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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:46 am

Ishrion wrote:
New statement on these routes:

”In early January, we announced service on 21 new routes, including three new cities. Preliminary booking trends on those routes have exceeded our expectations.“


https://ir.allegiantair.com/news-releas ... -year-2020


Well they sure aren't going to say 'the route is selling poorly'. That comes when they abandon it lol.
I know some routes that have been told as doing better than expected that are very far from it. Unless expected was very very poorly haha.
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Re: Allegiant Flying Orlando to Montreal

Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:40 am

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[One big difference between G4 and WN is that there are some U.S. airports served by G4 such as BLI, GFK, OGS, and PBG that are closer to major Canadian cities such as Vancouver (BC), Winnipeg, Ottawa, and Winnipeg than airports with WN service. There is less need for G4 to serve YVR, YWG, YOW, or YUL with G4 serving BLI, GFK, OGS, and PBG.

On the other hand, It might make sense for WN to add service to Canadian cities once demand recovers such as YUL, YVR, YYC, YEG, and YOW with YUL, YVR, YYC, YEG, and YOW being far enough from any U.S. airports that are served by WN.


That goes back to why I said earlier that ULCCs like G4 are also operating a secondary airport strategy along with the avoiding international fees. Airports like BLI and IAG are close enough to the main Canadian city to be considered a secondary airport even though the airport is across the border. G4 is at PIE not TPA; opened PGD instead of going to RSW; etc.

G4 is able to pull Canadians across the border for lower fares (and no international travel fees) to a smaller secondary airport. Apparently they are able to sell to many Canadians with that strategy.
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Re: Allegiant Flying Orlando to Montreal

Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:04 am

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I'd guess that a Sun Country aircraft in Istanbul is actually in the process of moving from a Turkish (or nearby) carrier to Sun Country. Their most recent acquisitions have come from Neos (Italy) and FlyDubai, and they do have five former THY 737-800s too.


These aircraft arrived at SCX almost a year ago if not longer. Nothing is scheduled as far as I know this year, 2021
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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:01 am

From the earnings call:

Aircraft Fleet Plan by End of Quarter

Aircraft - (seats per AC)

YE20 1Q21 2Q21 3Q21 YE21
A319 (156 seats) 34 35 35 35 35

A320 (177 seats) 25 27 23 20 19

A320 (186 seats) 36 39 47 53 54

Total 95 101 105 108 108

So it looks like they’ll retire one more 319 this year, but begin a fairly rapid draw-down of the 177 seat 320s, as well as an aggressive ramp-up of 186-seat A320s.
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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:01 am

As I recall, A320 N235NV and above have 186 seats, which is their stated intent for a standardized fleet.
 
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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:24 am

This might have been touched on in the past but do we think G4 has any appetite for A321s?

Maybe get back to hawaii?

Or are one/both those ideas pretty much non starters?
 
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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:46 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
This might have been touched on in the past but do we think G4 has any appetite for A321s?

Maybe get back to hawaii?

Or are one/both those ideas pretty much non starters?

At this time no I don’t think so. The A321 in Allegiant’s configuration is a lot of seats, I think they prefer the A320 size at this time especially as it makes it easier to rotate the planes around and use on smaller markets


Hawaii was such a disaster that there is probably little appetite to go back anytime soon, especially since the competitive scene has gotten worse since G4 left, not better (WN in market now). In any event a A321ceo in G4’s configuration probably wouldn’t make it Hawaii anyways.
 
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Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:49 am

It looks like Allegiant is adding some new routes tomorrow including additions at the new stations from a few weeks ago.

Now showing up on the route map: https://www.allegiantair.com/interactive-routemap

- EYW-CVG
- PDX-GRR/MSO/BIL/DSM
- RAP-ATW/PGD/GRR/IND/TYS/LAX/BNA/PIA/PIT
- ATW-SAV

There's likely more out there. Expect a press release on February 9.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:53 am

Huge expansion at RAP, wow. Didn't expect that. Also wouldn't have seen PDX-GRR coming
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:54 am

Also showing AVL-VPS.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:56 am

XNA-AUS begins in July
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:57 am

Yes! PSM-BNA, BOS-IND, BOS-ORF, and extending PSM-MYR!
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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:58 am

Significant new route announcements for tomorrow being discussed at this thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457587
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:59 am

HOU-LEX, HOU-DSM,
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:00 am

SAV-ALB/PVD

BZN-OAK/AUS/SAN
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:01 am

AVENSAB727 wrote:
HOU-LEX, HOU-DSM, HOU-Knoxville, Branson


That's really Springfield(SGF)MO
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:04 am

RAP-GRR? Seriously? Seasonally at 2x weekly?
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:06 am

LIT-PIE seems to be new
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:10 am

SAN-DSM, FCA, PSC, BZN and AZA are all new.
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:13 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
RAP-GRR? Seriously? Seasonally at 2x weekly?


And RAP-ATW? I'll bite, what is the big deal with growing RAP?
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:13 am

Ishrion wrote:
- RAP-ATW/PGD/GRR/IND/TYS/LAX/BNA/PIA/PIT


RAP-PIA/ATW!!!!! Is it April fools yet?

This is by far the craziest route expansion I think I have ever seen, and this is coming from someone who loves the Rapid City area!

Good luck to them!
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:13 am

Too bad no BOS-RAP. That would be a good summer route for Mt. Rushmore/Deadwood/Crazy Horse tours.
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:15 am

DSM expansion with the new base

- MDW/MEM and as mentioned above, PDX/SAN
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:19 am

Ishrion wrote:
DSM expansion with the new base

- MDW/MEM and as mentioned above, PDX/SAN


As well as DSM-HOU (edit: I just saw this was mentioned above). I'll believe MDW/MEM when they actually happen. They have been showing on the route map ever since last year when they were first announced, but they were canceled before they started. I feel like G4 forgot to update the route map.

The new crew base opens July 1, the same day most of these new routes start.
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 am

AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Also showing AVL-VPS.

Honestly, I’m surprised it took them this long to add this route given the success of both markets.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:23 am

Ishrion wrote:
DSM expansion with the new base

- MDW/MEM and as mentioned above, PDX/SAN


I don’t think DSM-MDW is new

Looks like we are talking about a significant amount of routes at this point, seeing new routes from IND, AUS, BNA, LAX, MFE, etc
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 am

Midwestindy wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
DSM expansion with the new base

- MDW/MEM and as mentioned above, PDX/SAN


I don’t think DSM-MDW is new

Looks like we are talking about a significant amount of routes at this point, seeing new routes from IND, AUS, BNA, LAX, MFE, etc


dbo861 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
DSM expansion with the new base

- MDW/MEM and as mentioned above, PDX/SAN


As well as DSM-HOU (edit: I just saw this was mentioned above). I'll believe MDW/MEM when they actually happen. They have been showing on the route map ever since last year when they were first announced, but they were canceled before they started. I feel like G4 forgot to update the route map.

The new crew base opens July 1, the same day most of these new routes start.


Thanks. It looks like DSM-MEM/MDW aren't actually bookable and they're not showing up on https://www.allegiantair.com/airports/ while these other new routes are.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:38 am

Still no BHM... sigh.....
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:41 am

Cboyle wrote:
Yes! PSM-BNA, BOS-IND, BOS-ORF, and extending PSM-MYR!


One day an airline will dig deep enough into the number to see that ORF might be the most PVD-weighted non-florida market of the combined PVD/BOS market thanks to the naval connection. I honestly think an airline like G4 would do better on PVD-ORF than BOS-ORF, who knows maybe Breeze will come in with a PVD-PHF.
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:41 am

ALB-BNA is new!
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:52 am

I wonder if Allegiant plans to eventually make PDX a base? They've added a lot of cities in such a short amount of time..........
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:53 am

There are a few more nonstop routes that could be added out of FLL by G4 such as FLL-DSM/DAY/OKC/OMA with DSM, DAY, OKC, and OMA currently lacking any nonstop service from FLL.

I had also previously mentioned G4 possibly adding DAY-SRQ/SAV nonstop service as (a) the City of Dayton wants more air service out of DAY and (b) G4 already serves SRQ and SAV nonstop from other Midwestern cities.

G4 adding MCI-SAV nonstop service might also be a possibility with MCI being the largest Midwestern market without any nonstop service to SAV and most of the other major Midwestern markets already having nonstop service to SAV.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:56 am

Holy crap this is crazy.
Next flights:
Who knows? :/
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:58 am

TYSflyer wrote:
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Also showing AVL-VPS.

Honestly, I’m surprised it took them this long to add this route given the success of both markets.


Agreed. That and AVL-MSY are the ones I have been expecting for a couple of years.

On the other hand, TYS-RAP is a shocker.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:04 am

RAP.......wow. This is like April Fools.

I'm speechless.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:07 am

Is the Mount Rushmore traffic these days really big enough to justify an expansion like that at RAP? I know that JAC has seen more tourists than ever before in recent months due to the appeal of national parks in the COVID era, but I didn't think that RAP was seeing a massive tourist influx in the COVID era.
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:08 am

Scoots71 wrote:
Still no BHM... sigh.....


I don't get it either. Massive gap in their network is MS/AL/GA.
 
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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:51 am

Polot wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
This might have been touched on in the past but do we think G4 has any appetite for A321s?

Maybe get back to hawaii?

Or are one/both those ideas pretty much non starters?

At this time no I don’t think so. The A321 in Allegiant’s configuration is a lot of seats, I think they prefer the A320 size at this time especially as it makes it easier to rotate the planes around and use on smaller markets


Hawaii was such a disaster that there is probably little appetite to go back anytime soon, especially since the competitive scene has gotten worse since G4 left, not better (WN in market now). In any event a A321ceo in G4’s configuration probably wouldn’t make it Hawaii anyways.


Rumors around the wheel house is G4 is looking at A321s, but not for capacity increases, but mainly for additional CFM engines. Apparently they are getting hard to find, and would rather opt for the bigger 321s rather then switching engine manufactures all together. Again, rumors though.

Hawaii the first few months was a disaster, but to call the entire operation a disaster is a gross misjudgment. Combined with hotel package deals, Hawaii was very profitable for G4 out of LAX and LAS. They even pushed back the retirement of the 757s by a number of months because of the continued success of the routes. In the end, it wasn’t financially viable to operate a sub fleet of 757s to fly 2-3 flights to HNL a day. I personally think if G4 ever got their hands on a few 321NEOs, they would consider going back to Hawaii. The only reason they don’t fly now is because they would have to block off to many seats in their high density config to make the flight work on their current 320s
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:52 am

Looks like USA-SRQ is new too. I'm hoping some day they'll add more western-ish flights as they're all FL except New Orleans. Maybe when they open the base (which was delayed due to Covid)
 
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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:16 am

cbphoto wrote:
Polot wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
This might have been touched on in the past but do we think G4 has any appetite for A321s?

Maybe get back to hawaii?

Or are one/both those ideas pretty much non starters?

At this time no I don’t think so. The A321 in Allegiant’s configuration is a lot of seats, I think they prefer the A320 size at this time especially as it makes it easier to rotate the planes around and use on smaller markets


Hawaii was such a disaster that there is probably little appetite to go back anytime soon, especially since the competitive scene has gotten worse since G4 left, not better (WN in market now). In any event a A321ceo in G4’s configuration probably wouldn’t make it Hawaii anyways.


Rumors around the wheel house is G4 is looking at A321s, but not for capacity increases, but mainly for additional CFM engines. Apparently they are getting hard to find, and would rather opt for the bigger 321s rather then switching engine manufactures all together. Again, rumors though.

Hawaii the first few months was a disaster, but to call the entire operation a disaster is a gross misjudgment. Combined with hotel package deals, Hawaii was very profitable for G4 out of LAX and LAS. They even pushed back the retirement of the 757s by a number of months because of the continued success of the routes. In the end, it wasn’t financially viable to operate a sub fleet of 757s to fly 2-3 flights to HNL a day. I personally think if G4 ever got their hands on a few 321NEOs, they would consider going back to Hawaii. The only reason they don’t fly now is because they would have to block off to many seats in their high density config to make the flight work on their current 320s

Buying A321s is an incredibly expensive way to buy engines. In particular with a P2F opperation starting that will increase airframe costs.

G4 has existing A320 engines they can trade the dongles on for the thrust. CFM powered A320s are cheap enough and A319s are at scrap values.

A 15 year old A321 is worth $4.05 million more than a 15 year old A320. That would be insane to buy except for capacity.
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Much cheaper to switch engine manufactures. No one is that loyal to one engine.

I wouldn't rule out Hawaii, but not until used NEOs become much cheaper. With the current over-production, that will happen, but to get to G4 pricing is years away.

While I think the A321 will find its way to G4, the availability of A320 CEOs with GE engines isn't scarce. Oh, not as plentiful as the V2500 from what I've seen, but quite plentiful.

If you look at slide 13, plenty if aircraft becoming available just from Easyjet:

https://corporate.easyjet.com/~/media/F ... tation.pdf

No one is worried about a shortage of aircraft available for years. With either engine.

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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:19 am

Link to the aircraft lease values thread. Now 4 months out of date, but at this time terms favor the buyer:
viewtopic.php?t=1449067
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:20 am

List of new routes. As others mentioned the RAP ones are 2 weeks only for Sturgis

https://thepointsguy.com/news/allegiant ... epointsguy
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:43 am

lhpdx wrote:
I wonder if Allegiant plans to eventually make PDX a base? They've added a lot of cities in such a short amount of time..........


I mean - 7 routes, which in Allegiant terms measures out to maybe two flights a day, one on some days probably. Never say never but I don't see it...
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:43 am

I’m in shock, LAx ~> SHV starts 7/2 !
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:10 am

gdavis003 wrote:
Is the Mount Rushmore traffic these days really big enough to justify an expansion like that at RAP? I know that JAC has seen more tourists than ever before in recent months due to the appeal of national parks in the COVID era, but I didn't think that RAP was seeing a massive tourist influx in the COVID era.


I think with everything happening with COVID and the uncertainty of where to travel too over summer break, Allegiant is doubling down on destinations that serve national parks. They bet that people will want to travel, but stay in the US and that many will visit these large parks and events, like Sturgis. We’ll see if the bet works, but if anyone can get people traveling to odd places for cheap, I guarantee Allegiant will be the one to make it work.
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:16 am

I miss the old days when you could pass your mouse over an airport code and it would tell you what it stands for. For a non-American most of these codes are like hieroglyphs.

Looking at that map, who would fly from Rapid City in South Dakota to Grand Rapids?
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:40 am

Blerg wrote:
I miss the old days when you could pass your mouse over an airport code and it would tell you what it stands for. For a non-American most of these codes are like hieroglyphs.


This might help. I keep a tab set on this website . . . http://www.avcodes.co.uk/default.asp

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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:57 am

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
RAP.......wow. This is like April Fools.

I'm speechless.


Very logical adds per the press release.

Allegiant’s special routes for the Sturgis Bike Rally (Rapid City, South Dakota)

Appleton, Wisconsin (ATW): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Grand Rapids, Michigan (GRR): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Indianapolis (IND): Service begins Aug. 4: Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Knoxville, Tennessee (TYS): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Nashville (BNA): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Orlando/Sanford (SFB): Service begins Aug. 5, runs twice a week for two weeks
Peoria, Illinois (PIA): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Pittsburgh (PIT): Service begins Aug. 5, runs twice a week for two weeks
Punta Gorda, Florida (PGD): Service begins Aug. 6, runs twice a week for two weeks
 
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:15 pm

NCAD95 wrote:
PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
RAP.......wow. This is like April Fools.

I'm speechless.


Very logical adds per the press release.

Allegiant’s special routes for the Sturgis Bike Rally (Rapid City, South Dakota)

Appleton, Wisconsin (ATW): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Grand Rapids, Michigan (GRR): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Indianapolis (IND): Service begins Aug. 4: Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Knoxville, Tennessee (TYS): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Nashville (BNA): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Orlando/Sanford (SFB): Service begins Aug. 5, runs twice a week for two weeks
Peoria, Illinois (PIA): Service begins Aug. 4, runs twice a week for two weeks
Pittsburgh (PIT): Service begins Aug. 5, runs twice a week for two weeks
Punta Gorda, Florida (PGD): Service begins Aug. 6, runs twice a week for two weeks

I wonder how much G4 will charge to send a bike in the hold.....
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Re: Allegiant Air Route Expansion 2/9

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Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos