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Cboyle wrote:MHT has an announcement in the coming weeks:
“Hi *****! We hope to be making an announcement in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!”
tomaheath wrote:Cboyle wrote:MHT has an announcement in the coming weeks:
“Hi *****! We hope to be making an announcement in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!”
Could be related to the new cargo terminal the new Amazon distribution center is a go.
Cboyle wrote:tomaheath wrote:Cboyle wrote:MHT has an announcement in the coming weeks:
“Hi *****! We hope to be making an announcement in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!”
Could be related to the new cargo terminal the new Amazon distribution center is a go.
that probably won't be it... cargo wouldn't be good marketing
Cboyle wrote:MHT has an announcement in the coming weeks:
“Hi *****! We hope to be making an announcement in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!”
Boston757 wrote:I keep seeing advertisements for American Airlines flying MIA-PWM non-stop soon. Anyone know when this is scheduled to start and if it’s going to main line? Thanks
Boston757 wrote:I keep seeing advertisements for American Airlines flying MIA-PWM non-stop soon. Anyone know when this is scheduled to start and if it’s going to main line? Thanks
BTVB6Flyer wrote:^^
Yeah I have never understood the 1x weekly flights, same applies for WN and their Sat. or Sun. only flights.
This is one in particular with the late departure from BTV which leaves minimal connections is more puzzling. I would assume this route is mostly connections and yet they really only capture DFW-BTV connections.
For example I have family in the Rio Grande Valley area and to get there from BTV it's always 2 stops. Even with this DFW it misses the connections to BRO/HRL OR it's crazy expensive (from mock bookings I have done).
I hope it does well and they can expand it to 3x weekly maybe down the road. And it's nice to see BTV build it's route presence westwardly, with DEN and DFW, but it's still meh at end of the day. If DL could add MSP back that would be nice, I think that would do well and be a nice alternative to DTW.
If WN doesn't end up in BTV, I think BTV could be a good candidate for Breeze.
We should take back what we can from PBG while PBG basically has zero service.
BTVB6Flyer wrote:^^
Yeah I have never understood the 1x weekly flights, same applies for WN and their Sat. or Sun. only flights.
This is one in particular with the late departure from BTV which leaves minimal connections is more puzzling. I would assume this route is mostly connections and yet they really only capture DFW-BTV connections.
For example I have family in the Rio Grande Valley area and to get there from BTV it's always 2 stops. Even with this DFW it misses the connections to BRO/HRL OR it's crazy expensive (from mock bookings I have done).
I hope it does well and they can expand it to 3x weekly maybe down the road. And it's nice to see BTV build it's route presence westwardly, with DEN and DFW, but it's still meh at end of the day. If DL could add MSP back that would be nice, I think that would do well and be a nice alternative to DTW.
If WN doesn't end up in BTV, I think BTV could be a good candidate for Breeze.
We should take back what we can from PBG while PBG basically has zero service.
BTVB6Flyer wrote:Yeah I have never understood the 1x weekly flights, same applies for WN and their Sat. or Sun. only flights.
This is one in particular with the late departure from BTV which leaves minimal connections is more puzzling. I would assume this route is mostly connections and yet they really only capture DFW-BTV connections.
LotsaRunway wrote:I could see the case for either WN or BZ entering BTV. WN has been entering markets like BTV as of late and nobody really seems to have a handle on what BZ plans. That said, AA, DL, F9 and UA are treating BTV very well with nonstops to places that larger markets don't have direct access to. For example, I still can't understand why PVD doesn't have nonstops to DFW, but smaller markets are worried that the nonstp fares are too high. Until the Canadian border reopens, BTV is already punching way above its weight.
mjgbtv wrote:I figured this was more about Texans going to Vermont than anything else.
jplatts wrote:LotsaRunway wrote:I could see the case for either WN or BZ entering BTV. WN has been entering markets like BTV as of late and nobody really seems to have a handle on what BZ plans. That said, AA, DL, F9 and UA are treating BTV very well with nonstops to places that larger markets don't have direct access to. For example, I still can't understand why PVD doesn't have nonstops to DFW, but smaller markets are worried that the nonstp fares are too high. Until the Canadian border reopens, BTV is already punching way above its weight.
One big difference between BTV and PVD is that BTV is further from other airports such as ALB, BOS, BDL, MHT, and PVD whereas PVD is closer to BDL and BOS.
AA also does not have to worry about losing BTV-DFW O&D passengers to WN connecting options to DAL as AA would in PVD and some other Northeastern markets with WN not currently serving BTV.
There are also bigger holes at PVD than the lack of AA PVD-DFW nonstop service such as the lack of PVD-DEN/BNA nonstop service with DEN and BNA being two of the top destinations traveled to from PVD in Q3 2019 that aren't currently served nonstop from PVD.
WN re-adding PVD-DEN/BNA nonstop service are possibilities with DEN and BNA being two of the top destinations without any nonstop service from PVD. I had also previously mentioned that WN was able to make PVD-DEN nonstop service work after adding BOS-DEN nonstop service but prior to dropping PVD-DEN nonstop service.
Blueknows wrote:BZ is going to fly to ALB. It’s was on the list they filed. WN already requested to fly into BTV years ago. The director said no to them. They wanted to fly BWI/LAS/MCO.
LotsaRunway wrote:I believe that AA has demand to fill PVD flights to DFW between O&D and connecting passengers, but just doesn't do it because they strategically want people to use BOS for those types of flights.
LotsaRunway wrote:I don't expect WN to start DEN or BNA flights at a time that they have cut PVD-BWI to just 3 per day through the summer peak season. Their Boston area service is just collapsing. While BTV lies outside of this region, WN's current lack of interest in the New England has be skeptical about them starting BTV service.
BTVB6Flyer wrote:Can someone explain the Texas to VT demand? I've moved on from BTV being my home airport 10 years ago, but it still remains a 'base' of mine. That said, Texans wanting to fly to VT??? Texas (open), VT (largely closed), re COVID. Yet somehow can't maintain a flight to Florida? Legacy or not...
Blueknows wrote:WN already requested to fly into BTV years ago. The director said no to them. They wanted to fly BWI/LAS/MCO.
mjgbtv wrote:BTVB6Flyer wrote:Can someone explain the Texas to VT demand? I've moved on from BTV being my home airport 10 years ago, but it still remains a 'base' of mine. That said, Texans wanting to fly to VT??? Texas (open), VT (largely closed), re COVID. Yet somehow can't maintain a flight to Florida? Legacy or not...
Regarding COVID, Vermont should be as open as just about anywhere by July. As for Texas to VT, I'm not sure it is so much about VT in particular as a general trend toward vacationing outdoors this summer, and in this case somewhere cooler than Dallas. They added BGR also, I believe.
Cboyle wrote:The MHT announcement will be UA to IAD. Sorry folks.
BTVB6Flyer wrote:Can someone explain the Texas to VT demand? I've moved on from BTV being my home airport 10 years ago, but it still remains a 'base' of mine. That said, Texans wanting to fly to VT??? Texas (open), VT (largely closed), re COVID. Yet somehow can't maintain a flight to Florida? Legacy or not...
airbazar wrote:Exactly. It's the current nationwide trend.
On Vermont: VT has lifted all its travel restrictions as of 4 days ago. All of New England will lift just about all Covid restrictions by the end of the month thanks to the high rate of vaccination acceptance. MA was the last NE state to announce the lifting of Covid restrictions, which will take effect on May 29th.
On Florida: the Florida panhandle and the Texas gulf coast are a day's drive or less from Dallas, and Mexico beaches are just as far as other parts of Florida. That might explain the trouble maintaining a flight to Florida.
Also, the Dallas area has a lot of NE transplants. Some might prefer flying into a place other than BOS.
btvhopper wrote:I'm a little skeptical that's what the basis of this flight is. I think it's more marketing gimmick than anything as a weekly 70-seat regional is still immaterial even for a small airport like BTV with ~1.5M total pax in a "normal" year. Based on my own experience and anecdotes it seems BTV tends to be more of an outbound airport, serving the local market, rather than an inbound airport for leisure travelers visiting Vermont. The vast majority of Vermont tourists come from the Northeastern US region and drive. Those that fly in from a far (such as Texas) seem to vastly prefer flying into Boston, then driving to Vermont. That's just my experience.
PITFlyer330 wrote:
CMHtraveler wrote:PITFlyer330 wrote:
Kudos to the press release author for their creativity in describing the CRJ-200 as “state of the art”.
LotsaRunway wrote:CMHtraveler wrote:PITFlyer330 wrote:
Kudos to the press release author for their creativity in describing the CRJ-200 as “state of the art”.
That is very cute!
I suppose it sounds better than saying it's the least customer friendly regional jet...
Well, a few of these is better than nothing.
Now, on to getting DL to return.
Interesting to note that UA will use gate 4. They used to use Gates 1 and 2, so they are moving. But why not move to gate 5, 6, or 7 so they are more in the flow of the in-use part of the terminal? Why save those gates?
737Jason wrote:LotsaRunway wrote:CMHtraveler wrote:
Kudos to the press release author for their creativity in describing the CRJ-200 as “state of the art”.
That is very cute!
I suppose it sounds better than saying it's the least customer friendly regional jet...
Well, a few of these is better than nothing.
Now, on to getting DL to return.
Interesting to note that UA will use gate 4. They used to use Gates 1 and 2, so they are moving. But why not move to gate 5, 6, or 7 so they are more in the flow of the in-use part of the terminal? Why save those gates?
Its cool to see gate 4 being used after being abandoned so many years. Does anybody think United will add any new routes, and if so, what would they be?
tomaheath wrote:737Jason wrote:LotsaRunway wrote:That is very cute!
I suppose it sounds better than saying it's the least customer friendly regional jet...
Well, a few of these is better than nothing.
Now, on to getting DL to return.
Interesting to note that UA will use gate 4. They used to use Gates 1 and 2, so they are moving. But why not move to gate 5, 6, or 7 so they are more in the flow of the in-use part of the terminal? Why save those gates?
Its cool to see gate 4 being used after being abandoned so many years. Does anybody think United will add any new routes, and if so, what would they be?
The gate change thing has me slightly puzzled. They must not be planning on any additional flights because they’re loosing a gate.
737Jason wrote:tomaheath wrote:737Jason wrote:Its cool to see gate 4 being used after being abandoned so many years. Does anybody think United will add any new routes, and if so, what would they be?
The gate change thing has me slightly puzzled. They must not be planning on any additional flights because they’re loosing a gate.
Why would they be losing a gate, since when they switched to the IAD route instead of Ohare and Newark, they only used gate 1.
SCHATC422 wrote:At this time tomorrow, Breeze will unveil their first destinations and routes. Have to believe with good reason that BDL will be among a few airports in New England included, with BDL-CHS being one of their first routes I’ve heard as a very distinct possibility. I have a feeling PVD will be on there as a destination, as well.
Wneast wrote:I find it funny that people think breeze is going to airports nobody goes too like they will surprise a lot of people
Portlander wrote:Not sure what all of the excitement is with Breeze Airways, their fleet currently consists of 6 Embraer aircraft. I've read that there are many more on order but deliveries won't start until October. Will this airline become smaller version of Allegiant or Spirit in the future with a "disappear in the middle of the night" approach if revenues don't match expectations? I wish them the best in whatever markets they choose tomorrow but help me out if I'm missing something.