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MAH4546 wrote:Frontier is adding another two Miami routes.
Twice a week to St. Thomas from March 7th.
Twice a week to Punta Cana from March 8th.
Losing track of how many routes that is. I think coming close to 30 or so by April.
Miami wrote:TUI Airlines Belgium plans to launch Brussels-Miami service with Boeing 787-8 from April 3, 2021.
MAH4546 wrote:Southwest will replace the three daily Miami-Tampa flights with one daily to Dallas Love and two daily to Atlanta.
Brickell305 wrote:MAH4546 wrote:Southwest will replace the three daily Miami-Tampa flights with one daily to Dallas Love and two daily to Atlanta.
Sad to see Tampa go completely but very great additions of ATL and DAL.
MAH4546 wrote:Southwest will replace the three daily Miami-Tampa flights with one daily to Dallas Love and two daily to Atlanta.
Miami wrote:Air France intends to resume Miami – Port-au-Prince service on June 21, 2021. 3 weekly, A320.
tphuang wrote:MIA-TPA never made sense to me. The new adds make a lot more sense.
DCA350 wrote:Just Booked a flight on AA to MDE on 4/7. Regularly fly this route and it's always on a 737 or A319. Was stunned to see a 788 on the schedule for this date. Glitch or AA has started to rotate 787s on Short Haul International routes?
MAH4546 wrote:DCA350 wrote:Just Booked a flight on AA to MDE on 4/7. Regularly fly this route and it's always on a 737 or A319. Was stunned to see a 788 on the schedule for this date. Glitch or AA has started to rotate 787s on Short Haul International routes?
It’s not a glitch. Also using 787s to Cali.
MAH4546 wrote:DCA350 wrote:Just Booked a flight on AA to MDE on 4/7. Regularly fly this route and it's always on a 737 or A319. Was stunned to see a 788 on the schedule for this date. Glitch or AA has started to rotate 787s on Short Haul International routes?
It’s not a glitch. Also using 787s to Cali.
Miami wrote:JetBlue to launch daily Miami-Hartford service in June: http://blueir.investproductions.com/inv ... -150024055
ContinentalEWR wrote:Wonder of the B6 additions, help blunt DL's aspirations in MIA? The LATAM partnership is there, but all the adds may trigger a pullback in DL's ambitions as yields for them may end up being diluted. I am not counting DL out. It's a much smarter c-suite and a better run airline on a number of fronts over AA, B6, and WN, but DL is seeing its ambitions under assault in a lot of places right now. So, I think AA doesn't really care about B6 adding more in MIA, as for now, it may help it.
Miami wrote:ContinentalEWR wrote:Wonder of the B6 additions, help blunt DL's aspirations in MIA? The LATAM partnership is there, but all the adds may trigger a pullback in DL's ambitions as yields for them may end up being diluted. I am not counting DL out. It's a much smarter c-suite and a better run airline on a number of fronts over AA, B6, and WN, but DL is seeing its ambitions under assault in a lot of places right now. So, I think AA doesn't really care about B6 adding more in MIA, as for now, it may help it.
AA and JetBlue are partners. AA doesn’t care and actually supports an expansion into MIA. LATAM and Delta are also partners and LATAM is still hoping for Delta to expand into MIA. However, there’s no question that Delta will turn MIA into a likely focus city and if it’s not, it’ll be damn close to one. Plans may be on hold for now but once things start looking better, don’t be surprised to see Delta announce a fair amount of routes from MIA.
ContinentalEWR wrote:Miami wrote:ContinentalEWR wrote:Wonder of the B6 additions, help blunt DL's aspirations in MIA? The LATAM partnership is there, but all the adds may trigger a pullback in DL's ambitions as yields for them may end up being diluted. I am not counting DL out. It's a much smarter c-suite and a better run airline on a number of fronts over AA, B6, and WN, but DL is seeing its ambitions under assault in a lot of places right now. So, I think AA doesn't really care about B6 adding more in MIA, as for now, it may help it.
AA and JetBlue are partners. AA doesn’t care and actually supports an expansion into MIA. LATAM and Delta are also partners and LATAM is still hoping for Delta to expand into MIA. However, there’s no question that Delta will turn MIA into a likely focus city and if it’s not, it’ll be damn close to one. Plans may be on hold for now but once things start looking better, don’t be surprised to see Delta announce a fair amount of routes from MIA.
Which is exactly what I just said.
MAH4546 wrote:
I have reliably been hearing an Alaska Airlines return is imminent. From Seattle and possible Los Angeles.
MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:Irony of my last post being I thought that NK would abandon FLL completely for MIA a few years ago and fight a one front war as a ULCC against a legacy network carrier in AA rather than fighting two LCCs at FLL. As of now it appears fighting the LCC's in FLL was the right call and they chased the other ULCC completely to MIA and are chasing the LCC's down there now also. Have to give Spirit credit, at least in south Florida they've been doing something right.
tphuang wrote:MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:Irony of my last post being I thought that NK would abandon FLL completely for MIA a few years ago and fight a one front war as a ULCC against a legacy network carrier in AA rather than fighting two LCCs at FLL. As of now it appears fighting the LCC's in FLL was the right call and they chased the other ULCC completely to MIA and are chasing the LCC's down there now also. Have to give Spirit credit, at least in south Florida they've been doing something right.
If you take a look at yesterday, NK was at 86 flights, B6 at 68 flights and WN at 49 flights. That doesn't mean it will remain this way forever, but it sure looks like NK is taking this opportunity to gain strength. Long term, I don't see what FLL offers to WN more than MIA. I expect the flight count to FLL & MIA grow a lot closer for WN. Those northeast flights to FLL were always poor performers for WN. Their FLL operation were basically supported by good performance to middle of the country where it faced no direct competition. With NK in these markets now, WN won't really have many easy routes left. So I expect them to pull out of even more FLL markets and add more to MIA.
I don't expect B6 to go anywhere even if the MIA additions have been a huge success. A lot of their recent changes with BE fare class probably had NK in mind. Right now, their focus is basically NY/NJ. there is not much they can do at FLL until probably second half of next year. So at least for the next couple of years, I expect NK to have the most flights out of FLL. NK will certainly be serving the most destinations. They have all the large and medium markets covered now. Long term, who knows. What is the gate situation like at FLL? How many gates do they have? That would probably be the limitation to how much NK can grow at FLL. I would imagine WN will sublease some of its gates if it decides that FLL is no longer its Latam gateway.
ContinentalEWR wrote:tphuang wrote:MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:Irony of my last post being I thought that NK would abandon FLL completely for MIA a few years ago and fight a one front war as a ULCC against a legacy network carrier in AA rather than fighting two LCCs at FLL. As of now it appears fighting the LCC's in FLL was the right call and they chased the other ULCC completely to MIA and are chasing the LCC's down there now also. Have to give Spirit credit, at least in south Florida they've been doing something right.
If you take a look at yesterday, NK was at 86 flights, B6 at 68 flights and WN at 49 flights. That doesn't mean it will remain this way forever, but it sure looks like NK is taking this opportunity to gain strength. Long term, I don't see what FLL offers to WN more than MIA. I expect the flight count to FLL & MIA grow a lot closer for WN. Those northeast flights to FLL were always poor performers for WN. Their FLL operation were basically supported by good performance to middle of the country where it faced no direct competition. With NK in these markets now, WN won't really have many easy routes left. So I expect them to pull out of even more FLL markets and add more to MIA.
I don't expect B6 to go anywhere even if the MIA additions have been a huge success. A lot of their recent changes with BE fare class probably had NK in mind. Right now, their focus is basically NY/NJ. there is not much they can do at FLL until probably second half of next year. So at least for the next couple of years, I expect NK to have the most flights out of FLL. NK will certainly be serving the most destinations. They have all the large and medium markets covered now. Long term, who knows. What is the gate situation like at FLL? How many gates do they have? That would probably be the limitation to how much NK can grow at FLL. I would imagine WN will sublease some of its gates if it decides that FLL is no longer its Latam gateway.
FLL a WN to LATAM gateway? Huh? SJO, MBJ, CUN and SJU are the only destinations in the Caribbean and Central America that WN serves from FLL and pretty sure WN doesn't consider it a "LATAM" gateway. They fly to 40+ destinations out of FLL when you include seasonal services. They're pretty big at FLL like everyone else. Not sure what your point is.
MAH4546 wrote:And the expansion of Southwest continues. Daily to St. Louis starts on May 9th.
American will add mainline on a bunch of routes that historically have been Eagle. This includes Cleveland, Indianapolis, Memphis, Pittsburgh and Richmond. Maybe others?
In response to jetBlue, American will triple capacity between Miami and Hartford from daily to thrice daily starting June 6th.
And Eastern will begin Miami-Montevideo on June 3rd, operating 4x a week.
I have reliably been hearing an Alaska Airlines return is imminent. From Seattle and possible Los Angeles.
Brickell305 wrote:
Miami wrote:Avianca to resume San Jose (Costa Rica) – Miami from July 1, 2021. 1 daily, Airbus A320.
This route was last served until January 2014