wedgetail737 wrote:

Chugach wrote:

Looks like the Kraken are using AC to get over to Spokane today. Appears to be a normal AC A320 and not one of the AC Jetz frames that VIP configured and used by many NHL teams.

BFI-GEG isn’t showing on FlightAware yet, but here’s the inbound from YVR: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7 ... /CYVR/KBFI

A couple things that kind of caught my eye on this:

- Used AC aircraft instead of AS, considering that AS is the Kraken's official airline
- Used BFI instead of PAE, since the Kraken mentioned in a press report that they would use PAE.

AS doesn’t have any VIP configured aircraft that I’m aware of, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Kraken go with another airline for their regular season travel. Most pro sports have it written into bargaining agreements that teams will charter VIP aircraft. DL and AC both have subfleets dedicated to this enterprise.

Chugach wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

Chugach wrote:

Looks like the Kraken are using AC to get over to Spokane today. Appears to be a normal AC A320 and not one of the AC Jetz frames that VIP configured and used by many NHL teams.

BFI-GEG isn’t showing on FlightAware yet, but here’s the inbound from YVR: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA7 ... /CYVR/KBFI

A couple things that kind of caught my eye on this:

- Used AC aircraft instead of AS, considering that AS is the Kraken's official airline
- Used BFI instead of PAE, since the Kraken mentioned in a press report that they would use PAE.

AS doesn’t have any VIP configured aircraft that I’m aware of, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Kraken go with another airline for their regular season travel. Most pro sports have it written into bargaining agreements that teams will charter VIP aircraft. DL and AC both have subfleets dedicated to this enterprise.

There is nothing out there that says AS couldn't create one.

wedgetail737 wrote:

Chugach wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

A couple things that kind of caught my eye on this:

- Used AC aircraft instead of AS, considering that AS is the Kraken's official airline
- Used BFI instead of PAE, since the Kraken mentioned in a press report that they would use PAE.

AS doesn’t have any VIP configured aircraft that I’m aware of, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Kraken go with another airline for their regular season travel. Most pro sports have it written into bargaining agreements that teams will charter VIP aircraft. DL and AC both have subfleets dedicated to this enterprise.

There is nothing out there that says AS couldn't create one.

You are correct. It will be interesting to see if they stick with AC when the regular season starts.

Kraken are back on AC going BFI-YEG tomorrow for a tilt with the Oilers. AC7015 for anyone interested.

We really need non - stop service between Houston, Texas and Spokane, Washington on United. A319 would work well.

dc10lover wrote:

We really need non - stop service between Houston, Texas and Spokane, Washington on United. A319 would work well.

While WN does have nonstop service out of HOU to a few airports such as BUR/MDW/DAL/LGB/OAK that UA doesn't serve nonstop from IAH, UA does serve ORD/DFW/LAX/SFO in the same markets nonstop from IAH.

I probably would not expect WN to add GEG-HOU nonstop service without UA adding GEG-IAH nonstop service as WN doesn't have nonstop service out of HOU/IAH to any markets that UA doesn't currently serve nonstop from IAH.

I agree GEG does need Houston nonstop and PSP, I hope next summer and spring is big for GEG we could use some more nonstops

PAER now has an active FedEx ramp, in the former Dreamlifter facility on the west side of the airfield. Only a 757 for now, I expect an upgauge to come in the coming months.

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of SEA and GEG in July 2021:
BNA-SEA - 8071 passengers, 9026 seats, 89.42% load factor
DAL-SEA - 9205 passengers, 10302 seats, 89.35% load factor
DEN-SEA - 47367 passengers, 52970 seats, 89.42% load factor
LAS-SEA - 35199 passengers, 38521 seats, 91.38% load factor
MCI-SEA - 1342 passengers, 1430 seats, 93.85% load factor
MDW-SEA - 18066 passengers, 19752 seats, 91.46% load factor
OAK-SEA - 39428 passengers, 47015 seats, 83.86% load factor
PHX-SEA - 35702 passengers, 38316 seats, 93.18% load factor
SEA-SJC - 21871 passengers, 24946 seats, 87.67% load factor
SEA-SMF - 36762 passengers, 43932 seats, 83.68% load factor
SEA-STL - 9623 passengers, 10434 seats, 92.23% load factor

DEN-GEG - 24929 passengers, 28014 seats, 88.99% load factor
GEG-LAS - 16730 passengers, 18406 seats, 90.89% load factor
GEG-MDW - 6761 passengers, 7421 seats, 91.11% load factor
GEG-OAK - 13676 passengers, 16302 seats, 83.89% load factor
GEG-PHX - 11554 passengers, 14432 seats, 80.06% load factor
GEG-SJC - 6697 passengers, 7564 seats, 88.54% load factor
GEG-SMF - 7051 passengers, 7692 seats, 91.67% load factor
GEG-SNA - 7410 passengers, 8723 seats, 84.95% load factor

I saw an article on Social Media that AF will return to SEA on 12/6 using A350 aircraft.

jplatts wrote:

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of SEA and GEG in July 2021:
BNA-SEA - 8071 passengers, 9026 seats, 89.42% load factor
DAL-SEA - 9205 passengers, 10302 seats, 89.35% load factor
DEN-SEA - 47367 passengers, 52970 seats, 89.42% load factor
LAS-SEA - 35199 passengers, 38521 seats, 91.38% load factor
MCI-SEA - 1342 passengers, 1430 seats, 93.85% load factor
MDW-SEA - 18066 passengers, 19752 seats, 91.46% load factor
OAK-SEA - 39428 passengers, 47015 seats, 83.86% load factor
PHX-SEA - 35702 passengers, 38316 seats, 93.18% load factor
SEA-SJC - 21871 passengers, 24946 seats, 87.67% load factor
SEA-SMF - 36762 passengers, 43932 seats, 83.68% load factor
SEA-STL - 9623 passengers, 10434 seats, 92.23% load factor

DEN-GEG - 24929 passengers, 28014 seats, 88.99% load factor
GEG-LAS - 16730 passengers, 18406 seats, 90.89% load factor
GEG-MDW - 6761 passengers, 7421 seats, 91.11% load factor
GEG-OAK - 13676 passengers, 16302 seats, 83.89% load factor
GEG-PHX - 11554 passengers, 14432 seats, 80.06% load factor
GEG-SJC - 6697 passengers, 7564 seats, 88.54% load factor
GEG-SMF - 7051 passengers, 7692 seats, 91.67% load factor
GEG-SNA - 7410 passengers, 8723 seats, 84.95% load factor

Hopefully they bring online more nonstops and bring back MDW and SNA year round

Sun Country is adding MSP-GEG: https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/st ... -36720596/

Starts 6/9/22 at 2x weekly (Thursday & Sunday)

Watching the flight radar I'm starting to see flights circle around SEA and a few are diverting to PDX due to the weather situation.

TheZ wrote:

Watching the flight radar I'm starting to see flights circle around SEA and a few are diverting to PDX due to the weather situation.

Not sure what diverting to PDX would do. The weather here in Portland is just as bad, if not worse.

AC4500 wrote:

TheZ wrote:

Watching the flight radar I'm starting to see flights circle around SEA and a few are diverting to PDX due to the weather situation.

Not sure what diverting to PDX would do. The weather here in Portland is just as bad, if not worse.

Looking at FlightRadar24, only 1 has diverted to PDX (AS2163), 3 to YKM, and 1 to PAE. A GEG flight returned to GEG.

DL2372 and DL3675 I believe both diverted to PDX. Things have cleared up a bit and most have left their holding patterns and resuming a normal approach.

We had a pretty vicious (for WA standards) cold front come through a little while ago.

AC4500 wrote:

TheZ wrote:

Watching the flight radar I'm starting to see flights circle around SEA and a few are diverting to PDX due to the weather situation.

Not sure what diverting to PDX would do. The weather here in Portland is just as bad, if not worse.

These mid latitude cyclones trend toward the northeast, and Portland experiences them several hours before Seattle, as the two cities are about 130 miles apart on a North/South axis.

With Southwest starting BLI service this week, how could the ripple effect of the cancellations and delays they're experiencing this week effect the start?

SEA is gaining two returning international airlines and one new one. Westjet Encore starts SEA-YYC on 11/4. AF returns to SEA on 11/8. And Singapore returns in December.

Now that the BLI service has started for Southwest, I've been looking at their website. I can't seem to find a posted schedule, it want you to enter specific dates and destinations. Is there a schedule posted somewhere and I'm just not seeing it?

Yeastbeast wrote:

Now that the BLI service has started for Southwest, I've been looking at their website. I can't seem to find a posted schedule, it want you to enter specific dates and destinations. Is there a schedule posted somewhere and I'm just not seeing it?

Here is a link to the WN flight schedules:
https://www.southwest.com/air/flight-sc ... -SCHEDULES

Here is a link to the WN route map:
https://www.southwest.com/flight/routem ... R-ROUTEMAP

jplatts wrote:

Yeastbeast wrote:

Now that the BLI service has started for Southwest, I've been looking at their website. I can't seem to find a posted schedule, it want you to enter specific dates and destinations. Is there a schedule posted somewhere and I'm just not seeing it?

Here is a link to the WN flight schedules:
https://www.southwest.com/air/flight-sc ... -SCHEDULES

Here is a link to the WN route map:
https://www.southwest.com/flight/routem ... R-ROUTEMAP

Good luck to WN at BLI. Lets see how they do.

Wenatchee (keat) only has one flight Tuesday, Wednesday & Saturday. Usually 2 or 3 flights.

wedgetail737 wrote:

jplatts wrote:

Yeastbeast wrote:

Now that the BLI service has started for Southwest, I've been looking at their website. I can't seem to find a posted schedule, it want you to enter specific dates and destinations. Is there a schedule posted somewhere and I'm just not seeing it?

Here is a link to the WN flight schedules:
https://www.southwest.com/air/flight-sc ... -SCHEDULES

Here is a link to the WN route map:
https://www.southwest.com/flight/routem ... R-ROUTEMAP

Good luck to WN at BLI. Lets see how they do.

I believe Southwest Airlines will be very successful.

dc10lover wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

jplatts wrote:

Here is a link to the WN flight schedules:
https://www.southwest.com/air/flight-sc ... -SCHEDULES

Here is a link to the WN route map:
https://www.southwest.com/flight/routem ... R-ROUTEMAP

Good luck to WN at BLI. Lets see how they do.

I believe Southwest Airlines will be very successful.

I really see them adding lots of Sun and outdoor destinations and I think HNL will sneak in there

Wneast wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

Good luck to WN at BLI. Lets see how they do.

I believe Southwest Airlines will be very successful.

I really see them adding lots of Sun and outdoor destinations and I think HNL will sneak in there

I don't doubt that WN will be successful at BLI, but I think we need to wait and see how they do with the markets they're starting with (both of which already have BLI service) before we start thinking about more ambitious destinations like Hawaii. DEN has been mentioned as a possible addition and I think that's a realistic possibility if OAK/PHX perform well. MDW could be in the discussion down the road as well. Hawaii strikes me as a long-shot since neither G4 or AS could make it work in the past and WN already seems reticent to go after that market in the PNW.

gunsontheroof wrote:

Wneast wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

I believe Southwest Airlines will be very successful.

I really see them adding lots of Sun and outdoor destinations and I think HNL will sneak in there

I don't doubt that WN will be successful at BLI, but I think we need to wait and see how they do with the markets they're starting with (both of which already have BLI service) before we start thinking about more ambitious destinations like Hawaii. DEN has been mentioned as a possible addition and I think that's a realistic possibility if OAK/PHX perform well. MDW could be in the discussion down the road as well. Hawaii strikes me as a long-shot since neither G4 or AS could make it work in the past and WN already seems reticent to go after that market in the PNW.

I share your view that WN will likely be successful at BLI, though I see sustained, significant growth as a challenge. As I mentioned in the WN thread, we can't deny what happened at BLI after the CAD became weak against the USD in the mid 2010s: G4 and AS both contracted and BLI largely became a ghost town with the QX Q400s to SEA left over. As long as the exchange rate isn't too volatile down the road against the CAD, WN should do well with the YVR crowd. I grew up in SEA and my wife in YVR so it's hard for me to ignore BLI's boom-bust cycle history.

gunsontheroof wrote:

Wneast wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

I believe Southwest Airlines will be very successful.

I really see them adding lots of Sun and outdoor destinations and I think HNL will sneak in there

I don't doubt that WN will be successful at BLI, but I think we need to wait and see how they do with the markets they're starting with (both of which already have BLI service) before we start thinking about more ambitious destinations like Hawaii. DEN has been mentioned as a possible addition and I think that's a realistic possibility if OAK/PHX perform well. MDW could be in the discussion down the road as well. Hawaii strikes me as a long-shot since neither G4 or AS could make it work in the past and WN already seems reticent to go after that market in the PNW.

You mean Oakland and Las Vegas.

dc10lover wrote:

Wenatchee (keat) only has one flight Tuesday, Wednesday & Saturday. Usually 2 or 3 flights.

The airport blames pilot shortage for the cut in flights. Not weak passenger demand.

Here are the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for WN flights out of SEA and GEG in August 2021:
BNA-SEA - 7496 passengers, 8851 seats, 84.69% load factor
DAL-SEA - 9061 passengers, 10778 seats, 84.07% load factor
DEN-SEA - 46172 passengers, 54656 seats, 84.48% load factor
LAS-SEA - 31754 passengers, 37631 seats, 84.38% load factor
MCI-SEA - 1046 passengers, 1144 seats, 91.43% load factor
MDW-SEA - 23050 passengers, 25933 seats, 88.88% load factor
OAK-SEA - 35011 passengers, 47523 seats, 73.67% load factor
PHX-SEA - 32699 passengers, 37870 seats, 86.35% load factor
SEA-SJC - 19123 passengers, 25486 seats, 75.03% load factor
SEA-SMF - 32114 passengers, 44474 seats, 72.21% load factor
SEA-STL - 8687 passengers, 10052 seats, 86.42% load factor

DEN-GEG - 23864 passengers, 28061 seats, 85.04% load factor
GEG-LAS - 15671 passengers, 18581 seats, 84.34% load factor
GEG-MDW - 6631 passengers, 7771 seats, 85.33% load factor
GEG-OAK - 11932 passengers, 15873 seats, 75.17% load factor
GEG-PHX - 8018 passengers, 11079 seats, 72.37% load factor
GEG-SJC - 6140 passengers, 7628 seats, 80.49% load factor
GEG-SMF - 7317 passengers, 8010 seats, 91.35% load factor
GEG-SNA - 7261 passengers, 8866 seats, 81.90% load factor

Maybe AHA! Airlines can serve Bellingham, Washington (Vancouver. British Columbia) in the Spring / Summer of 2022 with non - Stop flights to Reno?

dc10lover wrote:

Maybe AHA! Airlines can serve Bellingham, Washington (Vancouver. British Columbia) in the Spring / Summer of 2022 with non - Stop flights to Reno?

AHA may not last that long if they keep up with the shinanigans they are dealing with now.

wedgetail737 wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

Maybe AHA! Airlines can serve Bellingham, Washington (Vancouver. British Columbia) in the Spring / Summer of 2022 with non - Stop flights to Reno?

AHA may not last that long if they keep up with the shinanigans they are dealing with now.

What shenanigans are those? I’m not familiar with them. What’s going on?

BoeingGuy wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

Maybe AHA! Airlines can serve Bellingham, Washington (Vancouver. British Columbia) in the Spring / Summer of 2022 with non - Stop flights to Reno?

AHA may not last that long if they keep up with the shinanigans they are dealing with now.

What shenanigans are those? I’m not familiar with them. What’s going on?

Lots of delays (some running into hours), cancellations, combination of flights that were supposed to be non-stop. Plenty of unhappy customers.

Looks like they won't be selling packages until January at the earliest as well, which will likely hurt the bottom line in the short term.

And the loads seem poor so far. Although that's not entirely unsurprising given the business model. They need to bring people to Reno before they can take them back!

LOL If I were using them, I would love to have the unexpected additional airport stop en route....but I'll bet that's a minority opinion

sprxUSA wrote:

LOL If I were using them, I would love to have the unexpected additional airport stop en route....but I'll bet that's a minority opinion

If you're an AvGeek, sure. But when you're back from holidays and your 1 hour non-stop has suddenly changed into a 3 hour milk run, with an extra 2 hour delay on top, maybe not so much!

BoeingGuy wrote:

wedgetail737 wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

Maybe AHA! Airlines can serve Bellingham, Washington (Vancouver. British Columbia) in the Spring / Summer of 2022 with non - Stop flights to Reno?

AHA may not last that long if they keep up with the shinanigans they are dealing with now.

What shenanigans are those? I’m not familiar with them. What’s going on?

Just the lack of organization with the airline.

1. The flight from RNO to MFR was supposed to leave at 10am (first flight of the day)...they didn't begin boarding until 10:15, then we sat on the plane for more than an hour while they did weight and balance three times...weighing each bag on a wireless scale. But my 1.5-hour delay was nothing compared to ones I've seen lately with 8-hour delays.

Looks like Turkish Airlines' new Seattle-Istanbul service is rumored to launch on March 9, 2022, though no schedule or equipment has been listed yet. I'd presume that it'll be on either a 787 or A350 to start, with the outside chance of an A330.

https://twitter.com/HavaSosyalMedya/sta ... 4682629126

Seems Delta eliminated all afternoon flights out of Pasco, Washington.

How many flights does PAE have over the holidays?

Boof02671 wrote:

Seems Delta eliminated all afternoon flights out of Pasco, Washington.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KPSC

Delta still has flights.

I wish Alaska would fly the Embraer 175 into Wenatchee, Yakima and Pasco even if tickets are $10 more each way. Jet service is better than propellers and people are more likely to fly if Alaska provided jet service. Very serious!!!

dc10lover wrote:

I wish Alaska would fly the Embraer 175 into Wenatchee, Yakima and Pasco even if tickets are $10 more each way. Jet service is better than propellers and people are more likely to fly if Alaska provided jet service. Very serious!!!

SEA-BLI too for that matter, AS used to fly a 737 on that route even if I remember correctly.

dc10lover wrote:

I wish Alaska would fly the Embraer 175 into Wenatchee, Yakima and Pasco even if tickets are $10 more each way. Jet service is better than propellers and people are more likely to fly if Alaska provided jet service. Very serious!!!

What is better about jets on short flights like that? Burning more fossil fuel?

Aliqiout wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

I wish Alaska would fly the Embraer 175 into Wenatchee, Yakima and Pasco even if tickets are $10 more each way. Jet service is better than propellers and people are more likely to fly if Alaska provided jet service. Very serious!!!

What is better about jets on short flights like that? Burning more fossil fuel?

Raising prices also seems like a great way to increase demand… /sarcasm

TheZ wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

I wish Alaska would fly the Embraer 175 into Wenatchee, Yakima and Pasco even if tickets are $10 more each way. Jet service is better than propellers and people are more likely to fly if Alaska provided jet service. Very serious!!!

SEA-BLI too for that matter, AS used to fly a 737 on that route even if I remember correctly.

Yes...AS used to fly 737's between SEA and BLI, and it could happen again someday.

jbs2886 wrote:

Aliqiout wrote:

dc10lover wrote:

I wish Alaska would fly the Embraer 175 into Wenatchee, Yakima and Pasco even if tickets are $10 more each way. Jet service is better than propellers and people are more likely to fly if Alaska provided jet service. Very serious!!!

What is better about jets on short flights like that? Burning more fossil fuel?

Raising prices also seems like a great way to increase demand… /sarcasm

Nobody in small towns like that is going to bat an eye at a $10 increase (if that were truly what the increase was) in comparison to driving hours over the passes to SeaTac

joeblow10 wrote:

jbs2886 wrote:

Aliqiout wrote:

What is better about jets on short flights like that? Burning more fossil fuel?

Raising prices also seems like a great way to increase demand… /sarcasm

Nobody in small towns like that is going to bat an eye at a $10 increase (if that were truly what the increase was) in comparison to driving hours over the passes to SeaTac

So, to the comment to which I was replying, they would rather spend hours driving over the passes than take a Q400?

joeblow10 wrote:

jbs2886 wrote:

Aliqiout wrote:

What is better about jets on short flights like that? Burning more fossil fuel?

Raising prices also seems like a great way to increase demand… /sarcasm

Nobody in small towns like that is going to bat an eye at a $10 increase (if that were truly what the increase was) in comparison to driving hours over the passes to SeaTac

Does the E-175's have the operating costs that warrant an equipment change over the Q400's. Also, hopefully AS increases the number of flights again.

But just be glad that Yakima and Wenatchee didn't go away when QX retired their smaller Dash 8's.

dc10lover wrote:

Boof02671 wrote:

Seems Delta eliminated all afternoon flights out of Pasco, Washington.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KPSC

Delta still has flights.

This coming February or earlier there are no afternoon flights. I was booked on one and they changed my flights.