ah414211 wrote:

JetBlue is launching BOI-JFK starting July 2, 2021! Looks like it's a red-eye operating 4 days a week. Planned to be seasonal service through the summer. Definitely wasn't expecting to see that one!!

https://www.iflyboise.com/press-room/me ... is-summer/

QXorVX wrote:

BOI-HNL was flown on Allegiant during their short lived point-to-point Hawaii flying outside their major markets. I think external factors other than demand contributed to that not working out in the long run. A flight a couple times a week would probably work, even if only during the peak season. The trick is finding an airline looking to do that it the correct fleet type. Really the 757 is probably the right fit, not sure if a B737NG could make it all the way from Boise.

Maybe this is the kind of market Frontier envisions flying with their A321XLR?

Wneast wrote:

Did anyone else see what Boise is wanting for future service, Boston, Honolulu, Orlando are top priorities with there new updates to their incentive program anyone see these getting added anytime soon by any of the airlines ?

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

Did anyone else see what Boise is wanting for future service, Boston, Honolulu, Orlando are top priorities with there new updates to their incentive program anyone see these getting added anytime soon by any of the airlines ?

I think it is really odd that they included Boston on that list, but not DC. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see direct service to Boston. I'm just not sure there is much demand for it. Add to it the fact that there wouldn't be much for connections, and it doesn't make sense to me. BWI on WN or IAD on UA would not only get you directly to the DC area, but both of those airports would offer decent connections (especially international destinations at IAD). Maybe BOI is just really hopeful they can get B6 to commit full-time to the airport.

Wneast wrote:

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

Did anyone else see what Boise is wanting for future service, Boston, Honolulu, Orlando are top priorities with there new updates to their incentive program anyone see these getting added anytime soon by any of the airlines ?

I think it is really odd that they included Boston on that list, but not DC. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see direct service to Boston. I'm just not sure there is much demand for it. Add to it the fact that there wouldn't be much for connections, and it doesn't make sense to me. BWI on WN or IAD on UA would not only get you directly to the DC area, but both of those airports would offer decent connections (especially international destinations at IAD). Maybe BOI is just really hopeful they can get B6 to commit full-time to the airport.

I really think a BWI flight on WN or IAD on United would work I believe there was 108 passengers a day before COVID I believe maybe with New York happening I would think that’s next or WN MCO could work seasonal but would they want to try it a long thin route ?

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

msp747 wrote:

I think it is really odd that they included Boston on that list, but not DC. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see direct service to Boston. I'm just not sure there is much demand for it. Add to it the fact that there wouldn't be much for connections, and it doesn't make sense to me. BWI on WN or IAD on UA would not only get you directly to the DC area, but both of those airports would offer decent connections (especially international destinations at IAD). Maybe BOI is just really hopeful they can get B6 to commit full-time to the airport.

I really think a BWI flight on WN or IAD on United would work I believe there was 108 passengers a day before COVID I believe maybe with New York happening I would think that’s next or WN MCO could work seasonal but would they want to try it a long thin route ?

Yeah, I'd prefer the IAD service, but that's only because Northern Virginia is where I used to live and is usually my destination when I go out there.

I wouldn't put it past WN to try seasonal service to MCO, especially since they seem to try those from time to time out of BOI (I know they did summer MDW, and I seem to remember HOU or DAL service on select days).

I feel like WN has tried so many strategies during their time in BOI, and I'm not sure they know what they want the station to be. First, they were basically a QX competitor, with regional service. Then they cut almost all of those flights, sticking to key "focus cities" like DEN, OAK, and PHX. Now I feel like they've grown their California presence, but a lot of those routes face competition from AS. Maybe I am not up to speed on their offerings, but I feel like other carriers have beefed up their presence in Boise, while WN has only shuffled their options, not really grown.

Wneast wrote:

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msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

I really think a BWI flight on WN or IAD on United would work I believe there was 108 passengers a day before COVID I believe maybe with New York happening I would think that’s next or WN MCO could work seasonal but would they want to try it a long thin route ?

Yeah, I'd prefer the IAD service, but that's only because Northern Virginia is where I used to live and is usually my destination when I go out there.

I wouldn't put it past WN to try seasonal service to MCO, especially since they seem to try those from time to time out of BOI (I know they did summer MDW, and I seem to remember HOU or DAL service on select days).

I feel like WN has tried so many strategies during their time in BOI, and I'm not sure they know what they want the station to be. First, they were basically a QX competitor, with regional service. Then they cut almost all of those flights, sticking to key "focus cities" like DEN, OAK, and PHX. Now I feel like they've grown their California presence, but a lot of those routes face competition from AS. Maybe I am not up to speed on their offerings, but I feel like other carriers have beefed up their presence in Boise, while WN has only shuffled their options, not really grown.

Yes I would really like WN to beef up BOI with flights to HOU and MCO I think they will for sure add back MDW and DAL, and there has been serious talk about them adding Hawaii which I hope will happen

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

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msp747 wrote:

Yeah, I'd prefer the IAD service, but that's only because Northern Virginia is where I used to live and is usually my destination when I go out there.

I wouldn't put it past WN to try seasonal service to MCO, especially since they seem to try those from time to time out of BOI (I know they did summer MDW, and I seem to remember HOU or DAL service on select days).

I feel like WN has tried so many strategies during their time in BOI, and I'm not sure they know what they want the station to be. First, they were basically a QX competitor, with regional service. Then they cut almost all of those flights, sticking to key "focus cities" like DEN, OAK, and PHX. Now I feel like they've grown their California presence, but a lot of those routes face competition from AS. Maybe I am not up to speed on their offerings, but I feel like other carriers have beefed up their presence in Boise, while WN has only shuffled their options, not really grown.

Yes I would really like WN to beef up BOI with flights to HOU and MCO I think they will for sure add back MDW and DAL, and there has been serious talk about them adding Hawaii which I hope will happen

I suppose it could be gate space that's holding them (and a lot of the other airlines) back. Concourse A can't happen soon enough, but I think it's at least 3 years away (aggressive timetable) and more likely at least 5 years out.

msp747 wrote:

I wouldn't put it past WN to try seasonal service to MCO, especially since they seem to try those from time to time out of BOI (I know they did summer MDW, and I seem to remember HOU or DAL service on select days).

Wneast wrote:

Does anyone know what the largest underserved routes are from BOI and does anyone how much room does each airline have to expand ?

OzarkD9S wrote:

Wneast wrote:

Does anyone know what the largest underserved routes are from BOI and does anyone how much room does each airline have to expand ?

Strictly from the perspective of WN potential service, I could see STL-BOI being added down the road, given the connection possibilities on the STL end. A daily flight would be a nice compliment/option to MDW and DEN, at least for connections.

Wneast wrote:

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OzarkD9S wrote:

Wneast wrote:

Does anyone know what the largest underserved routes are from BOI and does anyone how much room does each airline have to expand ?

Strictly from the perspective of WN potential service, I could see STL-BOI being added down the road, given the connection possibilities on the STL end. A daily flight would be a nice compliment/option to MDW and DEN, at least for connections.

I could see that does anyone know if they are using all there gate space ?

OzarkD9S wrote:

Wneast wrote:

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OzarkD9S wrote:

Strictly from the perspective of WN potential service, I could see STL-BOI being added down the road, given the connection possibilities on the STL end. A daily flight would be a nice compliment/option to MDW and DEN, at least for connections.

I could see that does anyone know if they are using all there gate space ?

Who and where?

Wneast wrote:

OzarkD9S wrote:

Wneast wrote:

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I could see that does anyone know if they are using all there gate space ?

Who and where?

WN at BOI ?

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

OzarkD9S wrote:

Who and where?

WN at BOI ?

Obviously it's been a while since I've flown, but it seems like a lot of the airlines are sharing space. I know WN has gates B15 and B17, but I'm pretty sure they use another at peak times (maybe B19, which AA also uses). Not sure who has B16 these days (old NW gate). I know UA runs a fair amount of flights out of B21, in addition to their traditional gates of B10/B11. DL has B20/B22, but I think they spill over into other gates during peak times. B14 doesn't seem to have a full-time tenant, but the waiting area has been shrunk so much that I'm sure it's the least desirable at the airport. I think only RJs can really use it now. I'm pretty sure G4 uses the C concourse with AS.

Wneast wrote:

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

WN at BOI ?

Obviously it's been a while since I've flown, but it seems like a lot of the airlines are sharing space. I know WN has gates B15 and B17, but I'm pretty sure they use another at peak times (maybe B19, which AA also uses). Not sure who has B16 these days (old NW gate). I know UA runs a fair amount of flights out of B21, in addition to their traditional gates of B10/B11. DL has B20/B22, but I think they spill over into other gates during peak times. B14 doesn't seem to have a full-time tenant, but the waiting area has been shrunk so much that I'm sure it's the least desirable at the airport. I think only RJs can really use it now. I'm pretty sure G4 uses the C concourse with AS.

Should be interesting what we see added in the fall to winter from any airline if any I would imagine will see some new routes then ?

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

msp747 wrote:

Obviously it's been a while since I've flown, but it seems like a lot of the airlines are sharing space. I know WN has gates B15 and B17, but I'm pretty sure they use another at peak times (maybe B19, which AA also uses). Not sure who has B16 these days (old NW gate). I know UA runs a fair amount of flights out of B21, in addition to their traditional gates of B10/B11. DL has B20/B22, but I think they spill over into other gates during peak times. B14 doesn't seem to have a full-time tenant, but the waiting area has been shrunk so much that I'm sure it's the least desirable at the airport. I think only RJs can really use it now. I'm pretty sure G4 uses the C concourse with AS.

Should be interesting what we see added in the fall to winter from any airline if any I would imagine will see some new routes then ?

I'm not sure, but my hope is that the new routes we've seen added lately stick long-term. I know BOI has capitalized on the outdoorsy vacation boom we've seen during the pandemic.

I actually tried to give some business to the new AS flight to ORD as a way to get to the east coast, but for some reason, the AS website wouldn't let me then connect to AA for the last leg. If I wanted to connect on AA, I had to first fly to SEA, then ORD, and then switch to AA. I wonder if it is because AA has its own BOI-ORD flight.

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

OzarkD9S wrote:

Who and where?

WN at BOI ?

Obviously it's been a while since I've flown, but it seems like a lot of the airlines are sharing space. I know WN has gates B15 and B17, but I'm pretty sure they use another at peak times (maybe B19, which AA also uses). Not sure who has B16 these days (old NW gate). I know UA runs a fair amount of flights out of B21, in addition to their traditional gates of B10/B11. DL has B20/B22, but I think they spill over into other gates during peak times. B14 doesn't seem to have a full-time tenant, but the waiting area has been shrunk so much that I'm sure it's the least desirable at the airport. I think only RJs can really use it now. I'm pretty sure G4 uses the C concourse with AS.

sprxUSA wrote:

msp747 wrote:

Wneast wrote:

WN at BOI ?

Obviously it's been a while since I've flown, but it seems like a lot of the airlines are sharing space. I know WN has gates B15 and B17, but I'm pretty sure they use another at peak times (maybe B19, which AA also uses). Not sure who has B16 these days (old NW gate). I know UA runs a fair amount of flights out of B21, in addition to their traditional gates of B10/B11. DL has B20/B22, but I think they spill over into other gates during peak times. B14 doesn't seem to have a full-time tenant, but the waiting area has been shrunk so much that I'm sure it's the least desirable at the airport. I think only RJs can really use it now. I'm pretty sure G4 uses the C concourse with AS.

B14- Primarily DL* but sometimes UA* when necessary or 10, 11 out of service. And yes CRJ ERJ only gate
B16- WN RON and G4 primary gate.
B19 AA sometimes G4 if need to move. G4 seems to get ousted around a bit due to not being a primary lessor on any gate it appears. Have seen them on 16, 19, some C gates....

LAXBUR wrote:

The airlines spread all over B and the numbering drive me crazy. During the day there’s plenty of room for WN to add a few flights. It is in early morning and evening when things get tight for everyone. Delta seems to operate in banks and that can sometimes cause a brief delay from past experiences. Alaska has the most consistent gate constraints and definitely needs a long term solution.

Wneast wrote:

LAXBUR wrote:

The airlines spread all over B and the numbering drive me crazy. During the day there’s plenty of room for WN to add a few flights. It is in early morning and evening when things get tight for everyone. Delta seems to operate in banks and that can sometimes cause a brief delay from past experiences. Alaska has the most consistent gate constraints and definitely needs a long term solution.

I’m really hopping that we see more WN adds in the fall and latter on , I’m seeing possible adds from them as HOU, MCO seasonal, DAL, MDW back and HNL I’m not sure of any others maybe STL later down the line and BWI if United doesn’t do Dulles

Wneast wrote:

Well the press release hasn’t come out but WN is starting BOI-MDW, DAL, SNA at all daily starting in June

Wneast wrote:

Well the press release hasn’t come out but WN is starting BOI-MDW, DAL, SNA at all daily starting in June

Wneast wrote:

Wneast wrote:

Well the press release hasn’t come out but WN is starting BOI-MDW, DAL, SNA at all daily starting in June

Anybody think Alaska will do anything?

LAXBUR wrote:

Wneast wrote:

Well the press release hasn’t come out but WN is starting BOI-MDW, DAL, SNA at all daily starting in June

Well no one has seen anything. I don’t know when WN’s next release is. Could you give us more info?

If factual, AS can only really respond to SNA.

oosnowrat wrote:

Now the University of Idaho wants to chip in for PUW-BOI flights on AS-QX.

https://dnews.com/ui-seeks-approval-to- ... b8050.html

msp747 wrote:

oosnowrat wrote:

Now the University of Idaho wants to chip in for PUW-BOI flights on AS-QX.

https://dnews.com/ui-seeks-approval-to- ... b8050.html

I know it's just one flight, but it is nice to see one of the intrastate routes return. Not sure if there's enough demand to see any of the other flights to BOI come back. The only route I can see with enough traffic would be IDA, but with it being a 3.5 to 4 hour drive, I'm not sure how much demand there is for flying. I'm guessing not enough for QX to break even, even with the Q400.

flyoregon wrote:

msp747 wrote:

oosnowrat wrote:

Now the University of Idaho wants to chip in for PUW-BOI flights on AS-QX.

https://dnews.com/ui-seeks-approval-to- ... b8050.html

I know it's just one flight, but it is nice to see one of the intrastate routes return. Not sure if there's enough demand to see any of the other flights to BOI come back. The only route I can see with enough traffic would be IDA, but with it being a 3.5 to 4 hour drive, I'm not sure how much demand there is for flying. I'm guessing not enough for QX to break even, even with the Q400.

If they timed it and priced it right with connections in Boise, IDA could probably work pretty well. Boise has way more destinations on AS than they ever did before, so I think it could work. Even at 3-4 hours, in the winter it can be a horrible drive, and in good weather, it’s still a long and lonely drive.

BoardMember wrote:

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/may/28/university-of-idaho-partnering-with-alaska-airline/#:~:text=The%20Idaho%20State%20Board%20of,Moscow%2DPullman%20and%20Boise%20airports.&text=The%20arrangement%20will%20%E2%80%9Chelp%20improve,Green%20said%20in%20a%20statement.

QXorVX wrote:

It is/will be a pretty big four weeks for the Idaho Falls Airport with new service to four destinations bringing the total to 11! Here is a quick breakdown for those that may not be following as closely. I am curious to know your thoughts about the sustainability of this service level and your thoughts in general about the current network and schedule. Personally it feels like a little more than I would expect the region to be able to carry, but I hope to be proven wrong.

May 28 -
IDA-PDX, service inaugurated on Allegiant (2x weekly A319/A320)

June 3 -
IDA-DFW, new service (~returning service) from American (daily CRJ7). Expanding to double daily July 3, this was announced at 1x daily. Good news!
IDA-PHX, new service from American (daily CRJ7)

June 17 -
IDA-SEA, returning service from Alaska/Horizon (daily Q400)

Current Service:
IDA-SLC, remains ~4 daily. Fleet type has slowly been improving to E175s/CRJ7s/CRJ9s
IDA-DEN, remains ~4 daily, bump to 5 daily during peak summer. Often flown by E175s/CRJ7s
IDA-LAS, remains 2 weekly
IDA-AZA, increase to 4 weekly in the summer from the standard 2 weekly
IDA-LAX, steady seasonal destination, 2 weekly
IDA-OAK, steady seasonal destination, 2 weekly
IDA-SAN, first non-COVID operation year. Will be 2 weekly until mid August.

Despite the buildup in the region, I am surprised to see IDA-MSP has not returned this year. In the past this was operated on a 2/3- weekly basis for Delta.

alohashirts wrote:

QXorVX wrote:

It is/will be a pretty big four weeks for the Idaho Falls Airport with new service to four destinations bringing the total to 11! Here is a quick breakdown for those that may not be following as closely. I am curious to know your thoughts about the sustainability of this service level and your thoughts in general about the current network and schedule. Personally it feels like a little more than I would expect the region to be able to carry, but I hope to be proven wrong.

May 28 -
IDA-PDX, service inaugurated on Allegiant (2x weekly A319/A320)

June 3 -
IDA-DFW, new service (~returning service) from American (daily CRJ7). Expanding to double daily July 3, this was announced at 1x daily. Good news!
IDA-PHX, new service from American (daily CRJ7)

June 17 -
IDA-SEA, returning service from Alaska/Horizon (daily Q400)

Current Service:
IDA-SLC, remains ~4 daily. Fleet type has slowly been improving to E175s/CRJ7s/CRJ9s
IDA-DEN, remains ~4 daily, bump to 5 daily during peak summer. Often flown by E175s/CRJ7s
IDA-LAS, remains 2 weekly
IDA-AZA, increase to 4 weekly in the summer from the standard 2 weekly
IDA-LAX, steady seasonal destination, 2 weekly
IDA-OAK, steady seasonal destination, 2 weekly
IDA-SAN, first non-COVID operation year. Will be 2 weekly until mid August.

Despite the buildup in the region, I am surprised to see IDA-MSP has not returned this year. In the past this was operated on a 2/3- weekly basis for Delta.

Does IDA have more than two jet bridges now?