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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:22 pm

A few interesting developments, courtesy of our friends over at Skyliner.

Remember that new 737-800F, converted recently at DHN by Commercial Jet, which made a strange stop at IXD (Olathe, Kansas) on it's journey to destinations unknown last week? It has now completed a 5 day journey across the Pacific, via IXD-YEG-ANC-UUS, to ICN. Skyliner has it going to Air Incheon as HL8383, which is probably a typo, as that number is registered to a brand new Asiana A359, currently in service.

Skyliner also reports another frame that is headed to TUM AeroCargo, which arrived in TLC earlier this week after a trans-Atlantic journey. Former registration is 9H-BRE (737-300), and it has flown for a wide variety of operators in Europe. It DOES have a cargo door, which TNT added in the mid-2000s, from what I can tell. Seems like it has rotated between carrying cargo and pax a good bit.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:29 pm

Last time I saw 9H-BRE was BOH back in October.

Where has it been recently?.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:33 pm

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Last time I saw 9H-BRE was BOH back in October.

Where has it been recently?.


It was stored at BOH from January 2019 until this past Sunday, which was when it left for Mexico

CORRECTION: I misread. It actually was stored at BOH from January 2019 to February 2020 and it returned to service for 11 months. It was stored at BOH in Jan 2021 again and was then ferried to TLC this week
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:38 pm

Titan A321F G-DHJH is currently flying north across the UK as AJT081 enroute STN-KEF I am guessing enroute to the USA for use with Amerijet
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:50 pm

darloscott wrote:
Titan A321F G-DHJH is currently flying north across the UK as AJT081 enroute STN-KEF I am guessing enroute to the USA for use with Amerijet


For how long will Amerijet lease this A321F? I can't wait to see it in Curacao :D

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Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:18 pm

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Pattaya would be a terrible location to store an aeroplane for 6 years, IMO.


There were about a hundred things that went through my brain, but my prefrontal cortex wouldn't let me post any of them...
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:25 pm

darloscott wrote:
Titan A321F G-DHJH is currently flying north across the UK as AJT081 enroute STN-KEF I am guessing enroute to the USA for use with Amerijet


Strange that FR24 only shows her with a Titan flight number, but you are correct that FAware has her with the number you mention.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:23 pm

A388 wrote:
darloscott wrote:
Titan A321F G-DHJH is currently flying north across the UK as AJT081 enroute STN-KEF I am guessing enroute to the USA for use with Amerijet


For how long will Amerijet lease this A321F? I can't wait to see it in Curacao :D

A388


The wet-lease is currently approved through July 25.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:33 pm

wjcandee wrote:
darloscott wrote:
Titan A321F G-DHJH is currently flying north across the UK as AJT081 enroute STN-KEF I am guessing enroute to the USA for use with Amerijet


Strange that FR24 only shows her with a Titan flight number, but you are correct that FAware has her with the number you mention.

FR24 does show it as AJT081, ie Amerijet callsign.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:29 pm

Meltdown (or freeze up) in SDF this morning with ice everywhere. Many flights cancelled, worker shortage due to road conditions. Probably a couple of days to get the system back to normal.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:04 pm

MO11 wrote:
A388 wrote:
darloscott wrote:
Titan A321F G-DHJH is currently flying north across the UK as AJT081 enroute STN-KEF I am guessing enroute to the USA for use with Amerijet


For how long will Amerijet lease this A321F? I can't wait to see it in Curacao :D

A388


The wet-lease is currently approved through July 25.


I see it now on the weekly OST docket. Kinda lame Amerijet would go to Titan when they could have used someone more local. (Like, say, Skybus!) But seriously. This is their new CEO in action. We'll see how the new bargaining representative at Amerijet likes it, too.
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:05 pm

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Meltdown (or freeze up) in SDF this morning with ice everywhere. Many flights cancelled, worker shortage due to road conditions. Probably a couple of days to get the system back to normal.


Waaah! I'm expecting some stuff. That explains it.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:36 pm

planespotters.net is now listing Airbus A330-200F MSN 1688 as having been delivered (at least contractually) to Air Belgium from Qatar Airways. It's new registration is OO-CMA.
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Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:59 pm

N394AN did a test flight today at TLV. That's the CAM 767-300 that's supposed to go to Aloha Cargo after conversion. It has been at TLV since 3/31/20, and the cargo door was installed months ago. Apparently, Aloha Cargo was waiting to get ETOPS before leasing it, rather than have ATI fly it like they do N399CM. That's just an impression; the reason for the delay could be something else entirely. Anyway, it finally had a test flight, so we'll see what happens to it next. Aloha's pilots have been saying that they expect ETOPS like right around now, so this does make sense, although we all know what level of reliability pilot rumours have. Still, it's coming from management through them.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:06 am

Been watching our old friend from Western Global, 747-400 N344KD or "FORTY FO". She looks to be AOG since 2/1/21 at ORD after completing a ANC-ORD sector. Do any of our friends have visibility on what the issue is?

One of Aerostan's 747-200Fs was hard at work today. The other had some down time at home plate in Kyrgyzstan.

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Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:35 am

Nice article out there describing some of the differing opinions on the cargo market. How long is the cargo capacity squeeze going to continue? When do passenger aircraft and belly space return in earnest? The differing of opinion in the Executives interviewed is much like this post, which is a good thing to see. It means we are all on the right track in some manner!!!!

https://www.aircargonews.net/business/s ... uncertain/

GAMECO is opening up a third 737NG P2F line at their Guangzhou, China facility. Hot time in the NG P2F market.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:20 am

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kind of a strange diversion or rescue flight... UPS MD-11 Raleigh to SDF diverted all the way to KMCO Orlando? looks like the scheduled MD-11 UPS 1329 from KMCO to SDF may be stuck due to a mechanical as it hasn't left yet nearly 2 hours late..
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS ... /KRDU/KMCO


And apparently the same diversion happened again tonight: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS ... /KRDU/KMCO
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:18 am

MEM is also a disaster for FX, flights were departing 2-10 hours late throughout the day. Many markets were cancelled. Today appears to be more of the same. It may well take through the weekend to get things cleared up.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:44 pm

wjcandee wrote:
brindabella wrote:
Pattaya would be a terrible location to store an aeroplane for 6 years, IMO.


There were about a hundred things that went through my brain, but my prefrontal cortex wouldn't let me post any of them...


Hmmm, would I interpolate too far that you might see merit in storing a frame at Pattaya -

just so you had an excuse to go check that all was well on a (very) regular basis?

:D

Be mad if you didn't.
I surely would

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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:29 pm

Seems like USPS is still struggling. Had a package shipped first class from White Plains, NY to me in NJ, which really should take 2 days. It's day 3, and the package ended up in . . . Nashville? The shenanigans continue into the new year
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:34 pm

gdavis003 wrote:
Seems like USPS is still struggling. Had a package shipped first class from White Plains, NY to me in NJ, which really should take 2 days. It's day 3, and the package ended up in . . . Nashville? The shenanigans continue into the new year


There's something about USPS sending things to Nashville. I had the same thing happen in the past month or two with a package that was coming from north of NYC (like NH, maybe; I'll have to look back), left the origin post office and then disappeared for days. Turns out it drove right past NYC and ended up at the Nashville regional center. Then it had to come back north to NYC. Crazy.
 
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:37 pm

MO11 wrote:
The wet-lease is currently approved through July 25.


Thanks MO11 :)

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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:49 pm

wjcandee wrote:
gdavis003 wrote:
Seems like USPS is still struggling. Had a package shipped first class from White Plains, NY to me in NJ, which really should take 2 days. It's day 3, and the package ended up in . . . Nashville? The shenanigans continue into the new year


There's something about USPS sending things to Nashville. I had the same thing happen in the past month or two with a package that was coming from north of NYC (like NH, maybe; I'll have to look back), left the origin post office and then disappeared for days. Turns out it drove right past NYC and ended up at the Nashville regional center. Then it had to come back north to NYC. Crazy.


So strange, guessing it's happened to others as well. Not sure why packages for NJ/NYC are going to Nashville first, but as long as it gets here, albeit late, fine by me.
 
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:16 pm

I used to run an office for a company in Tucson. They would over night checks from Phoenix via Fed Ex, They would route PHX to OAK to TUS. That is about 1.5 hour drive from PHX to TUS.
 
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:34 pm

N659GT flew today CVG-MIA. It has been moved over to the Maintenance area for change of ownership. Going to Amerijet...…..
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:58 pm

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N659GT flew today CVG-MIA. It has been moved over to the Maintenance area for change of ownership. Going to Amerijet...…..


So far Atlas has transferred three -200s to Amerijet. 656, 657, and 658. Leaves just five more in the "Giant" fleet.

Unreleated. Looking at aircargonews and saw an article about Air Canada wanting to have seven 767F by the end of next year. Really wish they would have kept that baby blue livery.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:17 pm

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N27UADIESEL8 wrote:
N659GT flew today CVG-MIA. It has been moved over to the Maintenance area for change of ownership. Going to Amerijet...…..


So far Atlas has transferred three -200s to Amerijet. 656, 657, and 658. Leaves just five more in the "Giant" fleet.

Unreleated. Looking at aircargonews and saw an article about Air Canada wanting to have seven 767F by the end of next year. Really wish they would have kept that baby blue livery.


We have been seeing some movement on the parked Air Canada/Rouge fleet, but only on the leased aircraft. The owned airframes have not yet seemed to budge towards any conversion houses.
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:30 pm

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So far Atlas has transferred three -200s to Amerijet. 656, 657, and 658. Leaves just five more in the "Giant" fleet. .


With 659, that makes 4 of the 9 DHL 767-200s to AJT. As previously mentioned, AJT just took all the GE-powered ones that came from ANA. The five JT9D-powered ones that came from TWA are still at GTI.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:15 am

It looks like the Air Belgium A330-200Fs will be operated on behalf of the Shipping Line CMA CGM which has announced their intention to enter the Air Cargo market.

Shipping line CMA CGM to launch A330F air cargo operation

France-based container shipping line CMA CGM is set to enter the air cargo market with a fleet of four Airbus A330-200 freighters.

The aircraft will be offered through the carrier’s new CMA CGM Air Cargo division and answer “growing demand” for “agile solutions”.

The CMA CGM group said it would entrust the operation of its freighter fleet to a European airline.

Last year, CMA CGM acquired a 30% stake in Groupe DUBREUIL Aéro as it looked to gain access to air cargo capacity. CMA CGM injected €50m into the airline group, which owns the Air Caraïbes and French Bee companies, for its stake.

Air Caraïbes and French Bee operate 14 long-haul aircraft, including eight Airbus A350s and also six A330s, offering cargo capacity of between 15 and 25 tonnes of freight.


https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/f ... operation/

I didn't know they were a French Bee & Air Caraibes shareholder until now.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:25 am

Spacepope wrote:
jreeves96 wrote:
Looking at aircargonews and saw an article about Air Canada wanting to have seven 767F by the end of next year. Really wish they would have kept that baby blue livery.


We have been seeing some movement on the parked Air Canada/Rouge fleet, but only on the leased aircraft. The owned airframes have not yet seemed to budge towards any conversion houses.


I think we'll see them go to ILN or TPA first, since Air Canada is selling the 767s that they own to CAM, who will convert them and lease them back to Air Canada.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:46 am

One of the resident DC-8Fs was busy today. MIA-GEO-PBM-MIA. Sistership N873SJ continues to call MIA home. Obviously, Skybus moved SJ North for a reason but interesting to see that it continues to sit. Maybe better to pay ramp fees in MIA than Peru, as you are closer to a hungry market.

My schedule may have me down in MIA during the next few weeks. If that lines up I'll have to poke my head around to see what's up.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:53 am

wjcandee wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
jreeves96 wrote:
Looking at aircargonews and saw an article about Air Canada wanting to have seven 767F by the end of next year. Really wish they would have kept that baby blue livery.


We have been seeing some movement on the parked Air Canada/Rouge fleet, but only on the leased aircraft. The owned airframes have not yet seemed to budge towards any conversion houses.


I think we'll see them go to ILN or TPA first, since Air Canada is selling the 767s that they own to CAM, who will convert them and lease them back to Air Canada.


Any thoughts on when we see the 767s start heading South? If Air Canada wants to have 7 operational by the end of 2022, they need to start getting jets prepped, unless they have lined up some one after the other after the other deal.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:18 am

travaz wrote:
I used to run an office for a company in Tucson. They would over night checks from Phoenix via Fed Ex, They would route PHX to OAK to TUS. That is about 1.5 hour drive from PHX to TUS.


Oh I can do you one better. I worked at a company in Cincinnati, OH. One of our vendors based in Covington, KY was slightly annoyed and overnighted us invoices via FedEx. (Presumably to get a signature confirming that we'd received them.) They were perhaps a 20 to 25 minute drive from us. FedEx routed the letter CVG-MEM-CVG. ;-)

I think sometimes these things happen when they run out of time at the end point to sort packages or perhaps don't have enough volume between two points to run an overnight truck on the route. In those cases they can sort it to the nearest hub or just send it to the main hub. In FedEx's case the MEM hub reaches all points. (Unlike OAK which is a hub for the west coast.) In UPS's case SDF is the hub that reaches all points.

I recently overnighted a box from Seattle, Washington to Macon, Georgia. I dropped it off at a UPS dropbox at Boeing Field, which is the airport that UPS uses to serve the Seattle area. The dropbox has a the latest cutoff time in the area of 6:45 p.m. The flight from BFI to SDF is scheduled to leave 49 minutes later at 7:34 p.m. My package didn't show a scan from UPS until it got to SDF.

I wouldn't be surprised if at 6:45 p.m. or so someone goes out to the dropbox, makes a quick hand sort of Next Day Air vs. everything else. The Next Day Air gets put on the plane to SDF, everything else goes to the local center to be processed and sorted.
 
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:29 am

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travaz wrote:
I used to run an office for a company in Tucson. They would over night checks from Phoenix via Fed Ex, They would route PHX to OAK to TUS. That is about 1.5 hour drive from PHX to TUS.


Oh I can do you one better. I worked at a company in Cincinnati, OH. One of our vendors based in Covington, KY was slightly annoyed and overnighted us invoices via FedEx. (Presumably to get a signature confirming that we'd received them.) They were perhaps a 20 to 25 minute drive from us. FedEx routed the letter CVG-MEM-CVG. ;-)

I think sometimes these things happen when they run out of time at the end point to sort packages or perhaps don't have enough volume between two points to run an overnight truck on the route. In those cases they can sort it to the nearest hub or just send it to the main hub. In FedEx's case the MEM hub reaches all points. (Unlike OAK which is a hub for the west coast.) In UPS's case SDF is the hub that reaches all points.

I recently overnighted a box from Seattle, Washington to Macon, Georgia. I dropped it off at a UPS dropbox at Boeing Field, which is the airport that UPS uses to serve the Seattle area. The dropbox has a the latest cutoff time in the area of 6:45 p.m. The flight from BFI to SDF is scheduled to leave 49 minutes later at 7:34 p.m. My package didn't show a scan from UPS until it got to SDF.

I wouldn't be surprised if at 6:45 p.m. or so someone goes out to the dropbox, makes a quick hand sort of Next Day Air vs. everything else. The Next Day Air gets put on the plane to SDF, everything else goes to the local center to be processed and sorted.


If you have a local-hub-local routing on a package, that's improper processing. Every market has an internal numeric routing code designed to keep packages inside that market. But all it takes is one lazy courier or CSA and it gets tossed in the outbound container.

As for PHX to TUS....that's probably a feature, not a bug. Oftentimes it will pattern overnight=air, deferred=truck. In most markets, deferred freight arrives at the market BEFORE the priority freight does. It sits though, until after the priority has been processed. If the company had sent the checks as deferred, they would have arrived at TUS generally that evening or during the night. Sent overnight, they won't get to the TUS ramp until about 4-5am.
 
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:22 pm

HPRamper wrote:
USAirKid wrote:
travaz wrote:
I used to run an office for a company in Tucson. They would over night checks from Phoenix via Fed Ex, They would route PHX to OAK to TUS. That is about 1.5 hour drive from PHX to TUS.


Oh I can do you one better. I worked at a company in Cincinnati, OH. One of our vendors based in Covington, KY was slightly annoyed and overnighted us invoices via FedEx. (Presumably to get a signature confirming that we'd received them.) They were perhaps a 20 to 25 minute drive from us. FedEx routed the letter CVG-MEM-CVG. ;-)

I think sometimes these things happen when they run out of time at the end point to sort packages or perhaps don't have enough volume between two points to run an overnight truck on the route. In those cases they can sort it to the nearest hub or just send it to the main hub. In FedEx's case the MEM hub reaches all points. (Unlike OAK which is a hub for the west coast.) In UPS's case SDF is the hub that reaches all points.

I recently overnighted a box from Seattle, Washington to Macon, Georgia. I dropped it off at a UPS dropbox at Boeing Field, which is the airport that UPS uses to serve the Seattle area. The dropbox has a the latest cutoff time in the area of 6:45 p.m. The flight from BFI to SDF is scheduled to leave 49 minutes later at 7:34 p.m. My package didn't show a scan from UPS until it got to SDF.

I wouldn't be surprised if at 6:45 p.m. or so someone goes out to the dropbox, makes a quick hand sort of Next Day Air vs. everything else. The Next Day Air gets put on the plane to SDF, everything else goes to the local center to be processed and sorted.


If you have a local-hub-local routing on a package, that's improper processing. Every market has an internal numeric routing code designed to keep packages inside that market. But all it takes is one lazy courier or CSA and it gets tossed in the outbound container.

As for PHX to TUS....that's probably a feature, not a bug. Oftentimes it will pattern overnight=air, deferred=truck. In most markets, deferred freight arrives at the market BEFORE the priority freight does. It sits though, until after the priority has been processed. If the company had sent the checks as deferred, they would have arrived at TUS generally that evening or during the night. Sent overnight, they won't get to the TUS ramp until about 4-5am.


OAK was normal routing for Overnight express service PHX to TUS. Fed Ex at the time had a 727 that would fly TUS OAK TUS. My office was near the airport and I would see the 727 all the time. In a way it makes sense as the system is set up and is very efficient.
 
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:54 pm

Looks like Asia Pacific 757-200F N922TS is finally out of maintenance, flew MCI-HNL last night.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N922TS
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:48 pm

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Meltdown (or freeze up) in SDF this morning with ice everywhere. Many flights cancelled, worker shortage due to road conditions. Probably a couple of days to get the system back to normal.


Central Kentucky got hit again last night. All the ice from the last storm melted just a little bit and then refroze making the roads a mess. KYDOT is either short handed or a lack of management... Mother Nature is fun.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:13 pm

i don't know if it's already discussed in a.net,
according to this article Cargojet is getting B777-300ERSF freighters
which making it the second customer to commit to it after Kalitta Air

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/100566-canadas-cargojet-confirms-addition-of-b777-300-freighters
 
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:46 pm

VCVSpotter wrote:
Looks like Asia Pacific 757-200F N922TS is finally out of maintenance, flew MCI-HNL last night.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N922TS


Good catch. Asia Pacific can likely make good use of her.
 
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:49 pm

Rifitto wrote:
i don't know if it's already discussed in a.net,
according to this article Cargojet is getting B777-300ERSF freighters
which making it the second customer to commit to it after Kalitta Air

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/100566-canadas-cargojet-confirms-addition-of-b777-300-freighters


First off, any guy that has an image of a fighter that is gone but not forgotten as their avatar is a friend of mine. Wish the Tomcat 21 had made it into reality.

Wonderful to see Cargojet really stepping out there with the fleet expansion and being the #2 customer for the 777-300ERSF. I believe I "bet" that Cargojet was going to get new facrkey frewg 777Fs. First round on me tonight!

The P2F program now has 2 customers with 5 orders (3) for Kalitta and (2) for Cargojet. With the jets performance & history it should be very successful. Having IAI and GE standing behind it doesn't hurt either.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:04 am

CX747 wrote:
[The P2F program now has 2 customers with 5 orders (3) for Kalitta and (2) for Cargojet. With the jets performance & history it should be very successful. Having IAI and GE standing behind it doesn't hurt either.


Remarkable that the Big Twin cubes out above the 744BCF. And uses 1/5 less fuel. Those two factors alone should drive a lot of conversions once the feedstock becomes affordable and available. The key for GE and IAI is going to be to have the ability to flex up the volume lest others decide to jump in the pool to take advantage of anything IAI can't get accomplished.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:10 am

Air Canada now plans to have 7 converted 767's operational at the end of 2022.
- After the announcement in Jan 2021 of a sale and lease back construction with CAM for 2 aircraft, 5 more 767 converted freighters are now scheduled to be introduced before the end of 2020.

See : https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/f ... reighters/

What serial numbers would be preferred for the conversion, a lot of Air Canada Rouge aircraft are presently stored.
Will all become 767-300BDSF's or are some BCF slots available ?
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:43 am

One of our favourite Georgian 747s, 4L-GEN of Geo-Sky, has done a couple of very unusual flights this weekend.
Instead of continuing her usual TBS-FRA-TBS rotations that's she's been doing very consistently for a while, she instead decided to take a trip TBS-MMX-KIH-TBS.
MMX being Malmö in southern Sweden, and KIH being Kish Island, an Iranian Island in the Persian gulf, known mostly as a resort destination. It would be very interesting to know what kind of cargo she was carrying between those places.

No she's of on another (for her) unusual flight, tracking eastwards out of TBS and just now crossing in to Chinese air space.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:25 pm

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Air Canada now plans to have 7 converted 767's operational at the end of 2022.
- After the announcement in Jan 2021 of a sale and lease back construction with CAM for 2 aircraft, 5 more 767 converted freighters are now scheduled to be introduced before the end of 2020.

See : https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/f ... reighters/

What serial numbers would be preferred for the conversion, a lot of Air Canada Rouge aircraft are presently stored.
Will all become 767-300BDSF's or are some BCF slots available ?


If I remember correctly, the 7 number lines up with the owned aircraft in the fleet, while the majority of 767 were leased. 8 would start with those airframes.

So for example C-FMLZ is ferrying SNN-YYZ today but it is leased, so likely it's just going to have post storage/end of lease MX before going back to the owner. We have seen recent activity on this front however no movement from the owned fleet yet.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:29 pm

Does anyone know if the 4 ex Lufthansa MD11s that FedEx purchased will ever enter service with FedEx? Registrations are N646FE, N647FE, N648FE, and N649FE. All airframes have been in VCV since 2019 and early 2020.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:02 pm

AviatorTravis wrote:
Does anyone know if the 4 ex Lufthansa MD11s that FedEx purchased will ever enter service with FedEx? Registrations are N646FE, N647FE, N648FE, and N649FE. All airframes have been in VCV since 2019 and early 2020.


I believe those were for parts only, but someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:31 am

This is a great interview from today, for those interested, about the operations of JetTest and Transport. Both Steve Giordano and Bob Allen are on this one, and it's a neat interview, even if you've read/listened to a lot about their company. I've always been really intrigued by what they do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwM1sdG32cc

Of note, Steve did mention a few more specifics regarding the MD80s that they moved to BYH for c-checks the other week (around the 59 minute mark). He said that some might be headed to South America, possibly Venezuela, to continue pax operations, and a few others will go to conversion, as we knew. He did say though that USA Jet has an order for more MD-80 freighters, which was new and something that I found interesting. I don't know if they're these ex-Allegiant frames or not though. MO11 mentioned in the Delta thread that USA Jet purchased a trio of MD-88s parked at BYH, so it will be interesting to keep an eye on these DL/G4 MadDogs
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:18 am

Kentucky getting hit AGAIN with winter weather. Less than an inch of ice and then anywhere from 3-12 inches of snow. Should affect CVG, SDF, and LEX. Pulling out the snow shovel for this one.

Also. I was looking through pictures. Does anybody know why Atlas didn't pick up N770BA, MSN 37564, assumingly in 2013? I know a picture caption says performance issues but why wouldn't Atlas wait out a fix? Or was it replaced by another build? Frame was the OG Seahawks plane and now flying for Qatar Cargo. There was also another two not picked up. Were those performance issues as well?
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:06 am

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Kentucky getting hit AGAIN with winter weather. Less than an inch of ice and then anywhere from 3-12 inches of snow. Should affect CVG, SDF, and LEX. Pulling out the snow shovel for this one.

Also. I was looking through pictures. Does anybody know why Atlas didn't pick up N770BA, MSN 37564, assumingly in 2013? I know a picture caption says performance issues but why wouldn't Atlas wait out a fix? Or was it replaced by another build? Frame was the OG Seahawks plane and now flying for Qatar Cargo. There was also another two not picked up. Were those performance issues as well?


The initial jets for Atlas had weight/performance issues. That caused Atlas to pass on them and take later builds.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:16 am

CX747 wrote:
jreeves96 wrote:
Kentucky getting hit AGAIN with winter weather. Less than an inch of ice and then anywhere from 3-12 inches of snow. Should affect CVG, SDF, and LEX. Pulling out the snow shovel for this one.

Also. I was looking through pictures. Does anybody know why Atlas didn't pick up N770BA, MSN 37564, assumingly in 2013? I know a picture caption says performance issues but why wouldn't Atlas wait out a fix? Or was it replaced by another build? Frame was the OG Seahawks plane and now flying for Qatar Cargo. There was also another two not picked up. Were those performance issues as well?


The initial jets for Atlas had weight/performance issues. That caused Atlas to pass on them and take later builds.


So did Boeing fix the issues or did Qatar get the frames at a discount price for having issues?

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