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Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:03 pm

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August/September always takes a dive for AUS, in line with IAH and most of the Gulf Coast/South Central airports as well.

Sure, but last August took a bigger dive than in years past.

Indeed, but seeing as the delta variant wasn't discovered until December 2020, and wasn't given the common name until May 2021; it can't be the cause of anything regarding passenger behavior in August 2020.

I thought he was referring to the dropoff between July and August 2021, which is larger than the drop off between July and August in previous years.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:18 pm

khowaga wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
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Sure, but last August took a bigger dive than in years past.

Indeed, but seeing as the delta variant wasn't discovered until December 2020, and wasn't given the common name until May 2021; it can't be the cause of anything regarding passenger behavior in August 2020.

I thought he was referring to the dropoff between July and August 2021, which is larger than the drop off between July and August in previous years.

Ah, my bad, I was fixated on 2020 when typing that.

See what he means now. Personally still don't think it's that atypical (if delta variant was scaring people, I'm thinking we'd have seen similar effect for June and July as well) for the August/September dropoff though.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:53 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
khowaga wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Indeed, but seeing as the delta variant wasn't discovered until December 2020, and wasn't given the common name until May 2021; it can't be the cause of anything regarding passenger behavior in August 2020.

I thought he was referring to the dropoff between July and August 2021, which is larger than the drop off between July and August in previous years.

Ah, my bad, I was fixated on 2020 when typing that.

See what he means now. Personally still don't think it's that atypical (if delta variant was scaring people, I'm thinking we'd have seen similar effect for June and July as well) for the August/September dropoff though.

School also started early this year—mostly in person around central Texas—it may just be that people avoided making travel plans then because of the uncertainty about whether we’d all have to pivot back online quickly because of Delta. Will be interesting to see if it rebounds in September.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:11 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
khowaga wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Indeed, but seeing as the delta variant wasn't discovered until December 2020, and wasn't given the common name until May 2021; it can't be the cause of anything regarding passenger behavior in August 2020.

I thought he was referring to the dropoff between July and August 2021, which is larger than the drop off between July and August in previous years.

Ah, my bad, I was fixated on 2020 when typing that.

See what he means now. Personally still don't think it's that atypical (if delta variant was scaring people, I'm thinking we'd have seen similar effect for June and July as well) for the August/September dropoff though.


Aye, that's what I was referring to. Late July and August is when things were really abuzz about the delta variant; I recall this because my family of 4 was in SEA for vacation for two weeks so it wasn't possible to ignore. I suspect that the September and October numbers won't be as much of a drop from August as it was in years past since delta jitters seemed to have subsided by then.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:36 pm

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Aye, that's what I was referring to. Late July and August is when things were really abuzz about the delta variant; I recall this because my family of 4 was in SEA for vacation for two weeks so it wasn't possible to ignore. I suspect that the September and October numbers won't be as much of a drop from August as it was in years past since delta jitters seemed to have subsided by then.

Fair. October tends to be the climbout, so definitely agree there. Not so confident about September.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:13 pm

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BA is operating two flights LHR-AUS today (Sunday; 191, as normally scheduled, and 9110, due in at 1926, both 789). And 191 is operating tomorrow (Monday), even though the resumption schedule was 3x week on Wed/Fri/Sun.

Are these extra flights for Formula 1 or have they already boosted the frequency?

To answer my own question, it appears to have been a capacity boost for F1–there were two flights Sunday, then 191/190 operated Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu - but not since then (even Fri/Sun as normally scheduled). Next week it operates Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:58 pm

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BA is operating two flights LHR-AUS today (Sunday; 191, as normally scheduled, and 9110, due in at 1926, both 789). And 191 is operating tomorrow (Monday), even though the resumption schedule was 3x week on Wed/Fri/Sun.

Are these extra flights for Formula 1 or have they already boosted the frequency?

To answer my own question, it appears to have been a capacity boost for F1–there were two flights Sunday, then 191/190 operated Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu - but not since then (even Fri/Sun as normally scheduled). Next week it operates Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun.


Indeed...I also see the Atlas 744 about to leave AUS for MEX, thought it's been delayed for 50 minutes so far: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KAUS/MMMX

Also, last night BAW did two LHR departures:
BA9607 (772): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/id/ ... b-0003%3a6
BA9606 (789): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/id/ ... -0000%3a10

...other than that I see nothing notable after the F1 race yesterday aside from the usual narrowbodies and a bunch of private/corp jets. I was hoping to see a domestic widebody or two like in years past (e.g., UA 764).
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:28 pm

Western727 wrote:
khowaga wrote:
khowaga wrote:
BA is operating two flights LHR-AUS today (Sunday; 191, as normally scheduled, and 9110, due in at 1926, both 789). And 191 is operating tomorrow (Monday), even though the resumption schedule was 3x week on Wed/Fri/Sun.

Are these extra flights for Formula 1 or have they already boosted the frequency?

To answer my own question, it appears to have been a capacity boost for F1–there were two flights Sunday, then 191/190 operated Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu - but not since then (even Fri/Sun as normally scheduled). Next week it operates Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun.


Indeed...I also see the Atlas 744 about to leave AUS for MEX, thought it's been delayed for 50 minutes so far: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KAUS/MMMX

Also, last night BAW did two LHR departures:
BA9607 (772): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/id/ ... b-0003%3a6
BA9606 (789): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/id/ ... -0000%3a10

...other than that I see nothing notable after the F1 race yesterday aside from the usual narrowbodies and a bunch of private/corp jets. I was hoping to see a domestic widebody or two like in years past (e.g., UA 764).

I remember UA running a couple of AUS-GRU flights after F1 way back in the Before Times, too…
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:11 pm

BA 191 diverted to DFW this afternoon - anyone know why? The weather is clear - MX? Medical?
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:45 pm

Busiest day ever recorded at AUS, 35,298 passed thru security Monday 10/25/21.

https://www.kvue.com/article/traffic/au ... a8076a9958
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:27 pm

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Busiest day ever recorded at AUS, 35,298 passed thru security Monday 10/25/21.

https://www.kvue.com/article/traffic/au ... a8076a9958


Looks like another indicator that folks are hungry for normalcy. I wonder what Monday 24 October 2022 will be like. Like this year, the following F1 race will be in MEX on 30 October 2022.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:47 pm

Internal letter at Envoy saying they’re planning for a 175 maintenance base at AUS. Expect more 175s and a few dozen more jobs at the airport.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:36 pm

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Internal letter at Envoy saying they’re planning for a 175 maintenance base at AUS. Expect more 175s and a few dozen more jobs at the airport.


That's kind of surprising. AA doesn't really fly 175s to AUS due to space constraints, which probably won't be alleviated for years with the projected local population growth, the planned hardstand usage before the midfield concourse is built, and all that.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:19 pm

Western727 wrote:
MLIAA wrote:
Internal letter at Envoy saying they’re planning for a 175 maintenance base at AUS. Expect more 175s and a few dozen more jobs at the airport.


That's kind of surprising. AA doesn't really fly 175s to AUS due to space constraints, which probably won't be alleviated for years with the projected local population growth, the planned hardstand usage before the midfield concourse is built, and all that.


It's to accommodate the current E175 flying, of which there is plenty. They can't add much more flight wise.

I believe they are up to ~20+ E175s a day next month, which isn't normal to fly that many flights from a station and not have some MX capabilities.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:24 pm

MLIAA wrote:
Internal letter at Envoy saying they’re planning for a 175 maintenance base at AUS. Expect more 175s and a few dozen more jobs at the airport.


Do you know if they plan on building a hanger or will the maintenance work be done on the ramp?
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:59 pm

Wacko55 wrote:
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Internal letter at Envoy saying they’re planning for a 175 maintenance base at AUS. Expect more 175s and a few dozen more jobs at the airport.


Do you know if they plan on building a hanger or will the maintenance work be done on the ramp?


I don’t know if they will end up with a hangar or not.

There are some hangars still standing from the Bergstrom days in the middle of the field, could those possibly be used and the parking lot for the South terminal be moved?
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:46 pm

I'm not sure. Master plan shows maintenance hangers being built east of 18L. South terminal scheduled to be closed to make way for expansion and I believe those hangers are scheduled for demolition.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:50 am

Midwestindy wrote:
Western727 wrote:
MLIAA wrote:
Internal letter at Envoy saying they’re planning for a 175 maintenance base at AUS. Expect more 175s and a few dozen more jobs at the airport.


That's kind of surprising. AA doesn't really fly 175s to AUS due to space constraints, which probably won't be alleviated for years with the projected local population growth, the planned hardstand usage before the midfield concourse is built, and all that.


It's to accommodate the current E175 flying, of which there is plenty. They can't add much more flight wise.

I believe they are up to ~20+ E175s a day next month, which isn't normal to fly that many flights from a station and not have some MX capabilities.


Yea a lot of E175s added with the regional adds by AA to places like OKC and TUL.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:07 am

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I'm not sure. Master plan shows maintenance hangers being built east of 18L. South terminal scheduled to be closed to make way for expansion and I believe those hangers are scheduled for demolition.


The good thing about AUS is there is tons of land to work with that has yet to be developed, or the existing infrastructure can be removed.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:07 am

Could anyone see AA doing AUS-HNL and LHR eventually ?
 
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Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:11 am

Indeed we have not really been a CRJ7/regional airline airport for sometime as a lot of stuff has been upgauged to mainline or E70s on even the less busier routes over the years (I recall ORD was once only flown by UA on CR7s).

All the adds by AA are mostly E75 I'm assuming. Not a lot of growth of the CR7 or e145 fleet to be expanding routes with them (instead they are shrinking).
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:21 am

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Could anyone see AA doing AUS-HNL and LHR eventually ?

Doubtful.

They already essentially are on AUS-LHR, since they have an immunized j/v with BA, with shared revenue. Why assign their own metal, especially as their widebody count is lower today than 2yrs ago.

What interest would they have in offering HNL, as there's no real biz contracts to be had, and there's already a nonstop operator on the route.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:44 pm

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Indeed we have not really been a CRJ7/regional airline airport for sometime as a lot of stuff has been upgauged to mainline or E70s on even the less busier routes over the years (I recall ORD was once only flown by UA on CR7s).

All the adds by AA are mostly E75 I'm assuming. Not a lot of growth of the CR7 or e145 fleet to be expanding routes with them (instead they are shrinking).


If any AA wide bodies show up, my guess is NRT and/or something in South America.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:48 pm

Thanks, everyone, for correctly reminding me of AA's big push at AUS and the coming 175 activity to support. Things are going to get interesting with the hard stands coming along. I'm willing to bet NK will use them first, after AUS presumably offers lower lease fees than that of its conventional gates. I could see Envoy using them as as well, though that too is only speculation.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:55 pm

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Indeed we have not really been a CRJ7/regional airline airport for sometime as a lot of stuff has been upgauged to mainline or E70s on even the less busier routes over the years (I recall ORD was once only flown by UA on CR7s).

All the adds by AA are mostly E75 I'm assuming. Not a lot of growth of the CR7 or e145 fleet to be expanding routes with them (instead they are shrinking).


I'm happy with that. Anything below an E70 I avoid whenever possible. I remember the UA CR7-to-ORD days; DL also did SLC with the CR7 and I got stuck on that once as a last minute swap for a cancelled flight. I also once flew on a CR9 roundtrip to DTW only because I wanted the nonstop and because I was a NW gold which meant an upgrade to F was very likely (back then, at least).
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:27 pm

AUS has always been a Class C airspace. Has the FAA considered making it Class B? What's the threshold to transition a Class C to Class B, and when was the last time this happened? Way things are progressing at AUS, it would seem that these discussions have happened, right?
 
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Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:55 pm

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All the adds by AA are mostly E75 I'm assuming. Not a lot of growth of the CR7 or e145 fleet to be expanding routes with them (instead they are shrinking).


About half and half. Most of the international stuff (CUN, LIR, NAS, PUJ, SJU) is mainline (well, will be I should say as the routes are launching next week).

Still, plenty of regional flying added so far. No small regionals though, correct.
 
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Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:38 pm

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AUS has always been a Class C airspace. Has the FAA considered making it Class B? What's the threshold to transition a Class C to Class B, and when was the last time this happened? Way things are progressing at AUS, it would seem that these discussions have happened, right?


I don't know the facts about AUS's possible upgrade personally, but FLL as a randomly chosen comparison airport remains a class charlie. In 2020 (yes, a COVID year, but that's the data Wiki has available):

FLL: 16.4 mil pax and 194k aircraft movements
AUS: 6.4 mil pax and 131k aircraft movements

According to Wikipedia, two of the factors involved in designating an airport's airspace class are the number of passengers served and IFR operations...though no threshold figures are provided. PDX (class charlie too) also beat AUS in both measurements, albeit to a lesser degree than FLL. FLL therefore suggests that it might be some time before we see AUS become bravo. I hope it stays charlie for a while, for as a GA pilot I enjoy overflying AUS to observe the action.

What's interesting is that PIT remains a class bravo but with lower numbers than even AUS. I imagine that's from its heyday as a US hub. Ditto with CLE, probably also from its heyday as a CO hub. These two examples suggest that it's "harder" to downgauge an airspace than the other way around.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:19 pm

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What's interesting is that PIT remains a class bravo but with lower numbers than even AUS. I imagine that's from its heyday as a US hub. Ditto with CLE, probably also from its heyday as a CO hub. These two examples suggest that it's "harder" to downgauge an airspace than the other way around.


Not just those two. MCI, STL, CVG, MSY.. I've always thought it's more to do with politics than anything else.

I think both AUS and SAT need to have some sort of metro area Bravo with a consolidated TRACON (Centex Approach?). That being said it's already hard trying to get a practice ILS approach anywhere in the region...

Are any of the Bravo's even "new"? I don't think there's been a new one since the introduction of the Airspace Class system in the 90's. I imagine AOPA's lobbying would make it a decade-long effort.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:09 pm

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BA 191 diverted to DFW this afternoon - anyone know why? The weather is clear - MX? Medical?


AUS didn't have enough gas for it on the way out, went to DFW to taker fuel for the outbound
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:14 pm

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khowaga wrote:
BA is operating two flights LHR-AUS today (Sunday; 191, as normally scheduled, and 9110, due in at 1926, both 789). And 191 is operating tomorrow (Monday), even though the resumption schedule was 3x week on Wed/Fri/Sun.

Are these extra flights for Formula 1 or have they already boosted the frequency?

To answer my own question, it appears to have been a capacity boost for F1–there were two flights Sunday, then 191/190 operated Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu - but not since then (even Fri/Sun as normally scheduled). Next week it operates Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun.


Those flights were charter for F1 execs, heard from DNATA
 
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Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:13 pm

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khowaga wrote:
BA 191 diverted to DFW this afternoon - anyone know why? The weather is clear - MX? Medical?


AUS didn't have enough gas for it on the way out, went to DFW to taker fuel for the outbound


Intriguing. Was this a problem that affected a bunch of other flights as well?
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:37 pm

There were some seriously strong winds yesterday from the west/northwest depending on where one was coming from. I assume that had something to do with it.
 
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:30 pm

Adding 3 more more TSA lanes by the new year: https://www.kvue.com/article/money/econ ... acd4a09569
 
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Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:04 pm

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Adding 3 more more TSA lanes by the new year: https://www.kvue.com/article/money/econ ... acd4a09569


Thanks for this. I'm not able to understand exactly where the 3 lanes will get added. The PDF linked from the above article states: During Phase 1 of the project, a total of three new machines were installed to increase the passenger screening efficiently at Checkpoints 1 and 2. During Phase 2 of the project, a new Security Screening Checkpoint (SSCP), encompassing three lanes, will be installed to meet the current passenger demands. This is based on additional flight schedules that is forecasted to begin from November 2021.

...so where, exactly, will the three lanes get added? And will they be for Pre-checked and/or Clear, which is my hope...? Checkpoint 1 has only 1 of both, and they can get crowded; the last time I was there the wait wasn't any shorter than for the regular line at Checkpoint 1, hence.

And I don't see how Checkpoint 2 can get a lane added, unless they block off the space between the existing checkpoint and the escalators, thereby forcing all foot traffic exiting the sterile area down the stairs/escalators. Any insight?
 
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Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:37 pm

Western727 wrote:
malev2012 wrote:
Adding 3 more more TSA lanes by the new year: https://www.kvue.com/article/money/econ ... acd4a09569


Thanks for this. I'm not able to understand exactly where the 3 lanes will get added. The PDF linked from the above article states: During Phase 1 of the project, a total of three new machines were installed to increase the passenger screening efficiently at Checkpoints 1 and 2. During Phase 2 of the project, a new Security Screening Checkpoint (SSCP), encompassing three lanes, will be installed to meet the current passenger demands. This is based on additional flight schedules that is forecasted to begin from November 2021.

...so where, exactly, will the three lanes get added? And will they be for Pre-checked and/or Clear, which is my hope...? Checkpoint 1 has only 1 of both, and they can get crowded; the last time I was there the wait wasn't any shorter than for the regular line at Checkpoint 1, hence.

And I don't see how Checkpoint 2 can get a lane added, unless they block off the space between the existing checkpoint and the escalators, thereby forcing all foot traffic exiting the sterile area down the stairs/escalators. Any insight?


Yea I see how they can add 2 lanes to checkpoint 1, perhaps 1 TSA Pre another regular. Checkpoint 2 is anyone's guess.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:02 pm

malev2012 wrote:
Western727 wrote:
malev2012 wrote:
Adding 3 more more TSA lanes by the new year: https://www.kvue.com/article/money/econ ... acd4a09569


Thanks for this. I'm not able to understand exactly where the 3 lanes will get added. The PDF linked from the above article states: During Phase 1 of the project, a total of three new machines were installed to increase the passenger screening efficiently at Checkpoints 1 and 2. During Phase 2 of the project, a new Security Screening Checkpoint (SSCP), encompassing three lanes, will be installed to meet the current passenger demands. This is based on additional flight schedules that is forecasted to begin from November 2021.

...so where, exactly, will the three lanes get added? And will they be for Pre-checked and/or Clear, which is my hope...? Checkpoint 1 has only 1 of both, and they can get crowded; the last time I was there the wait wasn't any shorter than for the regular line at Checkpoint 1, hence.

And I don't see how Checkpoint 2 can get a lane added, unless they block off the space between the existing checkpoint and the escalators, thereby forcing all foot traffic exiting the sterile area down the stairs/escalators. Any insight?


Yea I see how they can add 2 lanes to checkpoint 1, perhaps 1 TSA Pre another regular. Checkpoint 2 is anyone's guess.

I think they’re reopening the old one they closed a few years ago to add more check in space (Allegiant, and then Aeromexico occupied it for a while). I remember reading a while ago that they were planning to open it back up — I could be wrong on this (West Terminal infill? They’ve been doing something on that side for ages), but I also don’t see where there’s any room for expansion at 2…
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:16 pm

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malev2012 wrote:
Western727 wrote:

Thanks for this. I'm not able to understand exactly where the 3 lanes will get added. The PDF linked from the above article states: During Phase 1 of the project, a total of three new machines were installed to increase the passenger screening efficiently at Checkpoints 1 and 2. During Phase 2 of the project, a new Security Screening Checkpoint (SSCP), encompassing three lanes, will be installed to meet the current passenger demands. This is based on additional flight schedules that is forecasted to begin from November 2021.

...so where, exactly, will the three lanes get added? And will they be for Pre-checked and/or Clear, which is my hope...? Checkpoint 1 has only 1 of both, and they can get crowded; the last time I was there the wait wasn't any shorter than for the regular line at Checkpoint 1, hence.

And I don't see how Checkpoint 2 can get a lane added, unless they block off the space between the existing checkpoint and the escalators, thereby forcing all foot traffic exiting the sterile area down the stairs/escalators. Any insight?


Yea I see how they can add 2 lanes to checkpoint 1, perhaps 1 TSA Pre another regular. Checkpoint 2 is anyone's guess.

I think they’re reopening the old one they closed a few years ago to add more check in space (Allegiant, and then Aeromexico occupied it for a while). I remember reading a while ago that they were planning to open it back up — I could be wrong on this (West Terminal infill? They’ve been doing something on that side for ages), but I also don’t see where there’s any room for expansion at 2…


That would make sense, yes. The one that's between the current Checkpoints 1 & 2, and seems to fit the "3 lanes", because like you said there's virtually no room for expansion at 2.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:12 pm

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Yea I see how they can add 2 lanes to checkpoint 1, perhaps 1 TSA Pre another regular. Checkpoint 2 is anyone's guess.

I think they’re reopening the old one they closed a few years ago to add more check in space (Allegiant, and then Aeromexico occupied it for a while). I remember reading a while ago that they were planning to open it back up — I could be wrong on this (West Terminal infill? They’ve been doing something on that side for ages), but I also don’t see where there’s any room for expansion at 2…


That would make sense, yes. The one that's between the current Checkpoints 1 & 2, and seems to fit the "3 lanes", because like you said there's virtually no room for expansion at 2.

Lemme rephrase slightly: I know that they are planning to reopen the checkpoint; it was mentioned in the context of the project to put a roof over baggage claim and install more check in and passenger processing areas on the departure level in that new space.

What I don’t know is if those were intended to be two separate projects, or part of the same big one.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:18 pm

khowaga wrote:
Western727 wrote:
khowaga wrote:
I think they’re reopening the old one they closed a few years ago to add more check in space (Allegiant, and then Aeromexico occupied it for a while). I remember reading a while ago that they were planning to open it back up — I could be wrong on this (West Terminal infill? They’ve been doing something on that side for ages), but I also don’t see where there’s any room for expansion at 2…


That would make sense, yes. The one that's between the current Checkpoints 1 & 2, and seems to fit the "3 lanes", because like you said there's virtually no room for expansion at 2.

Lemme rephrase slightly: I know that they are planning to reopen the checkpoint; it was mentioned in the context of the project to put a roof over baggage claim and install more check in and passenger processing areas on the departure level in that new space.

What I don’t know is if those were intended to be two separate projects, or part of the same big one.


Thanks for the clarification. I wonder as much, though I'm willing to bet that they're going to reopen the checkpoint as they build the new ceiling over the baggage claim area, instead of waiting until that's complete. We need the added capacity pronto so it seems like an easy and temporary fix...but again that's just a guess.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:55 pm

September 2021 Passenger and Cargo Traffic Numbers: http://austintexas.gov/news/september-2 ... -bergstrom
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:59 pm

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of AUS in August 2021:
ABQ-AUS - 8214 passengers, 9427 seats, 87.13% load factor
ATL-AUS - 12740 passengers, 17277 seats, 73.74% load factor
AUS-BNA - 24640 passengers, 34315 seats, 71.81% load factor
AUS-BUR - 6803 passengers, 8723 seats, 77.99% load factor
AUS-BWI - 20192 passengers, 24230 seats, 83.33% load factor
AUS-DAL - 33951 passengers, 52465 seats, 64.71% load factor
AUS-DCA - 8745 passengers, 10244 seats, 85.37% load factor
AUS-DEN - 36699 passengers, 50931 seats, 72.06% load factor
AUS-ECP - 5713 passengers, 9124 seats, 62.62% load factor
AUS-ELP - 8066 passengers, 9171 seats, 87.95% load factor
AUS-FLL - 11837 passengers, 18642 seats, 63.50% load factor
AUS-HOU - 28816 passengers, 41874 seats, 68.82% load factor
AUS-IND - 6224 passengers, 7997 seats, 77.83% load factor
AUS-LAS - 36041 passengers, 43556 seats, 82.75% load factor
AUS-LAX - 14179 passengers, 17198 seats, 82.45% load factor
AUS-LGB - 6606 passengers, 8868 seats, 74.49% load factor
AUS-MCI - 7800 passengers, 9282 seats, 84.03% load factor
AUS-MCO - 22456 passengers, 29721 seats, 75.56% load factor
AUS-MDW - 24563 passengers, 33036 seats, 74.35% load factor
AUS-MIA - 6096 passengers, 10195 seats, 59.79% load factor
AUS-MSP - 5695 passengers, 7579 seats, 75.14% load factor
AUS-MSY - 11348 passengers, 15226 seats, 74.53% load factor
AUS-OAK - 7890 passengers, 9154 seats, 86.19% load factor
AUS-ORD - 5356 passengers, 8580 seats, 62.42% load factor
AUS-PHX - 25430 passengers, 35704 seats, 71.22% load factor
AUS-PNS - 1443 passengers, 2145 seats, 67.27% load factor
AUS-RDU - 7616 passengers, 9828 seats, 77.49% load factor
AUS-SAN - 15735 passengers, 19116 seats, 82.31% load factor
AUS-SJC - 10491 passengers, 14086 seats, 74.48% load factor
AUS-SLC - 6704 passengers, 8612 seats, 77.84% load factor
AUS-SMF - 7561 passengers, 8699 seats, 86.92% load factor
AUS-SNA - 6776 passengers, 7722 seats, 87.75% load factor
AUS-STL - 9073 passengers, 10825 seats, 83.82% load factor
AUS-TPA - 12924 passengers, 19112 seats, 67.62% load factor
AUS-VPS - 1592 passengers, 2574 seats, 61.85% load factor
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:59 pm

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September 2021 Passenger and Cargo Traffic Numbers: http://austintexas.gov/news/september-2 ... -bergstrom


And the DL lethargy continues. AA had almost 50% more enplanements, not to mention the new routes that started in October that will probably widen the gap further. Any guesses at this point as to whether DL has given up on AUS, in spite of having invested in a nice Sky Club here? Or, as a wild guess, are they waiting for KL to start in late March 2022?
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:41 pm

Western727 wrote:
malev2012 wrote:
September 2021 Passenger and Cargo Traffic Numbers: http://austintexas.gov/news/september-2 ... -bergstrom


And the DL lethargy continues. AA had almost 50% more enplanements, not to mention the new routes that started in October that will probably widen the gap further. Any guesses at this point as to whether DL has given up on AUS, in spite of having invested in a nice Sky Club here? Or, as a wild guess, are they waiting for KL to start in late March 2022?


Not to mention that AA has started additional routes in early November to further increase the gap. If they haven't announced anything yet its hard to see them starting new routes in the spring. Heck they don't even offer an MCO route.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:51 pm

Ziyulu wrote:
SumChristianus wrote:
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I guess we won't see pacific routes in 2021.


You get AUS-HNL although that's probably not what you meant.

Any idea on when AUS-LHR actually comes back? I see March 2nd loaded into the schedule and 3x/week on the A350 and moving back to daily in April but I still have my doubts


That's a good start. I'm sick of AA and UA's Hawaii service that only includes a bag of pretzels.



Airlines do NOT care about anything or anyone money money is all, so any long haul domestic flight more than 4 hours should have hot meal service to all passengers, it is just the right thing to do.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:52 pm

When IS AUS going to get a new Asian airline with NS to NRT OR HND or ICN?
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:38 pm

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When IS AUS going to get a new Asian airline with NS to NRT OR HND or ICN?

Don’t hold your breath. Getting LH back, or BA more than 3x/week would be a nice start.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:39 pm

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When IS AUS going to get a new Asian airline with NS to NRT OR HND or ICN?


Demand to Asia is in the dumpster.
 
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Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:11 am

b777900 wrote:
When IS AUS going to get a new Asian airline with NS to NRT OR HND or ICN?


If Dallas and Houston can’t maintain a full schedule of Asia flights then there’s no way AUS will sustain a flight

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