tphuang wrote:

airbazar wrote:

And then we have this, the clearest sign yet that things are getting back to normal and all those "weird" routes added during the Pandemic were just temporary.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/jetblue-m ... oute-cuts/

Well, at least domestically.

The clearest sign for me was when JetBlue announced it will start flying to ORH again.

I'm not expecting to see much normalcy in international traffic until the U.S. government removes the requirement for a negative test for fully vaccinated passengers and allows foreign visitors back into the country for non-essential visits. The additions we are seeing right now are similar to the ones we saw last Summer. They are targeted towards dual citizens who want to go visit friends and relatives abroad and are willing to pay the 100+ Euros required to get a Covid test in Europe, prior to returning.

Lufthansa, I see, has scheduled 744 BOS-FRA flights this winter, which is super exciting. I’ll need to get to TLV this December, so this might be something interesting to try. I thought, however, that LH said their 744s were gone for good. Anyone know what actually will happen?

acavpics wrote:

chrisnh wrote:

Cathay will return to Boston with the A350-1000 in August, but days of operation are quite sparse.

I would really like to see how the demand into HKG will be not only as a result of the pandemic but also the political situation in HK.

Seems like a P-I-T-A to get in even if fully vaccinated. I visited in 2019 and pretty much just walked into Hong Kong after a quick passport check.

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_US/ ... tions.html

notgranola wrote:

Lufthansa, I see, has scheduled 744 BOS-FRA flights this winter, which is super exciting. I’ll need to get to TLV this December, so this might be something interesting to try. I thought, however, that LH said their 744s were gone for good. Anyone know what actually will happen?

The 744's are as good as gone but the 748's are staying.
This Winter is still a long way away by Pandemic standards so what you're seeing could be just a placeholder.

BOS May-2021 numbers are out:

May-2021 total pax: 1,744,185
May-2020 total pax: 203,328

YTD total pax: 5,712,919
YTD total pax: 7,764,279

Detailed stats:

Domestic May-21 May-20
Domestic Charter Passenger 1,589 4
Domestic Commuter Passenger 145,500 15,252
Domestic Jet Passenger 1,446,171 179,622
Total Domestic 1,593,260 194,878

International
Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbean 94,220 3,110
Canada - 157
Central America 4,911 -
Europe 30,127 2,949
Middle East 12,819 -
South America - -
Trans-Pacific 2,298 -
Australia - -
North Africa - -
Other International - -
Total International Passengers 144,375 6,216

General Aviation 6,550 2,234

Total Airport passengers 1,744,185 203,328

Here were the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of BOS in April 2021:
BNA-BOS - 13185 passengers, 16668 seats, 79.10% load factor
BOS-BWI - 32351 passengers, 40717 seats, 79.45% load factor
BOS-DEN - 10885 passengers, 12946 seats, 84.08% load factor
BOS-FLL - 991 passengers, 1336 seats, 74.18% load factor
BOS-MCO - 2176 passengers, 2559 seats, 85.03% load factor
BOS-MDW - 16932 passengers, 19592 seats, 86.42% load factor
BOS-STL - 7789 passengers, 9732 seats, 80.03% load factor

New route schedules from B6 announced

From Oct 31
BOS - SAT Flight #2209 - 10:20 a.m. – 2:13 p.m.
SAT - BOS Flight #22010 - 3:00 p.m. – 7:45 pm

From Mar 22
BOS - MCI Flight #2363 - 7:00 a.m. – 9:34 a.m.
MCI - BOS Flight #2364 - 6:40 p.m. – 10:31 pm

BOS - MKE Flight #2229 - 8:00 a.m. – 9:50 a.m.
MKE - BOS Flight #2230 - 5:30 p.m. – 8:53 p.m

Any news about Hainan at BOS? Or perhaps CA?

Dieuwer wrote:

Any news about Hainan at BOS? Or perhaps CA?

No news about Hainan yet, but Cathay returns next month, August 8th, with the A350-1000

Cathay is a great return, really happy to see them back.

The international lineup isn’t too bad anymore. AF, KL, BA, LH, LX, IB, QR, EK, TK and FI all running at varying degrees of reduced to regular service. A far cry from last August where I think it was pretty much just AF, FI, LH and BA.

I believe SAS is also returning at some point this autumn.

Now if only they’d actually open some of the food options in the terminal…

Also if you haven’t been to Logan in awhile…take a drive past E. I recently heard that the expansion is already one of the biggest structures on the airfield.

FGITD wrote:

Cathay is a great return, really happy to see them back.

The international lineup isn’t too bad anymore. AF, KL, BA, LH, LX, IB, QR, EK, TK and FI all running at varying degrees of reduced to regular service. A far cry from last August where I think it was pretty much just AF, FI, LH and BA.

I believe SAS is also returning at some point this autumn.

Now if only they’d actually open some of the food options in the terminal…

Also if you haven’t been to Logan in awhile…take a drive past E. I recently heard that the expansion is already one of the biggest structures on the airfield.

SAS is indeed coming back in September - https://simpleflying.com/sas-expands-us ... 1lr-debut/
LEVEL is back in November - as of now that could change with the variants here or in Catalonia.


For International carriers add KE, JL, CM, VS, TP, S4, and EI. EI and TP seems to be getting good use of A321LR too.

The better questions is who has not announced plans to come back? PD plays cat and mouse. WS? HU? AT officially cancelled. DY went bust.

I actually cannot believe we got both KE and JL back...

adamh8297 wrote:

The better questions is who has not announced plans to come back?

The better question is, will all of these airlines continue to operate thru the Winter or will they suspend operations?
The Biden administration has shown no signs of lifting the international travel restrictions. Foreign residents still can't travel here, not even people on work visas currently in the U.S. would be allowed to re-enter the country, making business travel nearly impossible for anyone without a U.S. passport or GC. And of course, a lot of companies are still restricting business travel.

I wonder how this will impact the student population in Boston for the coming semester. If students form Asia and Europe on a visa are still banned form entering the US, I assume it will be rather quiet all around. And I think this will hurt CX a lot.

I was at BOS last night, picking up Mrs VS on a DL flight from SEA (which arrived 1/2 an hour EARLY at 11.30pm I have you know), parked at the cell phone lot, but got to see the new Terminal E structure as I drove round the airport to get to it. I am going to agree with FGIT, that structure is a monster, goes all the way around from the original Terminal E building, past the end of the said cell phone lot. It's impressive even as it being constructed. When it's finished, assuming they don't screw it up, first it's going to be enormous and secondly going to be highly impressive to look at.

It's nice to see things returning to busier times. To me with my recent trip BOS-SEA-PDX-SLC-BOS, it's a decent balance.

BOS - busy, but not insane
SEA - zoo
PDX - quiet
SLC - 50% zoo

airbazar wrote:

adamh8297 wrote:

The better questions is who has not announced plans to come back?

The better question is, will all of these airlines continue to operate thru the Winter or will they suspend operations?
The Biden administration has shown no signs of lifting the international travel restrictions. Foreign residents still can't travel here, not even people on work visas currently in the U.S. would be allowed to re-enter the country, making business travel nearly impossible for anyone without a U.S. passport or GC. And of course, a lot of companies are still restricting business travel.

There was an article just yesterday (linked)
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronav ... story.html

Basically saying the UK is going to open it's borders to US travelers who are fully vaccinated next week, so that's going to help outbound traffic at least, I don't think they would have done that without some kind of head nod from the US Government that things might change at our end too (although nothing has been announced, so the original point above is still very valid)

Even with the Delta Variant, I think we are closer to restriction lifting than we might think. Absolutely some airlines on the thinner routes will suspend and will cut already limited schedules, but I have a feeling it's going to be slightly better than we fear.

Personally, I think the opening of UK borders is not much to write home about. Sure, they dropped the quarantine requirement but you still need to be tested before departure AND on arrival and await your result. They might not call it "quarantine" but if it quacks like a duck and swims like a duck it is a duck.

Airlines that have not resumed BOS: Alitalia, El Al, Hainan, LATAM, Level, Porter, SAS (resumes in September), and Westjet

Don't see Alitalia or Hainan returning anytime soon given their financial situations, I think El AL, Level, and LATAM will come back next summer. Porter will be back assuming they survive. Westjet is kind of a wild card, with DL launching BOS-YYZ the need for them to serve BOS has kind of diminished. Be nice if they decide to re-launch YYC next summer.

aaflyer777 wrote:

Airlines that have not resumed BOS: Alitalia, El Al, Hainan, LATAM, Level, Porter, SAS (resumes in September), and Westjet

Don't see Alitalia or Hainan returning anytime soon given their financial situations, I think El AL, Level, and LATAM will come back next summer. Porter will be back assuming they survive. Westjet is kind of a wild card, with DL launching BOS-YYZ the need for them to serve BOS has kind of diminished. Be nice if they decide to re-launch YYC next summer.

Certain airlines have very much “moved out” of Logan. RAM, El Al and AZ for example. AZ less so, but the others have no equipment left here, offices vacated, and so on. Not necessarily a sign they’re gone forever, but none of the airlines that have stayed/returned have been much of a surprise based on what they still had in BOS.

Will be interesting to see how AZ plays out in Boston, given their relaunch situation.

VS4ever wrote:

airbazar wrote:

adamh8297 wrote:

The better questions is who has not announced plans to come back?

The better question is, will all of these airlines continue to operate thru the Winter or will they suspend operations?
The Biden administration has shown no signs of lifting the international travel restrictions. Foreign residents still can't travel here, not even people on work visas currently in the U.S. would be allowed to re-enter the country, making business travel nearly impossible for anyone without a U.S. passport or GC. And of course, a lot of companies are still restricting business travel.

There was an article just yesterday (linked)
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronav ... story.html

Basically saying the UK is going to open it's borders to US travelers who are fully vaccinated next week, so that's going to help outbound traffic at least, I don't think they would have done that without some kind of head nod from the US Government that things might change at our end too (although nothing has been announced, so the original point above is still very valid)

Even with the Delta Variant, I think we are closer to restriction lifting than we might think. Absolutely some airlines on the thinner routes will suspend and will cut already limited schedules, but I have a feeling it's going to be slightly better than we fear.

Regardless of what other countries do I don't see the Biden administration lifting any restrictions. He's been pretty clear on that and the increase in cases and hospitalizations is not helping. International travel will continue to be a problem as long as fully vaccinated individuals are still required to get tested. I know for me personally that is the reason we didn't travel to Europe this Summer. I also expect some EU countries to re-impose restrictions after the Summer season ends in order to open again for Xmas.
Foreign students from certain countries are now allowed to enter the U.S.
https://www.thedp.com/article/2021/04/i ... ates-covid

FGITD wrote:

aaflyer777 wrote:

Airlines that have not resumed BOS: Alitalia, El Al, Hainan, LATAM, Level, Porter, SAS (resumes in September), and Westjet

Don't see Alitalia or Hainan returning anytime soon given their financial situations, I think El AL, Level, and LATAM will come back next summer. Porter will be back assuming they survive. Westjet is kind of a wild card, with DL launching BOS-YYZ the need for them to serve BOS has kind of diminished. Be nice if they decide to re-launch YYC next summer.

Certain airlines have very much “moved out” of Logan. RAM, El Al and AZ for example. AZ less so, but the others have no equipment left here, offices vacated, and so on. Not necessarily a sign they’re gone forever, but none of the airlines that have stayed/returned have been much of a surprise based on what they still had in BOS.

Will be interesting to see how AZ plays out in Boston, given their relaunch situation.

https://airlineweekly.com/2021/07/italy ... s-october/

Appears Alitalia's replacement airline is going to have Boston in its initial network

VS4ever wrote:

Even with the Delta Variant, I think we are closer to restriction lifting than we might think. Absolutely some airlines on the thinner routes will suspend and will cut already limited schedules, but I have a feeling it's going to be slightly better than we fear.

Welcome back!

The challenge is going to be business travel will once again take a pause. There was some sense of resumption at-least for domestic travel and cautious optimism for international. But now, that is going to have an impact. Airlines wouldn't be able to continue with just VFR traffic forever.

Logan June-2021 numbers are out:

June-2021 pax: 2,121,185
June-2020 pax: 438,266

Growth rate difference: 384.0%

YTD total pax: 7,834,104 YTD AAGR: -4.5%
YTD total international pax: 792,383 YTD international pax AAGR: -42.3%

Detailed numbers for June-2021:

Jun-21 Jun-20 % change
Domestic Charter 502 2 25000.0%
Domestic Commuter 223,453 29,762 650.8%
Domestic Jet 1,682,727 386,617 335.2%
Total Domestic 1,906,682 416,381 357.9%
Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbean 109,399 13,058 737.8%
Canada 3,561 1,319 170.0%
Central America 5,764 - #DIV/0!
Europe 62,902 4,270 1373.1%
Middle East 21,476 - #DIV/0!
South America - - #DIV/0!
Trans-Pacific 3,445 - #DIV/0!
Australia - -
North Africa - - #DIV/0!
Other International - -
Total International 206,547 18,647 1007.7%
General Aviation 7,956 3,238 145.7%
Total airport passengers 2,121,185 438,266 384.0%

Love the 2021 vs 2020 comparisons.

I get the feeling that in the future 2020 will be left out as such an anomaly.

Good to see the new ITA should be here again.

It’s nice to see the place alive again.

One of my colleagues used to compare the main airline office hallway to an abandoned mine town. Notes on all the doors dated Feb 2020 stating that they were closing down just for 2 weeks. Offices untouched since immediately after their last flight departed. Most of those have since reopened, but there’s still a few.

A lot of additional A220 flying from B6 this fall out of BOS. From their November schedule, I'm seeing
3x FLL, 2x TPA/ATL, 1x MSP/BNA/SAT/AUS/ORD/IAH
I'm expecting this to really ramp up by next summer. Aside from the already announced MCI/MKE, I think DFW, DEN and MSY will also be seeing them.

tphuang wrote:

A lot of additional A220 flying from B6 this fall out of BOS. From their November schedule, I'm seeing
3x FLL, 2x TPA/ATL, 1x MSP/BNA/SAT/AUS/ORD/IAH
I'm expecting this to really ramp up by next summer. Aside from the already announced MCI/MKE, I think DFW, DEN and MSY will also be seeing them.

Just saw that, happy BOS is getting the A220 treatment, a wonderful aircraft.

FGITD wrote:

Love the 2021 vs 2020 comparisons.

I get the feeling that in the future 2020 will be left out as such an anomaly.

Good to see the new ITA should be here again.

It’s nice to see the place alive again.

One of my colleagues used to compare the main airline office hallway to an abandoned mine town. Notes on all the doors dated Feb 2020 stating that they were closing down just for 2 weeks. Offices untouched since immediately after their last flight departed. Most of those have since reopened, but there’s still a few.

I think just as interesting is the comparison to 2019
So I’ve adapted Iyerhari’s post accordingly
Logan June-2021 numbers are out:

June-2021 pax: 2,121,185
June-2019 pax: 3,946,406

YTD total pax: 7,834,104,
YTD international pax: 792,383, 20,357,147

Detailed numbers for June-2021:

Jun-21 Jun-19% change
Domestic Charter 502 626
Domestic Commuter 223,453 241,280
Domestic Jet 1,682,727 2,846,383
Total Domestic 1,906,682 3,088,289
Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbean 109,399 109,218
Canada 3,561 95,096
Central America 5,764 23,391
Europe 62,902 482,967
Middle East 21,476 70,010
South America - 7,604
Trans-Pacific 3,445 - 57,917
Australia - -
North Africa - 1,674
Other International - -
Total International 206,547 847,877
General Aviation 7,956 10,240
Total airport passengers 2,121,185 3,946,406

So interestingly Caribbean traffic is higher than pre Covid along with the smaller commuter traffic is almost there.
Overall domestic traffic is back to 61% of per Covid numbers
International unsurprisingly is around 1/4 because of the travel bans still in place. Be interesting to see what happens to the Canadian numbers when the shackles get released soon. UK numbers should increase a bit, but everything else is going to stay depressed until things get changed (which I know is looking unlikely given the increase in cases)

FGITD wrote:

aaflyer777 wrote:

Airlines that have not resumed BOS: Alitalia, El Al, Hainan, LATAM, Level, Porter, SAS (resumes in September), and Westjet

Don't see Alitalia or Hainan returning anytime soon given their financial situations, I think El AL, Level, and LATAM will come back next summer. Porter will be back assuming they survive. Westjet is kind of a wild card, with DL launching BOS-YYZ the need for them to serve BOS has kind of diminished. Be nice if they decide to re-launch YYC next summer.

Certain airlines have very much “moved out” of Logan. RAM, El Al and AZ for example. AZ less so, but the others have no equipment left here, offices vacated, and so on. Not necessarily a sign they’re gone forever, but none of the airlines that have stayed/returned have been much of a surprise based on what they still had in BOS.

Will be interesting to see how AZ plays out in Boston, given their relaunch situation.

I thought El Al was still selling tickets to Boston from spring 2022, but yeah, looks like it's gone from GDS.

MAH4546 wrote:

FGITD wrote:

aaflyer777 wrote:

Airlines that have not resumed BOS: Alitalia, El Al, Hainan, LATAM, Level, Porter, SAS (resumes in September), and Westjet

Don't see Alitalia or Hainan returning anytime soon given their financial situations, I think El AL, Level, and LATAM will come back next summer. Porter will be back assuming they survive. Westjet is kind of a wild card, with DL launching BOS-YYZ the need for them to serve BOS has kind of diminished. Be nice if they decide to re-launch YYC next summer.

Certain airlines have very much “moved out” of Logan. RAM, El Al and AZ for example. AZ less so, but the others have no equipment left here, offices vacated, and so on. Not necessarily a sign they’re gone forever, but none of the airlines that have stayed/returned have been much of a surprise based on what they still had in BOS.

Will be interesting to see how AZ plays out in Boston, given their relaunch situation.

I thought El Al was still selling tickets to Boston from spring 2022, but yeah, looks like it's gone from GDS.

Did OS ever actually start Boston? My recollection was that they were going to start soon after the pandemic hit. I’ve tried to block that time out of my mind.

IN any event, given that they currently have about 4 wide bodies, I doubt we’ll see them anytime soon, if ever.

tlecam wrote:

MAH4546 wrote:

FGITD wrote:

Certain airlines have very much “moved out” of Logan. RAM, El Al and AZ for example. AZ less so, but the others have no equipment left here, offices vacated, and so on. Not necessarily a sign they’re gone forever, but none of the airlines that have stayed/returned have been much of a surprise based on what they still had in BOS.

Will be interesting to see how AZ plays out in Boston, given their relaunch situation.

I thought El Al was still selling tickets to Boston from spring 2022, but yeah, looks like it's gone from GDS.

Did OS ever actually start Boston? My recollection was that they were going to start soon after the pandemic hit. I’ve tried to block that time out of my mind.

IN any event, given that they currently have about 4 wide bodies, I doubt we’ll see them anytime soon, if ever.

As I recall, they did not. I think we were literally a day or two away from them starting service when it all came to a sudden stop.

Maybe when they get their new 787s they will take another look at starting it

VS4ever wrote:

FGITD wrote:

Love the 2021 vs 2020 comparisons.

I get the feeling that in the future 2020 will be left out as such an anomaly.

Good to see the new ITA should be here again.

It’s nice to see the place alive again.

One of my colleagues used to compare the main airline office hallway to an abandoned mine town. Notes on all the doors dated Feb 2020 stating that they were closing down just for 2 weeks. Offices untouched since immediately after their last flight departed. Most of those have since reopened, but there’s still a few.

I think just as interesting is the comparison to 2019
So I’ve adapted Iyerhari’s post accordingly
Logan June-2021 numbers are out:

June-2021 pax: 2,121,185
June-2019 pax: 3,946,406

YTD total pax: 7,834,104,
YTD international pax: 792,383, 20,357,147

Detailed numbers for June-2021:

Jun-21 Jun-19% change
Domestic Charter 502 626
Domestic Commuter 223,453 241,280
Domestic Jet 1,682,727 2,846,383
Total Domestic 1,906,682 3,088,289
Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbean 109,399 109,218
Canada 3,561 95,096
Central America 5,764 23,391
Europe 62,902 482,967
Middle East 21,476 70,010
South America - 7,604
Trans-Pacific 3,445 - 57,917
Australia - -
North Africa - 1,674
Other International - -
Total International 206,547 847,877
General Aviation 7,956 10,240
Total airport passengers 2,121,185 3,946,406

So interestingly Caribbean traffic is higher than pre Covid along with the smaller commuter traffic is almost there.
Overall domestic traffic is back to 61% of per Covid numbers
International unsurprisingly is around 1/4 because of the travel bans still in place. Be interesting to see what happens to the Canadian numbers when the shackles get released soon. UK numbers should increase a bit, but everything else is going to stay depressed until things get changed (which I know is looking unlikely given the increase in cases)

I'm curious whether Puerto Rico is included in the Caribbean group or Domestic group.
What about Mexico? I don't see a North America group so I assume Mexico is "Caribbean" too or is it Central America?
It's logical that Caribbean saw so many travelers considering some of those islands were some of the few places that Americans could travel to.

In any case, the latest news is that the EU will meet next week to decide whether to stop allowing Americans in, again. That will definitely put a damper on Winter TATL travel and routes.

airbazar wrote:

VS4ever wrote:

FGITD wrote:

Love the 2021 vs 2020 comparisons.

I get the feeling that in the future 2020 will be left out as such an anomaly.

Good to see the new ITA should be here again.

It’s nice to see the place alive again.

One of my colleagues used to compare the main airline office hallway to an abandoned mine town. Notes on all the doors dated Feb 2020 stating that they were closing down just for 2 weeks. Offices untouched since immediately after their last flight departed. Most of those have since reopened, but there’s still a few.

I think just as interesting is the comparison to 2019
So I’ve adapted Iyerhari’s post accordingly
Logan June-2021 numbers are out:

June-2021 pax: 2,121,185
June-2019 pax: 3,946,406

YTD total pax: 7,834,104,
YTD international pax: 792,383, 20,357,147

Detailed numbers for June-2021:

Jun-21 Jun-19% change
Domestic Charter 502 626
Domestic Commuter 223,453 241,280
Domestic Jet 1,682,727 2,846,383
Total Domestic 1,906,682 3,088,289
Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbean 109,399 109,218
Canada 3,561 95,096
Central America 5,764 23,391
Europe 62,902 482,967
Middle East 21,476 70,010
South America - 7,604
Trans-Pacific 3,445 - 57,917
Australia - -
North Africa - 1,674
Other International - -
Total International 206,547 847,877
General Aviation 7,956 10,240
Total airport passengers 2,121,185 3,946,406

So interestingly Caribbean traffic is higher than pre Covid along with the smaller commuter traffic is almost there.
Overall domestic traffic is back to 61% of per Covid numbers
International unsurprisingly is around 1/4 because of the travel bans still in place. Be interesting to see what happens to the Canadian numbers when the shackles get released soon. UK numbers should increase a bit, but everything else is going to stay depressed until things get changed (which I know is looking unlikely given the increase in cases)

I'm curious whether Puerto Rico is included in the Caribbean group or Domestic group.
What about Mexico? I don't see a North America group so I assume Mexico is "Caribbean" too or is it Central America?
It's logical that Caribbean saw so many travelers considering some of those islands were some of the few places that Americans could travel to.

In any case, the latest news is that the EU will meet next week to decide whether to stop allowing Americans in, again. That will definitely put a damper on Winter TATL travel and routes.

It’s hard to truly determine the math, the T-100,s count SJU and STT as domestic, but I believe Massport put them into Caribbean. As for Mexico, history reminded me I think that went into Central America section, as the flight counts match pretty closely. Sadly with a 6 month delay on T-100 international it takes a long memory to confirm it all.

I agree the logic, just surprised me a little when I saw it that it was actually higher.

Just remember UK vs EU decisions are now 2 separate things. But either way you are right that could have a winter impact. I’m hoping not as I would really like to see my parents who are struggling

VS4ever wrote:

airbazar wrote:

VS4ever wrote:

I think just as interesting is the comparison to 2019
So I’ve adapted Iyerhari’s post accordingly
Logan June-2021 numbers are out:

June-2021 pax: 2,121,185
June-2019 pax: 3,946,406

YTD total pax: 7,834,104,
YTD international pax: 792,383, 20,357,147

Detailed numbers for June-2021:

Jun-21 Jun-19% change
Domestic Charter 502 626
Domestic Commuter 223,453 241,280
Domestic Jet 1,682,727 2,846,383
Total Domestic 1,906,682 3,088,289
Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbean 109,399 109,218
Canada 3,561 95,096
Central America 5,764 23,391
Europe 62,902 482,967
Middle East 21,476 70,010
South America - 7,604
Trans-Pacific 3,445 - 57,917
Australia - -
North Africa - 1,674
Other International - -
Total International 206,547 847,877
General Aviation 7,956 10,240
Total airport passengers 2,121,185 3,946,406

So interestingly Caribbean traffic is higher than pre Covid along with the smaller commuter traffic is almost there.
Overall domestic traffic is back to 61% of per Covid numbers
International unsurprisingly is around 1/4 because of the travel bans still in place. Be interesting to see what happens to the Canadian numbers when the shackles get released soon. UK numbers should increase a bit, but everything else is going to stay depressed until things get changed (which I know is looking unlikely given the increase in cases)

I'm curious whether Puerto Rico is included in the Caribbean group or Domestic group.
What about Mexico? I don't see a North America group so I assume Mexico is "Caribbean" too or is it Central America?
It's logical that Caribbean saw so many travelers considering some of those islands were some of the few places that Americans could travel to.

In any case, the latest news is that the EU will meet next week to decide whether to stop allowing Americans in, again. That will definitely put a damper on Winter TATL travel and routes.

It’s hard to truly determine the math, the T-100,s count SJU and STT as domestic, but I believe Massport put them into Caribbean. As for Mexico, history reminded me I think that went into Central America section, as the flight counts match pretty closely. Sadly with a 6 month delay on T-100 international it takes a long memory to confirm it all.

I agree the logic, just surprised me a little when I saw it that it was actually higher.

Just remember UK vs EU decisions are now 2 separate things. But either way you are right that could have a winter impact. I’m hoping not as I would really like to see my parents who are struggling

If I remember correctly the airlines even reported the data differently to Massport. I remember JetBlue considered LIR and CUN Caribbean.

Cathay Pacific is on its way to BOS with the A350-1000!!!

Cathay back in Boston? I thought people from Asia were still banned from entering the US.

Wow, I would have liked to have seen that A350-1000 at BOS. Too bad the landings are after dark. When they land on the 4s, I can catch some great avgeek porn from my roof deck and/or Castle ISland.

I did catch the Korean 789 landing one morning last week.

Dieuwer wrote:

Cathay back in Boston? I thought people from Asia were still banned from entering the US.

From everywhere not just from Asia, except U.S. citizens and GC holders (or if you're Lionel Messi, apparently who spent his Summer vacation in Miami). I suspect that just like with the TATL routes there are enough people flying to Asia that meet those requirements. Business travel is also allowed IIRC although I don't think there is a lot of TPAC business travel going on. And then of course there's the cargo aspect.

Starting today, August 9, 2021, Canada opens its border to the U.S. citizens and residents for non-essential travel today as long as each is fully vaccinated and has a negative COVID-19 test result within the 72-hour time period prior to entry. So, presumably, non-business travel to Canada from the U.S. side can commence.
I wonder if the BOS-YYZ/YUL flights are fuller today.

tlecam wrote:

Wow, I would have liked to have seen that A350-1000 at BOS. Too bad the landings are after dark. When they land on the 4s, I can catch some great avgeek porn from my roof deck and/or Castle ISland.

I did catch the Korean 789 landing one morning last week.

As luck would have it, you still can. It’s parked over at North Cargo, although not in a particularly ideal position for spotters

FGITD wrote:

tlecam wrote:

Wow, I would have liked to have seen that A350-1000 at BOS. Too bad the landings are after dark. When they land on the 4s, I can catch some great avgeek porn from my roof deck and/or Castle ISland.

I did catch the Korean 789 landing one morning last week.

As luck would have it, you still can. It’s parked over at North Cargo, although not in a particularly ideal position for spotters

Would that suggest the same crew that brought the plane in is flying it out (hence a 24-hour gap)?

chrisnh wrote:

FGITD wrote:

tlecam wrote:

Wow, I would have liked to have seen that A350-1000 at BOS. Too bad the landings are after dark. When they land on the 4s, I can catch some great avgeek porn from my roof deck and/or Castle ISland.

I did catch the Korean 789 landing one morning last week.

As luck would have it, you still can. It’s parked over at North Cargo, although not in a particularly ideal position for spotters

Would that suggest the same crew that brought the plane in is flying it out (hence a 24-hour gap)?

Can’t say for sure as I’m unfamiliar with CX ops, but I’d be willing to guess that would be the case

Unfortunately I didn’t realize that due to the new structure, I’m not sure if you could really see the aircraft from anywhere outside the airport. Not my first 350-1000 but it’s definitely a gorgeous aircraft

FGITD wrote:

chrisnh wrote:

FGITD wrote:

As luck would have it, you still can. It’s parked over at North Cargo, although not in a particularly ideal position for spotters

Would that suggest the same crew that brought the plane in is flying it out (hence a 24-hour gap)?

Can’t say for sure as I’m unfamiliar with CX ops, but I’d be willing to guess that would be the case

Unfortunately I didn’t realize that due to the new structure, I’m not sure if you could really see the aircraft from anywhere outside the airport. Not my first 350-1000 but it’s definitely a gorgeous aircraft

Yeah that's the downside of the new terminal extension. It pretty much spells the end of aircraft watching on the ramp. I suspect the only place now may be the top floor of the remote parking garage.

airbazar wrote:

FGITD wrote:

chrisnh wrote:

Would that suggest the same crew that brought the plane in is flying it out (hence a 24-hour gap)?

Can’t say for sure as I’m unfamiliar with CX ops, but I’d be willing to guess that would be the case

Unfortunately I didn’t realize that due to the new structure, I’m not sure if you could really see the aircraft from anywhere outside the airport. Not my first 350-1000 but it’s definitely a gorgeous aircraft

Yeah that's the downside of the new terminal extension. It pretty much spells the end of aircraft watching on the ramp. I suspect the only place now may be the top floor of the remote parking garage.

Might be able to see over it from the top floor of central, but it’d be a limited view.

Personals what I’ll miss is that view of the city. Working over at E10/11/12 and the north cargo spots we used to get a phenomenal view of Boston

FGITD wrote:

airbazar wrote:

Yeah that's the downside of the new terminal extension. It pretty much spells the end of aircraft watching on the ramp. I suspect the only place now may be the top floor of the remote parking garage.

Might be able to see over it from the top floor of central, but it’d be a limited view.

Personals what I’ll miss is that view of the city. Working over at E10/11/12 and the north cargo spots we used to get a phenomenal view of Boston

Yeah, that was the big selling point for the BA lounge, IIRC. Oh well, we can't have everything, it will be a really nice facility I'm sure and some day it will be full again

Not the first time one has appeared, but another Lufthansa CRJ900 at Boston today. Saw it flying overhead and did a double take. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/d-ackb

Here were the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of BOS in May 2021:
BNA-BOS - 16319 passengers, 17889 seats, 91.22% load factor
BOS-BWI - 40584 passengers, 45098 seats, 89.99% load factor
BOS-DEN - 13742 passengers, 14775 seats, 93.01% load factor
BOS-FLL - 1193 passengers, 1526 seats, 78.18% load factor
BOS-MCO - 2451 passengers, 2719 seats, 90.14% load factor
BOS-MDW - 19607 passengers, 20627 seats, 95.06% load factor
BOS-STL - 9751 passengers, 10257 seats, 95.07% load factor

Didn’t realize CX isn’t coming back for good. Apparently it’s only 6 or so flights to bring students back, and then they’re closing up shop again. Not sure if that was ever mentioned previously.

jplatts wrote:

Here were the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of BOS in May 2021:
BNA-BOS - 16319 passengers, 17889 seats, 91.22% load factor
BOS-BWI - 40584 passengers, 45098 seats, 89.99% load factor
BOS-DEN - 13742 passengers, 14775 seats, 93.01% load factor
BOS-FLL - 1193 passengers, 1526 seats, 78.18% load factor
BOS-MCO - 2451 passengers, 2719 seats, 90.14% load factor
BOS-MDW - 19607 passengers, 20627 seats, 95.06% load factor
BOS-STL - 9751 passengers, 10257 seats, 95.07% load factor

I hear a lot about how WN doesn't do well at BOS but the loads say otherwise.

pmanni1 wrote:

jplatts wrote:

Here were the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of BOS in May 2021:
BNA-BOS - 16319 passengers, 17889 seats, 91.22% load factor
BOS-BWI - 40584 passengers, 45098 seats, 89.99% load factor
BOS-DEN - 13742 passengers, 14775 seats, 93.01% load factor
BOS-FLL - 1193 passengers, 1526 seats, 78.18% load factor
BOS-MCO - 2451 passengers, 2719 seats, 90.14% load factor
BOS-MDW - 19607 passengers, 20627 seats, 95.06% load factor
BOS-STL - 9751 passengers, 10257 seats, 95.07% load factor

I hear a lot about how WN doesn't do well at BOS but the loads say otherwise.

Loads <> profit, you can fill 100% of the seats but if you have to sell them dirt cheap. Doesn’t help

Interesting article about WOrcester - Delta service to LGA>. I realize that this is BOS, but I haven’t see the old New England airports thread in awhile.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/delta-anno ... t/37340984