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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:51 pm

Italia Trasporto Aereo to launch Rome - Miami service from March 1, 2022.

Initially will be 3 weekly then 5 weekly by April 1, 2022 and then will become daily by June 1, 2022.

A330.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:03 am

Miami wrote:
British Airways to resume A380 service to Miami from December 3, 2021.



This may be my one and only chance to ride and A380. Guess I should try and grab this flight - despite the crappy J class BA offers on it - and the sky-high taxes BA adds on for AA award redemption.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:40 pm

I noticed Silver Airways dropped service to PBI.I looked on travelocity and there is no airline service from PBI-TPA/MCO/JAX/NAS/FPO those are routes Silver could operate.For TPA and MCO is now in competition with Brightline trains.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:00 pm

Air France to increase Miami service from November 3, 2021 to 10 weekly with a Boeing 777-200ER operating the additional 3 weekly flights.

From December 15, 2021, service will be increased to 12 weekly. Airbus A350-900 will replace the Boeing 777-200ER on the 5 weekly flights.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:47 pm

Spirit Airlines Seeing Strong Bookings At MIA & Already Considering Expanding:
https://www.thenextmiami.com/spirit-air ... expanding/
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:54 pm

Viva Aerobus plans to launch weekly Cancun-Miami service on April 1, 2022.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:08 pm

Miami wrote:
Spirit Airlines Seeing Strong Bookings At MIA & Already Considering Expanding:
https://www.thenextmiami.com/spirit-air ... expanding/


In addition to further NK expansion out of MIA, there are a few more nonstop routes that WN could add MIA such as MIA-PHX/PVD/RDU/SJU/DCA.

PHX can likely support nonstop service on WN in addition to AA with PHX having previously had nonstop service out of MIA on HP in addition to AA prior to the HP-US merger. WN also already has significant FF bases in California, Nevada, Arizona, and South Florida to support MIA-PHX nonstop service on WN.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:28 pm

JSX launches service to MIA on November 18th. Five weekly flights (daily except Tuesday/Wednesday) each to Dallas-Love and White Plains.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:47 am

What’s going on with terminal F at MIA I’m not seeing that many departures from there couldn’t Spirit utilize some of those gates and if I remember correctly the terminal can support intl flights.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:50 pm

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of MIA, FLL, and PBI in July 2021:
ATL-MIA - 15326 passengers, 18312 seats, 83.69% load factor
AUS-MIA - 7862 passengers, 10402 seats, 75.58% load factor
BNA-MIA - 15004 passengers, 18756 seats, 80.00% load factor
BWI-MIA - 29666 passengers, 36127 seats, 82.12% load factor
CMH-MIA - 748 passengers, 1430 seats, 52.31% load factor
DAL-MIA - 14172 passengers, 16940 seats, 83.66% load factor
DEN-MIA - 15304 passengers, 18235 seats, 83.93% load factor
HOU-MIA - 28665 passengers, 35862 seats, 79.93% load factor
IND-MIA - 1051 passengers, 1718 seats, 61.18% load factor
MCI-MIA - 1165 passengers, 1430 seats, 81.47% load factor
MDW-MIA - 18751 passengers, 26318 seats, 71.25% load factor
MIA-MKE - 357 passengers, 1430 seats, 24.97% load factor
MIA-MSY - 6424 passengers, 7884 seats, 81.48% load factor
MIA-STL - 7531 passengers, 9139 seats, 82.41% load factor

ATL-FLL - 27125 passengers, 29999 seats, 90.42% load factor
AUS-FLL - 17129 passengers, 19534 seats, 87.69% load factor
BNA-FLL - 28448 passengers, 32652 seats, 87.12% load factor
BUF-FLL - 6399 passengers, 7521 seats, 85.08% load factor
BWI-FLL - 53561 passengers, 63513 seats, 84.33% load factor
CLE-FLL - 844 passengers, 1144 seats, 73.78% load factor
CMH-FLL - 9136 passengers, 11506 seats, 79.40% load factor
DAL-FLL - 26734 passengers, 30716 seats, 87.04% load factor
DCA-FLL - 7772 passengers, 8723 seats, 89.10% load factor
DEN-FLL - 15474 passengers, 17507 seats, 88.39% load factor
FLL-HOU - 25285 passengers, 28187 seats, 89.70% load factor
FLL-IND - 8136 passengers, 12477 seats, 65.21% load factor
FLL-ISP - 5167 passengers, 6093 seats, 84.80% load factor
FLL-MCI - 8479 passengers, 11512 seats, 73.65% load factor
FLL-MCO - 11656 passengers, 15877 seats, 73.41% load factor
FLL-MDW - 30640 passengers, 37281 seats, 82.19% load factor
FLL-MKE - 5025 passengers, 7882 seats, 63.75% load factor
FLL-MSY - 19877 passengers, 23955 seats, 82.98% load factor
FLL-ORD - 1746 passengers, 2574 seats, 67.83% load factor
FLL-PHL - 1412 passengers, 1573 seats, 89.76% load factor
FLL-PHX - 6531 passengers, 7282 seats, 89.69% load factor
FLL-PIT - 10859 passengers, 13774 seats, 78.84% load factor
FLL-RDU - 7925 passengers, 9019 seats, 87.87% load factor
FLL-SAT - 2499 passengers, 2862 seats, 87.32% load factor
FLL-SDF - 887 passengers, 1272 seats, 69.73% load factor
FLL-SJU - 19196 passengers, 20979 seats, 91.50% load factor
FLL-STL - 17889 passengers, 24234 seats, 73.82% load factor
FLL-TPA - 11736 passengers, 15100 seats, 77.72% load factor

ATL-PBI - 7107 passengers, 9090 seats, 78.18% load factor
BWI-PBI - 19157 passengers, 21057 seats, 90.98% load factor
ISP-PBI - 9152 passengers, 9779 seats, 93.59% load factor
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:22 pm

jplatts wrote:
Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of MIA, FLL, and PBI in July 2021:
ATL-MIA - 15326 passengers, 18312 seats, 83.69% load factor
AUS-MIA - 7862 passengers, 10402 seats, 75.58% load factor
BNA-MIA - 15004 passengers, 18756 seats, 80.00% load factor
BWI-MIA - 29666 passengers, 36127 seats, 82.12% load factor
CMH-MIA - 748 passengers, 1430 seats, 52.31% load factor
DAL-MIA - 14172 passengers, 16940 seats, 83.66% load factor
DEN-MIA - 15304 passengers, 18235 seats, 83.93% load factor
HOU-MIA - 28665 passengers, 35862 seats, 79.93% load factor
IND-MIA - 1051 passengers, 1718 seats, 61.18% load factor
MCI-MIA - 1165 passengers, 1430 seats, 81.47% load factor
MDW-MIA - 18751 passengers, 26318 seats, 71.25% load factor
MIA-MKE - 357 passengers, 1430 seats, 24.97% load factor
MIA-MSY - 6424 passengers, 7884 seats, 81.48% load factor
MIA-STL - 7531 passengers, 9139 seats, 82.41% load factor

ATL-FLL - 27125 passengers, 29999 seats, 90.42% load factor
AUS-FLL - 17129 passengers, 19534 seats, 87.69% load factor
BNA-FLL - 28448 passengers, 32652 seats, 87.12% load factor
BUF-FLL - 6399 passengers, 7521 seats, 85.08% load factor
BWI-FLL - 53561 passengers, 63513 seats, 84.33% load factor
CLE-FLL - 844 passengers, 1144 seats, 73.78% load factor
CMH-FLL - 9136 passengers, 11506 seats, 79.40% load factor
DAL-FLL - 26734 passengers, 30716 seats, 87.04% load factor
DCA-FLL - 7772 passengers, 8723 seats, 89.10% load factor
DEN-FLL - 15474 passengers, 17507 seats, 88.39% load factor
FLL-HOU - 25285 passengers, 28187 seats, 89.70% load factor
FLL-IND - 8136 passengers, 12477 seats, 65.21% load factor
FLL-ISP - 5167 passengers, 6093 seats, 84.80% load factor
FLL-MCI - 8479 passengers, 11512 seats, 73.65% load factor
FLL-MCO - 11656 passengers, 15877 seats, 73.41% load factor
FLL-MDW - 30640 passengers, 37281 seats, 82.19% load factor
FLL-MKE - 5025 passengers, 7882 seats, 63.75% load factor
FLL-MSY - 19877 passengers, 23955 seats, 82.98% load factor
FLL-ORD - 1746 passengers, 2574 seats, 67.83% load factor
FLL-PHL - 1412 passengers, 1573 seats, 89.76% load factor
FLL-PHX - 6531 passengers, 7282 seats, 89.69% load factor
FLL-PIT - 10859 passengers, 13774 seats, 78.84% load factor
FLL-RDU - 7925 passengers, 9019 seats, 87.87% load factor
FLL-SAT - 2499 passengers, 2862 seats, 87.32% load factor
FLL-SDF - 887 passengers, 1272 seats, 69.73% load factor
FLL-SJU - 19196 passengers, 20979 seats, 91.50% load factor
FLL-STL - 17889 passengers, 24234 seats, 73.82% load factor
FLL-TPA - 11736 passengers, 15100 seats, 77.72% load factor

ATL-PBI - 7107 passengers, 9090 seats, 78.18% load factor
BWI-PBI - 19157 passengers, 21057 seats, 90.98% load factor
ISP-PBI - 9152 passengers, 9779 seats, 93.59% load factor


Thanks for sharing!
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:23 pm

doug wrote:
What’s going on with terminal F at MIA I’m not seeing that many departures from there couldn’t Spirit utilize some of those gates and if I remember correctly the terminal can support intl flights.


It’s closed because they're doing an overhaul. Changing and fixing a lot of things.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:41 am

Miami was an absolute zoo when I flew out Sunday morning on an 8:30 AM flight on AA. Bag drop line extended all the way back to where the kiosks begin coming from the east. The regular TSA lines were as long as I've ever seen. Luckily I went nice and early so there was no stress but it was pretty insane. Worse than it seemed pre-COVID.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:40 pm

From watching YouTube airport walkthrough videos, I notice the gate E10 jetway is missing. This is also confirmed on Google Maps with the most recent historical view set. Anyone know if this jetway will be added back?

YouTube video (time marker 10:15-10:29)

Walkthrough Miami International Airport MIA Concourse E and Concourse D 11/18/20

Source: YouTube via user Pilot In Cmnd 1
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:42 pm

MIA has finally surpassed 2019’s (pre pandemic) numbers this week in terms of daily flights.Can’t wait until December when Spirit ,Frontier as well as Americans full winter schedule kicks in.Lot’s of intl flights should be coming back online as well.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:36 pm

Norse Atlantic (aka Norwegian Long Haul 2.0) will fly from FLL to Europe and make Fort Lauderdale its US HQ.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/f ... story.html
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:30 pm

Delta 14 at MIA is getting a tinted glass jetbridge. Here’s a picture of the construction site, with my tractor for scale:

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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:05 pm

doulasc wrote:
I noticed Silver Airways dropped service to PBI.I looked on travelocity and there is no airline service from PBI-TPA/MCO/JAX/NAS/FPO those are routes Silver could operate.For TPA and MCO is now in competition with Brightline trains.


This is surprising but Silver's FLL/MCO/TPA routes tend to have fair amount of feed from UA or B6. PBI just doesn't offer the connections FLL/MCO/TPA do so if down to O&D traffic exclusively it's much tougher to make a go of it.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:10 pm

lpdal wrote:
Delta 14 at MIA is getting a tinted glass jetbridge. Here’s a picture of the construction site, with my tractor for scale:

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Awesome! Love it.

Hopefully MIA adds more.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:49 am

Per Crankyflier, Royal Air Maroc has pushed up the restart date for CMN-MIA to December. This was previously supposed to restart in May 2022.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:36 pm

lpdal wrote:
Delta 14 at MIA is getting a tinted glass jetbridge. Here’s a picture of the construction site, with my tractor for scale:

Image

It looks cool but why are they doing this? It's got to be more expensive and also hotter unless it is really dark tint that filters IR very well.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:41 am

Air Transat will now operate to both Fort Lauderdale and Miami year-round. During the summer, MIA will be served from Montreal and FLL will be served from Quebec City.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:25 am

Alaska Airlines to start Miami from Seattle on June 16, 2022.
Daily, 737-900.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:03 pm

Miami wrote:
Alaska Airlines to start Miami from Seattle on June 16, 2022.
Daily, 737-900.

Glad to see them return to MIA. Hopefully they add at least everything they fly to FLL and fingers crossed for more.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:50 pm

lpdal wrote:
Delta 14 at MIA is getting a tinted glass jetbridge. Here’s a picture of the construction site, with my tractor for scale:

Image


planecane wrote:
It looks cool but why are they doing this? It's got to be more expensive and also hotter unless it is really dark tint that filters IR very well.


Miami wrote:
Awesome! Love it.

Hopefully MIA adds more.


Do we know if this is something the MDAA is trying out, with the intent to replace all jetways with glass jetways?
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:07 pm

Brickell305 wrote:
Miami wrote:
Alaska Airlines to start Miami from Seattle on June 16, 2022.
Daily, 737-900.

Glad to see them return to MIA. Hopefully they add at least everything they fly to FLL and fingers crossed for more.

Anyone else notice how it’s Flight 305? 8-)
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:22 am

phatfarmlines wrote:
lpdal wrote:
Delta 14 at MIA is getting a tinted glass jetbridge. Here’s a picture of the construction site, with my tractor for scale:

Image


planecane wrote:
It looks cool but why are they doing this? It's got to be more expensive and also hotter unless it is really dark tint that filters IR very well.


Miami wrote:
Awesome! Love it.

Hopefully MIA adds more.


Do we know if this is something the MDAA is trying out, with the intent to replace all jetways with glass jetways?


It’s MDAD not MDAA, and given they are replacing other jet bridges with new regular (IE-non-glass) ones, probably.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:00 am

WNflyer1523 wrote:
Brickell305 wrote:
Miami wrote:
Alaska Airlines to start Miami from Seattle on June 16, 2022.
Daily, 737-900.

Glad to see them return to MIA. Hopefully they add at least everything they fly to FLL and fingers crossed for more.

Anyone else notice how it’s Flight 305? 8-)

Thanks for pointing that out.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:28 pm

Spirit will add seasonal Miami-Minneapolis service on January 6th.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:44 pm

Caribbean Airlines plans to resume service on Kingston-Fort Lauderdale from December 7, 2021. 2 weekly.

Port of Spain-Fort Lauderdale from December 12, 2021. 2 weekly.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:14 pm

Aer Lingus is looking into resuming Miami from Summer 2022.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/tra ... -1.4722913
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:40 am

Air Canada (mainline) to resume Miami service from February 18, 2022.

2x daily on a 787-9.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:48 am

Sunwing to resume Miami service from Toronto on January 22, 2022. One weekly.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:09 pm

Miami Now Has The Fastest Growing Airport In America.
https://www.thenextmiami.com/miami-now- ... n-america/
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:10 pm

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of FLL in August 2021:
ATL-FLL - 22873 passengers, 29425 seats, 77.73% load factor
AUS-FLL - 11837 passengers, 18642 seats, 63.50% load factor
BNA-FLL - 21844 passengers, 32238 seats, 67.76% load factor
BUF-FLL - 5721 passengers, 6853 seats, 83.48% load factor
BWI-FLL - 48122 passengers, 60365 seats, 79.72% load factor
CLE-FLL - 990 passengers, 1287 seats, 76.92% load factor
CMH-FLL - 7724 passengers, 11745 seats, 65.76% load factor
DAL-FLL - 19438 passengers, 28919 seats, 67.22% load factor
DCA-FLL - 7142 passengers, 8580 seats, 83.24% load factor
DEN-FLL - 12394 passengers, 17411 seats, 71.18% load factor
FLL-HOU - 20046 passengers, 28584 seats, 70.13% load factor
FLL-IND - 5498 passengers, 11062 seats, 49.70% load factor
FLL-ISP - 4726 passengers, 5918 seats, 79.86% load factor
FLL-MCI - 6320 passengers, 10716 seats, 58.98% load factor
FLL-MCO - 9797 passengers, 16338 seats, 59.96% load factor
FLL-MDW - 26026 passengers, 34323 seats, 75.83% load factor
FLL-MKE - 3935 passengers, 7596 seats, 51.80% load factor
FLL-MSY - 13885 passengers, 21046 seats, 65.97% load factor
FLL-ORD - 1561 passengers, 2574 seats, 60.64% load factor
FLL-PHL - 1209 passengers, 1287 seats, 93.94% load factor
FLL-PHX - 5282 passengers, 6932 seats, 76.20% load factor
FLL-PIT - 9147 passengers, 13217 seats, 69.21% load factor
FLL-RDU - 6950 passengers, 9019 seats, 77.06% load factor
FLL-SAT - 1800 passengers, 2687 seats, 66.99% load factor
FLL-SDF - 884 passengers, 1590 seats, 55.60% load factor
FLL-SJU - 17948 passengers, 20740 seats, 86.54% load factor
FLL-STL - 13802 passengers, 23406 seats, 58.97% load factor
FLL-TPA - 10542 passengers, 15386 seats, 68.52% load factor
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:10 pm

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of MIA in August 2021:
ATL-MIA - 12863 passengers, 18248 seats, 70.49% load factor
AUS-MIA - 6096 passengers, 10195 seats, 59.79% load factor
BNA-MIA - 11003 passengers, 17738 seats, 62.03% load factor
BWI-MIA - 27034 passengers, 35412 seats, 76.34% load factor
CMH-MIA - 486 passengers, 1144 seats, 42.48% load factor
DAL-MIA - 11412 passengers, 16718 seats, 68.26% load factor
DEN-MIA - 12359 passengers, 18346 seats, 67.37% load factor
HOU-MIA - 20606 passengers, 34146 seats, 60.35% load factor
IND-MIA - 345 passengers, 1400 seats, 24.64% load factor
MCI-MIA - 614 passengers, 1144 seats, 53.67% load factor
MDW-MIA - 16149 passengers, 25571 seats, 63.15% load factor
MIA-MKE - 191 passengers, 1001 seats, 19.08% load factor
MIA-MSY - 4559 passengers, 7216 seats, 63.18% load factor
MIA-STL - 5936 passengers, 8853 seats, 67.05% load factor
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:11 pm

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of PBI in August 2021:
ATL-PBI - 5270 passengers, 9186 seats, 57.37% load factor
BWI-PBI - 17283 passengers, 19849 seats, 87.07% load factor
ISP-PBI - 8692 passengers, 9350 seats, 92.96% load factor
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:25 am

UA adding FLL-LAS during CES in January

https://www.united.com/en/us/newsroom/a ... r-ces-2022

This is a pretty smart use of frames sitting around I suppose. DL used to run special flights for CES, not sure if they do anymore though.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:25 pm

Turkish will add an additional four weekly flights to Miami effective March 27th, for double daily service. The additional frequencies will be on their IST-MIA redeye flight, the only redeye flight that operates westbound from Europe to the United States. Leaves Istanbul at 1.15am and arrives in Miami at 6.10am. Operates with a 787-9.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
Turkish will add an additional four weekly flights to Miami effective March 27th, for double daily service. The additional frequencies will be on their IST-MIA redeye flight, the only redeye flight that operates westbound from Europe to the United States. Leaves Istanbul at 1.15am and arrives in Miami at 6.10am. Operates with a 787-9.

Prior to that, TK will go 2x daily between December 8th and January 31st.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:25 am

F9 is returning to FLL with a roster of destination I believe are also served from MIA.

Retaliation against NK for entering MIA?

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/f ... story.html
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:49 pm

MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:
F9 is returning to FLL with a roster of destination I believe are also served from MIA.

Retaliation against NK for entering MIA?

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/f ... story.html

Whether it's retaliation or not, I think this move makes sense for F9. When AS returned to MIA, F9 was the odd man out among all domestic airlines (except G4 and 3M) by not serving both airports. The legacies and other LCCs have proven that there is sufficient traffic to both airports to support split ops so it was time for F9 to restart FLL.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:21 pm

British Airways resumes A380 service to MIA today.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:15 pm

Breeze launching PBI with 6 cities, Saturday only for now.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/new ... 859258002/
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:18 pm

Allegiant launching Fort Lauderdale-Appleton Wisconsin service.

https://www.postcrescent.com/story/mone ... 415634001/

Appears retaliation for F9 announcing FLL-GRB last week.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:29 pm

Brickell305 wrote:
MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:
F9 is returning to FLL with a roster of destination I believe are also served from MIA.

Retaliation against NK for entering MIA?

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/f ... story.html

Whether it's retaliation or not, I think this move makes sense for F9. When AS returned to MIA, F9 was the odd man out among all domestic airlines (except G4 and 3M) by not serving both airports. The legacies and other LCCs have proven that there is sufficient traffic to both airports to support split ops so it was time for F9 to restart FLL.


It appears per the F9 website some of these destinations are being moved from MIA while some are being flow from both.

Looks like ALB, BUF, PWM, ROC and SWF are being moved from MIA to FLL in mid-February.

The other FLL destinations will continue to be served from MIA.And of course a large roster of destinations from MIA not served from FLL on F9.

So this is a bit interesting, they're doing the usual Frontier dartboard thing. Is this a case of bookings being lower than expected from MIA, so shift them to FLL before cutting them outright? Maybe better than just slashing them. In any event it's interesting.
 
skybird77
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:23 pm

I haven’t posted here in a while, but I just wanted to say as a Miami-Dade resident who lives not too far from MIA, how happy I am with what has transpired from late 2020 to now. First it was the arrival of WN, then B6 (I thought wow!), the increase in flights for F9, but the big one (for me at least) was that NK started (I really thought the ship had sailed on NK coming when there were rumors of it a few years back, but they back tracked). Add to the mix EK moving from FLL to MIA and now AS coming back. I do get a smirk thinking of those MIA haters and naysayers who thought we would never have WN, B6, NK, etc.

Also, another great thing about MIA is the variety of classics. Where else are you going to see almost daily freight operations of CV-580/5800’s, DC-8-73’s, and 727-200’s (at least up to a few weeks ago for the 727’s). If you are a 737MAX fan (I’m sure there are some out there) this is the place to be. You also get to see both A350-900/1000, 747-8, 787-8/9, and from what has been posted, the return of the A380. Lot’s to be happy about!
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:31 pm

skybird77 wrote:
I haven’t posted here in a while, but I just wanted to say as a Miami-Dade resident who lives not too far from MIA, how happy I am with what has transpired from late 2020 to now. First it was the arrival of WN, then B6 (I thought wow!), the increase in flights for F9, but the big one (for me at least) was that NK started (I really thought the ship had sailed on NK coming when there were rumors of it a few years back, but they back tracked). Add to the mix EK moving from FLL to MIA and now AS coming back. I do get a smirk thinking of those MIA haters and naysayers who thought we would never have WN, B6, NK, etc.


I recently asked if DL was likely to re-add MIA-CVG/LAX nonstop service, if UA was likely to re-add MIA-CLE nonstop service, and if UA was likely to add MIA-LAX nonstop service in a discussion at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1467101 with the recent adds that AA, AS, F9, B6, WN, and NK have made out of MIA.
 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:42 pm

 
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Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:13 pm

jplatts wrote:
skybird77 wrote:
I haven’t posted here in a while, but I just wanted to say as a Miami-Dade resident who lives not too far from MIA, how happy I am with what has transpired from late 2020 to now. First it was the arrival of WN, then B6 (I thought wow!), the increase in flights for F9, but the big one (for me at least) was that NK started (I really thought the ship had sailed on NK coming when there were rumors of it a few years back, but they back tracked). Add to the mix EK moving from FLL to MIA and now AS coming back. I do get a smirk thinking of those MIA haters and naysayers who thought we would never have WN, B6, NK, etc.


I recently asked if DL was likely to re-add MIA-CVG/LAX nonstop service, if UA was likely to re-add MIA-CLE nonstop service, and if UA was likely to add MIA-LAX nonstop service in a discussion at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1467101 with the recent adds that AA, AS, F9, B6, WN, and NK have made out of MIA.


It's been at least a decade since DL flew MIA-CVG. Somehow, DL FLL-CVG has persisted even with no feed on either end. I don't recall UA flying MIA-CLE recently either, FLL-CLE again a strange route that hung around even after the dehubbing of CLE by UA. Was seasonal for many years but now is year-round.

Maybe FLL just has better O&D numbers to Ohio?

DL should re-add MIA-LAX. The decision to restart FLL-LAX was bizarre, with the competition on that route. The LATAM code-sharing agreement makes it a logical add.
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