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Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:29 pm

Welcome to the Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2021. Please continue to post your news and your discussion here.

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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:44 pm

Virgin Atlantic close to sale and leaseback deal for two 787 planes for £170m (US$230m)

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/virgi ... 00093.html

"On closing, this financing opportunity regarding two of our 787s will allow us to pay down debt and further improve our cash position going into 2021," a Virgin Atlantic spokesman said in a statement.
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:50 pm

I thought they didn't own any aircraft?
 
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:11 pm

According to Plane Spotters.net, only two 787-9 (out of 17) were owned. Presumably these are the two that are the subject of this $230 million deal.

Four out of seven A350-1000s are also owned. I presume these will be sold and leased back over the next few months.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Virgin-Atlantic
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:05 pm

vhtje wrote:
According to Plane Spotters.net, only two 787-9 (out of 17) were owned. Presumably these are the two that are the subject of this $230 million deal.

Four out of seven A350-1000s are also owned. I presume these will be sold and leased back over the next few months.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Virgin-Atlantic


As at the end of last year, 3 of the 4 owned A350s had Mortgages against them [G-VTEA which is only a month old is the exception] according to G-INFO (although note that details aren't updated in real time on there), which could complicate matters if they wanted to sell and lease them back depending on early repayment penalties?
 
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Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:34 pm

The 787 sale-leaseback deal is completed with Griffin Global Asset Management and Bain Capital Credit.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... on-kempner

Funds are being used for repayment of a $170mil loan from New York-based Davidson Kempner which was part of the rescue plan last year
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:47 pm

How are the loads from MAN/LHR - ISB and LHR - LHR?
 
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Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:18 pm

Virgin started their new 2x weekly 787 "Preighter" route between LHR and EVE today
 
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:52 am

VS should honour Capt Sir Tom Moore on their next A350 with the reg G-VTOM and his name. But it would break the VS tradition of having female-related plane names.
 
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:13 am

VS have moved away from that with the 350s, have a look at the artwork on the nose of Purple Rain
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:16 am

TC957 wrote:
VS should honour Capt Sir Tom Moore on their next A350 with the reg G-VTOM and his name. But it would break the VS tradition of having female-related plane names.

It's not as easy as that, the 350s have likely all had registions allocated now. Plus I'd imagine BA would have the rights to do that, not VS. Also, VS broke with that tradition ages ago.
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:55 am

CWL757 wrote:
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VS should honour Capt Sir Tom Moore on their next A350 with the reg G-VTOM and his name. But it would break the VS tradition of having female-related plane names.

It's not as easy as that, the 350s have likely all had registions allocated now. Plus I'd imagine BA would have the rights to do that, not VS. Also, VS broke with that tradition ages ago.


A 747-100 registered G-VMIA was named "Spirit of Sir Freddie" as a tribute to Sir Freddie Laker in the 1990's, so the tradition of not using a masculine name has been broken before.

As for the A350's, most of the ones delivered so far and on order still have feminine names but the difference is the Flying Icons instead of the Flying Lady. As CWL757 says, it would seem going by what's on Jethro's the remaining undelivered A350's have registrations and names assigned to them. There have also been aircraft named after other things which aren't necessarily feminine (e.g. "Maiden Voyager", "Maiden Tokyo", "Spirit of New York"). There's also the A330neo's which could be used to pay tribute to Captain Sir Tom Moore.

I'm not sure what rights BA have (if any), however I agree it would be nice if at least one airline did some sort of tribute for Captain Sir Tom. He certainly became a national icon during the final 10 months of his life and not just for raising money walking in his back garden.

I wonder if they will also choose to eventually name an aircraft after SRB's mother who sadly passed away a few weeks ago?
 
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:19 pm

Indeed - G-VEVE would be a logical reg as tribute to her.
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:59 pm

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Plus I'd imagine BA would have the rights to do that, not VS.


What rights do you mean, and why would BA have them? Did BA sponsor him or something?
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:43 pm

Nice touch by VS in honouring captain Tom with an aircraft naming!
 
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:34 pm

vhtje wrote:
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Plus I'd imagine BA would have the rights to do that, not VS.


What rights do you mean, and why would BA have them? Did BA sponsor him or something?


I doubt anyone has the rights to his name. BA sponsored him and his family on a trip to Barbados last year. Not sure, that would be a strong enough link.

As for VS, as far as I know, there was no link at all. Naming an aircraft after him would seem rather opportunistic under those circumstances.
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:24 pm

Westerwaelder wrote:
vhtje wrote:
CWL757 wrote:
Plus I'd imagine BA would have the rights to do that, not VS.


What rights do you mean, and why would BA have them? Did BA sponsor him or something?


I doubt anyone has the rights to his name. BA sponsored him and his family on a trip to Barbados last year. Not sure, that would be a strong enough link.

As for VS, as far as I know, there was no link at all. Naming an aircraft after him would seem rather opportunistic under those circumstances.


BA doesn't even name it's aircraft any more whereas Virgin does, so if there's any opportunism at play I can see it at BA. Also BA is not a state airline, so what "rights"people think they have over these things is beyond me ? Either or both airlines can name an aircraft if they choose.
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:11 pm

JannEejit wrote:
Westerwaelder wrote:
vhtje wrote:

What rights do you mean, and why would BA have them? Did BA sponsor him or something?


I doubt anyone has the rights to his name. BA sponsored him and his family on a trip to Barbados last year. Not sure, that would be a strong enough link.

As for VS, as far as I know, there was no link at all. Naming an aircraft after him would seem rather opportunistic under those circumstances.


BA doesn't even name it's aircraft any more whereas Virgin does, so if there's any opportunism at play I can see it at BA. Also BA is not a state airline, so what "rights"people think they have over these things is beyond me ? Either or both airlines can name an aircraft if they choose.

For interest’s sake, here are a few things which have been named after him:
  • A Keighley Bus Company Optare Versa bus
  • A Stagecoach East Alexander Dennis Enviro400 MMC double-decker bus
  • A Great Western Railway Class 800 train
  • A GB Railfreight Class 66 locomotive
  • A West Midlands Police Dutch herder puppy
  • A World Horse Welfare foal
  • A Clydesdale horse
  • A Northamptonshire Fire and Rescue Service powerboat
  • A garden at Bedford Hospital

Perhaps an airline big at Luton or Leeds Bradford might be geographically more appropriate, but surely given the national impact, either BA or VS doing it surely isn’t absurd.

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Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:18 pm

JannEejit wrote:

BA doesn't even name it's aircraft any more .


Not exactly correct.
Midway thru 2018, BA named a B787-8 GZBJJ “Paul Jarvis” after a long serving employee and curator of the BA museum at Waterside.
 
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Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:35 pm

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I wonder if they will also choose to eventually name an aircraft after SRB's mother who sadly passed away a few weeks ago?


Virgin Galactic named a spaceship after her - VMS Eve

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMS_Eve
 
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:00 am

JannEejit wrote:
Westerwaelder wrote:
vhtje wrote:

What rights do you mean, and why would BA have them? Did BA sponsor him or something?


I doubt anyone has the rights to his name. BA sponsored him and his family on a trip to Barbados last year. Not sure, that would be a strong enough link.

As for VS, as far as I know, there was no link at all. Naming an aircraft after him would seem rather opportunistic under those circumstances.


BA doesn't even name it's aircraft any more whereas Virgin does, so if there's any opportunism at play I can see it at BA. Also BA is not a state airline, so what "rights"people think they have over these things is beyond me ? Either or both airlines can name an aircraft if they choose.


Not sure what you are getting at? No one says BA has a claim
I just pointed out they had at least dealings with him while he was alive.
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:49 am

Does it even matter? If I was his family I’d be much happier with a garden or something of that nature named after him than a corporation naming an asset after him that you can’t even go and see (yes they can go spotting but come on).
 
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:36 pm

RvA wrote:
Does it even matter? If I was his family I’d be much happier with a garden or something of that nature named after him than a corporation naming an asset after him that you can’t even go and see (yes they can go spotting but come on).


But plenty of airlines honour aviation pioneers and contributors, by naming aircraft after them, e.g. Qantas on their A380 fleet (Reg Ansett, Bert Hinkler, Nancy Bird-Walton, Charles Ulm, Charles Kingsford Smith, etc). And non-aviation people as well, e.g. Norwegian and their tailfins (Oscar Wilde, Mark Twain, Jane Austen, Robert Burns, Freddie Mercury, etc). It's a nice idea, particularly for a person involved in aviation in some way. Well I think it is, anyway.

Back on topic: how are Virgin's finances doing? Is there any news and developments since the 787 sale and leaseback about a month ago?
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Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:41 pm

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Back on topic: how are Virgin's finances doing? Is there any news and developments since the 787 sale and leaseback about a month ago?


No idea how VS finances are doing but I would imagine life is much easier than a year ago as Sir Richard Branson is fully capable now to help out.

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Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:44 pm

Westerwaelder wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
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I doubt anyone has the rights to his name. BA sponsored him and his family on a trip to Barbados last year. Not sure, that would be a strong enough link.

As for VS, as far as I know, there was no link at all. Naming an aircraft after him would seem rather opportunistic under those circumstances.


BA doesn't even name it's aircraft any more whereas Virgin does, so if there's any opportunism at play I can see it at BA. Also BA is not a state airline, so what "rights"people think they have over these things is beyond me ? Either or both airlines can name an aircraft if they choose.


Not sure what you are getting at? No one says BA has a claim
I just pointed out they had at least dealings with him while he was alive.


I was referring to the notion put forward in a post up thread that BA would 'have the rights' to name an aircraft ahead of Virgin Atlantic. When in fact no such rights exist. And also the idea BA would be opportunistic when they don't have an existing naming policy, whereas VS do.
 
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Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:33 am

How are the Virgin Pakistani routes doing right now for them? Heard the loads have been fantastic and the routes have performed better than expected.
 
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Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:49 pm

According to my calculations the load factor for MAN-ISB in December was 58.97%, however that includes the flights operated by Hi-Fly on behalf of PIA.
 
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Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:16 pm

Per Cirium CEO Weiss says recovery will take until 2023-24 and even then the mix of customers likely will be different with an inherent reduction in business travel.

https://twitter.com/jrobinsuk/status/13 ... 4355393537

Sounds like VS network might turn more leisure focused in the years ahed.
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Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:39 pm

mercure1 wrote:
Per Cirium CEO Weiss says recovery will take until 2023-24 and even then the mix of customers likely will be different with an inherent reduction in business travel.

https://twitter.com/jrobinsuk/status/13 ... 4355393537

Sounds like VS network might turn more leisure focused in the years ahed.


I can imagine they’ll announce Malé at some point since it’s been so popular recently.

Maybe Mauritius and Seychelles too?
 
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Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:07 pm

Mauritius and Seychelles are presently on the " Red list " of countries as far as UK arrivals in concerned, meaning anyone arriving from there has to fork out £1750 and stay in a government-sourced hotel for 10 days. But perhaps points to serve in a year or two.
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Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:24 pm

I do think maybe VS could target more VFR traffic to an extent? Could we ever see services to Bangladesh, Thailand, Philippines, Bali? Albeit it being seasonal services.
 
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TC957 wrote:
Mauritius and Seychelles are presently on the " Red list " of countries as far as UK arrivals in concerned, meaning anyone arriving from there has to fork out £1750 and stay in a government-sourced hotel for 10 days. But perhaps points to serve in a year or two.

On another note, this "red list" is to some extent nonsensical. Mauritius itself has imposed strict quarantine for ALL passengers arriving, and this led to the island registering only one case of community transmission outside quarantine since May 2020. Mauritius is hence deemed as 'COVID-safe' and its inclusion in the list isn't justified at all.
 
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Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:16 am

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I do think maybe VS could target more VFR traffic to an extent? Could we ever see services to Bangladesh, Thailand, Philippines, Bali? Albeit it being seasonal services.


Those places generate plenty of traffic but often at very low margins. And very little premium traffic. Not sure VS would want to splurge their LHR slots on these flights once the pandemic is over. For now? Yes, I could see it.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:59 am

More money needed in the piggy bank.

VS seeks £160mil support to help carry it through slower revenue recovery. £100m of the new funding coming from Virgin Group per sources.

Virgin Atlantic circles further £160m Covid support package
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Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:06 pm

It doesn't look like Delta is loaning additional capital, just deferring $60m that is owed to it as part of the financing package. The only clear cash infusion is from Virgin Group.

https://simpleflying.com/virgin-atlanti ... l-funding/

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Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:55 pm

I believe that the Virgin Manchester - Islamabad flight is pending an temporary upgrade from the 787 to the A351K. Sounds like the flights are doing pretty well!
 
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Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:19 pm

I’ve speculatively booked a trip to Britain in June. All being well I’ll be returning on VS from MAN-ATL.

Anyone know when VS hopes to resume that route? I can’t see anything online.
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Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:55 pm

Wednesdayite wrote:
Anyone know when VS hopes to resume that route? I can’t see anything online.


Same with me but for San Francisco. I really can't tell what's happening with VS's services since the last I checked, they had not even cut April yet and 2 daily sfo-lhr flights were still bookable... although perhaps that has changed in the recent future?
 
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Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:01 pm

According to Galileo, VS is due to recommence LHR - SFO twice-daily from 8th April. But with the US still not accepting leisure visitors, I just can't see that happening so expect a put-back date and / or ad hoc cancellations, certainly for April dates.
 
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Wednesdayite wrote:
I’ve speculatively booked a trip to Britain in June. All being well I’ll be returning on VS from MAN-ATL.

Anyone know when VS hopes to resume that route? I can’t see anything online.

Galileo is showing MAN - ATL recommencing daily from 17 May.
 
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Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:26 pm

TC957 wrote:
Wednesdayite wrote:
I’ve speculatively booked a trip to Britain in June. All being well I’ll be returning on VS from MAN-ATL.

Anyone know when VS hopes to resume that route? I can’t see anything online.

Galileo is showing MAN - ATL recommencing daily from 17 May.


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Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:45 pm

kxngb wrote:
I believe that the Virgin Manchester - Islamabad flight is pending an temporary upgrade from the 787 to the A351K. Sounds like the flights are doing pretty well!


MAN/ISB had an average load factor of just over 75% in February. This included the Hi Fly A330 operating for PIA.
Figures based on my personal calculations.
 
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Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:13 am

Scottiedog wrote:
kxngb wrote:
I believe that the Virgin Manchester - Islamabad flight is pending an temporary upgrade from the 787 to the A351K. Sounds like the flights are doing pretty well!


MAN/ISB had an average load factor of just over 75% in February. This included the Hi Fly A330 operating for PIA.
Figures based on my personal calculations.


Any idea of the load factors for LHR - Lahore flights for BA and VS?
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:57 am

TC957 wrote:
Wednesdayite wrote:
I’ve speculatively booked a trip to Britain in June. All being well I’ll be returning on VS from MAN-ATL.

Anyone know when VS hopes to resume that route? I can’t see anything online.

Galileo is showing MAN - ATL recommencing daily from 17 May.


That does not mean anything currently. Its just a 'we hope' move. Move accurate info will be available in April when the results of the travel review are announced.
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:44 pm

LH658 wrote:
Scottiedog wrote:
kxngb wrote:
I believe that the Virgin Manchester - Islamabad flight is pending an temporary upgrade from the 787 to the A351K. Sounds like the flights are doing pretty well!


MAN/ISB had an average load factor of just over 75% in February. This included the Hi Fly A330 operating for PIA.
Figures based on my personal calculations.


Any idea of the load factors for LHR - Lahore flights for BA and VS?


Sorry but I only keep an eye on Manchester traffic - that's enough, under normal circumstances, to keep me busy.
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:22 am

any start up Orlando MCO updates? If so, equipment?
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:07 am

VS's flights from LHE and ISB since 02Apr to MAN and LHR have been fully sold out even in J class due to a rush of people wanting to return back to UK before 09Apr deadline as Pakistan was put on the red list.

This red list imposition on Pakistan will however dent both VS and BA's PAK loads until 17May at least. In order to save money for the next 6 weeks, VS may want to consider doing a triangular LHR-LHE-ISB-LHR operation 3 times per week instead of operating to both LHE and ISB 3 weekly each.
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 am

crownvic wrote:
any start up Orlando MCO updates? If so, equipment?


I think it will be dependent on Joe Biden allowing travellers from the UK to enter the USA once again and providing the USA isn't on the UK red list.

In terms of aircraft, it's currently looking like A330's from MAN and a mixture of 787's and A330's from LHR. I can't see A350's operating the route until more are delivered.
 
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Re: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon May 17, 2021 3:31 pm

3BNBE wrote:
TC957 wrote:
Mauritius and Seychelles are presently on the " Red list " of countries as far as UK arrivals in concerned, meaning anyone arriving from there has to fork out £1750 and stay in a government-sourced hotel for 10 days. But perhaps points to serve in a year or two.

On another note, this "red list" is to some extent nonsensical. Mauritius itself has imposed strict quarantine for ALL passengers arriving, and this led to the island registering only one case of community transmission outside quarantine since May 2020. Mauritius is hence deemed as 'COVID-safe' and its inclusion in the list isn't justified at all.

Mauritius was served by Virgin (albeit very briefly) in 2008 before the economic crash. So they do have some previous history serving the airline, should the authorities open up the island to tourist traffic, it might be an option for them to serve the island again (they've got to fly their planes somewhere, rather than sitting on the ground doing nothing).

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Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos