT. Perhaps an exit looming for 3719, which has been there since March 5th?
3304 exit SAL-ATL: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n804nw
3313 enter SAL from MZJ, PS mods: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n813nw

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