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Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:47 pm

Welcome to the Allegiant News and Discussion Thread 2021. Please continue to post your news and your discussion here.

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Re: Allegiant News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:32 pm

Allegiant started two seasonal red-eyes out of SFB last year to ABQ and ELP.. looks like only ELP returns this year in June and will actually be a day time flight
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Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:27 am

Allegiant further jumps on the sun & fun trend, this time following into popular JAC & EYW, and even PDX

JAC-RNO/LAX/LAS/AZA

PDX-IDA/MRY/SMX

EYW-SFB/BNA

BLV-CHS?

I think there could be other routes added that I missed.

https://www.allegiantair.com/interactive-routemap
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:36 am

I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:39 am

JAC-RNO? Huh...
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:42 am

TTailedTiger wrote:
I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.

Why does hotel cost make anyone want to pay an extra $100 for a plane ticket, really?
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:44 am

EYW will be tight with the A319. I assume that's what they're flying. I know Delta uses the 73G, but I'm sure it's weight restricted (especially to BNA) and Im under the maybe false impression that the 73G has better short field performance.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:45 am

Awesome to see them expanding into EYW.

BNA is the seventh largest unserved market from EYW with 10,900 passengers in 2019.

https://www.anna.aero/2020/11/04/key-we ... best-year/
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:48 am

BENAir01 wrote:
EYW will be tight with the A319. I assume that's what they're flying. I know Delta uses the 73G, but I'm sure it's weight restricted (especially to BNA) and Im under the maybe false impression that the 73G has better short field performance.


Delta retired the 737-700, so now they're using the A319 on ATL-EYW.

AA uses/has used the A319 on ORD/DFW/PHL-EYW, but I'm not sure if they're blocking seats.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:48 am

BENAir01 wrote:
EYW will be tight with the A319. I assume that's what they're flying. I know Delta uses the 73G, but I'm sure it's weight restricted (especially to BNA) and Im under the maybe false impression that the 73G has better short field performance.

Pretty sure DL retired the 73G.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:49 am

Wow, they’re really going to try to challenge the majors on JAC-LAX? DL/UA/AA all running there. I guess you just throw it out there and see how ticket sales go, but JAC is somewhat of a shocker to me. EYW makes more sense to me, and I understand PDX

They really do have a huge gap in the AL/MS/GA area when looking at the map.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:58 am

I always thought allegiant should do more ski market flights. Let's see how it goes. I agree jac-rno does stands out as kind of an odd ball.

EYW I think is brilliant for them. That place is expensive but attracts alot of people in all economic groups. If they are flying unconnected cities there will be demand, most people not on a.net fly based on price and if it's N/S.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:07 am

Midwestindy wrote:
Allegiant further jumps on the sun & fun trend, this time following into popular JAC & EYW, and even PDX

JAC-RNO/LAX/LAS/AZA

PDX-IDA/MRY/SMX

EYW-SFB/BNA

BLV-CHS?

I think there could be other routes added that I missed.

https://www.allegiantair.com/interactive-routemap


BLV-CHS is new.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:08 am

Ishrion wrote:
BENAir01 wrote:
EYW will be tight with the A319. I assume that's what they're flying. I know Delta uses the 73G, but I'm sure it's weight restricted (especially to BNA) and Im under the maybe false impression that the 73G has better short field performance.


Delta retired the 737-700, so now they're using the A319 on ATL-EYW.

AA uses/has used the A319 on ORD/DFW/PHL-EYW, but I'm not sure if they're blocking seats.


Not to PHL that I know of because I meet crews inbound on that flight frequently and it’s been an almost full load factor numerous times. I know going they’ve had a couple weight restrictions when having to land on a wet runway.

A few of these new Allegiant routes are puzzling ..... the PDX & RNOJAC
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:09 am

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
EYW I think is brilliant for them. That place is expensive but attracts alot of people in all economic groups. If they are flying unconnected cities there will be demand, most people not on a.net fly based on price and if it's N/S.


I was thinking the exact same regarding EYW; I think it might work quite well. JAC caters to a totally different crowd though, and it’s one that is certainly more picky and will be less inclined to fly on a cramped G4 flight. It will certainly be an interesting experiment. I think WN would do quite well at JAC, especially with their checked bag rules that have proved well at other ski resort cities that they fly into.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:19 am

I think G4 into JAC is going more after the mountain summer vacation crowd to the national parks than going after the ski crowd based on those markets.

JAC is going to be silly stupid busy this summer. The town is going to crumble under its own weight with the amount of demand for Summer 2021.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:20 am

I wouldn’t be surprised to see G4 add others such as SEA, STL, MSN, CLE, DTW, DFW, etc.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:30 am

It will be interesting to see what impact the SFB-EYW flight has on Silver, the BNA flight will be popular with some of the musicians that play in EYW.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:39 am

Ishrion wrote:
Awesome to see them expanding into EYW.

BNA is the seventh largest unserved market from EYW with 10,900 passengers in 2019.

https://www.anna.aero/2020/11/04/key-we ... best-year/


Any bets that WN adds BNA-EYW in the near future? I think they will.


HNLSLCPDX wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see G4 add others such as SEA, STL, MSN, CLE, DTW, DFW, etc.


BLV is already G4's STL isn't it?
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:39 am

Geez, EYW must be bursting at the seems at this point.

Winter schedule at EYW currently looks like:

AA: 1x ORD, 5x CLT, 1x DCA, 2x DFW, 3x MIA, 1x PHL, 1x TPA, 1x MCO (all E75s except for PHL/ORD/DFW flights)--15 daily flights
shifting to below on the weekends:
AA: 1x BOS, 1x MCO, 1x TPA, 3x MIA, 2x PHL, 1x DCA, 1x LGA, 2x ORD, 3x CLT, 2x DFW (all E75s except for DFW flights)--17 daily flights

UA: 2x EWR, 1x IAH, 1x ORD, 1x IAD (same schedule on the weekends, all E70/E75)--5 daily flights

DL: 6x ATL, 1x LGA (same schedule on weekends, all A319s except for the LGA flight, and 2x ATL flights)--7 daily flights

B6: 1x JFK, 1x BOS (both E90)--2 daily flights

I didn't bother to look up Silver as there schedule seems slightly sporadic. Anyways, EYW will now have 31 peak daily jet flights...far more than the 2009 airport/terminal building expansion was ever designed for (I think at that point there were only daily flights to MIA, ATL, some Florida cities on props, and a seasonal flight to CLT). The apron area was extremely congested the last time I was there 3 years ago, way before the recent route announcements took place.

I know the county government has announced plans to build a modern terminal equipped with jet bridges and an enlarged apron, I just don't see where they are going to get the space. They have the ocean on the south and east sides, a residential area on the north side, and a swap on the west side. If only the navy would permit commercial ops NQX.

Not to mention the island is tiny as it is, and there is only a limited number of hotels/tourist infrastructure. I was last there in 2016 and it felt pretty crowded, nowhere close to as idyllic/calm as I remember in the early 2000s.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:05 am

TTailedTiger wrote:
I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.


I’ve never flown G4 but if they added EYW I probably would. I’ll take the nonstop over a connection. Not as much about price for me as not dealing with connections.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:19 am

PDX is a return to the airport.

Allegiant operated nonstop PDX to RNO (with 1 stops to FAT and LAS) for a short time back in 2000. When G4 went into BK that year PDX was cut.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:21 am

Jshank83 wrote:

I’ve never flown G4 but if they added EYW I probably would. I’ll take the nonstop over a connection. Not as much about price for me as not dealing with connections.


G4 is actually a nice operation. I've flown them 6-8 times in the past few years. They are no longer the airline operating aging Mad Dogs, but a nice fleet of newer Airbus aircraft. The crew are pretty good too. Young and enthusiastic about their jobs, compared to some crew you find on legacy airlines.

While the seating can be cramped, if your options are a legacy airline with a stop, or a nice little 1-2 hour nonstop flight on G4, i'd take G4 anyday.

Another reason I like G4 is that they fly into smaller airports for certain destinations (i.e. PGD), which is nice because you can go from Plane to Car in a matter of minutes, compared to flying into somewhere like TPA...
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:32 am

Prior to all these big jets, EYW had 10/11 parking spots for Part 121 ops. 2 rows of 4 in front of the terminal, and then another 4 in front of the old customs building (with 1 being dedicated to intl flights/private). When the 170s came in, they fit the profile "box". I believe once DL came in with the 737 (and Air Tran); they converted the 2 ends of each row (3) into big jet parking spots.

So outside of TSA & gate hold room limits (which we used to board people EARLY and have them sit outside in the holding pin back in the day); you should be able to get 3 big jets + 5 E170s on the ramp no problem at any time. Its just going to get very very crowded!
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:02 am

TTailedTiger wrote:
I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.


You'd be surprised, G4 is a bit different than F9/NK, G4 actually attracts a lot of the non-ULCC crowd.

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HNLSLCPDX wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see G4 add others such as SEA, STL, MSN, CLE, DTW, DFW, etc.


Dallas seems like the biggest hole.

SEA is probably 2nd because of how far BLI is from the city.

STL has BLV, DTW has FNT

G4 serves CLE
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:58 am

HNLSLCPDX wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see G4 add others such as SEA, STL, MSN, CLE, DTW, DFW, etc.


Detroit would be a great add for them. There are so many markets they could serve from Detroit that the incumbent carriers are not willing to try.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:01 pm

TTailedTiger wrote:
I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.


Rude.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:02 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.


You'd be surprised, G4 is a bit different than F9/NK, G4 actually attracts a lot of the non-ULCC crowd.

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HNLSLCPDX wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see G4 add others such as SEA, STL, MSN, CLE, DTW, DFW, etc.


Dallas seems like the biggest hole.

SEA is probably 2nd because of how far BLI is from the city.

STL has BLV, DTW has FNT

G4 serves CLE


The tri county area that would benefit from G4 serving Detroit is almost as far as BLI is from SEA over an hour by car and that doesn't include traffic. Actually if they could work out a deal with the city DET would be a gold mine for them right smack in the middle of their customer base. So lets not be so quick to rule out Detroit as a great market for them.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:43 pm

I don't see WN returning to EYW They did not like the ops specs down there
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:47 pm

That little boarding area is going to get really crowded. No social distancing at EYW.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:08 pm

JAC, a town of 20,000, now has nonstop flights from 20 cities. That is nuts!

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=jac-sea/sa ... fk/lga/ewr
 
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:11 pm

Press Release: https://ir.allegiantair.com/news-releas ... ew-nonstop

Other new routes:

- PIA-SRQ/DEN
- BWI-PGD
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:30 pm

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JAC, a town of 20,000, now has nonstop flights from 20 cities. That is nuts!

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=jac-sea/sa ... fk/lga/ewr


There's nothing nuts about it. Grand Teton/Yellowstone NPs, Snake River and Snow skiing. Closest airport to a massive Massive tourist draw that's a very long trek in a car for most Americans.

I hope they'll add some eastern connections to JAC.

Southwest really needs to get in there with the Denver build up.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:47 pm

I'm surprised they aren't cherry picking routes in and out of Rapid City for summer 2021
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:53 pm

USAirALB wrote:
Geez, EYW must be bursting at the seems at this point.

I know the county government has announced plans to build a modern terminal equipped with jet bridges and an enlarged apron, I just don't see wherthey are going to get the space. They have the ocean on the south and east sides, a residential area on the north side, and a swap on the west side. If only the navy would permit commercial ops NQX.


With all this expansion at Key West I've been hoping that someday some service will spill over into Marathon Airport (KMTH). Just up the road from EYW they have a beautiful little terminal and a slightly longer runway than EYW at 5008ft. They haven't had pax ops there since 2008 when Delta was flying CR2's and E145's in daily from ATL. I'm not sure if the operating restrictions are tighter than in EYW but I know that both ends of the runway have significate clearings that could aid with climb out numbers. Or room for a runway extension... :duck: One can only dream!
 
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:09 pm

TTailedTiger wrote:
I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.

Stereotypes are a terrible thing. I assure you there are an abundance of people that fly G4 that can handle the cost of vacationing in Key West.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:19 pm

When will G4 venture into the NYC market? LGA could be a prime spot for some SAV/JAX routes. Also some SFB’s. I know G4 does some EWR work, but to have a grip, you really need to cover both sides of Manhattan.

Do ULCC’s do well in NYC?
 
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:24 pm

TYSflyer wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.

Stereotypes are a terrible thing. I assure you there are an abundance of people that fly G4 that can handle the cost of vacationing in Key West.


That's not what I was doing. I've known several very wealthy people that are extremely frugal and use ULCC's. They can afford a Key West vacation but they wouldn't consider it a good value for their money. Cheap and Key West just don't go together. That's like giving a middle class person a free ride to the Rolls Royce dealership.
 
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:45 pm

AmericanAir88 wrote:
When will G4 venture into the NYC market? LGA could be a prime spot for some SAV/JAX routes. Also some SFB’s. I know G4 does some EWR work, but to have a grip, you really need to cover both sides of Manhattan.

Do ULCC’s do well in NYC?


I think Spirit is trying to get more slots at LGA. For LGA and EWR yes, JFK not as much given it's route structures, other than B6. Other than B6 no LCC/ULCC has ever ventured to JFK.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:54 pm

TTailedTiger wrote:
TYSflyer wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
I'm really shocked to hear of EYW. If you can't afford a non-ULCC ticket then you definitely can't afford a hotel room there.

Stereotypes are a terrible thing. I assure you there are an abundance of people that fly G4 that can handle the cost of vacationing in Key West.


That's not what I was doing. I've known several very wealthy people that are extremely frugal and use ULCC's. They can afford a Key West vacation but they wouldn't consider it a good value for their money. Cheap and Key West just don't go together. That's like giving a middle class person a free ride to the Rolls Royce dealership.

Very confused as to what you are talking about.

There are several cheap motels in Key West that regularly have rooms for less than 150/night. My family and I have stopped going because the city has increasingly taken on a Myrtle Beach, Honkey-Tonk vibe (with a rowdy demographic to match) that wasn't as apparent say 10 years ago.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:00 pm

USAirALB wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
TYSflyer wrote:
Stereotypes are a terrible thing. I assure you there are an abundance of people that fly G4 that can handle the cost of vacationing in Key West.


That's not what I was doing. I've known several very wealthy people that are extremely frugal and use ULCC's. They can afford a Key West vacation but they wouldn't consider it a good value for their money. Cheap and Key West just don't go together. That's like giving a middle class person a free ride to the Rolls Royce dealership.

Very confused as to what you are talking about.

There are several cheap motels in Key West that regularly have rooms for less than 150/night. My family and I have stopped going because the city has increasingly taken on a Myrtle Beach, Honkey-Tonk vibe (with a rowdy demographic to match) that wasn't as apparent say 10 years ago.


I looked in mid December before the holiday crush and the cheapest I saw for that time on PL was $400 for a 2.5 star hotel with a 6 (poor) rating. Fares were cheap so just did a nice day trip (I live in Miami). Can't imagine they've come down in price. I would assume summer time prices come down considerably.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:03 pm

remember that Allegiant is a travel company, not just an airline. People could book the hotel package and trip with the flight bundle and not really care its a ULCC but more care that they are going on vacation in key west!
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:03 pm

WaywardMemphian wrote:
DLASFlyer wrote:
JAC, a town of 20,000, now has nonstop flights from 20 cities. That is nuts!

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=jac-sea/sa ... fk/lga/ewr


There's nothing nuts about it. Grand Teton/Yellowstone NPs, Snake River and Snow skiing. Closest airport to a massive Massive tourist draw that's a very long trek in a car for most Americans.

I hope they'll add some eastern connections to JAC.

Southwest really needs to get in there with the Denver build up.


In addition to huge and growing tourist travel, Jackson is home to many wealthy people who take advantage of Wyoming’s low taxes and protections for estates. The richest may use private jets, but many others fly commercial. With remote work booming, I expect more such working people to base there and travel frequently to the major cities where they formerly lived.
The same likely is true for Key West and the Keys.
 
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:12 pm

USAirALB wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
TYSflyer wrote:
Stereotypes are a terrible thing. I assure you there are an abundance of people that fly G4 that can handle the cost of vacationing in Key West.


That's not what I was doing. I've known several very wealthy people that are extremely frugal and use ULCC's. They can afford a Key West vacation but they wouldn't consider it a good value for their money. Cheap and Key West just don't go together. That's like giving a middle class person a free ride to the Rolls Royce dealership.

Very confused as to what you are talking about.

There are several cheap motels in Key West that regularly have rooms for less than 150/night. My family and I have stopped going because the city has increasingly taken on a Myrtle Beach, Honkey-Tonk vibe (with a rowdy demographic to match) that wasn't as apparent say 10 years ago.


You just need to stay off Duval St. So many cool places that are hidden away. I was there over New Years (Hell Week) it was uncrowded and pleasant. I could actually walk on the sidewalks. I estimate 25% of the bar/restaurants have closed. Still a fun town, pulls the quirky and weird people in which is important.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:27 pm

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With all this expansion at Key West I've been hoping that someday some service will spill over into Marathon Airport (KMTH). Just up the road from EYW they have a beautiful little terminal and a slightly longer runway than EYW at 5008ft.

I would take Marathon over Key West any day. I much prefer the middle keys over Key West as a vacation destination. And yes I've done both.
I suspect the problem is that Marathon is just too close to MIA and passengers wouldn't pay the premium to fly into Marathon.

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JAC, a town of 20,000, now has nonstop flights from 20 cities. That is nuts!

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There's nothing nuts about it. Grand Teton/Yellowstone NPs, Snake River and Snow skiing. Closest airport to a massive Massive tourist draw that's a very long trek in a car for most Americans.

I hope they'll add some eastern connections to JAC.

Southwest really needs to get in there with the Denver build up.


It's a very seasonal destination and lodging is extremely limited and expensive in the Summer.
Having visited just this past Summer I can't imagine the place being even more crowded than it already is.
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:29 pm

Us Floridians like to take weekend trips to the various beaches that Florida has to offer. A 4 door sedan would need gas once each way so roughly $30 each way. If someone is going to offer $80 RT fares to Key West or Miami for the weekend, we're going to do it for convenience reasons. We don't rent cars when we're there, we rent golf carts or little 2 seater Scoot Coupes.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:31 pm

HNLSLCPDX wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see G4 add others such as SEA, STL, MSN, CLE, DTW, DFW, etc.

I would be very surprised.

Additions like these would go against Allegiant's entire business model, specifically SEA and DFW.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:54 pm

airbazar wrote:
ryan78 wrote:
With all this expansion at Key West I've been hoping that someday some service will spill over into Marathon Airport (KMTH). Just up the road from EYW they have a beautiful little terminal and a slightly longer runway than EYW at 5008ft.

I would take Marathon over Key West any day. I much prefer the middle keys over Key West as a vacation destination. And yes I've done both.
I suspect the problem is that Marathon is just too close to MIA and passengers wouldn't pay the premium to fly into Marathon.

WaywardMemphian wrote:
DLASFlyer wrote:
JAC, a town of 20,000, now has nonstop flights from 20 cities. That is nuts!

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=jac-sea/sa ... fk/lga/ewr


There's nothing nuts about it. Grand Teton/Yellowstone NPs, Snake River and Snow skiing. Closest airport to a massive Massive tourist draw that's a very long trek in a car for most Americans.

I hope they'll add some eastern connections to JAC.

Southwest really needs to get in there with the Denver build up.


It's a very seasonal destination and lodging is extremely limited and expensive in the Summer.
Having visited just this past Summer I can't imagine the place being even more crowded than it already is.


The past ymsummer was Yellowstone's busiest with at least half their lodging closed. We went the first week of Oct and stayed at the Mammoth. The General Store employees were in shocked at how busy it was. The hotel was to close for the season in just a couple of days after our stay. The on park lodging at Tetons was closed. Look for lots of newer resorts from Victor/Driggs to Island Park in the near future..

They have been increasing the amount of snowmobiling in Yellowstone. That is awesome if cold doesn't bother you. Those leave from the other entrances other than the south though
 
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:57 pm

AC4500 wrote:
HNLSLCPDX wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see G4 add others such as SEA, STL, MSN, CLE, DTW, DFW, etc.

I would be very surprised.

Additions like these would go against Allegiant's entire business model, specifically SEA and DFW.

That is true, but they've had no issues entering airports in big cities before (e.g., EWR/BOS/BWI/HOU/MDW/DEN), so maybe it could happen.
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Re: Allegiant adds EYW, PDX, & JAC

Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:05 pm

JAC is going to run out of space the way things are going. There are only three baggage belts and Alaska took the last existing counter space.. The hold room is too small for the mid-day rush already. Hopefully Allegiant will be doing some evening turns instead of piling in between 11am and 3pm when the airport is already over capacity. I would not be surprised if to see 10+ A319s on the ground at once this summer at peak times.
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