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Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:09 pm

Welcome to the Edingburgh Aviation Thread 2021. Please continue to post your news and your discussion here.

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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:43 am

With AA and EK pulling out, alongside route culling. Any positive news for EDI moving into 2021?
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:29 am

kxngb wrote:
With AA and EK pulling out, alongside route culling. Any positive news for EDI moving into 2021?

AA is still flying to PHL this year.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:31 pm

kxngb wrote:
With AA and EK pulling out, alongside route culling. Any positive news for EDI moving into 2021?


AC to move to mainline with 4x weekly 737 MAX service from June.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:48 pm

CWL757 wrote:
kxngb wrote:
With AA and EK pulling out, alongside route culling. Any positive news for EDI moving into 2021?

AA is still flying to PHL this year.

Think its been culled back further so will be interesting to see if it does show up. A 787 even before C19 was a big plane to fill.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:22 pm

digitalcloud wrote:
kxngb wrote:
With AA and EK pulling out, alongside route culling. Any positive news for EDI moving into 2021?


AC to move to mainline with 4x weekly 737 MAX service from June.


Yes indeed I had seen the AC have scheduled in the MAX, lets see how it all plans out post covid.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:24 pm

by738 wrote:
CWL757 wrote:
kxngb wrote:
With AA and EK pulling out, alongside route culling. Any positive news for EDI moving into 2021?

AA is still flying to PHL this year.

Think its been culled back further so will be interesting to see if it does show up. A 787 even before C19 was a big plane to fill.


Yes the 787 is indeed a big plane to fill but I had heard that the PHL flight from EDI serves a few contracts hence the upgrade to EDI. Which is good news for us consumers
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:10 am

kxngb wrote:
Yes the 787 is indeed a big plane to fill but I had heard that the PHL flight from EDI serves a few contracts hence the upgrade to EDI. Which is good news for us consumers


The upgauge is due to the 757 being retired.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:57 am

digitalcloud wrote:
kxngb wrote:
Yes the 787 is indeed a big plane to fill but I had heard that the PHL flight from EDI serves a few contracts hence the upgrade to EDI. Which is good news for us consumers


The upgauge is due to the 757 being retired.


With the 757 retired, AA has no choice but to place the 787-8 on the PHL-EDI route as it has no other aircraft that can fly this route really, though the 321/319s and the 737-MAX could technically operate it. AA does have contracts. BlackRock has a large presence in Wilmington DE and in Edinburgh, for instance, and Barclays also has a major operations center in Wilmington and in Glasgow, which AA does not serve but isn't that far from EDI. There are likely a few others, but EDI being a seasonal route, I am not sure how much of it depends on corporate traffic, and certainly not this year.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:14 am

certain local media outlets reporting that the airport was closed this morning due an icy runway. Surprised EDI wasn't prepared for this as it has never really been an issue in the past?
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:10 am

kxngb wrote:
certain local media outlets reporting that the airport was closed this morning due an icy runway. Surprised EDI wasn't prepared for this as it has never really been an issue in the past?



It was closed for 10 hours on the 2nd of Jan too. It has been an issue before, and it’s not surprising. EDI is one of the worst managed airports in Europe.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:10 pm

Edinburgh Airport passenger numbers drop to 25 year low

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... e-55936724

Passenger numbers at Edinburgh Airport last year dropped to their lowest level since 1995, according to new figures.

In 2019 a record 15 million people used the airport but that dropped to just under 3.5million last year.

The majority of those travelled before the pandemic hit in March.

Gordon Dewar, the chief executive of the airport, said the fall in passenger numbers due to Covid-19 was "worrying" and warned there was "no clear path to recovery".

The Scottish government says it has extended non-domestic rates relief for the sector and is working with airports on recovery.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:30 am

Could we see an alteration of ADP in scotland to kick off the industry when things start to improve. Feel like EDI will need all the help it gets with the knock off effect of airlines quitting.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:18 am

Doubt the regional ‘government’ will want any industry or tax income changes in this climate and before an upcoming election. Air tax reductions is often seen seen as slightly elitist and favouring only those with finances for leisure travel.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:47 am

The scottish nationalists U-turned on ADP. They wanted it devolved, then changed their mind due to 'the environment' and seemed to accept that it is a good money spinner, and they get to direct any negative press regarding PR to those nasty English people who have control over APD.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:46 pm

As the hotel quarantines kick in, any impacts on the flights coming into EDI? It certainly has become a ghost town!
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:00 pm

Why would anyone fly into EDI when they could save thousands and fly into Manchester/Newcastle and travel up?

Supposedly Monday's Istanbul flight had 60 passengers booked but only four ended up travelling.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:01 pm

Air Baltic are starting a summer seasonal twice weekly service in June:

https://corporate.edinburghairport.com/ ... -announced
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:07 pm

June seems ambitious for a launch of this type of service... Hasn’t Riga from Scotland been tried by various before even in better times? Seems like a nice carrier though.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:24 pm

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June seems ambitious for a launch of this type of service... Hasn’t Riga from Scotland been tried by various before even in better times? Seems like a nice carrier though.

Ryanair offer a twice weekly service as well.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:50 am

Turkish Airlines starting Direct nonstop services to Antalya (Turkey), albeit its only an seasonal summer service. Do EZY also fly there?
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun May 16, 2021 12:54 am

Looks like BA have added more capacity into Edinburgh.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon May 17, 2021 3:15 pm

BA Cityflyer have announced summer seasonal flights to Guernsey:

https://mediacentre.britishairways.com/ ... 86/0/13085
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:17 am

New airline on the route, Edinburgh to Cardiff. Loganair.

Any new updates for the airport?
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:28 pm

After the collapse of stobart air, and loss of services to some cities, can we see any permanement replacement for them from EDI? Aer lingus to come back? More Easyjet flights? Ryanair to jump the hoops?
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:40 pm

Solar farm to be built at the airport:

https://corporate.edinburghairport.com/ ... ble-future

An eleven-acre solar farm is to be constructed on Edinburgh Airport’s airfield as the airport publishes its sustainability strategy, Greater Good. The announcement and strategy comes on the same day as the airport confirms carbon neutral status for emissions under its direct control, demonstrating its commitment to a more sustainable future. The solar farm, the first of its kind at a Scottish airport, will provide 26% of the airport’s energy needs and construction is due to begin later this year. The facility is expected to be operational next summer and has been supported by Scottish Government funding of £2 million. The project is one element of the airport’s new sustainability strategy, Greater Good, which sets out how the airport will work towards being more sustainable now and in the future. An important characteristic of the strategy is the fact that a sustainable future depends on not only reducing environmental impacts, such as carbon, but also how the airport manages and enhances its social and economic impacts The Greater Good strategy focuses on four key pillars to achieve a sustainable future for the airport

Zero Carbon – working in partnership to improve our approach to climate change

Enhancing Scotland – creating an airport to showcase the best of Scotland whilst delivering the best passenger experience possible

Scotland’s Best Business – as a hub and facilitator industry, we will work with our people, passengers and partners to create a business with integrity

Trusted Neighbour – working with our neighbouring communities we will share the benefits of sustainable growth with them and mitigate any negative impacts

The strategy has a number of targets within it, such as such as achieving carbon neutrality for direct emissions by 2024, establishing a campus wide sustainability standard as well as a Cleaner Engine Standard. The Greater Good strategy also takes into account some of the work already being carried out at the airport, such as purchasing 100% renewable electricity since 2018, diverting all waste from landfill, paying all staff the Real Living Wage and our commitment to the Modern Slavery Act.

Gordon Dewar, Chief Executive of Edinburgh Airport said: “Our sustainability strategy is about more than just carbon; it’s about making our business, Scotland’s gateway to the world, sustainable and a social and economic asset that serves future generations. To do that, we have to carefully consider our impact on the environment and act accordingly. Our operations are already carbon neutral and while we are proud of that, we know there is more to do for the greater good of Scotland. “For an island economy, travel is an important reality and we need to have a sensible conversation about how to balance the desire and need to travel – whether to see family or do business - in the wake of the pandemic and making our industry cleaner and greener. It’s a challenge for all sectors but particularly for ours. “Aviation is a force for good in Scotland. It’s a significant employer and it directly supports tourism, our universities, business and culture, making a major contribution to the economy. “A sustainable future is what we all want and in the year that COP26 comes to Scotland we all have a duty to set out our plans to tackle emissions. We’re excited to get started on that path with the ambitious actions and targets set out in Greater Good.” On the construction of the solar farm, Gordon added: “We are excited to be the UK’s first airport to construct a solar farm on an airfield. Some may doubt the power of sun in Scotland, but our solar farm will deliver around 26% of our energy needs and allow us to deliver energy back into the grid when we produce more than we need. “This project illustrates our commitment to making environmental improvements and is something passengers will actually be able to see as they arrive or depart. We want to be a leading voice and advocate for a new and improved approach. We will continue to identify opportunities to help us move towards our goals because we know Greater Good will evolve with the climate landscape.”

The Scottish Government’s Minister for Transport, Graeme Dey said: “I’m delighted to learn of the heartening efforts of Edinburgh Airport to reduce their emissions. “The solar farm, in particular, illustrates how Government and the aviation industry can work together to help achieve Scotland’s ambitious climate change targets. “Together, we can look to create a future in which we enjoy the social and economic benefits of air travel without having an impact on the environment.”
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:42 pm

Easyjet are launching MAN and Ryanair are launching a seasonal winter service to NAP.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/easy ... 41173.html

https://www.businesstraveller.com/busin ... d-shannon/
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:23 pm

So easyjet have cancelled the MAN flights before they have even started because of the Scottish Gov. restrictions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-57585295

Airline EasyJet will not go ahead with new routes connecting Manchester to Edinburgh and Aberdeen after a recent travel ban by the Scottish government.

The ban on non-essential travel between Scotland and Manchester and Salford came into force on Monday because of concern over rising Covid rates.

Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham is due to hold talks with First Minister Nicola Sturgeon later.

Mr Burnham said he would be seeking a "political route" to end the dispute.

Posting on Twitter, he said the news from EasyJet showed the ban was having a "real impact on Greater Manchester," adding: "Our concerns are genuine."

The Manchester-Edinburgh route, due to take just 65 minutes, was being introduced to replace a service lost when Flybe ceased operations in March 2020.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:17 pm

Breathe wrote:
So easyjet have cancelled the MAN flights before they have even started because of the Scottish Gov. restrictions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-57585295

Airline EasyJet will not go ahead with new routes connecting Manchester to Edinburgh and Aberdeen after a recent travel ban by the Scottish government.

The ban on non-essential travel between Scotland and Manchester and Salford came into force on Monday because of concern over rising Covid rates.

Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham is due to hold talks with First Minister Nicola Sturgeon later.

Mr Burnham said he would be seeking a "political route" to end the dispute.

Posting on Twitter, he said the news from EasyJet showed the ban was having a "real impact on Greater Manchester," adding: "Our concerns are genuine."

The Manchester-Edinburgh route, due to take just 65 minutes, was being introduced to replace a service lost when Flybe ceased operations in March 2020.


This was the first time that I've heard of easyjet wanting to start manchester to Edinburgh, is it really worth it as the train is just 3 hours centre to centre. Non the less good for connections at the airport and heres hoping a reduction in fares
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:01 pm

Breathe wrote:
Solar farm to be built at the airport:

https://corporate.edinburghairport.com/ ... ble-future

An eleven-acre solar farm is to be constructed on Edinburgh Airport’s airfield as the airport publishes its sustainability strategy, Greater Good. The announcement and strategy comes on the same day as the airport confirms carbon neutral status for emissions under its direct control, demonstrating its commitment to a more sustainable future. The solar farm, the first of its kind at a Scottish airport, will provide 26% of the airport’s energy needs and construction is due to begin later this year. The facility is expected to be operational next summer and has been supported by Scottish Government funding of £2 million. The project is one element of the airport’s new sustainability strategy, Greater Good, which sets out how the airport will work towards being more sustainable now and in the future. An important characteristic of the strategy is the fact that a sustainable future depends on not only reducing environmental impacts, such as carbon, but also how the airport manages and enhances its social and economic impacts The Greater Good strategy focuses on four key pillars to achieve a sustainable future for the airport

Zero Carbon – working in partnership to improve our approach to climate change

Enhancing Scotland – creating an airport to showcase the best of Scotland whilst delivering the best passenger experience possible

Scotland’s Best Business – as a hub and facilitator industry, we will work with our people, passengers and partners to create a business with integrity

Trusted Neighbour – working with our neighbouring communities we will share the benefits of sustainable growth with them and mitigate any negative impacts

The strategy has a number of targets within it, such as such as achieving carbon neutrality for direct emissions by 2024, establishing a campus wide sustainability standard as well as a Cleaner Engine Standard. The Greater Good strategy also takes into account some of the work already being carried out at the airport, such as purchasing 100% renewable electricity since 2018, diverting all waste from landfill, paying all staff the Real Living Wage and our commitment to the Modern Slavery Act.

Gordon Dewar, Chief Executive of Edinburgh Airport said: “Our sustainability strategy is about more than just carbon; it’s about making our business, Scotland’s gateway to the world, sustainable and a social and economic asset that serves future generations. To do that, we have to carefully consider our impact on the environment and act accordingly. Our operations are already carbon neutral and while we are proud of that, we know there is more to do for the greater good of Scotland. “For an island economy, travel is an important reality and we need to have a sensible conversation about how to balance the desire and need to travel – whether to see family or do business - in the wake of the pandemic and making our industry cleaner and greener. It’s a challenge for all sectors but particularly for ours. “Aviation is a force for good in Scotland. It’s a significant employer and it directly supports tourism, our universities, business and culture, making a major contribution to the economy. “A sustainable future is what we all want and in the year that COP26 comes to Scotland we all have a duty to set out our plans to tackle emissions. We’re excited to get started on that path with the ambitious actions and targets set out in Greater Good.” On the construction of the solar farm, Gordon added: “We are excited to be the UK’s first airport to construct a solar farm on an airfield. Some may doubt the power of sun in Scotland, but our solar farm will deliver around 26% of our energy needs and allow us to deliver energy back into the grid when we produce more than we need. “This project illustrates our commitment to making environmental improvements and is something passengers will actually be able to see as they arrive or depart. We want to be a leading voice and advocate for a new and improved approach. We will continue to identify opportunities to help us move towards our goals because we know Greater Good will evolve with the climate landscape.”

The Scottish Government’s Minister for Transport, Graeme Dey said: “I’m delighted to learn of the heartening efforts of Edinburgh Airport to reduce their emissions. “The solar farm, in particular, illustrates how Government and the aviation industry can work together to help achieve Scotland’s ambitious climate change targets. “Together, we can look to create a future in which we enjoy the social and economic benefits of air travel without having an impact on the environment.”

My Chemistry teacher would have failed me on Day One for how people talk about Carbon. It's like C and CO2 are the same thing because we're too busy to type two characters. We should move towards being more green but it worries me that crucial details not mattering at this level mean a lot of the rest of the details are equally wrong.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:28 am

BA 773 operating a charter ex EDI to JNB for rugby
Sunday 270621 , dep 1900
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:11 pm

TUI are closing their base in Edinburgh next year. Bad news for the staff based at EDI.

TUI to close Edinburgh Airport base after 'difficult decision' during pandemic

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/ed ... e-20948997

Travel operator TUI is closing down its aircraft base at Edinburgh Airport.

The travel operator say any holidays booked from the airport before summer 2022 will still go ahead as normal, subject to government guidelines.

The airline said that it has been a “difficult decision to remove aircraft based at Edinburgh Airport” from next Autumn, but hope it will help “protect” TUI in the long run.

TUI told Edinburgh Live that while there will no longer be an aircraft base at Edinburgh Airport, locals will still be able to book package holidays from the capital.

The airline is looking at either using other airlines on their Edinburgh package deals or flying in aircraft from other airports to pick Edinburgh passengers up.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:39 pm

That's a shame. Although they've never shown a huge amount of interest in expansion there. Kind of puts paid to anything like that now. Not sure the equivalent LoCo provision they'll use will have the same integrated holiday feel, but I'm guessing out of the single 737 summer only bases, EDI was chosen as some other operators could take up the slack. Wonder if everything will consolidate at GLA now as think ABZ gone also and whether those 4 week Florida's high summer will ever return.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:52 am

by738 wrote:
That's a shame. Although they've never shown a huge amount of interest in expansion there. Kind of puts paid to anything like that now. Not sure the equivalent LoCo provision they'll use will have the same integrated holiday feel, but I'm guessing out of the single 737 summer only bases, EDI was chosen as some other operators could take up the slack. Wonder if everything will consolidate at GLA now as think ABZ gone also and whether those 4 week Florida's high summer will ever return.


I read rumours earlier they might not return to Scottish ops at all, including GLA It seems far fetched when pent up holiday demand is clearly there and we seem to be finally coming through the worst of Covid-19. I guess service stations on the M6 could be the big winners here.
 
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Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:04 pm

Update: Now hearing Tui will consolidate Scottish services at GLA. Source: The local grapevine.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:05 pm

JannEejit wrote:
by738 wrote:
That's a shame. Although they've never shown a huge amount of interest in expansion there. Kind of puts paid to anything like that now. Not sure the equivalent LoCo provision they'll use will have the same integrated holiday feel, but I'm guessing out of the single 737 summer only bases, EDI was chosen as some other operators could take up the slack. Wonder if everything will consolidate at GLA now as think ABZ gone also and whether those 4 week Florida's high summer will ever return.


I read rumours earlier they might not return to Scottish ops at all, including GLA It seems far fetched when pent up holiday demand is clearly there and we seem to be finally coming through the worst of Covid-19. I guess service stations on the M6 could be the big winners here.


With the Delta variant and colombian one spreading gradually around Europe again, the worst is anything but over..UK and Portugal are the worst hit right now and it's only beginning of July
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:04 pm

marcogr12 wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
by738 wrote:
That's a shame. Although they've never shown a huge amount of interest in expansion there. Kind of puts paid to anything like that now. Not sure the equivalent LoCo provision they'll use will have the same integrated holiday feel, but I'm guessing out of the single 737 summer only bases, EDI was chosen as some other operators could take up the slack. Wonder if everything will consolidate at GLA now as think ABZ gone also and whether those 4 week Florida's high summer will ever return.


I read rumours earlier they might not return to Scottish ops at all, including GLA It seems far fetched when pent up holiday demand is clearly there and we seem to be finally coming through the worst of Covid-19. I guess service stations on the M6 could be the big winners here.


With the Delta variant and colombian one spreading gradually around Europe again, the worst is anything but over..UK and Portugal are the worst hit right now and it's only beginning of July


Indeed infections are high but hospitalisations and deaths are low, which is the situation we've been aiming for with the vaccine programme. The point where life returns to relative normality is fast approaching.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:47 pm

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Update: Now hearing Tui will consolidate Scottish services at GLA. Source: The local grapevine.


Incorrect.

GLA will remain a base, ABZ will remain seasonal.

Flights to and from EDI will be operated in W patterns.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:48 am

We need a seasonal direct service to Orlando from EDI. It is one big unserved market where an airline can make the dosh! Im eyeing up Delta on this one.
 
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Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:50 am

To be honest apart from Jet 2 and Ryanair, there really wasnt much of an bucket and spade market from EDI compared to GLA. If we looked at airlines like thomas cook, Tui, BHG Holidays etc, they were very minimal options and operations at EDI.

There either needs to be better investment or like another poster says other airlines will pick up the slack.
 
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Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:07 am

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We need a seasonal direct service to Orlando from EDI. It is one big unserved market where an airline can make the dosh! Im eyeing up Delta on this one.

Very unlikely. Peak seasonal only, would pull from any JFK ops and they don’t operate anything similar, like, anywhere.
TUI w-pattern Florida may still operate and is only hope for this IMO.
 
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Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:01 pm

by738 wrote:
kxngb wrote:
We need a seasonal direct service to Orlando from EDI. It is one big unserved market where an airline can make the dosh! Im eyeing up Delta on this one.

Very unlikely. Peak seasonal only, would pull from any JFK ops and they don’t operate anything similar, like, anywhere.
TUI w-pattern Florida may still operate and is only hope for this IMO.


In all honestly it can just be as likely, as airlines are scavenging around to find routes to help me make money in Covid-19. I would not be surprised if we see more Orlando services from the UK at many airports post covid-19 as families etc would like to flock to disney and the likes. There is demand, but it depends on who would jump the gun first.
 
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:47 pm

kxngb wrote:
We need a seasonal direct service to Orlando from EDI. It is one big unserved market where an airline can make the dosh! Im eyeing up Delta on this one.


My post aged well.

Great to see the addition of Orlando and Barbados by Virign Atlantic! Great to have a new carrier in the city and hopefully more routes to come!
 
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Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:34 pm

A bit out of the blue. VS is to launch Edinburgh to Barbados and Orlando in December.

https://corporate.edinburghairport.com/ ... nd-orlando

Virgin Atlantic, one of the world’s premier carriers, will set up home in Edinburgh later this year, offering direct flights to Barbados and Orlando.

The flight to Barbados will be Scotland’s only direct service to the Caribbean and will launch on 5 December 2021. Flights to Orlando, the theme park capital of the world, will launch on 30 March 2022.

It’s the first time Virgin Atlantic has flown international flights from the Scottish capital in its 37-year history, and the new Caribbean flights will operate twice weekly on an Airbus A330. The Orlando flights will also be twice weekly, operating on an Airbus A330-200.

The new routes offer travellers from Scotland to chance to holiday in the Caribbean, with seamless onward connections from Barbados to Grenada, St Vincent and Tobago thanks to Virgin Atlantic’s connecting flights, alongside flights with Virgin Atlantic’s interline partner, Caribbean Airlines.

The flights to Orlando will also be a huge draw for families looking to experience the world-famous theme parks, stunning beaches and various sporting events in the city and wider Florida.

Virgin Atlantic’s cargo offering will also be an advantage to firms looking to export goods from Scotland to the Caribbean and the USA. It comes as Edinburgh Airport continues to focus on growing its cargo operation to help meet the Scottish Government’s exports targets and contribute to its plan for a more sustainable future for aviation in Scotland.

Gordon Dewar, Chief Executive of Edinburgh Airport said:

“A premier city like Edinburgh deserves premier airlines and we are extremely excited to welcome our newest partner Virgin Atlantic to Scotland’s capital city.

“To be able to deliver flights to Barbados, Scotland’s only direct route to the Caribbean, and Orlando is a fantastic boost to us as we prepare for the post-Covid recovery, and it is a huge show of confidence in Edinburgh Airport’s ability to deliver for passengers across the country.

“We look forward to the new routes launching and watching passengers head off on the holiday of a lifetime from Edinburgh Airport with Virgin Atlantic.”

Juha Jarvinen, Chief Commercial Officer at Virgin Atlantic, commented;

“Commencing international flights from Edinburgh marks an exciting new chapter for Virgin Atlantic and we couldn’t be happier to be flying from a new home in Scotland. I know our teams are itching to show Edinburgh the Virgin Atlantic spirit and flair we’re famous for.

“Our two new routes provide an array of holiday options to suit everyone. From family fun and the thrills of Orlando’s theme parks to the stunning beaches and chilled out vibes in Barbados, we’re confident there’s something to love for all of our Scottish customers.”

Minister for Transport Graeme Dey said:

“I welcome this news of Virgin Atlantic’s commitment to Scotland, and the launch of their new service to Barbados from Edinburgh. It is encouraging to see airlines develop their connectivity to Scotland at this time and I am sure this news will be welcomed by passengers.”

Phil Brown, Chief Executive Officer of the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority, said:

“Safely returning to transatlantic international flights is our continuing goal and today’s announcement by our longtime partner Virgin Atlantic, offering service to Edinburgh, Scotland is a step in that direction.

“From visiting historic castles to world-class golf and seafood Edinburgh offers countless opportunities for business and leisure travel.”

Background

Fares start from as little as £419 and customers on the Barbados route will be able to choose to fly in one of three cabins on the A330, including the luxurious Upper Class, which offers an exclusive bar area and fully flat beds, or Premium, where customers can enjoy a 38” seat pitch, welcome drinks and fine dining.

Virgin Atlantic will be joining its joint venture partner, Delta Air Lines, at its new home in Scotland. Delta currently flies to both New York and Boston from the Scottish capital, with additional partners Air France KLM operating services to both Paris and Amsterdam.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:45 pm

Looks like the new access road could be kicked to the kerb:

Controversial new access route plans for Edinburgh Airport set to be refused by city council

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/ ... il-3344333

In January, Edinburgh Airport applied to Edinburgh City Council’s planning department for permission to construct a new access road and ‘active travel route’ running north-west to south-east between terminal one and the Gogar Roundabout on the A8 dual carriageway.

The current access road to the airport is in poor condition, and pre-pandemic the route was frequently congested with heavy traffic at peak times.

First discussed several years ago, the proposed new road was intended to to reduce congestion on the current airport road and be fully “accessible to general traffic”.

A planning statement, submitted by George Street-based planning consultants, Lichfields, reads: “This preferred alignment removes the need for a substantial amount of dual carriageway road and is significantly less environmentally sensitive as a result of both this reduced carriageway size requirement and location away from the site’s most sensitive receptors – Gogar Burn, Gogar Mains and Gogar Castle.

“Under this option only the small section of road from the southern junction where a connection would be made for International Business Gateway (IBG) traffic would need to be dualled (approximately 0.25km).

“A further advantage of splitting the airport traffic from IBG traffic earlier is that the road to the airport will require less junctions and bus stops and therefore the journey times to the Eastern Terminus will be as short as possible for public and private transport.

“This is important if users are to be persuaded that it is worthwhile taking this route to the airport rather than continuing to use Eastfield Road.”

However, the plans split public opinion, with the council receiving 57 objections and 74 letters of support from Edinburgh residents.

Objections have focussed largely on the environmental impact – with air quality in the vicinity of the route a major concern for objectors – while supporters say the road will reduce congestion and ease commuting for airport workers.

Now, planners are set to reject the proposals as council mandarins say they conflict with the local authority’s plans for a Gogar link road – despite the council’s local development plans being supportive of another airport access route.

A report, sent to councillors head of a crunch meeting of the development management committee on Wednesday August 18, reads: “The principle of a new access road serving the airport is supported by the local development plan (LDP).

“However, this route is intended to be multi-purpose and support the long-term sustainable development of West Edinburgh.

“The proposed route is not consistent with the West Edinburgh Strategic Design Framework (WESDF) and LDP Proposal T9, which safeguards the Gogar Link Road, a route which was subject to comprehensive analysis as part of WETA (West Edinburgh Transport Appraisal) Refresh Study 2016.

“The proposal would not achieve coordinated development, the route alignment would be prejudicial to the delivery of the Gogar Link Road and potentially require the delivery of a second route to achieve the objectives of the LDP.”
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:45 pm

Why will the council object?.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:51 pm

They missed the addition of cycle lanes to the new road or they would've got the council on their knees to approve the road ASAP :roll:
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:14 pm

Vueling are to make BCN a year round service. 2x weekly flights are now bookable on Thursday and Sunday throughout the winter.
 
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:17 pm

Did Iberia /Ibex pull their EDI services?
 
kxngb
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Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2021

Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:55 pm

by738 wrote:
Did Iberia /Ibex pull their EDI services?


Think they were seasonal services, maybe not put on for the season due to covid

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