Chicago Aviation Thread - 2021

United787 · Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm

Can't wait to see it in person in a few weeks!

Planeboy17 · Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:43 pm

United787 wrote:
Can't wait to see it in person in a few weeks!

It does look good in person. At least from the outside it makes a difference.

Rl12383 · Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:22 pm

Progress also being made in the pedestrian tunnels. Looks like the first of the renovated tunnels is finally open:

https://twitter.com/atrude777/status/14 ... 96521?s=21

United787 · Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:28 pm

Greg Hinz of Crain's Chicago Business will be doing a webcast with Jamie Rhee, Commissioner, Chicago Dept. of Aviation on Thur 12/9 at 1pm (CST). I am anxious to get an update on the O'Hare 21 Project.

https://web.cvent.com/event/04a41c07-84 ... ote-Events

ORDLHR787 · Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:19 pm

United787 wrote:
Greg Hinz of Crain's Chicago Business will be doing a webcast with Jamie Rhee, Commissioner, Chicago Dept. of Aviation on Thur 12/9 at 1pm (CST). I am anxious to get an update on the O'Hare 21 Project.

https://web.cvent.com/event/04a41c07-84 ... ote-Events

Indeed. Should be very interesting. Is there any update on 9R/27L? I read somewhere once the completion dat was going to be December 2.

United787 · Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:19 am

Rl12383 wrote:
Progress also being made in the pedestrian tunnels. Looks like the first of the renovated tunnels is finally open:

https://twitter.com/atrude777/status/14 ... 96521?s=21

Is this between the CTA station and T1, T2 & T3?

Elkadad313 · Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:40 pm

United787 wrote:
Greg Hinz of Crain's Chicago Business will be doing a webcast with Jamie Rhee, Commissioner, Chicago Dept. of Aviation on Thur 12/9 at 1pm (CST). I am anxious to get an update on the O'Hare 21 Project.

https://web.cvent.com/event/04a41c07-84 ... ote-Events

The project seems to be progressing quite well. What aspect of it is causing your anxiety?

N353SK · Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:42 pm

ORDLHR787 wrote:
United787 wrote:
Greg Hinz of Crain's Chicago Business will be doing a webcast with Jamie Rhee, Commissioner, Chicago Dept. of Aviation on Thur 12/9 at 1pm (CST). I am anxious to get an update on the O'Hare 21 Project.

https://web.cvent.com/event/04a41c07-84 ... ote-Events

Indeed. Should be very interesting. Is there any update on 9R/27L? I read somewhere once the completion dat was going to be December 2.

9R/27L is scheduled to open (at least partially) on December 2nd. Due to construction on the west side of the field landings will not be allowed on 9R and 27L will have a shortened available takeoff distance.

atrude777 · Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:11 pm

United787 wrote:
Rl12383 wrote:
Progress also being made in the pedestrian tunnels. Looks like the first of the renovated tunnels is finally open:

https://twitter.com/atrude777/status/14 ... 96521?s=21

Is this between the CTA station and T1, T2 & T3?

This Hallway is leaving Terminal 1 from the Baggage Claim Area, on the way to the CTA Station. So I took this photo as soon as I left Baggage Claim I believe 10-14, this would have been under the Security Checkpoint that gets you into B9/10/11 area.

I believe the Walkway from Terminal 2 was also completed but I haven't seen that in person yet.

They closed the middle walkway to renovate the Hallway there too, that walkway was next to the Starbucks in Baggage Claim that has also closed too.

Alex

ILikeTrains · Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:52 pm

N353SK wrote:
ORDLHR787 wrote:
United787 wrote:
Greg Hinz of Crain's Chicago Business will be doing a webcast with Jamie Rhee, Commissioner, Chicago Dept. of Aviation on Thur 12/9 at 1pm (CST). I am anxious to get an update on the O'Hare 21 Project.

https://web.cvent.com/event/04a41c07-84 ... ote-Events

Indeed. Should be very interesting. Is there any update on 9R/27L? I read somewhere once the completion dat was going to be December 2.

9R/27L is scheduled to open (at least partially) on December 2nd. Due to construction on the west side of the field landings will not be allowed on 9R and 27L will have a shortened available takeoff distance.

Whats being constructed on the west side of the field?

kbmiflyer · Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:14 pm

N353SK wrote:
9R/27L is scheduled to open (at least partially) on December 2nd. Due to construction on the west side of the field landings will not be allowed on 9R and 27L will have a shortened available takeoff distance.

This is exciting as it is really the last piece to move ORD to a true 6 runway parallel operation. The 9R landing restriction doesn't seem like it will have much impact as 9C should be the primary landing runway. Takeoff restrictions on 27L may have a little impact. Since most of the international traffic departs to the north I wonder if that traffic will move to 27L instead 28R where most of it is now.

yeogeo · Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:20 pm

N353SK wrote:
9R/27L is scheduled to open (at least partially) on December 2nd. Due to construction on the west side of the field landings will not be allowed on 9R and 27L will have a shortened available takeoff distance.

"The Federal Aviation Administration, in a statement today [Dec. 1], said the newly extended runway will have only limited use to start. That will allow the agency to fully install and test instrument landing systems."

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/greg-hi ... on-project

yeogeo · Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:48 pm

We've waited a long time for this: the ORD FAA diagram was updated today showing 9R/27L complete.
Still watching the radar for it being used, supposedly today.

https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2112/0016 ... ddest=(ORD)

Runways at O'Hare now operational:
10L/28R 13000' / 2.46mi
9R/27L 11260' / 2.132mi
9C/27C 11245' / 2.129mi
10C/28C 10800' / 2.04mi
4R/22L 8075' / 1.53mi
10R/28L 7500' / 1.42mi
9L/27R 7500' / 1.42mi
4L/22R 7500' / 1.42mi

sircygnus · Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:25 pm

yeogeo wrote:
We've waited a long time for this: the ORD FAA diagram was updated today showing 9R/27L complete.
Still watching the radar for it being used, supposedly today.

https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2112/0016 ... ddest=(ORD)

Runways at O'Hare now operational:
10L/28R 13000' / 2.46mi
9R/27L 11260' / 2.132mi
9C/27C 11245' / 2.129mi
10C/28C 10800' / 2.04mi
4R/22L 8075' / 1.53mi
10R/28L 7500' / 1.42mi
9L/27R 7500' / 1.42mi
4L/22R 7500' / 1.42mi

Would it be safe to say that this completes the OMP? What an accomplishment to see the transformation!

yeogeo · Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:02 pm

sircygnus wrote:
What an accomplishment to see the transformation!

!

sircygnus wrote:
Would it be safe to say that this completes the OMP?

Taxiways north of 9C/27C can't be in their final layout - between Z and M its a mess! Whether that project is part of the OMP I can't say; I don't recall seeing the final configuration of taxiways up there. Anybody fill me in?

kbmiflyer · Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:32 pm

At least as of 10:30 am this morning (9/2), it looks like all operations are concentrated on the south side of the airport. Are they doing some kind of dedication of the new runway?

Elkadad313 · Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:50 pm

kbmiflyer wrote:
At least as of 10:30 am this morning (9/2), it looks like all operations are concentrated on the south side of the airport. Are they doing some kind of dedication of the new runway?

I've looked at FR24 3-4 times since 9:30 am and 27C and 27R have both been in use for arrivals along with 28C -- 28R and 22R are handling departures.

kordcj · Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:26 pm

sircygnus wrote:
yeogeo wrote:
We've waited a long time for this: the ORD FAA diagram was updated today showing 9R/27L complete.
Still watching the radar for it being used, supposedly today.

https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2112/0016 ... ddest=(ORD)

Runways at O'Hare now operational:
10L/28R 13000' / 2.46mi
9R/27L 11260' / 2.132mi
9C/27C 11245' / 2.129mi
10C/28C 10800' / 2.04mi
4R/22L 8075' / 1.53mi
10R/28L 7500' / 1.42mi
9L/27R 7500' / 1.42mi
4L/22R 7500' / 1.42mi

Would it be safe to say that this completes the OMP? What an accomplishment to see the transformation!

I was just telling a friend the same thing. Such an accomplishment. Glad to see it finally finish and now onward to ORD21. Hopefully we aren’t celebrating its completion in 2036.

United787 · Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:30 pm

Elkadad313 wrote:
United787 wrote:
Greg Hinz of Crain's Chicago Business will be doing a webcast with Jamie Rhee, Commissioner, Chicago Dept. of Aviation on Thur 12/9 at 1pm (CST). I am anxious to get an update on the O'Hare 21 Project.

https://web.cvent.com/event/04a41c07-84 ... ote-Events

The project seems to be progressing quite well. What aspect of it is causing your anxiety?

I know the T5 project is progressing well because we can physically see it's progress.

But we have heard very little about the Global Terminal (T2) and the two satellite concourses since the architectural teams were selected 2 years ago. The last article in the project website's newsroom on those two projects was from the securing of the design teams in January 2020, pre-covid!

https://www.ord21.com/Newsroom/pages/default.aspx

United787 · Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:33 pm

sircygnus wrote:
Would it be safe to say that this completes the OMP? What an accomplishment to see the transformation!

Yes. The scale and scope of the OMP is mind blowing. By far the largest airport project in the US since DEN, truely amazing.

yeogeo · Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:56 am

The T-5 parking garage construction process begins:

( CDA email)

PUDFW · Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:07 pm

Any one know anything about the new United Club in C? I walked passed it the other day and they have a sign that says coming in 2022, fall I believe.

This was talked about for a while before Covid, when they made the Polaris Club they took too much space from the United Club. I thought there was a plan to actually physically build onto the terminal additional space. I thought this might have even been already done.

This would greatly help United especially if it was a huge club. Lots of overcrowding at the other lounges and when I visit the Admirals Club its clearly a better experience.

United787 · Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:17 pm

yeogeo wrote:
The T-5 parking garage construction process begins

Great news. Would love to see some drawings of the design. Anyone want to request drawings and upload them here? I assume this would be public information at this point. I wouldn't pass the prequal so I can't go through that process...

https://www.flychicago.com/business/opp ... ewsid=1689

Planeboy17 · Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:36 am

Over in the Flair Airlines thread our friend jcwr56 stated to expect sales to ORD soon. Didn’t state which Canadian city to/from ORD though.

Crosswind787 · Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:46 pm

kbmiflyer wrote:
N353SK wrote:
9R/27L is scheduled to open (at least partially) on December 2nd. Due to construction on the west side of the field landings will not be allowed on 9R and 27L will have a shortened available takeoff distance.

This is exciting as it is really the last piece to move ORD to a true 6 runway parallel operation. The 9R landing restriction doesn't seem like it will have much impact as 9C should be the primary landing runway. Takeoff restrictions on 27L may have a little impact. Since most of the international traffic departs to the north I wonder if that traffic will move to 27L instead 28R where most of it is now.

With 28R still being the longest runway and the fact they give radar vectors to the first fix no matter the runway I think much of the heavy traffic will use 28R still. But before they lengthened 27L/9R I used to see some European heavies (KLM) depart 9R when it was shorter so who really knows.

yeogeo · Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:20 pm

A return to pax operation at O'Hare by VS? We'll see...
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1467531

jetblastdubai · Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:18 pm

Crosswind787 wrote:

With 28R still being the longest runway and the fact they give radar vectors to the first fix no matter the runway I think much of the heavy traffic will use 28R still. But before they lengthened 27L/9R I used to see some European heavies (KLM) depart 9R when it was shorter so who really knows.

From my experience working in ORD tower years ago, 9R/27L @ 11,260' will be more than enough for 99.9% of the European departures as well a fair amount of Asian traffic with the more powerful aircraft. That being said, there were/are certain carriers/crews that will require or request the longest available runway regardless of the alternative. The 742 and 744 plus the A342/343 were what we called "runway hogs" and usually required a lot of runway.

Fortunately, Asian traffic is almost filed over a north fix and a vast majority of European traffic is also initially northbound out of ORD. On either an east or west configuration, the north fix departures could be launched off of either the north or south complex and not necessarily impact the flow off of the other departure runway(s). On an east flow, west fix departures should most definitely depart from the north complex as they initially turn northwest bound before turning west for the climb corridor. On a west flow, the east fix departures should depart from the north complex as they initially fly northeast bound before turning east for the climb corridor.

That being said, now having potentially two "free roll" departure runways, the departure taxi times should be a little better. Having to depart 22L in 28C arrival gaps plus applying wake turbulence penalties from 28C heavy arrivals makes 22L far less efficient than a "free roll" runway on a west flow. Runway balance will be a big factor in helping the departure flow instead of needing to overload one of the departure runways.

MLIAA · Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:29 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
Crosswind787 wrote:

With 28R still being the longest runway and the fact they give radar vectors to the first fix no matter the runway I think much of the heavy traffic will use 28R still. But before they lengthened 27L/9R I used to see some European heavies (KLM) depart 9R when it was shorter so who really knows.

From my experience working in ORD tower years ago, 9R/27L @ 11,260' will be more than enough for 99.9% of the European departures as well a fair amount of Asian traffic with the more powerful aircraft. That being said, there were/are certain carriers/crews that will require or request the longest available runway regardless of the alternative. The 742 and 744 plus the A342/343 were what we called "runway hogs" and usually required a lot of runway.

Fortunately, Asian traffic is almost filed over a north fix and a vast majority of European traffic is also initially northbound out of ORD. On either an east or west configuration, the north fix departures could be launched off of either the north or south complex and not necessarily impact the flow off of the other departure runway(s). On an east flow, west fix departures should most definitely depart from the north complex as they initially turn northwest bound before turning west for the climb corridor. On a west flow, the east fix departures should depart from the north complex as they initially fly northeast bound before turning east for the climb corridor.

That being said, now having potentially two "free roll" departure runways, the departure taxi times should be a little better. Having to depart 22L in 28C arrival gaps plus applying wake turbulence penalties from 28C heavy arrivals makes 22L far less efficient than a "free roll" runway on a west flow. Runway balance will be a big factor in helping the departure flow instead of needing to overload one of the departure runways.

Do you know if they will still regularly send departures off 22L? Having 3 departure runways would be hugely efficient.

jetblastdubai · Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:10 pm

MLIAA wrote:

Do you know if they will still regularly send departures off 22L? Having 3 departure runways would be hugely efficient.

That'd be a question for a current ORD tower controller. You'd be surprised how efficient two free roll runways can be when there are limited wake turbulence penalties to apply.

In IFR weather, a non-parallel departure runway (22L or 4L) adds some efficiency benefits for establishing the initial course divergence needed when visual separation cannot be used. Without being able to apply some type of visual departure separation, none of the closely-spaced runways will be free-roll so even though the 3 arrival runways can operate without restrictions, departures will be curbed somewhat.

yeogeo · Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:56 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
Over in the Flair Airlines thread our friend jcwr56 stated to expect sales to ORD soon. Didn’t state which Canadian city to/from ORD though.

YHM? YYZ? Who knows? Anyway, interesting. WestJet didn't last long at O'Hare so I'd think that might be a cautionary tale for a ULCC contemplating ORD>Canada, but hey, best of luck!

Planeboy17 · Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:04 am

yeogeo wrote:
A return to pax operation at O'Hare by VS? We'll see...
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1467531

Unfortunately not. VS has stated it will be a destination they have not served before. However, before the pandemic, when LHR was lobbying for the third runway, VS showed a map with the cities they intended served with the expansion and ORD was one of those cities.

phatfarmlines · Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:50 am

With the new runway layout complete, how does this impact takeoff patterns? ORD takeoffs like to do that southern turn immediately after takeoff from both ends of the runway, a bit weird for an airspace that big.

Crosswind787 · Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:17 am

phatfarmlines wrote:
With the new runway layout complete, how does this impact takeoff patterns? ORD takeoffs like to do that southern turn immediately after takeoff from both ends of the runway, a bit weird for an airspace that big.

Not so much about the airspace but rather the position of the initial fix being vectored to. For many flights that would be to the Southwest, south and southeast causing a quick left off the 28s/27s or quick right off the 9s/10s.

yeogeo · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:15 pm

I remember a mention of this upthread (or somewhere else?), but here's more detail on UA moving 900 workers out of Willis Tower to Arlington Heights:

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/202112 ... on-heights

airstatdfw · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:31 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
MLIAA wrote:

Do you know if they will still regularly send departures off 22L? Having 3 departure runways would be hugely efficient.

That'd be a question for a current ORD tower controller. You'd be surprised how efficient two free roll runways can be when there are limited wake turbulence penalties to apply.

In IFR weather, a non-parallel departure runway (22L or 4L) adds some efficiency benefits for establishing the initial course divergence needed when visual separation cannot be used. Without being able to apply some type of visual departure separation, none of the closely-spaced runways will be free-roll so even though the 3 arrival runways can operate without restrictions, departures will be curbed somewhat.

Yes we will keep using 22L for departures and 27L will be the extra 3rd Rwy for departures when we have an influx of departures going out. The reason is when we depart 27L it increases the taxi time for the arrivals of 27C and 27R as everyone taxis back to PP to cross behind the departures at TT.

We will still only depart 2 Rwys on East flow 9R @ BB and 10L @ DD. The arrivals may be on different Rwys depending on weather conditions and other factors. The most efficient arrival rate is to land 9L, 10C and 10R.

On east flow 4L becomes hard to use as we have to treat it as a crossing Rwy with all of the 9s. So if we don’t land 9C in IFR we still have a free roll Rwy of 9R, but it will be slower than a VFR day as we still have to protect for 9L.

yeogeo · Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:53 pm

The new 9R is being used for takeoffs this morning - first I've seen. :bigthumbsup:

dopplerd · Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:01 pm

BA is sueing Chicago for $3,000,000 over FOD damage to 6 engines on 3 787s. Apparently this happened Nov/Dec last year.

I've not heard of any other planes having FOD damage too both engines, let alone 3 in three days from the same carrier. Something sounds weird.

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2021 ... iners/amp/

jetblastdubai · Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:55 pm

airstatdfw wrote:
We will still only depart 2 Rwys on East flow 9R @ BB and 10L @ DD. The arrivals may be on different Rwys depending on weather conditions and other factors. The most efficient arrival rate is to land 9L, 10C and 10R.

What are the WX minimums for landing 10C and 10R?

trex8 · Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:54 pm

yeogeo wrote:
I remember a mention of this upthread (or somewhere else?), but here's more detail on UA moving 900 workers out of Willis Tower to Arlington Heights:

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/202112 ... on-heights

theres no space at the old Mount Prospect property??

drdisque · Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:35 pm

trex8 wrote:
yeogeo wrote:
I remember a mention of this upthread (or somewhere else?), but here's more detail on UA moving 900 workers out of Willis Tower to Arlington Heights:

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/202112 ... on-heights

theres no space at the old Mount Prospect property??

The old property is in Elk Grove Township.

They've already sold part of the site and are trying to close down and sell the rest.

WROORD · Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:55 pm

Rl12383 wrote:
Progress also being made in the pedestrian tunnels. Looks like the first of the renovated tunnels is finally open:

https://twitter.com/atrude777/status/14 ... 96521?s=21

Yes, It look better, but the floor seems to be the same?

airstatdfw · Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:49 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
airstatdfw wrote:
We will still only depart 2 Rwys on East flow 9R @ BB and 10L @ DD. The arrivals may be on different Rwys depending on weather conditions and other factors. The most efficient arrival rate is to land 9L, 10C and 10R.

What are the WX minimums for landing 10C and 10R?

Rwy 10C is CAT II/III and Rwy 10R is 300 AGL. We used to not be able to land 10R in ILS critical conditions. That has changed as we now double back the Rwy 10R arrivals and cross Rwy 10C at BB when we are less than 800 and/or 2 miles.

jetblastdubai · Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:53 am

airstatdfw wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:
airstatdfw wrote:
We will still only depart 2 Rwys on East flow 9R @ BB and 10L @ DD. The arrivals may be on different Rwys depending on weather conditions and other factors. The most efficient arrival rate is to land 9L, 10C and 10R.

What are the WX minimums for landing 10C and 10R?

Rwy 10C is CAT II/III and Rwy 10R is 300 AGL. We used to not be able to land 10R in ILS critical conditions. That has changed as we now double back the Rwy 10R arrivals and cross Rwy 10C at BB when we are less than 800 and/or 2 miles.

Are the centerlines of 10C and 10R 4,300 feet apart so you can run true simultaneous approaches or do you have to stagger? BB crossings on 10C are beyond the GS critical area then?

ILikeTrains · Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:43 am

jetblastdubai wrote:
airstatdfw wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:

What are the WX minimums for landing 10C and 10R?

Rwy 10C is CAT II/III and Rwy 10R is 300 AGL. We used to not be able to land 10R in ILS critical conditions. That has changed as we now double back the Rwy 10R arrivals and cross Rwy 10C at BB when we are less than 800 and/or 2 miles.

Are the centerlines of 10C and 10R 4,300 feet apart so you can run true simultaneous approaches or do you have to stagger? BB crossings on 10C are beyond the GS critical area then?

10C and 10R are ~3100ft apart by centerlines.

airstatdfw · Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:26 am

jetblastdubai wrote:
airstatdfw wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:

What are the WX minimums for landing 10C and 10R?

Rwy 10C is CAT II/III and Rwy 10R is 300 AGL. We used to not be able to land 10R in ILS critical conditions. That has changed as we now double back the Rwy 10R arrivals and cross Rwy 10C at BB when we are less than 800 and/or 2 miles.

Are the centerlines of 10C and 10R 4,300 feet apart so you can run true simultaneous approaches or do you have to stagger? BB crossings on 10C are beyond the GS critical area then?

They would have to stagger. We have an offset PRM approach for Rwy 10R and a straight in PRM for Rwy 10C, so we don’t have to worry about the stagger. There is also a straight in approach for Rwy 10R but I have never seen it used. The straight in would be able to go down to CAT II/III. Yes, Twy BB is east of the GS critical area for Rwy 10C.

ORDLHR787 · Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:55 pm

Based upon prior estimates, T5 construction should be winding down. Anybody know when the grand opening will occur? Its supposed to be “early 2022.”

ORD3 · Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:01 pm

United787 wrote:
Greg Hinz of Crain's Chicago Business will be doing a webcast with Jamie Rhee, Commissioner, Chicago Dept. of Aviation on Thur 12/9 at 1pm (CST). I am anxious to get an update on the O'Hare 21 Project.

https://web.cvent.com/event/04a41c07-84 ... ote-Events

Were there any big updates from today's webcast with Jamie Rhee?

United787 · Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:05 pm

ORD3 wrote:
United787 wrote:
Greg Hinz of Crain's Chicago Business will be doing a webcast with Jamie Rhee, Commissioner, Chicago Dept. of Aviation on Thur 12/9 at 1pm (CST). I am anxious to get an update on the O'Hare 21 Project.

https://web.cvent.com/event/04a41c07-84 ... ote-Events

Were there any big updates from today's webcast with Jamie Rhee?

Thank you for the reminder, I didn't see it, anyone?

jagraham · Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:30 am

jplatts wrote:
Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of MDW in June 2021:
ABQ-MDW - 9366 passengers, 10349 seats, 90.50% load factor
ALB-MDW - 14281 passengers, 15695 seats, 90.99% load factor
ATL-MDW - 38839 passengers, 44394 seats, 87.49% load factor
AUS-MDW - 27148 passengers, 32097 seats, 84.58% load factor
BDL-MDW - 14459 passengers, 15791 seats, 91.56% load factor
BHM-MDW - 7602 passengers, 8646 seats, 87.93% load factor
BNA-MDW - 33627 passengers, 41221 seats, 81.58% load factor
BOI-MDW - 5729 passengers, 7664 seats, 74.75% load factor
BOS-MDW - 22467 passengers, 24002 seats, 93.60% load factor
BUF-MDW - 19773 passengers, 22866 seats, 86.47% load factor
BUR-MDW - 6375 passengers, 7677 seats, 83.04% load factor
BWI-MDW - 33929 passengers, 41763 seats, 81.24% load factor
BZN-MDW - 1497 passengers, 1716 seats, 87.24% load factor
CHS-MDW - 15337 passengers, 21328 seats, 71.91% load factor
CLE-MDW - 26879 passengers, 32385 seats, 83.00% load factor
CLT-MDW - 6682 passengers, 7978 seats, 83.76% load factor
CMH-MDW - 21473 passengers, 24495 seats, 87.66% load factor
COS-MDW - 12679 passengers, 15683 seats, 80.85% load factor
CVG-MDW - 13058 passengers, 16325 seats, 79.99% load factor
DAL-MDW - 48446 passengers, 55545 seats, 87.22% load factor
DCA-MDW - 24617 passengers, 28171 seats, 87.38% load factor
DEN-MDW - 56629 passengers, 66966 seats, 84.56% load factor
DTW-MDW - 22244 passengers, 25995 seats, 85.57% load factor
ECP-MDW - 5276 passengers, 9314 seats, 56.65% load factor
FLL-MDW - 29192 passengers, 34707 seats, 84.11% load factor
GEG-MDW - 4969 passengers, 5959 seats, 83.39% load factor
GRR-MDW - 15643 passengers, 21763 seats, 71.88% load factor
HOU-MDW - 41056 passengers, 45849 seats, 89.55% load factor
IAD-MDW - 18475 passengers, 23788 seats, 77.67% load factor
IAH-MDW - 15228 passengers, 17996 seats, 84.62% load factor
JAX-MDW - 8517 passengers, 9171 seats, 92.87% load factor
LAS-MDW - 67870 passengers, 73129 seats, 92.81% load factor
LAX-MDW - 31453 passengers, 34348 seats, 91.57% load factor
LGA-MDW - 22784 passengers, 24186 seats, 94.20% load factor
LGB-MDW - 7084 passengers, 8793 seats, 80.56% load factor
MCI-MDW - 31586 passengers, 35258 seats, 89.59% load factor
MCO-MDW - 63342 passengers, 70326 seats, 90.07% load factor
MDW-MEM - 12760 passengers, 14737 seats, 86.58% load factor
MDW-MHT - 12971 passengers, 15358 seats, 84.46% load factor
MDW-MIA - 18834 passengers, 24696 seats, 76.26% load factor
MDW-MSP - 30161 passengers, 35452 seats, 85.08% load factor
MDW-MSY - 22563 passengers, 25022 seats, 90.17% load factor
MDW-MYR - 11955 passengers, 17379 seats, 68.79% load factor
MDW-OAK - 22124 passengers, 24136 seats, 91.66% load factor
MDW-OKC - 8273 passengers, 9190 seats, 90.02% load factor
MDW-OMA - 24615 passengers, 27361 seats, 89.96% load factor
MDW-ONT - 6275 passengers, 6661 seats, 94.21% load factor
MDW-ORF - 8730 passengers, 9768 seats, 89.37% load factor
MDW-PDX - 16157 passengers, 17974 seats, 89.89% load factor
MDW-PHL - 22173 passengers, 24309 seats, 91.21% load factor
MDW-PHX - 62194 passengers, 67793 seats, 91.74% load factor
MDW-PIT - 21904 passengers, 25049 seats, 87.44% load factor
MDW-PNS - 4905 passengers, 7581 seats, 64.70% load factor
MDW-PVD - 14229 passengers, 15817 seats, 89.96% load factor
MDW-PWM - 6359 passengers, 7841 seats, 81.10% load factor
MDW-RDU - 17511 passengers, 19005 seats, 92.14% load factor
MDW-RIC - 10886 passengers, 15563 seats, 69.95% load factor
MDW-RNO - 7445 passengers, 8695 seats, 85.62% load factor
MDW-RSW - 35174 passengers, 42239 seats, 83.27% load factor
MDW-SAN - 29394 passengers, 32758 seats, 89.73% load factor
MDW-SAT - 8237 passengers, 9143 seats, 90.09% load factor
MDW-SAV - 6617 passengers, 9075 seats, 72.91% load factor
MDW-SDF - 20420 passengers, 24326 seats, 83.94% load factor
MDW-SEA - 16409 passengers, 18862 seats, 87.00% load factor
MDW-SFO - 8542 passengers, 9258 seats, 92.27% load factor
MDW-SJC - 13783 passengers, 14955 seats, 92.16% load factor
MDW-SJU - 6764 passengers, 8029 seats, 84.24% load factor
MDW-SLC - 20366 passengers, 26697 seats, 76.29% load factor
MDW-SMF - 17192 passengers, 18452 seats, 93.17% load factor
MDW-SNA - 7283 passengers, 8437 seats, 86.32% load factor
MDW-SRQ - 11124 passengers, 16336 seats, 68.10% load factor
MDW-STL - 29832 passengers, 36423 seats, 81.90% load factor
MDW-TPA - 46509 passengers, 53253 seats, 87.34% load factor
MDW-TUS - 7433 passengers, 8471 seats, 87.75% load factor
MDW-VPS - 4457 passengers, 7583 seats, 58.78% load factor

Those load factors are incredible!

schernov · Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:16 pm

So I was at ORD this morning. Went thru redone tunnel between cta and T3. Looks nice. Still leaks water from the ceiling like it always did for years.

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