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TucsonDave wrote:WN to SYR in 2031!! Can I get an "Amen?"
TucsonDave wrote:WN to SYR in 2021!!! Can I get an "Amen?"
cosyr wrote:I saw that SYR is getting rid of the exit pods https://www.syracuse.com/news/2020/09/s ... -pods.html
I really don't see the problem with them, but I can't imagine they're going back the old method of having someone sit on a stool for 8 hours. Does anyone know more about what is replacing them, and when?
TucsonDave wrote:WN to SYR in 2021!!! Can I get an "Amen?"
TucsonDave wrote:WN to SYR in 2031!! Can I get an "Amen?"
Dominion301 wrote:TucsonDave wrote:WN to SYR in 2021!!! Can I get an "Amen?"
With WN announcing FAT a couple of weeks ago, I'm guessing SYR is now one of the largest metros, in the USA without WN service?
SYRAVGEEK wrote:So. IDK how official this is but. Some people noticed that there were a bunch of airports following Breeze Airways on Twitter. One of the airports was SYR, is it possible we’re on the route map. Imo it makes sense since their fixing up Gate 15 and Breeze would probably use an E-195
cosyr wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:So. IDK how official this is but. Some people noticed that there were a bunch of airports following Breeze Airways on Twitter. One of the airports was SYR, is it possible we’re on the route map. Imo it makes sense since their fixing up Gate 15 and Breeze would probably use an E-195
I don't know how likely, or if it will be one of the first destinations, but SYR was one of B6's first destinations, so it is a market that is on Neeleman's radar. He saw some potential to fill a void in upstate in 2000, and there is certainly still some void, particularly western destinations.
cosyr wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:So. IDK how official this is but. Some people noticed that there were a bunch of airports following Breeze Airways on Twitter. One of the airports was SYR, is it possible we’re on the route map. Imo it makes sense since their fixing up Gate 15 and Breeze would probably use an E-195
I don't know how likely, or if it will be one of the first destinations, but SYR was one of B6's first destinations, so it is a market that is on Neeleman's radar. He saw some potential to fill a void in upstate in 2000, and there is certainly still some void, particularly western destinations.
usflyer msp wrote:cosyr wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:So. IDK how official this is but. Some people noticed that there were a bunch of airports following Breeze Airways on Twitter. One of the airports was SYR, is it possible we’re on the route map. Imo it makes sense since their fixing up Gate 15 and Breeze would probably use an E-195
I don't know how likely, or if it will be one of the first destinations, but SYR was one of B6's first destinations, so it is a market that is on Neeleman's radar. He saw some potential to fill a void in upstate in 2000, and there is certainly still some void, particularly western destinations.
B6's initial destinations were in upstate NY to make Senator Schumer happy so he would arrange for the slot exemptions they needed at JFK -- not because they were particularly attractive markets.
Dominion301 wrote:TucsonDave wrote:WN to SYR in 2021!!! Can I get an "Amen?"
With WN announcing FAT a couple of weeks ago, I'm guessing SYR is now one of the largest metros, in the USA without WN service?
usflyer msp wrote:cosyr wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:So. IDK how official this is but. Some people noticed that there were a bunch of airports following Breeze Airways on Twitter. One of the airports was SYR, is it possible we’re on the route map. Imo it makes sense since their fixing up Gate 15 and Breeze would probably use an E-195
I don't know how likely, or if it will be one of the first destinations, but SYR was one of B6's first destinations, so it is a market that is on Neeleman's radar. He saw some potential to fill a void in upstate in 2000, and there is certainly still some void, particularly western destinations.
B6's initial destinations were in upstate NY to make Senator Schumer happy so he would arrange for the slot exemptions they needed at JFK -- not because they were particularly attractive markets.
maximairways wrote:Buffalo airport posted some pictures of their construction progress on instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/CJeY34lBefd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link.
It looks like they are installing automated glass exit lanes.
SYRAVGEEK wrote:Andy (Cuomo) sending the Nat. Guard to DC. (including the 174th) keep an eye out for charters/military
https://cnycentral.com/news/local/upsta ... washington
cosyr wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:Andy (Cuomo) sending the Nat. Guard to DC. (including the 174th) keep an eye out for charters/military
https://cnycentral.com/news/local/upsta ... washington
I would think the majority would drive, wouldn't they? I've been on the highway passing convoys of troops plenty of times, and I can't imagine they're going to fly with all their equipment and rent cars.
enplaned wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:BREAKING: American Airlines has just announced they will be flying a seasonal flight to MIA from SYR. The outbound will leave on Feb 13th and return on the 20th. Hopefully if this does well, the route will be flown more than once
A *lot* of airlines will be giving upstate another look now that Uncle Chuck is on track to be Majority Leader. He was also instrumental in getting CARES Act II for the airlines and no airline needed it more than AA.
SYRAVGEEK wrote:BREAKING: American Airlines has just announced they will be flying a seasonal flight to MIA from SYR. The outbound will leave on Feb 13th and return on the 20th. Hopefully if this does well, the route will be flown more than once
SYRAVGEEK wrote:cosyr wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:Andy (Cuomo) sending the Nat. Guard to DC. (including the 174th) keep an eye out for charters/military
https://cnycentral.com/news/local/upsta ... washington
I would think the majority would drive, wouldn't they? I've been on the highway passing convoys of troops plenty of times, and I can't imagine they're going to fly with all their equipment and rent cars.
Well they'd probably fly to Andrew AFB and take a convoy to DC, seeing as they mobilized the 105th AW (which uses C130s and C17s) It would make sense to use planes, however idk what the military distance limitations are.
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:BREAKING: American Airlines has just announced they will be flying a seasonal flight to MIA from SYR. The outbound will leave on Feb 13th and return on the 20th. Hopefully if this does well, the route will be flown more than once
Not really seasonal, I believe “one-off” is a better term for the flight to MIA
N965UW wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:cosyr wrote:I would think the majority would drive, wouldn't they? I've been on the highway passing convoys of troops plenty of times, and I can't imagine they're going to fly with all their equipment and rent cars.
Well they'd probably fly to Andrew AFB and take a convoy to DC, seeing as they mobilized the 105th AW (which uses C130s and C17s) It would make sense to use planes, however idk what the military distance limitations are.
The 174th is probably sending personnel from the security forces squadron. No way they're sending Reapers to DC. The 105th is based at SWF and only flies C-17s, no C-130s (which are handled by the Marine Corps Reserve at SWF). I have no inside knowledge of what they're using the 105th for, but they could be mobilizing the base defense squadron only or could be using C-17s to move stuff to DC. It is a pretty short distance though.
dekema2 wrote:maximairways wrote:Buffalo airport posted some pictures of their construction progress on instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/CJeY34lBefd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link.
It looks like they are installing automated glass exit lanes.
I want to see a pier/wing added to the southeast, parallel to the current east wing.
SYRAVGEEK wrote:Southwest Announced Service to MYR (Myrtle Beach, making SYR and ANC the top 2 airports, in terms of pax, without Southwest Service) , EUG (Eugene, Oregon. Yes I'm just as suprised as you are), and BLI (Belingham, Washington. Trying to cut into G4 ig). I assume SYR is gonna be next, right?
cosyr wrote:SYRAVGEEK wrote:Southwest Announced Service to MYR (Myrtle Beach, making SYR and ANC the top 2 airports, in terms of pax, without Southwest Service) , EUG (Eugene, Oregon. Yes I'm just as suprised as you are), and BLI (Belingham, Washington. Trying to cut into G4 ig). I assume SYR is gonna be next, right?
By that logic, Ft Collins, CO should have WN service before with a population of 165k, to SYR's of 142k. I know that's not an apples to apples comparison, since Syracuse has more suburbs, but there are so many factors that WN will judge their destination expansion on.
I think WN will fly to SYR someday, but I make no predictions as to whether it will be 5 years or 15 years from now. It took them some convincing after the AirTran merger for them to stay in ROC, and that is a bigger, arguably more profitable market.
ROCDLFAN wrote:F9 has announced ROC, completing the dart board of Upstate markets. Service commences 5/20 with 3X weekly MCO service on the 320. Given that COVID travel recovery is in its beginning stages with travel restrictions only being lifted within the last week, I’d believe this will significantly help stimulate travel.
ROCDLFAN wrote:F9 has announced ROC, completing the dart board of Upstate markets. Service commences 5/20 with 3X weekly MCO service on the 320. Given that COVID travel recovery is in its beginning stages with travel restrictions only being lifted within the last week, I’d believe this will significantly help stimulate travel.
rocANDtpa wrote:ROCDLFAN wrote:F9 has announced ROC, completing the dart board of Upstate markets. Service commences 5/20 with 3X weekly MCO service on the 320. Given that COVID travel recovery is in its beginning stages with travel restrictions only being lifted within the last week, I’d believe this will significantly help stimulate travel.
Great addition for ROC! F9 seemed to help SYR allot and I believe SYR has overtaken ROC in passenger traffic. Hopefully this new airline will reverse this trend for ROC. I believe DEN will be added soon. Does anyone else see any other routes added by F9 in ROC?
BUFJACK10 wrote:F9 also announced BUF - MYR beginning 6/11. Probably as a response to Spirit temporarily suspending IAG during COVID. Congratulations to ROC with the addition. Any new service makes it easier on all upstate flyers.
ROCDLFAN wrote:With AA extending MIA into May for Memorial Day and potentially further into June, it’s clear there is untapped potential. I’ve long advocated for DEN and SJU non stop from ROC. Given the demand for travel between ROC and SJU, it has absolutely amazed me that a carrier never thought to launch even a Saturday only flight.
FWIW, starting next Saturday, 4/17, WN is bringing back weekly MCO and TPA service, with Tampa operated by the MAX. Will be nice to see the the MAX again up in ROC.
SYRAVGEEK wrote:Southwest Announced Service to MYR (Myrtle Beach, making SYR and ANC the top 2 airports, in terms of pax, without Southwest Service) , EUG (Eugene, Oregon. Yes I'm just as suprised as you are), and BLI (Belingham, Washington. Trying to cut into G4 ig). I assume SYR is gonna be next, right?
Buffalomatt1027 wrote:BUFJACK10 wrote:F9 also announced BUF - MYR beginning 6/11. Probably as a response to Spirit temporarily suspending IAG during COVID. Congratulations to ROC with the addition. Any new service makes it easier on all upstate flyers.
This is good news for BUF MYR ..... Buffalo needs the boarder to open up to completely get back to 100%.
cosyr wrote:Buffalomatt1027 wrote:BUFJACK10 wrote:F9 also announced BUF - MYR beginning 6/11. Probably as a response to Spirit temporarily suspending IAG during COVID. Congratulations to ROC with the addition. Any new service makes it easier on all upstate flyers.
This is good news for BUF MYR ..... Buffalo needs the boarder to open up to completely get back to 100%.
It's going to be a little while longer, since Ontario just entered a new 4 week stay at home order.
ROCDLFAN wrote:WN has added several additional flights to ROC to accommodate for increased demand for May - most notably a second BWI RON that arrives in around 2100 and departs back about 0830 (this runs in addition to the 0620 kick off about 4X a week), as well as a 2nd MCO flight on select Saturday's.
ROCDLFAN wrote:DL has started rolling out their June schedule changes, and unfortunately it appears MSP-BUF/ROC/SYR/ALB is no longer a month to month reduction, but an indefinite suspension. It's a shame, that flight was timed perfectly to be the earliest - and easiest option out to the West Coast - as well as offering several one stop connections to the Rockies.
WN has added several additional flights to ROC to accommodate for increased demand for May - most notably a second BWI RON that arrives in around 2100 and departs back about 0830 (this runs in addition to the 0620 kick off about 4X a week), as well as a 2nd MCO flight on select Saturday's.
SYRAVGEEK wrote:The FL-WN merger was 6 years ago, a lots changed since 2014. SYR has been going through TREMENDOUS growth. We're getting 2 new amazon facilities, we have a world renowned university, and we reacieve passengers from as far as Canada and Scranton. I will say that Rochester does have a bigger market, but SYR has been catching up. It's also important to note that BOTH SW & FL served SYR with good load factors (FL was in the late 90's and SW was Mid-2000's). SYR proved that they have a large market for Low Cost Airlines that fly to Vacation destinations with G4 and F9 jumping in.