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SJOtoLIR
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:07 pm

embraer175e2 wrote:
Is it still like that? 2 times 30 kg?

No, that was some years ago as ponting out before, when the E90 was questioned for cargo constraints.
Here's the current baggage allowance policy of the airline.

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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:50 pm

Avianca will start San Jose - Cancun service.

SJO 07.55.....11.25 CUN...Tu, Th, Sa
CUN 12.50....14.25 SJO....Tu, Th, Sa
Effective: December 02nd.

AV SJO-CUN 3x weekly will complement the massive new services posted by AV for December 2021.
This route is currently served by Volaris / Volaris Costa Rica.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:13 pm

I do believe SJO will become a hublet for AV. I wonder if GUA will be beefed up as well.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:26 pm

avi8 wrote:
I do believe SJO will become a hublet for AV. I wonder if GUA will be beefed up as well.
1st we'll have to see AV flying routes like SJO-CCS, SJO-HAV, SJO-PUJ, SJO-UIO, SJO-LIM, SJO-MDE to feed that hublet.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:28 pm

I'm pretty sure AV could fill a hypothetical SJO PUJ once or twice a week.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:56 pm

LightChop2Chop wrote:
I'm pretty sure AV could fill a hypothetical SJO PUJ once or twice a week.
I do agree, something like Monday afternoon-evening and Friday early morning-afternoon schedule.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:36 am

So SJO is returning to its former status on TA.
Based on the recent movements of the airline, that technical decision taken in 2013 was a complete mistake.
The dual operations of San Salvador and San Jose have never looked as an efficient model of transportation. Both SAL and SJO worked slightly similar between themselves on those TACA days.
For example, 15 years ago TA SAL-HAV and TA SJO-HAV was in service simultaneously. No more than 3x-4x weekly flights each.
TA-AV has never had a good coverage to the Caribbean out of Central America. TA SJO-SDQ did operate for a little while.
ADZ, SDQ, PUJ, SJU, AUA and CUR are all served from Bogota, not Central America.
Notice how none of the Caribbean stations have been actually mentioned within the recent expansion plans of the airline.

More comments on AV:
SJO-CCS: No longer in service.
SJO-HAV: No longer in service.
SJO-UIO-GYE-SJO: No longer in service.
SJO-LIM: Discontinued in March 2020.
SJO-MDE: Resumes in December.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:57 am

interesting article from Panama La Prensa

https://www.martesfinanciero.com/portad ... -panameno/

CM is expecting to add 2 more Max this year and 7 to 8 per year in the future
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:20 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
REDHL wrote:
SJOtoLIR wrote:
Update:

I had posted the resumption list of CM, in the earlier months of 2021.
However, they're not operating yet: St, Maarten, Cordoba, Mendoza, Recife, Rosario, San Andres Island, Manaos, Paramaribo, Santiago de los Caballeros, San Francisco, Barbados and Las Vegas.
CM PTY-MSY is programmed on December 04th.
The current demand of passengers is mandatory on changing their former plans.


Thanks for the clarification.

Coincidentally, a friend also told me that yesterday and that what some outlets had mentioned about the termination of the PTY-MSY route were incorrect. Now in more I will try to do more cross-check of the information.


PTYMSY is permanently discontinued and no longer in reservation systems through end of schedule.


According to https://destinationsguide.copaair.com/e ... stinations

MSY has been stated to restart on Sep 8, 2022

The rest of the destinations:
San Francisco (SFO) Oct 15, 2021
Denver (DEN) Nov 15, 2021
Cordoba (COR) Dec 1, 2021
Mendoza (MDZ) Dec 1, 2021
Manaus (MAO) Dec 2, 2021
Las Vegas (LAS) Dec 7, 2021
Paramaribo (PBM) Dec 11, 2021
St Maarten (SXM) Jan 1, 2022
Santiago de los Caballeros (STI) Feb 2, 2022
Rosario (ROS) Jul 27, 2022
Port Au Prince (PAP) Aug 2, 2022
Bridgetown (BGI) Aug 17, 2022
Holguin (HOG) Aug 17, 2022
Santa Clara (SNU) Aug 18, 2022
San Andres Island (ADZ) Aug 19, 2022
Liberia (LIR) Sep 8, 2022
New Orleans (MSY) Sep 8, 2022
Puerto Vallarta (PVR) Sep 8, 2022
Recife (REC) Sep 8, 2022
Salta (SLA) Sep 8, 2022
Salvador (SSA) Sep 8, 2022
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:18 pm

Delta Air Lines has just expanded its landing in Panama with the launch of two new additional routes: LAX-PTY and MCO-PTY. The latter will be the first international route they launch from Orlando. Both flights will begin on December 18, they will be 1x weekly and the equipment to be used will be the 757-200 and the 737-900ER, respectively.

Also, the Saturday flight of the ATL-PTY route on that same date will become 2x daily.

Besides that, Delta amended the start date of the JFK-PTY flight, now it will begin on December 20. The frequencies will initially remain at 3x weekly until March 2022, when it increases to 4x weekly.

https://news.delta.com/delta-launch-new ... hts-panama
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:46 pm

REDHL wrote:
Delta Air Lines has just expanded its landing in Panama with the launch of two new additional routes: LAX-PTY and MCO-PTY. The latter will be the first international route they launch from Orlando. Both flights will begin on December 18, they will be 1x weekly and the equipment to be used will be the 757-200 and the 737-900ER, respectively.

Also, the Saturday flight of the ATL-PTY route on that same date will become 2x daily.

Besides that, Delta amended the start date of the JFK-PTY flight, now it will begin on December 20. The frequencies will initially remain at 3x weekly until March 2022, when it increases to 4x weekly.

https://news.delta.com/delta-launch-new ... hts-panama


this is a very interesting event !!!!!

now, CM has codeshare partner agreement with KLM and Air France so not sure if they can extend with Delta given CM conection with Star Alliance
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:56 am

REDHL wrote:
Delta Air Lines has just expanded its landing in Panama with the launch of two new additional routes: LAX-PTY and MCO-PTY. The latter will be the first international route they launch from Orlando. Both flights will begin on December 18, they will be 1x weekly and the equipment to be used will be the 757-200 and the 737-900ER, respectively.

Also, the Saturday flight of the ATL-PTY route on that same date will become 2x daily.

Besides that, Delta amended the start date of the JFK-PTY flight, now it will begin on December 20. The frequencies will initially remain at 3x weekly until March 2022, when it increases to 4x weekly.

https://news.delta.com/delta-launch-new ... hts-panama

Interesting to see this happen pretty soon after CM announced it will fly to ATL...
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:29 am

Kilgen wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
REDHL wrote:

Thanks for the clarification.

Coincidentally, a friend also told me that yesterday and that what some outlets had mentioned about the termination of the PTY-MSY route were incorrect. Now in more I will try to do more cross-check of the information.


PTYMSY is permanently discontinued and no longer in reservation systems through end of schedule.


According to https://destinationsguide.copaair.com/e ... stinations

MSY has been stated to restart on Sep 8, 2022

The rest of the destinations:
San Francisco (SFO) Oct 15, 2021
Denver (DEN) Nov 15, 2021
Cordoba (COR) Dec 1, 2021
Mendoza (MDZ) Dec 1, 2021
Manaus (MAO) Dec 2, 2021
Las Vegas (LAS) Dec 7, 2021
Paramaribo (PBM) Dec 11, 2021
St Maarten (SXM) Jan 1, 2022
Santiago de los Caballeros (STI) Feb 2, 2022
Rosario (ROS) Jul 27, 2022
Port Au Prince (PAP) Aug 2, 2022
Bridgetown (BGI) Aug 17, 2022
Holguin (HOG) Aug 17, 2022
Santa Clara (SNU) Aug 18, 2022
San Andres Island (ADZ) Aug 19, 2022
Liberia (LIR) Sep 8, 2022
New Orleans (MSY) Sep 8, 2022
Puerto Vallarta (PVR) Sep 8, 2022
Recife (REC) Sep 8, 2022
Salta (SLA) Sep 8, 2022
Salvador (SSA) Sep 8, 2022


Very glad to see MSY slated to return. I imagine the service will be at a lower frequency and similar to some of the leisure markets like PVR, but at least the region will still have some connectivity through PTY.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:46 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Kilgen wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:

PTYMSY is permanently discontinued and no longer in reservation systems through end of schedule.


According to https://destinationsguide.copaair.com/e ... stinations

MSY has been stated to restart on Sep 8, 2022

The rest of the destinations:
San Francisco (SFO) Oct 15, 2021
Denver (DEN) Nov 15, 2021
Cordoba (COR) Dec 1, 2021
Mendoza (MDZ) Dec 1, 2021
Manaus (MAO) Dec 2, 2021
Las Vegas (LAS) Dec 7, 2021
Paramaribo (PBM) Dec 11, 2021
St Maarten (SXM) Jan 1, 2022
Santiago de los Caballeros (STI) Feb 2, 2022
Rosario (ROS) Jul 27, 2022
Port Au Prince (PAP) Aug 2, 2022
Bridgetown (BGI) Aug 17, 2022
Holguin (HOG) Aug 17, 2022
Santa Clara (SNU) Aug 18, 2022
San Andres Island (ADZ) Aug 19, 2022
Liberia (LIR) Sep 8, 2022
New Orleans (MSY) Sep 8, 2022
Puerto Vallarta (PVR) Sep 8, 2022
Recife (REC) Sep 8, 2022
Salta (SLA) Sep 8, 2022
Salvador (SSA) Sep 8, 2022


Very glad to see MSY slated to return. I imagine the service will be at a lower frequency and similar to some of the leisure markets like PVR, but at least the region will still have some connectivity through PTY.


It may still be the same frequency, as CM only retired the E190s. They kept 6 B737-700.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:51 am

copa330200 wrote:
CM has codeshare partner agreement with KLM and Air France so not sure if they can extend with Delta given CM conection with Star Alliance

CM doesn't hold code-share agreements with DL by now, but an interline service.
CM sustains multiple code-share and interline agreements, disregarding if the airline is forming part of Star Alliance or not.

Regards.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:01 am

ipelyhe wrote:
Interesting to see this happen pretty soon after CM announced it will fly to ATL.

CM PTY-ATL, DL JFK-PTY, DL MCO-PTY and DL LAX-PTY.
That doesn't seem to be new ways of cooperation between themselves, but they're likely rivalizing in the same markets.
Let's study the amount of their weekly flights, in December.
CM may even increase their weekly operations later.

Atlanta - Panama City.
CM PTY-ATL. 4x weekly
DL ATL-PTY. 8x weekly

New York JFK - Panama City.
CM JFK-PTY 28x weekly
DL JFK-PTY 3x weekly

Los Angeles - Panama City
CM LAX-PTY. 13x weekly
DL LAX-PTY. 1x weekly

Orlando - Panama City
CM MCO-PTY 28x weekly
DL MCO-PTY 1x weekly

Regards,
 
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:20 am

Honduras just inaugurated Palmerola airport on October 15th as the substitution of Toncontin, Tegucigalpa.
The airport is localated in Comayagua and lies 75km from capital city. IATA: XPL, OACI: MHPR
It's also known as Enrique Soto Cano airport and even operates as a military air base for the US and Honduras.
Their regular jet flights are expected for November. TGU would continue for domestic operations.
The runway is 2800 meters long, seven jet-bridges has been constructed and terminal building consits of 39 000 square meters.


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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:54 pm

We won't see this sight anymore in Tegucigalpa.

 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:24 pm

The itinerary for the upcoming LAX-PTY and MCO-PTY flights are now available on DL's reservation page. It will be as follows:

LAX
DL1846: LAX 20:50 - 05:45+1 PTY (Sat) - B752
DL1847: PTY 08:05 - 11:55 LAX (Sun) - B752

MCO
DL2009: MCO 10:30 - 13:50 PTY (Sat) - B739ER
DL2010: PTY 15:20 - 18:41 MCO (Sat) - B739ER

As for the second Saturday daily flight of the ATL-PTY route, is not available yet.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:22 pm

REDHL wrote:
The itinerary for the upcoming LAX-PTY and MCO-PTY flights are now available on DL's reservation page. It will be as follows:

LAX
DL1846: LAX 20:50 - 05:45+1 PTY (Sat) - B752
DL1847: PTY 08:05 - 11:55 LAX (Sun) - B752

MCO
DL2009: MCO 10:30 - 13:50 PTY (Sat) - B739ER
DL2010: PTY 15:20 - 18:41 MCO (Sat) - B739ER

As for the second Saturday daily flight of the ATL-PTY route, is not available yet.


JFK-PTY neither right? not availble yet?
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:26 pm

Chele737 wrote:
REDHL wrote:
The itinerary for the upcoming LAX-PTY and MCO-PTY flights are now available on DL's reservation page. It will be as follows:

LAX
DL1846: LAX 20:50 - 05:45+1 PTY (Sat) - B752
DL1847: PTY 08:05 - 11:55 LAX (Sun) - B752

MCO
DL2009: MCO 10:30 - 13:50 PTY (Sat) - B739ER
DL2010: PTY 15:20 - 18:41 MCO (Sat) - B739ER

As for the second Saturday daily flight of the ATL-PTY route, is not available yet.


JFK-PTY neither right? not availble yet?


JFK-PTY is also available on DL's reservation page. It was also posted here in this thread some weeks ago. The only change of the aforementioned route is that will start on December 20th instead of the 19th.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:00 pm

Today was the official launch of Volaris El Salvador. Let's hope this brings more connectivity and destinations to the region!

https://twitter.com/PresidenciaSV/statu ... 6075284484
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:54 pm

REDHL wrote:
The itinerary for the upcoming LAX-PTY and MCO-PTY flights are now available on DL's reservation page. It will be as follows:

LAX
DL1846: LAX 20:50 - 05:45+1 PTY (Sat) - B752
DL1847: PTY 08:05 - 11:55 LAX (Sun) - B752

MCO
DL2009: MCO 10:30 - 13:50 PTY (Sat) - B739ER
DL2010: PTY 15:20 - 18:41 MCO (Sat) - B739ER

As for the second Saturday daily flight of the ATL-PTY route, is not available yet.


ATLPTY Already loaded :)

ATL
DL1905: ATL 16:25 - 20:28 PTY (Sat) - B738
DL1904: PTY 08:05 - 12:15 ATL (Sun) - B738
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:16 pm

SJOtoLIR wrote:
ipelyhe wrote:
Interesting to see this happen pretty soon after CM announced it will fly to ATL.

CM PTY-ATL, DL JFK-PTY, DL MCO-PTY and DL LAX-PTY.
That doesn't seem to be new ways of cooperation between themselves, but they're likely rivalizing in the same markets.
Let's study the amount of their weekly flights, in December.
CM may even increase their weekly operations later.

Atlanta - Panama City.
CM PTY-ATL. 4x weekly
DL ATL-PTY. 8x weekly

New York JFK - Panama City.
CM JFK-PTY 28x weekly
DL JFK-PTY 3x weekly

Los Angeles - Panama City
CM LAX-PTY. 13x weekly
DL LAX-PTY. 1x weekly

Orlando - Panama City
CM MCO-PTY 28x weekly
DL MCO-PTY 1x weekly

Regards,

Indeed it might seem like a retaliatory response to CM entering ATL, but the frequencies are low enough to possibly make a real dent on pricing on these markets.

ATL might be more affected because there CM is putting more flights on offer than DL is on the other 3 markets it is entering to PTY. And mainly, I would say that the switch in the timing of DL PTY-ATL from early morning to mid afternoon opened this opportunity for CM to offer a more convenient timing on the same route, added to the connection potential of the CM hub that has been showing a consistent recovery lately.

MCO is another interesting one to monitor, taking into account that DL MCO-PTY route would be the only international route for DL out of MCO. It is worth considering that NK previously tried to compete with CM on that same route just to be driven out of the market by CM in a fairly quick amount of time. We welcome the competition and hope that this time DL can make it work so that there are more offers and less of a monopoly on most PTY-USA routs from CM.

LAX and JFK can and should pretty much stand on their own considering the small amount of change that would affect the routes overall.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:27 pm

Chele737 wrote:
REDHL wrote:
The itinerary for the upcoming LAX-PTY and MCO-PTY flights are now available on DL's reservation page. It will be as follows:

LAX
DL1846: LAX 20:50 - 05:45+1 PTY (Sat) - B752
DL1847: PTY 08:05 - 11:55 LAX (Sun) - B752

MCO
DL2009: MCO 10:30 - 13:50 PTY (Sat) - B739ER
DL2010: PTY 15:20 - 18:41 MCO (Sat) - B739ER

As for the second Saturday daily flight of the ATL-PTY route, is not available yet.


ATLPTY Already loaded :)

ATL
DL1905: ATL 16:25 - 20:28 PTY (Sat) - B738
DL1904: PTY 08:05 - 12:15 ATL (Sun) - B738


Well, that should do it. ✅

Besides and from what I see, they will re-implement the old time schedule of the standard ATL-PTY flight for the second daily frequency on Saturday.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:49 pm

Regarding the JFK-PTY route, I checked Delta's booking page and found that they also amended the days they will operate their initial 3x weekly flights, as well as the schedules, now that they changed the official launch to December 20th.

Now it will be as follows:

DL1753: JFK 08:30 - 14:05 PTY (M, W, F) - B738
DL1754: PTY 15:30 - 20:44 JFK (M, W, F) - B738
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:49 pm

Chele737 wrote:
ATLPTY Already loaded :)

ATL
DL1905: ATL 16:25 - 20:28 PTY (Sat) - B738
DL1904: PTY 08:05 - 12:15 ATL (Sun) - B738
IMHO, a one-two hour later ATL departure and one-two hour earlier departure from PTY would have worked better.
Those times look like are to match CM’s evening and morning hub banks, not to try to get as much connecting south- and north-bound traffic via ATL.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:44 am

https://www.elsalvador.com/noticias/neg ... 1339/2021/

interesting news, based on airfleets there is 1 A320 Neo assigned to El Salvador branch. Not sure about a potential reaction from AV :scratchchin:
Last edited by copa330200 on Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:00 am, edited 2 times in total.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:54 am

copa330200 wrote:
https://www.elsalvador.com/noticias/negocios/volaris-vuelo-turismo-aeropuertos-aeropuerto-internacional-de-el-salvador/891339/2021/

interesting news, based on airfleets there is 1 A320 Neo assigned to El Salvador branch. Not sure about a potential reaction from AV :scratchchin:


This will be the Airbus that will be transfer to Volaris El Salvador.
N544VL, N520VL, N524VL, N515VL

Regards.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:35 pm

Aeromar will start operations in Guatemala and Honduras. Flights will be operated by Aeromar on behave of AeroRutaMaya from Guatemala
Starting December 1.

GUA-FRS 10 weekly
GUA-SAP 4 weekly
FRS-CUN 3 weekly


Flights will be like this on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Santurdays
GUA-FRS-GUA-SAP-GUA-FRS-GUA

Flights will be like this on Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays
GUA-FRS-CUN-FRS-GUA
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:06 pm

juanchito wrote:
Aeromar will start operations in Guatemala and Honduras. Flights will be operated by Aeromar on behave of AeroRutaMaya from Guatemala
Starting December 1.

GUA-FRS 10 weekly
GUA-SAP 4 weekly
FRS-CUN 3 weekly


Flights will be like this on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Santurdays
GUA-FRS-GUA-SAP-GUA-FRS-GUA

Flights will be like this on Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays
GUA-FRS-CUN-FRS-GUA

The Mexican airline Aeromar is deploying routes based at GUA, given the proposal of VW GUA-FRS and VW GUA-SAP.
They will be likely operated with ATR equipment.

Regards.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:23 pm

Avianca will resume their Central American flights out of Lima, Peru:

AV LIM-SAL. 320, 1x weekly. Effective: December 17.
AV LIM-SJO. 320, 1x weekly. Effective: January 22.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:47 pm

SJOtoLIR wrote:
Avianca will resume their Central American flights out of Lima, Peru:

AV LIM-SAL. 320, 1x weekly. Effective: December 17.
Makes sense, hope AV realises that its SAL hub still could support 3-4 SAL-LIM-SAL per week.
AV LIM-SJO. 320, 1x weekly. Effective: January 22.
IMHO, not needed, specially since Latam flies LIM-SJO from its LIM hub.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:58 pm

AV regrets closing the SJO hub so badly. The new flights are targeted towards O/D and the schedules reflect that but it comes to show the power of SJO versus GUA/SAL.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:51 pm

LATAM hasn’t resumed yet the LP LIM- SJO service.
Before March 2020, AV LIM-SAL was operated up to 14x weekly. One of the couple of these daily flights sent the Airbus 330.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:20 am

Air Transat will resume YUL-RIH on November 23 and YYZ-RIH on December 13. Both routes will be operated with A321neo LR.

In the other hand, Sunwing rescheduled the resumption of YYZ-RIH and YUL-RIH to December 20 and 24, respectively. Its still unknown which specific aircraft are going to deploy on both routes (if B738NG, B738M, or a combination of both).

I checked on both airlines' websites.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:15 pm

So, TS YYZ-RIH will resume on December 13th.
The same date when TS YUL-LIR would start again.
Furthermore, TS YUL-SAL will begin on December 16th.
All these flights would be operating on a seasonal basis.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:49 am

Copa Holdings (CPA) Q3 Earnings and Revenues Beat Estimates

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/copa-hol ... 11493.html

I think more details will be available during the day but definetely good news from CM :hyper:
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:51 pm

American is dropping service to Costa Rica from JFK.

https://www.businessinsider.com/america ... st-2021-11

Did they actually had service JFK-LIR at some point? I think the route was announced just before the pandemic started.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:51 am

estefanovich wrote:
Did they actually had service JFK-LIR at some point? I think the route was announced just before the pandemic started.

B6 JFK-LIR. 4x weekly. Started: November 2011.
B6 JFK-SJO. 4x weekly. Started: November 2019.
AA JFK-SJO. 7x weekly. Started: November 2019.
AA JFK-LIR. 1x weekly. Started: December 2019. No longer in service.

AA JFK-SJO worked as a follower of B6 JFK-SJO 4x weekly, since November 2019.
Based on the press release posted above, they're not rivals at this time but partners.
So, only one airline is necessary, in such sector. AA may put its code-share number on B6 JFK-SJO
AV has announced their former plans on the resumption of the JFK-SJO service as well.
Delta Air Lines also briefly flew the DL JFK-SJO segment.

Regards.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:12 pm

Belize is strengthening its US network, allowing new destinations and weekly frequencies at this time:

Los Angeles: AS LAX-BZE 3x + AA LAX-BZE 1x
Seattle: AS SEA-BZE 2x
Houston: WN HOU-BZE 7x + UA IAH-BZE 14x
Dallas / Ft.Worth: AA DFW-BZE 7x
Denver: WN DEN-BZE 1x + UA DEN-BZE 4x
Chicago: UA ORD-BZE 1x
New York City: UA EWR-BZE 4x
Atlanta: DL ATL-BZE 7x
Charlotte: AA CLT-BZE 1x
Miami: AA MIA-BZE 7x
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:07 pm

SJOtoLIR wrote:
Belize is strengthening its US network, allowing new destinations and weekly frequencies at this time:

Los Angeles: AS LAX-BZE 3x + AA LAX-BZE 1x
Seattle: AS SEA-BZE 2x
Houston: WN HOU-BZE 7x + UA IAH-BZE 14x
Dallas / Ft.Worth: AA DFW-BZE 7x
Denver: WN DEN-BZE 1x + UA DEN-BZE 4x
Chicago: UA ORD-BZE 1x
New York City: UA EWR-BZE 4x
Atlanta: DL ATL-BZE 7x
Charlotte: AA CLT-BZE 1x
Miami: AA MIA-BZE 7x


Just a small correction based on OAG
Los Angeles: AS LAX-BZE 4x + AA LAX-BZE 1x + UA LAX-BZE 1X
Houston: WN HOU-BZE 7x + UA IAH-BZE 16x
Dallas / Ft.Worth: AA DFW-BZE 8x
Denver: WN DEN-BZE 1x + UA DEN-BZE 4x + F9 DEN-BZE 1X (starts 12/11)
Orlando: F9 MCO-BZE 1X (starts 12/11)

LAX and DEN - BZE look to be battle grounds.
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