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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:44 am

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Will do.

Our Aerostan 747-200Fs, find themselves in Kyrgyzstan and the old Portugese territory of Macau currently. The -200F of GEO is between Frankfurt and Tblisi. All of those destinations are a long way away from the warm waters of Curacao. ER-BAT and BAR are hit or miss on actual location.


Thanks CX747. Indeed they operate far away from the Caribbean but I remember seeing them flying to Costa Rica and Panama on an occasional charter. Curacao is known as a fuel stop destination for cargo airlines so I really they will consider Curacao as their fuel stop destination :)

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A little late in notification but Aerostan's 747-200F EX-47001 was in your neck of the woods recently. It passed through Trinidad & Tobago on its journey to and from Peru. It is now much further East, in Pakistan but food for thought. I assume 47001 or 47002 shall be in your area again and who knows where they let down to shuffle cargo and refuel.

What a great run of Pakistan-Egypt-Morocco-Cape Verdes-Trinidad & Tobago- Peru and then back in a very similar manner. Great way to spend a cold winter. Warm climates, tropical waters and Classic steam gauged 747s. Wonderful way to make a living.


Interesting news on 4L-GEN, our RB-211 thundering 747-200F making a trip to Iranian territory and back.....Geo Sky has been doing a good job with GEN as it's been pretty much operating a good schedule for over a year plus now.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:55 am

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Kentucky getting hit AGAIN with winter weather. Less than an inch of ice and then anywhere from 3-12 inches of snow. Should affect CVG, SDF, and LEX. Pulling out the snow shovel for this one.

Also. I was looking through pictures. Does anybody know why Atlas didn't pick up N770BA, MSN 37564, assumingly in 2013? I know a picture caption says performance issues but why wouldn't Atlas wait out a fix? Or was it replaced by another build? Frame was the OG Seahawks plane and now flying for Qatar Cargo. There was also another two not picked up. Were those performance issues as well?


The initial jets for Atlas had weight/performance issues. That caused Atlas to pass on them and take later builds.


So did Boeing fix the issues or did Qatar get the frames at a discount price for having issues?


The overall State of Qatar was in a bind during the time period where Qatar Airways nabbed (2) 747-8Fs. Their had been a blockade put in place around the country and QR's ability to move cargo into and out of the country was truly its lifeblood.

It was at that time Qatar picked up one of the earlier built Atlas 747s, along with a later built sister ship. I believe the early production NTU Atlas frame was almost immediately prepped, painted and put into service. As you know, both 747-8Fs continue to haul on behalf of the State to this day.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:37 am

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The initial jets for Atlas had weight/performance issues. That caused Atlas to pass on them and take later builds.


So did Boeing fix the issues or did Qatar get the frames at a discount price for having issues?


The overall State of Qatar was in a bind during the time period where Qatar Airways nabbed (2) 747-8Fs. Their had been a blockade put in place around the country and QR's ability to move cargo into and out of the country was truly its lifeblood.

It was at that time Qatar picked up one of the earlier built Atlas 747s, along with a later built sister ship. I believe the early production NTU Atlas frame was almost immediately prepped, painted and put into service. As you know, both 747-8Fs continue to haul on behalf of the State to this day.


Sounds like Qatar was desperate for something. Do you know what the payload restrictions between those frames and a later build frame is? I know Atlas' current -8s have an MTOW from anywhere between 983K to 989K last time I read the manual.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:09 am

Some history about both Qatari 747-8F frames :

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, (ordered and assembled to become Atlas Air #3, white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, operator airplane number 852, aircraft NTU (performance short fall, OEW overweight), re-registered N770BA at Jan 22-2013, selcal code DJ-KM, F/F April 15 2013, Used for (FAA)test flights (FMS software update verification flights?) from September 19 till/incl. November 21, Ferried to Boeing Field (KBFI) at November 22, Returned to KPAE at December 20. Emerged from the 45-05 paint hangar with a special “ Seattle Seahawks “livery at January 29 2014. The Seattle Seahawks logos were removed in May 2014. Ferried to Victorville (KVCV) at July 01 2014 for “engine work”. Returned to Paine Field at September 10 2014. Ferried to Marana (KMZJ) at November 12 2014 for long term storage. Ferried out of storage towards KPAE at February 07 2017. Rumours about a new customer : UPS , but a later produced airframe - L/N 1542, ABC NTU- was selected by UPS. July/August 2017 , New operator Qatar Cargo (Boeing operator identification code : QTR). New registration : A7-BGA, ferried to Victorville (KVCV) at September 24 2017. Ferried to Portland (KPDX) at October 03 for paint. Returned to Paine Field at November 02 2017. Delivery and delivery flight (QTR3378-OTHH)date December 13th 2017. First revenue flight December 18th (QTR8420, OTHH-VHHH

L/N 1535 - 747-8(3Q)F, RC651, serial number 63199, test registration N1785B, roll-out without engines at June 14 2016, second roll-out October 25 2016 after engine installation, F/F January 10 2017. Ferried to Victorville for paint at January 26 2017. Returned in white livery at Feb 17 2017. Was earmarked to be leased to Atlas Air with registration N860GT. July/August 2017 : New operator Qatar Cargo (Boeing operator identification code : QTR). Ferried to Portland for paint at August 15th. A7-BGB, Qatar Cargo full livery, returned at September 03. Delivery date September 22 2017 and delivery flight (QTR3378-OTBD) date : September 25 2017.

Note : L/N 1437 was built with the original operating weights (MTOW 975.000 lbs) and equipped with GEnx-2B engines. L/N 1535 was assembled with the higher operating weights (MTOW 987.000 lbs) and upgraded GEnx-2B/P engines. It's not know if L/N 1437 (airframe + engines) has been modified before delivery to Qatar Cargo.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:49 am

The same issues (relative high OEW, lower operating weights and non PIP GEnx-2B engines) are also valid for the other two early built 747-8F aircraft, rejected by Atlas Air, operated by Saudia 2013-2020, and presently for sale.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, (ordered and assembled to become Atlas Air #1, painted basic white-dark blue BA Colours to become G-GSSD, operator airplane number 850), aircraft NTU, F/F Jan 31, 2013, test registration N5023Q, ferried to Portland (KPDX) for re-painting at Feb. 5, return flight at Feb 21, full livery, new operator Saudi Arabian Cargo, HZ-AI3 , Delivery date March 23, 2013 , Delivery flight (SVA9018- OEJN) date : March 25, 2013, stored at RUH 1 Apr - 19 May 2017, stored at JED 19 May 2017 - 21 Feb 2018, stored at JED 6 Jan 2020


L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, (ordered and assembled to become Atlas Air #2, white livery, operator airplane number 851), aircraft NTU, registered N958BA at April 19 2013, F/F April 22 2013, new operator Saudia Arabian Cargo, full livery, HZ-AI4, Delivery date June 17 2013 and delivery flight (SVA9019-OEJN) June 28, 2013, stored at RUH 25 Mar 2017 - 29 Apr 2018, stored at JED 5 Jan 2020.

Both have been delivered in 2013 and are reaching their first HMV (after 8 years), so on top of the purchase price , an interested established 747-8F operator has to add the costs of a HMV, incl. structural modifications to be able to operate at the higher weights and a PIP modification for the engines. (for fleet standarization)
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:09 pm

Amerijet is wet-leasing Titan´s A321-200P2F to cover for maintenance of own units, but at the same time acting as "proof of concept".

Will be interesting to see how that pans out.

https://cargofacts.com/allposts/business/strategy/amerijet-hires-titan-airways-a321p2f/
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:11 pm

Another crazy weather day in Louisville for UPS with more forecast later this week. Dallas and Rockford affected as well.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:20 am

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Another crazy weather day in Louisville for UPS with more forecast later this week. Dallas and Rockford affected as well.


This won’t help either: Looks like UPS 747-400F N575UP operating SDF-WRI as 5X1540 slid off the taxiway at SDF earlier today (Feb 15).

https://twitter.com/jettipnet/status/13 ... 44387?s=21
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:12 am

Interesting routing of one of the 747-400 freighters we follow. National Airlines' N756CA ran NGO (Nagoya, where Toyota and Mitsubishi Motors have huge manufacturing facilities) to MEX on Sunday, stopping in ANC for only two hours (woo-hoo!). I figure that's very-likely auto parts, given the supply-chain challenges the automakers are facing right now, and the huge delays in ocean shipping through West Coast ports. Interesting, as far as it goes. And N702CA did an ICN-ANC-MEX on Friday, then headed to Orlando for some R&R.

BUT, the return is what caught my eye. Going back through ANC (with only a four-hour stopover), she's headed to CGK! Her flight number doesn't suggest a maintenance ferry, and she's too soon from SAT to need work, but we don't see these guys going to Jakarta all that often for a load. So I thought it was of note.

On the SkyLease side, 903AR has stepped off its Asia routes for the weekend, to do a significant group of Island runs, at Skylease speed. Left LAX early Saturday, and ran MIA-SJU-MIA-SAL-MIA-SDQ-MIA-SJU-STI-MIA-POS-MIA. We'll see what she does now. Meanwhile, N904AR stayed on its LAX-WUH-ANC-LAX runs (which it has been doing for some time now) through the weekend, and is winging its way to MIA from LAX early Tuesday morning. I guess the Island volume just needed the Big Birds to do some cleanup runs. The hometown folks might also want to have a look at 904AR's new paint job.

Meanwhile, the Western Global MD11 fleet seems well-employed, along with some scheduled maint. A lot of Asia, plus 4 on FedEx and a little military. The 747 utilization is weird now, though. N344KD has been in ORD for 16 days. That's a long time, even for WGN. Something must have broken on this gal that isn't easily fixed. N356KD has been in LGG since Friday, which seems odd. And Super-Primo Factory-F N258SN has been in RSW for about 6 days. I can see her needing a quick check, so not crazy. But odd that with everybody else blowing and going with their 744s, WGN is on the sidelines for now.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:11 am

MEM and IND will be a hot mess all week most likely. 1423 MEM-SEA this morning for instance....all of 5 containers on board.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:08 pm

The real Classic "Freight Dogs" :

Kalitta Charters II, 727-2M7(adv)F, N726CK, landing at San Bernadino (SBD) , February 14th 2021 with callsign Air Horse Two
See : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N72 ... /KMSY/KSBD

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Original uploaded by Inland K9 SAR at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/InlandK9SAR/status/ ... 7933805571
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:47 pm

ASL takes 10 more 737-800BCFs.

ASL Aviation Holdings DAC (ASL) has confirmed today that it is taking up 10 options for the 737-800 Boeing Converted Freighter. This follows the original agreement with Boeing (NYSE: BA) for 10 firm orders and 10 options, announced at the Paris Air Show in June 2019.

https://newsroom.aviator.aero/asl-confi ... -aircraft/

Edit: The PR talks about receiving the first last month, so it must not include acquisitions from other sources.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:09 pm

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N904AR stayed on its LAX-WUH-ANC-LAX runs (which it has been doing for some time now) through the weekend, and is winging its way to MIA from LAX early Tuesday morning. I guess the Island volume just needed the Big Birds to do some cleanup runs. The hometown folks might also want to have a look at 904AR's new paint job.


Indeed, N904AR looks very nice in her new paint job:

Image

I took that last Friday (February 12), interesting that she stayed at LAX for a good chunk of time (approx 11 hours), thought Sky Lease kept their pace up more :lol:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLSA2i5BPe9/
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n904ar
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:00 pm

CVG is a mess as well...…...more than half of our departures canceled due to weather...….
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:11 am

Pleased to report that another Rolls powered 747F classic, 4L-GEO is fresh out of maintenance at CGK where she spent the last month. Currently tracking north-west presumably back to TBS to join sister ship GEN and the Geo-Sky / TCA outfits.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:18 am

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Pleased to report that another Rolls powered 747F classic, 4L-GEO is fresh out of maintenance at CGK where she spent the last month. Currently tracking north-west presumably back to TBS to join sister ship GEN and the Geo-Sky / TCA outfits.

still question what reason to raise that oldschool whiskey burners
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:48 am

DLNZ wrote:
Pleased to report that another Rolls powered 747F classic, 4L-GEO is fresh out of maintenance at CGK where she spent the last month. Currently tracking north-west presumably back to TBS to join sister ship GEN and the Geo-Sky / TCA outfits.


Wondered how she was doing! Thanks for the report!
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:54 am

So ATSG/CAM's 767-300 N394AN is on her way back to the US from TLV. I didn't post this in the Amazon thread because word was some time back that she was destined to be dry-leased to Aloha Cargo. She has been at TLV for nearly 11 months (arrived 3/31/20), and the assumption was that Aloha wasn't ready for her, but there could have been other issues/reasons. The cargo door was installed months ago. She is still scheduled to head from CVG-ILN Wednesday afternoon, but that seems ambitious unless they're going to fly her nonstop to CVG now, without the customary stop in SNN. Perhaps because of all the Covid drama in that region, they're foregoing it, but more likely the arrival date at ILN will slip a day or so. Regardless, great to see her finally on the way to her second career!

Last time I looked, she was scheduled to be renumbered as N321CM before going into service.

On the Air Canada front, I haven't yet seen any Air Canada 767-300s moving to ILN or TPA for pre-conversion inspection/maintenance. As you all probably know, Air Canada is going to sell at least two (and likely many more) of the (few) 767-300s that it owns outright to CAM, who will then make the investment to heavy-check and convert them, and take responsibility for managing the conversion at IAI. CAM will then lease the aircraft back to Air Canada. This allows Air Canada to monetize an asset, and have the lessor bear the expense and risks of conversion (which CAM will then make back in the long term through the lease). CAM's cost of capital at the moment is low, and it has significant access to capital, so this arrangement makes sense for everyone.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:48 am

MEM is for all intents and purposes closed as of this morning. Looks like fewer than 10 domestic legs are going to be departing on the morning bank, all focus is on the international flights. Inbound is looking the same for the dayturn. Most flights have been cancelled outright.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:26 pm

So I was wrong about n394an. She's coming home to CVG non-stop from TLV. Should be at CVG around 4 p.m. local time.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:13 am

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So I was wrong about n394an. She's coming home to CVG non-stop from TLV. Should be at CVG around 4 p.m. local time.


And she flew on to ILN after a short time on the ground in CVG.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:08 am

Although I'm disappointed that one of the DC8-73CFs that we have been watching, N873SJ, hasn't been moving yet out of MIA, I am thrilled that our favorite one, OB-2059-P, is now getting even MORE business.

On the 16th, she did two full round-trips out of MIA: one to SDQ and back, and one to MGA and back. About 8 hours of lifting in one day.

Then, yesterday, the 17th, she did two round trips again: a morning run to and from SDQ again, and an afternoon run to PTY and back. This time, almost 9 hours in the air.

Not bad for the old gal. Glad to see her running reliably-enough to take on this work!

I also notice that our 744F friends, Sky Lease's N903AR and N904AR, have now both (temporarily?) pulled off of Asia, and are running hard serving the Caribbean, Central America, and northern South America. N904AR will have made two round-trips in 24 hours to SJU, and N903AR has been running hard the last several days serving SAL, SJU, SDQ, STI, POS, GEO, LIM and UIO. Multiple SJU and POS for her. I'm wondering what kind of bump in volume would keep the incumbent carriers (Amerijet, Northern, the contract carriers, etc.) from having enough lift to serve them sufficiently such that a 744 would be needed. Is this a heavy perishable season now? (Obviously, Valentines' Day required roses, but is there some other seasonal commodity that is moving?) And SDQ and other islands are close enough to MIA that a lot of manufactured goods can float to and from there pretty-quickly, which is a vastly-preferable option cost-wise. There is a lot of air being used from Asia due to supply chain interruptions caused by now-massive delays at the US West Coast ports, but I wasn't aware that the East Coast ports were in such a situation. The only other possibility I can think of is a further reduction in passenger flight volume to these locations, even further-restricting belly-cargo capability.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:44 am

Western Global, meanwhile, has 5 of its 10 operational MD11s at RSW or SHV now, so only 5 flying. One Asia, 3 FedEx, one military. Presumably, some of the visits to RSW will be quick, but I'm hoping for their sake that they'll be pushing Westward again shortly. I have put N546JN off the active list at this point; she has been at SHV too long, even for WGN. She joins N435KD and N804SN in the "parked at SHV" category. So, of 13 MD11s, 3 are parked long-term, 5 are working and 5 are in short-term maint.

For a while, it looked like the MD11 was getting some good Asia missions; let's hope that returns after the Chinese New Year. Thing is, a lot of factories didn't close this year, so that shouldn't be the only reason for this.

On the 747 side, not good. As previously noted, N258SN (factory F) is flying Asia, but N356KD has been in Liege for 4 days and N344KD has been at ORD for 2.5 weeks.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:33 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Although I'm disappointed that one of the DC8-73CFs that we have been watching, N873SJ, hasn't been moving yet out of MIA, I am thrilled that our favorite one, OB-2059-P, is now getting even MORE business.

On the 16th, she did two full round-trips out of MIA: one to SDQ and back, and one to MGA and back. About 8 hours of lifting in one day.

Then, yesterday, the 17th, she did two round trips again: a morning run to and from SDQ again, and an afternoon run to PTY and back. This time, almost 9 hours in the air.

Not bad for the old gal. Glad to see her running reliably-enough to take on this work!

I also notice that our 744F friends, Sky Lease's N903AR and N904AR, have now both (temporarily?) pulled off of Asia, and are running hard serving the Caribbean, Central America, and northern South America. N904AR will have made two round-trips in 24 hours to SJU, and N903AR has been running hard the last several days serving SAL, SJU, SDQ, STI, POS, GEO, LIM and UIO. Multiple SJU and POS for her. I'm wondering what kind of bump in volume would keep the incumbent carriers (Amerijet, Northern, the contract carriers, etc.) from having enough lift to serve them sufficiently such that a 744 would be needed. Is this a heavy perishable season now? (Obviously, Valentines' Day required roses, but is there some other seasonal commodity that is moving?) And SDQ and other islands are close enough to MIA that a lot of manufactured goods can float to and from there pretty-quickly, which is a vastly-preferable option cost-wise. There is a lot of air being used from Asia due to supply chain interruptions caused by now-massive delays at the US West Coast ports, but I wasn't aware that the East Coast ports were in such a situation. The only other possibility I can think of is a further reduction in passenger flight volume to these locations, even further-restricting belly-cargo capability.


Any thoughts on Skybus having moved their center of operations to MIA? Therefore, N873SJ, would sit idle there instead of in Peru.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:56 pm

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A little late in notification but Aerostan's 747-200F EX-47001 was in your neck of the woods recently. It passed through Trinidad & Tobago on its journey to and from Peru. It is now much further East, in Pakistan but food for thought. I assume 47001 or 47002 shall be in your area again and who knows where they let down to shuffle cargo and refuel.

What a great run of Pakistan-Egypt-Morocco-Cape Verdes-Trinidad & Tobago- Peru and then back in a very similar manner. Great way to spend a cold winter. Warm climates, tropical waters and Classic steam gauged 747s. Wonderful way to make a living.


Interesting news on 4L-GEN, our RB-211 thundering 747-200F making a trip to Iranian territory and back.....Geo Sky has been doing a good job with GEN as it's been pretty much operating a good schedule for over a year plus now.


Thanks CX747, please let me know if they only require a fuel stop in our region on those flights through the Caribbean. I'm guessing they also off load cargo in Trinidad(?) That RB-powered 742 would be very nice to see too, all of them are gems. You can send me a PM too if you want.

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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:57 pm

Atlas Air had a good quarter:

Atlas Air Worldwide (NASDAQ:AAWW):
Q4 Non-GAAP EPS of $4.83 beats by $1.32; GAAP EPS of $6.15 beats by $2.86.
Revenue of $932.48M (+24.8% Y/Y) beats by $54.06M.

https://www.atlasairworldwide.com/2021/ ... 0-results/
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:12 am

I noticed the other day that N873SJ actually has an OB registration covered up. It's just above the N number. Maybe someday she'll join her stable mate on the Peruvian registry.
Also of note, IFL has all three 727s in Miami currently.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:21 am

FlyMKG wrote:
I noticed the other day that N873SJ actually has an OB registration covered up. It's just above the N number. Maybe someday she'll join her stable mate on the Peruvian registry.
Also of note, IFL has all three 727s in Miami currently.


Interesting info! Thanks! Would be hard to give up such a great tail number, though. She's a dc8-73, so 873SJ is obviously intentional.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:07 am

wjcandee wrote:
Although I'm disappointed that one of the DC8-73CFs that we have been watching, N873SJ, hasn't been moving yet out of MIA, I am thrilled that our favorite one, OB-2059-P, is now getting even MORE business.

On the 16th, she did two full round-trips out of MIA: one to SDQ and back, and one to MGA and back. About 8 hours of lifting in one day.

Then, yesterday, the 17th, she did two round trips again: a morning run to and from SDQ again, and an afternoon run to PTY and back. This time, almost 9 hours in the air.

Not bad for the old gal. Glad to see her running reliably-enough to take on this work!

I also notice that our 744F friends, Sky Lease's N903AR and N904AR, have now both (temporarily?) pulled off of Asia, and are running hard serving the Caribbean, Central America, and northern South America.


I'm also amazed at the air lift in the Caribbean and Latin America currently. It's become a fascinating region for air freight. The extra sections Sky Bus are picking up is a real testament to their operational capability, and reliability with the DC8. Well done those folks. Like you I would love to see the sister-ship flying.

Earlier today I observed what may be another 742F Classic coming back to life. While one poster seems to question mentions of such fantastic feats, I'm sure many of us are enjoying it greatly having grown up around these fine old queens.

This time it's Transaviaexport's EW-460TQ, a 747-281F(SCD) built of course for NH, but flown in recent years for Saudia, Southern Air and then the Belarussian outfit. She seems to be resting in FJH, and has turned on the transponder a few times of late. Let's hope she is soon to re-appear from her slumber and fly the friendly skies.

And an udpate on our favourte Kyrgyz-742Fs, EX-47001 and sister ship '02.Ship 01 after hauling a load to LIM has repositioned to FRU, with '02 having launched on a familiar KHI-CAI-SID run, and appears to be grounded, or off the grid.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:32 am

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wjcandee wrote:
Although I'm disappointed that one of the DC8-73CFs that we have been watching, N873SJ, hasn't been moving yet out of MIA, I am thrilled that our favorite one, OB-2059-P, is now getting even MORE business.

On the 16th, she did two full round-trips out of MIA: one to SDQ and back, and one to MGA and back. About 8 hours of lifting in one day.

Then, yesterday, the 17th, she did two round trips again: a morning run to and from SDQ again, and an afternoon run to PTY and back. This time, almost 9 hours in the air.

Not bad for the old gal. Glad to see her running reliably-enough to take on this work!

I also notice that our 744F friends, Sky Lease's N903AR and N904AR, have now both (temporarily?) pulled off of Asia, and are running hard serving the Caribbean, Central America, and northern South America.


I'm also amazed at the air lift in the Caribbean and Latin America currently. It's become a fascinating region for air freight. The extra sections Sky Bus are picking up is a real testament to their operational capability, and reliability with the DC8. Well done those folks. Like you I would love to see the sister-ship flying.

Earlier today I observed what may be another 742F Classic coming back to life. While one poster seems to question mentions of such fantastic feats, I'm sure many of us are enjoying it greatly having grown up around these fine old queens.

This time it's Transaviaexport's EW-460TQ, a 747-281F(SCD) built of course for NH, but flown in recent years for Saudia, Southern Air and then the Belarussian outfit. She seems to be resting in FJH, and has turned on the transponder a few times of late. Let's hope she is soon to re-appear from her slumber and fly the friendly skies.

And an udpate on our favourte Kyrgyz-742Fs, EX-47001 and sister ship '02.Ship 01 after hauling a load to LIM has repositioned to FRU, with '02 having launched on a familiar KHI-CAI-SID run, and appears to be grounded, or off the grid.


The 747-200Fs all seem to be taking a break. 4L-GEN has been hanging out at TBS since 2/15. Both EX-47001 & 02 have also not flown in the past 3-4 days.

Still watching to see when ER-BAT, ER-BAR and 4L-GEO all crank back up.

Hopefully EW-460TQ can join the fun. Seems at minimum the transponder was on today (2/18/21). Some sources have her departing FJR but I'm not currently in that neck of the woods to confirm.

My little list of just those birds/operators sits at (7) 747-200Fs with (3) of them being in regular service and (1) almost done with a scheduled CGK MRO visit.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:02 am

DLNZ wrote:

This time it's Transaviaexport's EW-460TQ, a 747-281F(SCD) built of course for NH, but flown in recent years for Saudia, Southern Air and then the Belarussian outfit. She seems to be resting in FJH, and has turned on the transponder a few times of late.



*FJR not FJH of course.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:40 am

CX747 wrote:
The 747-200Fs all seem to be taking a break. 4L-GEN has been hanging out at TBS since 2/15. Both EX-47001 & 02 have also not flown in the past 3-4 days.

Still watching to see when ER-BAT, ER-BAR and 4L-GEO all crank back up.

Hopefully EW-460TQ can join the fun. Seems at minimum the transponder was on today (2/18/21). Some sources have her departing FJR but I'm not currently in that neck of the woods to confirm.

My little list of just those birds/operators sits at (7) 747-200Fs with (3) of them being in regular service and (1) almost done with a scheduled CGK MRO visit.


Not a freighter, but Rolls-Royce's 747-200 engine testbed also flew today.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:25 am

Looks like the weather at MEM and SDF is pretty-decent tonight, so hopefully some of that freight that everyone is waiting for will make it to its destination on Friday. I assume that vaccines get priority treatment; interesting that in NYC they're sounding the alarm about weather/shipping delays for vaccines this week. Maybe true, maybe partially-true. In any event, I'm always amazed how most of the time FedEx and UPS manage such a prompt recovery from IROPS.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:33 am

wjcandee wrote:
Looks like the weather at MEM and SDF is pretty-decent tonight, so hopefully some of that freight that everyone is waiting for will make it to its destination on Friday. I assume that vaccines get priority treatment; interesting that in NYC they're sounding the alarm about weather/shipping delays for vaccines this week. Maybe true, maybe partially-true. In any event, I'm always amazed how most of the time FedEx and UPS manage such a prompt recovery from IROPS.


Indeed, it does look like FX is much busier at MEM tonight than in recent days. As a small case study, FX1288 BHM-MEM is the nightly FX flight out of BHM (along with an ATR 72F that comes in from MEM and heads right back to MEM in the wee hours of dawn), but that hasn’t operated since last Friday evening. The 752 that arrived on Saturday morning is still on the ground at BHM. Of course, with such a short distance, there’s a good chance they’ve been trucking loads up to MEM and prioritizing ramp space/weather resources for the wide bodies, which indeed seems to be the case when looking at the arrival board tonight. Good to see ops slowly returning to normal though, definitely has an impact on the vaccine supply chain as well
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:09 am

gdavis003 wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
Looks like the weather at MEM and SDF is pretty-decent tonight, so hopefully some of that freight that everyone is waiting for will make it to its destination on Friday. I assume that vaccines get priority treatment; interesting that in NYC they're sounding the alarm about weather/shipping delays for vaccines this week. Maybe true, maybe partially-true. In any event, I'm always amazed how most of the time FedEx and UPS manage such a prompt recovery from IROPS.


Indeed, it does look like FX is much busier at MEM tonight than in recent days. As a small case study, FX1288 BHM-MEM is the nightly FX flight out of BHM (along with an ATR 72F that comes in from MEM and heads right back to MEM in the wee hours of dawn), but that hasn’t operated since last Friday evening. The 752 that arrived on Saturday morning is still on the ground at BHM. Of course, with such a short distance, there’s a good chance they’ve been trucking loads up to MEM and prioritizing ramp space/weather resources for the wide bodies, which indeed seems to be the case when looking at the arrival board tonight. Good to see ops slowly returning to normal though, definitely has an impact on the vaccine supply chain as well

East of Denver, ramps were told to truck the freight. West of that, they said no go. I have nearly 200 containers full of freight sitting on my ramp here that have been steadily piling up since Tuesday. MEM told us to only send them 5 containers today, very specifically. That's all they have space for. Things should start thawing out tomorrow when it's supposedly going to rise above freezing out there. This weekend and into next week should be very busy with the recovery. Expecting extra flight legs across the board.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:12 pm

Western Global 747-400F N356KD filed GSP-SBD 11AM - 12:44PM as KD9356 for maintenance.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N356KD
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:32 pm

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Western Global 747-400F N356KD filed GSP-SBD 11AM - 12:44PM as KD9356 for maintenance.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N356KD


That's interesting. Until now, WGN had been doing all heavy maintenance at its self-run MRO facility at SHV, with one ship operated on by Kalitta Maintenance (their former provider) over the summer when things were really-busy. We're sure this isn't just a ferry of some kind?

Unical (i.e the only possible MRO provider at SBD to work on a 744) did a light check for at least one of Sky Lease's 744s over the summer, before Sky Lease used HAECO Xiamen recently to D-check and repaint N904AR, so I know that Unical is up to doing an A and maybe a B on a 744. (I don't think they're licensed to do more than that.) But I have no idea why WGN wouldn't A-check a 744 in-house at their vaunted SHV shop, unless they finally realized that it needs some improvement.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:40 pm

wjcandee wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
Western Global 747-400F N356KD filed GSP-SBD 11AM - 12:44PM as KD9356 for maintenance.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N356KD


That's interesting. Until now, WGN had been doing all heavy maintenance at its self-run MRO facility at SHV, with one ship operated on by Kalitta Maintenance (their former provider) over the summer when things were really-busy. We're sure this isn't just a ferry of some kind?

Unical (i.e the only possible MRO provider at SBD to work on a 744) did a light check for at least one of Sky Lease's 744s over the summer, before Sky Lease used HAECO Xiamen recently to do D-check and repaint N904AR, so I know that Unical is up to doing an A and maybe a B on a 744. But I have no idea why WGN wouldn't A-check a 744 in-house at their vaunted SHV shop, unless they finally realized that it needs some improvement.


Perhaps SHV is just up to their eyeballs, as they've got what, 8 MD-11 and 2 747 paperweights on their hands by your last count (including long term SHV residents).
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:56 pm

Spacepope, you're probably-right. But right now, they have only one "operating" aircraft at SHV, which is 542KD. The other three, as you point out, are paperweights, long-term residents (546JN, 435KD and 804SN).

Interestingly, they moved 412SN from SHV to RSW last Saturday, as if it had to be worked on there instead. Maybe there are bigger issues at SHV than we know about.

And it's true that RSW, which does a lot of light maintenance, currently has 411SN, 412SN, 512JN, and 543JN sitting there. 513SN escaped late last night and flew to ANC, where it sits. So until today, basically, there were 5 there.

As a present summary, they have 4 MD11s at RSW, 1 at SHV, 3 on FedEx, 1 heading to Asia, and 1 on military. So five kinda-working*** and 5 in maint. And 3 long-timers. On the 744s, they now have very-little. 344KD at ORD for 18 days. 356KD doing whatever it's doing. And 258SN sitting at ANC on the way back from Shanghai since Wednesday afternoon. I actually wondered whether 513SN was going up there to take the cargo the rest of the way.

***(I say "kinda working" because 545JN, which is on military, hasn't moved in 2 days, which isn't uncommon on military, and 415JN, which is kind of a spare for the FedEx contract, hasn't moved in 3.)
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:44 pm

That's . . . interesting. Our friends over at skyliner have 394AN headed to Northern Air Cargo as 321CM and not Aloha. Not sure where they're getting that it is going to NAC, but if true, that's an interesting development. They've been wrong before though and like to jump to conclusions.

Another PEMCO converted 733 left TPA today as well. This one is N569TM, which is 23 years old and flew for Air France, Ukraine International Airways, Alas Uruguay, and Latin American Wings. Planespotters has it headed to Star Air Cargo in South Africa, but it just stopped at MCC and is about to head over the Pacific to HNL, which seems to suggest that that is not the case.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:38 pm

Aloha Cargo is operated by Northern Air Cargo. Like the StratAir 767 and the NAC 767, the current Aloha 767, N399CM, is leased by NAC, as will be this one. Right now, it's being flown by ATI under contract until Aloha/NAC gets its etops. That's the reason for the confusion.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:54 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Aloha Cargo is operated by Northern Air Cargo. Like the StratAir 767 and the NAC 767, the current Aloha 767, N399CM, is leased by NAC, as will be this one. Right now, it's being flown by ATI under contract until Aloha/NAC gets its etops. That's the reason for the confusion.


That makes much more sense, thanks. The way that skyliner phrased it made it seem like this one was going to get NAC colors, like N379CX, and operate directly for their own purposes. Glad to hear that it will still be going to Aloha.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:21 pm

Former Jade Cargo bird B744ERF, OO-ACF belonging to Challenge Airlines has now received her beauty makeup as she returned back to her stomping ground LGG earlier today.

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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:35 pm

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Former Jade Cargo bird B744ERF, OO-ACF belonging to Challenge Airlines has now received her beauty makeup as she returned back to her stomping ground LGG earlier today.


Pretty-good turnaround by IAC in SNN: 11 days.

Every time I see "Challenge Accepted", I think of Barney in "How I Met Your Mother". Can't break it. Pretty-sure the guys at that company didn't make that connection.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:29 am

Will two sitting Saudia;748 freighters fly again for Saudia? Where is their likely end fleet?
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:32 am

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[Regarding Western Global's 747s:] And 258SN is sitting at ANC on the way back from Shanghai since Wednesday afternoon. I actually wondered whether [MD11] N513SN was going up there [from RSW] to take the cargo the rest of the way.


Turns out that's exactly what it was doing. Flew RSW-ANC, loaded, and flew to ORD. Shipper must be thrilled. Only about a 36-hour delay.
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:03 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG1fHBXzLuA

Neat video (and check the description for a fantastic surprise!). Hope to see this one back in service soon, sounds like they're going to give it a shot
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:35 am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG1fHBXzLuA

Neat video (and check the description for a fantastic surprise!). Hope to see this one back in service soon, sounds like they're going to give it a shot

People have been talking about reviving that one for years. I’ll believe it when I see it fly.
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:14 am

wjcandee wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
[Regarding Western Global's 747s:] And 258SN is sitting at ANC on the way back from Shanghai since Wednesday afternoon. I actually wondered whether [MD11] N513SN was going up there [from RSW] to take the cargo the rest of the way.

Turns out that's exactly what it was doing. Flew RSW-ANC, loaded, and flew to ORD. Shipper must be thrilled. Only about a 36-hour delay.


And N513SN is heading back to ANC from ORD. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N513SN To pick up the rest of the cargo off N258SN?
 
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Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:19 am

gdavis003 wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
Aloha Cargo is operated by Northern Air Cargo. Like the StratAir 767 and the NAC 767, the current Aloha 767, N399CM, is leased by NAC, as will be this one. Right now, it's being flown by ATI under contract until Aloha/NAC gets its etops. That's the reason for the confusion.

That makes much more sense, thanks. The way that skyliner phrased it made it seem like this one was going to get NAC colors, like N379CX, and operate directly for their own purposes. Glad to hear that it will still be going to Aloha.


Well, of course, what ends up happening may be different from what I expect is going to happen... But plainly Aloha has a run that they would like to have a 763 on (HNL-SEA-LAX-HNL) and on which they are now running one wet-leased 757-200 HNL-SEA-LAX-HNL, and another 757-200 HNL-LAX-HNL, on top of their existing ATI-operated, dry-leased 763. So it appears that the business is there for Aloha Cargo, and their pilots aren't likely to permit anybody but NAC/Aloha pilots to be flying those routes once/if they get ETOPS.

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