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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon May 17, 2021 5:27 pm

Someone83 wrote:
To explain this in a simple way, is that this is part of Norwegian's restructuring and "clean up", where one key element is to have fewer AOC and a simpler structure. Although it do seems counter intuitive to then establish 2 new AOC, it is part of the process ending up with 2 AOCs. One Norwegian and one Swedish, with the latter being their EU AOC

This means their Irish, British, Longhaul and other Norwegian/Swedish etc, in the end will be gone. Unlike previously when they operated flight under DY, D8 etc codes, all future flight will be under the DY code and same callsign. Just being marked as "operated by...."

The streamlining with a Norway/Sweden AOC I understood from before, not so much how yet another pair of AOCs comes into all of this, which that I would have never guessed. Are the existing NAS and NSW AOCs just going away in favor of making two more to transfer everything to almost as like a "clean slate" of AOCs, and the new codes and callsigns are just placeholders that won't actually see active use?
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon May 17, 2021 5:43 pm

mooseofspruce wrote:
Are the existing NAS and NSW AOCs just going away in favor of making two more to transfer everything to almost as like a "clean slate" of AOCs, and the new codes and callsigns are just placeholders that won't actually see active use?


The way I understand it, the answer here is yes
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue May 18, 2021 12:32 pm

As no one objected neither the Dublin or Oslo court decisions for Norwegian's restructuring, Norwegian can go ahead and fulfill the share issue. Which is anyway is being reported as oversubscribed

https://www.flightglobal.com/strategy/n ... 93.article

Low-cost carrier Norwegian aims to complete its court-approved financial restructuring later this month after a deadline passed with no objections filed against the plan.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sat May 22, 2021 5:30 am

Both the new share issues, the private placement and rights issue, and the issue of new perpetual hybrid bonds, were all oversubscribed. Thus the restructuring and refinancing of Norwegian is more or less done

https://newsroom.aviator.aero/norwegian ... tal-raise/
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sat May 22, 2021 7:17 am

Some people never learn...
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sat May 22, 2021 9:52 am

mooseofspruce wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
To explain this in a simple way, is that this is part of Norwegian's restructuring and "clean up", where one key element is to have fewer AOC and a simpler structure. Although it do seems counter intuitive to then establish 2 new AOC, it is part of the process ending up with 2 AOCs. One Norwegian and one Swedish, with the latter being their EU AOC

This means their Irish, British, Longhaul and other Norwegian/Swedish etc, in the end will be gone. Unlike previously when they operated flight under DY, D8 etc codes, all future flight will be under the DY code and same callsign. Just being marked as "operated by...."

The streamlining with a Norway/Sweden AOC I understood from before, not so much how yet another pair of AOCs comes into all of this, which that I would have never guessed. Are the existing NAS and NSW AOCs just going away in favor of making two more to transfer everything to almost as like a "clean slate" of AOCs, and the new codes and callsigns are just placeholders that won't actually see active use?


Wasn't there was a Norwegian Air Norway (DH / NAN / NORSHIP) set up a few years ago with its own separate AOC? Wonder how does it fit in to all this mess

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Air_Norway
https://centreforaviation.com/data/prof ... -norway-as
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/airline/NWN

At the moment, there seems to be no aircraft registered to this "subsidiary"
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/N ... ?refresh=1
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sat May 22, 2021 10:41 am

JeremyXWB wrote:
Wasn't there was a Norwegian Air Norway (DH / NAN / NORSHIP) set up a few years ago with its own separate AOC? Wonder how does it fit in to all this mess


Yes, but I expect that to be closed as well
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue May 25, 2021 10:46 am

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There's apparently yet another Swedish operator with its own AOC under the name Norwegian Air Sweden AOC AB (ICAO NSZ, callsign Norlight), which according to Planespotters already has seven 738s registered to it.

https://aviation.direct/en/norwegian-fo ... -in-sweden
The financially troubled Norwegian group has founded a second operational subsidiary in Sweden. This is called "Norwegian Air Sweden AOC AB" and has already been assigned the ICAO code NSZ.

It was only in 2018 that the low-cost airline founded the offshoot Norwegian Air Sweden, which is assigned the ICAO code NSW. The callsign is Nordic. The new foundation uses the callsign Norlight. What Norwegian is aiming for with a second airline in Sweden is completely unclear. The company didn't want to say anything.

Out of curiosity I checked reservations and a 5x weekly rotation between ARN/OSL is already listed to be operated by it between May 31 and June 27, and a 6x weekly rotation between CPH/OSL between May 20 and June 27, after which the "regular" or "planned" schedules from ARN/CPH resume, with flights operated between DY and the original "Norwegian Air Sweden AB".

In addition, an FAA notice, Planespotters and Airfleets also list yet another Norway AOC under the name Norwegian Air Shuttle AOC AS (ICAO NOZ, callsign Norseman), with four 738s registered to it.

It just boggles the mind even if it's all temporary.


Think we got the answer today, as Norwegian just applied to declare Norwegian Air Sweden AB bankrupt, thus Norwegian Air Sweden AOC AB then will be their new Swedish company
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed May 26, 2021 8:47 am

Norwegian will today mark that they have concluded the restructuring process and will leave the examiner process in Norway and Ireland
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed May 26, 2021 11:29 am

Someone83 wrote:
Norwegian will today mark that they have concluded the restructuring process and will leave the examiner process in Norway and Ireland


I’m glad they made it through the restructuring process and are a healthier airline coming out of Covid-19 than when it hit. It will be interesting to follow the competition in Norway with SAS, Norwegian, Flyr, Wizz and wideroe.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed May 26, 2021 12:06 pm

Anyone want to bet how long Norway will have domestic service by 5 airlines before one of them decides the losses are too great ?
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed May 26, 2021 2:12 pm

Norwegian have more lives than a cat! On a more serious note, its good to see it has survived to live another day for the workers. Hopefully they can go back to basics and don't get carried away again with over ambitious expansions.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed May 26, 2021 3:11 pm

And now when they are putting Norwegian Air Sweden (their old Swedish AOC) into bankruptcy...

https://www.tn.se/article/norwegian-ans ... tterbolag/
At the same time, Norwegian has filed for bankruptcy for its Swedish subsidiary, reports DI. The plan was previously that the company would be liquidated, but debts that could not be settled have forced the company into bankruptcy, according to communications manager Charlotte Holmbergh Jacobsson.


....they are basically letting the Swedish tax-payers taking the bill for their failed business.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sat May 29, 2021 4:49 am

With Wizz seeming to cease domestic Norwegian operations after June 13, Norwegian can reclaim the position as the cost leader on domestic Norwegian
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sun May 30, 2021 7:56 pm

Hi

I have recently noticed that Norwegian is using 2 new air operating certificates ...

Norwegian Air Shuttle AOC ... ICAO NOZ ... Callsign Norseman
Norwegian Air Sweden AOC ... ICAO NSZ ... Callsign Norlight

You also have the original AOC's

Norwegian Air Shuttle ... ICAO NAX ... Callsign Norshuttle
Norwegian Air Sweden ... ICAO NSW ... Callsign Nordic

According to Planespotters.net all 4 AOC's currently have aircraft allocated to them.

https://www.planespotters.net/

Can anyone shed a little light on this please.

How does operating two new AOC's help with the reorganisation of the company?

In time will all aircraft transfer into the new AOC's?

Regards

Len
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sun May 30, 2021 8:24 pm

A340600MAN wrote:

How does operating two new AOC's help with the reorganisation of the company?

In time will all aircraft transfer into the new AOC's?


Well, they applied to a Swedish court to put Norwegian Air Sweden AB into bankruptcy as it still have a lot of debt in it. So they just kill the old ones and start new airlines without debt at the cost of the tax payers.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sun May 30, 2021 9:50 pm

jhz94 wrote:
A340600MAN wrote:

How does operating two new AOC's help with the reorganisation of the company?

In time will all aircraft transfer into the new AOC's?


Well, they applied to a Swedish court to put Norwegian Air Sweden AB into bankruptcy as it still have a lot of debt in it. So they just kill the old ones and start new airlines without debt at the cost of the tax payers.


Is it the taxpayer who pays? Or is it the creditors and vendors to whom Norwegian Air Sweden owed money that pay (since they won't be paid back)? Just curious how bankruptcy works there.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon May 31, 2021 8:43 am

Norwegian plan to restart the following Swedish routes this summer:

June:
ARN: Visby, Copenhagen, Helsinki, Nice, Palma, Alicante, Barcelona, Faro, Athen, Berlin, Burgas, Dubrovnik, Split, Chania, London, Riga og Sarajevo
GOT: Malaga and Alicante

July:
ARN: Kiruna, Vilnius, Palermo, Rome, Rhodes, Prague, Larnaca, Krakow, Budapest and Belgrade

I believe they now only operate Malaga and Alicante, from ARN
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon May 31, 2021 1:01 pm

ricq wrote:
jhz94 wrote:
A340600MAN wrote:

How does operating two new AOC's help with the reorganisation of the company?

In time will all aircraft transfer into the new AOC's?


Well, they applied to a Swedish court to put Norwegian Air Sweden AB into bankruptcy as it still have a lot of debt in it. So they just kill the old ones and start new airlines without debt at the cost of the tax payers.


Is it the taxpayer who pays? Or is it the creditors and vendors to whom Norwegian Air Sweden owed money that pay (since they won't be paid back)? Just curious how bankruptcy works there.


It is the creditors and vendors that will take most of the cost.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon May 31, 2021 2:07 pm

A340600MAN wrote:
Hi

I have recently noticed that Norwegian is using 2 new air operating certificates ...

Norwegian Air Shuttle AOC ... ICAO NOZ ... Callsign Norseman
Norwegian Air Sweden AOC ... ICAO NSZ ... Callsign Norlight

You also have the original AOC's

Norwegian Air Shuttle ... ICAO NAX ... Callsign Norshuttle
Norwegian Air Sweden ... ICAO NSW ... Callsign Nordic

According to Planespotters.net all 4 AOC's currently have aircraft allocated to them.

https://www.planespotters.net/

Can anyone shed a little light on this please.

How does operating two new AOC's help with the reorganisation of the company?

In time will all aircraft transfer into the new AOC's?

Regards

Len

I swear by reading the name I would have thought I am reading a Viking or Asterix comic book or some Nordic fiction......gosh, the names are so special.

On a more serious note, I am not sure if any of forum members can answer the question, it seems like they are coming up with numerous AOCs, name, callsign every other day/month. The old Norwegian Group with various entities spreading all over Europe, hiring in Dublin with staff from Thailand was confusing enough.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon May 31, 2021 3:11 pm

RoyalBrunei757 wrote:
On a more serious note, I am not sure if any of forum members can answer the question, it seems like they are coming up with numerous AOCs, name, callsign every other day/month. The old Norwegian Group with various entities spreading all over Europe, hiring in Dublin with staff from Thailand was confusing enough.


While they structure sure has been messy, as I tried to explain earlier in this thread, the goal is to end up with two operating companies/AOC after the restructuring. One Norwegian AOC for all the Norwegian based operation, that will more or less cover 70% of the traffic with their expected 2022 traffic level. And on EU AOC, based in Sweden, to cover their bases outside of Norway. That will basically be ARN and CPH, and cover 30% of the 2022 traffic

All flights will be marketed under the DY name, but will probably sometimes have an "operated by xxx" tag.

But to reach this state, basically or their former AOC and companies will be liquidated
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:23 am

Norwegian had 225,509 passenger in June, and 15 aircraft in service. Passenger numbers is about exactly the double that of June 2020

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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:52 pm

695.830 passengers in July, 33 active aircraft and a 74,4% load factor
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:11 am

Someone83 wrote:
695.830 passengers in July, 33 active aircraft and a 74,4% load factor


Compared to what Norwegian used to be, 695K passengers is little. Compared to the same period in 2020, it's a remarkable step ahead.

I just wonder if Norwegian can survive, pay the debt and actually make some profit getting just stick to Scandinavia.

Do you see Norwegian getting bigger in say... 2-4 years even if that just means short-haul Europe? Other than Scandinavia they just have some residual bases in Spain which anyway are linked to Scandinavia. They don't fly anymore non-Scandi-touching routes. Do you see them competing in the intra-EU low cost sector at some time in future? They had/still have a great on board product.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:58 pm

a350lover wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
695.830 passengers in July, 33 active aircraft and a 74,4% load factor


Compared to what Norwegian used to be, 695K passengers is little. Compared to the same period in 2020, it's a remarkable step ahead.

I just wonder if Norwegian can survive, pay the debt and actually make some profit getting just stick to Scandinavia.

Do you see Norwegian getting bigger in say... 2-4 years even if that just means short-haul Europe? Other than Scandinavia they just have some residual bases in Spain which anyway are linked to Scandinavia. They don't fly anymore non-Scandi-touching routes. Do you see them competing in the intra-EU low cost sector at some time in future? They had/still have a great on board product.


Remember that the Norwegian we see today is much smaller vs two years ago. Gone is longhaul, and all bases outside of the Nordics (except two small bases at ALC/AGP to serve Spain-Nordic routes). What left and what they will continue to build on is the mainly traffic to/from/within Scandinavia plus a limited network at HEL. This is also what I see Norwegian doing the next few years, and was basically the part of Norwegian that pre-Covid did financially OK

Also remember Norwegian shouldn't have that much debt left to pay, except debt related to leasing. During their financial restructuring (basically a ch.11 process) most of their debt was restructured and written off. Although Norwegian will present their Q2 numbers tomorrow, thus we then will finally be able to see their new balance sheet
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:51 am

Q2 numbers came out today, more or less as expected as Norwegian didn't really start ramping up the traffic untill end June. A loss on operations of 766 MNOK (about $88 mill/ €75 mill), but a net profit of ,6 billion NOK, due to accounting adjustments within their balance sheet after their restruction

But most important: Their net interest bearing debt has been reduced to only NOK 1,7 billion or about $200 million USD
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:32 am

977,719 passengers for Norwegian in September, and 46 active aircraft on average. Up from 790k and 38 active aircraft in August
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:25 am

Is Norwegian currently operating only B737s?
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:34 am

Blerg wrote:
Is Norwegian currently operating only B737s?


Yes, all 787s are dumped for good
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:35 am

Yep,,, long haul market has gone for them.
Good luck to DY for getting back in its feet/wings.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:55 am

Someone83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Is Norwegian currently operating only B737s?


Yes, all 787s are dumped for good


Thank you, did they find a new home or are they stored.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:06 am

Blerg wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Is Norwegian currently operating only B737s?


Yes, all 787s are dumped for good


Thank you, did they find a new home or are they stored.


Returned to lessors or handed back to the creditors during the financial recontruction
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:54 am

With LN-DYM being put back in traffic Oct 23, Norwegian now has all the 51 planned 737-800 activated and in use for 2021
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:02 am

Covid cases have been rising in Denmark, hopefully this doesn't affect air travel especially now just before the winter season when demand is generally weaker.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:06 am

Better that Covid affect air travel when demand is weak, than when demand is strong. November is lousy anyway... but if Xmas was destroyed, Norwegian would lose a large amount of money
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:09 am

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Better that Covid affect air travel when demand is weak, than when demand is strong. November is lousy anyway... but if Xmas was destroyed, Norwegian would lose a large amount of money


Also, a majority of these 51 aircraft is leased on a power-by-the-hour deal until the end of Q1 2022. Thus they don't have to utilize the aircraft fully and can someway flex their capacity a little
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:42 pm

Norwegian has signed an LoI for leasing of 13 additional 737-800

Deliveries in Q4 2021 and Q1 2022, and they are covered by power by the hour agreements in both Winter 21/22 and 22/23. So they will not have to pay leasing if they don’t fully utilize then during the low season

https://newsweb.oslobors.no/message/545258
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:21 am

Norwegian Q3 numbers:

https://www.norwegian.no/globalassets/i ... ue&volume=

Revenue: 1,9 BNOK
EBIT: -295 mill
EBT: +169 mill (there is a financial gain, as part of their restructuring that makes the EBT positive)
Cash: 7,6 BNOK (up 100 MNOK from Q2)
Net interest bearing debt: 0,6 BNOK (i.e "next to nothing)

1 Euro is just under 10 NOK, meaning their net debt is about €60 million, so their debt issue has finally been eliminated
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:17 am

Bostrom wrote:
ricq wrote:
jhz94 wrote:

Well, they applied to a Swedish court to put Norwegian Air Sweden AB into bankruptcy as it still have a lot of debt in it. So they just kill the old ones and start new airlines without debt at the cost of the tax payers.


Is it the taxpayer who pays? Or is it the creditors and vendors to whom Norwegian Air Sweden owed money that pay (since they won't be paid back)? Just curious how bankruptcy works there.


It is the creditors and vendors that will take most of the cost.

Usually the tax payer in the end is the biggest creditor, as the largest bills bankrupt firms leave are VAT, unemployment/employer/wage taxes, pensions and insurances (usually government ministeries and institutes collect and pay out these) and at airports often owned by the government.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:09 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Someone83 wrote:

Yes, all 787s are dumped for good


Thank you, did they find a new home or are they stored.


Returned to lessors or handed back to the creditors during the financial recontruction

They have 37 B787 (8 B787-8 and 29 B787-9) in operation at the time of collapse. Another four completed B787-9 were leaving production line and they did not take up the order.

3 B787-8 will be going to Norse Atlantic Airways

2 B787-9 went to Neos
12 B787-9 will be going to Norse Atlantic Airways
4 B787-9 will be going to LATAM

Leaving 5 B787-8 and 13 B787-9 looking for new homes.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:25 am

On October 31st, Norwegian changed callsigns and ICAO codes, with "Norseman/NOZ" being used for the Norwegian AOC and "Norlight/NSZ" for the ex-Norway routes on the Swedish AOC. Before this it was mostly "Nor Shuttle/NAX" for both, and a few instances of Nortrans/IBK that I noticed on some flights ex-HEL...I don't believe I ever saw them use the "NSW/Nordic" codes but I might've missed them.

The Swedish AOC has also inherited NAI's D8 code while the Norwegian's DY code will remain, so it looks to be DY/D8 IATA codes as before even if the ICAO codes and callsigns have changed.
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:53 pm

It seems that Norwegian (as a holding company) seems to now have 3 airlines
Norwegian Air Shuttle AOC - has 26 737s, IATA DY, ICAO NOZ, nationality = Norway
Norwegian Air Sweden AOC - has 24 737s, IATA D8, ICAO NSZ, nationality = Sweden
Norwegian Air Norway - has 1 737, IATA DH (but uses DY), ICAO NAN, nationality = Norway

I get that labour laws in Norway make it expensive to operate an airline, so there is a separate Swedish company to reduce labour costs. However, why do they have 2 airlines from Norway, with one of those airlines appearing to be nothing more than a token airline with just a single 737 ? Is it really just to keep a permit to fly to the USA ?
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:58 am

davidjohnson6 wrote:
It seems that Norwegian (as a holding company) seems to now have 3 airlines
Norwegian Air Shuttle AOC - has 26 737s, IATA DY, ICAO NOZ, nationality = Norway
Norwegian Air Sweden AOC - has 24 737s, IATA D8, ICAO NSZ, nationality = Sweden
Norwegian Air Norway - has 1 737, IATA DH (but uses DY), ICAO NAN, nationality = Norway

I get that labour laws in Norway make it expensive to operate an airline, so there is a separate Swedish company to reduce labour costs. However, why do they have 2 airlines from Norway, with one of those airlines appearing to be nothing more than a token airline with just a single 737 ? Is it really just to keep a permit to fly to the USA ?


They have the Swedish in on order to have an EU AOC

In Norway they plan is to have one AOC in the end, but it takes a little time getting all assets and rights transfered into the "new" one
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:02 am

Someone83 wrote:
Norwegian has signed an LoI for leasing of 13 additional 737-800

Deliveries in Q4 2021 and Q1 2022, and they are covered by power by the hour agreements in both Winter 21/22 and 22/23. So they will not have to pay leasing if they don’t fully utilize then during the low season

https://newsweb.oslobors.no/message/545258


Looks like these are a mix of former Norwegian aircraft and other used 737-800s

12 of them seems to have been identified:

5 former Norwegian aircraft
LN-DYU
LN-DYT
LN-NGD
LN-NHE (SE-RRI)
LN-NHG (SE-RRH)

7 coming from other operators:
OE-IPV: Will be LN-NIK ex. Shandong and EastarJet
OE-IPU: Will be LN-NIL ex. FlyDubai and EastarJet
OE-IPT: Will be LN-NIM ex. FlyDubai and EastarJet
2-AERP: Will be LN-NIN ex. SpiceJet
2-AERN: Will be LN-NIO ex. SpiceJet
N575AE: Will be LN-NIP ex. Hainan
N781AR: Will be LN-NIQ ex. Hainan
 
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Re: Norwegian News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:49 am

A340600MAN wrote:
Hi

I have recently noticed that Norwegian is using 2 new air operating certificates ...

Norwegian Air Shuttle AOC ... ICAO NOZ ... Callsign Norseman
Norwegian Air Sweden AOC ... ICAO NSZ ... Callsign Norlight

You also have the original AOC's

Norwegian Air Shuttle ... ICAO NAX ... Callsign Norshuttle
Norwegian Air Sweden ... ICAO NSW ... Callsign Nordic

According to Planespotters.net all 4 AOC's currently have aircraft allocated to them.

https://www.planespotters.net/

Can anyone shed a little light on this please.

How does operating two new AOC's help with the reorganisation of the company?

In time will all aircraft transfer into the new AOC's?

Regards

Len



Before the pandemic and all the changes to the AOC structure the only callsigns used were:

"Norshuttle" (NAX) for all DY flightnumbers (LN and SE registered aircraft)
"Nortrans" (IBK) for all D8 flightnumbers. (EI registered aircraft)

Norwegian Air Norway and Norwegain Air Sweden were both operating with NAX callsigns.
This is excluding long haul 787 operation as this changed many times and is discontinued now anyway.


The new AOCs were set up during the restructuring and everything in the whole Norwegian network was operated with DY flightnumbers and Norshuttle callsigns until 31st of October.
From 1st of November it is the following:

"Norseman" (ATC identifier NOZ) for all DY flightnumbers operating out of Norway
"Norlight" (ATC identifier NSZ) for all D8 flightnumbers operating out of all other bases

For both AOCs aircraft are wetleased around so you will see both LN and SE registered aircraft operating for both AOCs.
All flight and cabin crew can operate on both AOCs.

All other callsigns that might still exist on paper are not in use in daily operation any longer.

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